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thousands who travel alone. those are the word of pope francis miss ape mid action like like the first deportation plane arriving in honduras. there's more reaction at home as another protest flares. the in the nation's capitol a mid summer melee will be keeping an eye and ear on several events including speaker boehner who may have something on immigration or the lawsuit against the president. frame the debate over women's reproductive right naps important conversation playing out this hour. it's 10:00 a.m. in the east. 7:00 in the west. it's tuesday, the 15th of july. good morning. i'm jose diaz-balart. the trip thousands of kids are making along to the united states. yet another community is planning protests as a bus load of immigrant women and children heads to arizona for processing.
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the local sheriff got word of some of the kids being transported to his town and gave residents a heads up as it was happening. a lead a local man to organize a protest asking the immigrants be sent back. they say the federal government is keeping them in the dark about the children. paul baseball bow said in a statement said we already have our hands full fighting the drug cartels and human smugglers. we don't need unaccompanied juveniles from central america being flown into arizona compliments of president obama. it echoes protests earlier this morning in california where people blocked buses of immigrant families and eventually they were forced to turn around. there are immigrants the u.s. has turned around. the deportation came yesterday. a plane carrying single mothers arrived in honduras. greeted by the first lady. it's not clear what happens next after the processing center.
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the white house said there will be more deportations aiming to send a message. >> we're sending the message that most unaccompanied kid who come to this country will not qualify for any form of humanitarian relief under our laws. therefore, must be taken to their home country. >> two texas lawmakers think they have a solution to fix the problem. john cornyn appeared alongside hen we. >> we want to make sure they're treated the same way as kids coming over from mexico and canada. >> many of the kids living here come through mexico riding a train called the train of death or the beast. many die riding on top the train are or attacked by robbers. the mexican government announcing yesterday it's going to finally crack down on these train rides.
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joining me now just back from her trip to central america is stefanie. on the ground in mexico city is kristina. thank you, both. stefanie you've been traveling through honduras, guatemala, and el salvador. what do you see happening to these kids? >> one of the things we noticed almost immediately on the ground in honduras, which is one of the most violent cities in one of the most violent countries in the world is the near universal desire among young people to leave their homes and make this trek to the u.s. that took us all off guard. we looked closely, too, at why they want to make the trek. and the reasons behind it. it's more complicated than a lot of people make it appear. there are a multitude of reasons. the violence, for sure, the economy with is definitely part of it. and the fact that a lot of these kids know people or have family members that have left, made the trip to the u.s., and have been allowed to stay.
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>> and ste, stefanie, you showe a clear fashion there's a whole infrastructure of crime created to handle this transportation. >> there really is. you gate sense when you're down there the shared responsibility that the countries in central america have for this problem as well. we watched what was essentially an acceptance of the situation by these governments to a certain degree to allow the trafficking to occur. we were in graduate maul wiuate border with mexico. we were in a town where the deals with coyotes are happening in the open in the streets. there is a graduatuatemala outp watching it going on. >> when they cross the border into mexico. you're in the capital of mexico there when they cross into mexico, many of them join what is called the horrible train
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that is there to transport material, but it's a way of transportation and extremely dangerous passage. >> yeah, jose. good morning. it's called the train of death. it's not really just one train. it's a network of mexican freight trains that my grants have been using for use to cross the united states and head to the border with the united states. you know, just the fact it's called the death train tells you the dangers themy grants face. robbery, rape, murder, and many accidents. many lose their limbs, arms, legs when they fall off the train. a few days ago i visited one of the stops of the train, interviewed a honduran immigrant who told me he had seen children falling off the train. 8, 9, 10-year-old. he was confused, tired after traveling for over a month and i tried to get more information from him, but he just -- the
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train started running again and he had to go. >> you have seen the journey as well, stefanie. why do you think kids, these are young kids, are willing to do this. they know it's risky and everyone on the street heard the stories of the coyotes that take advantage of the kids or the beast train. and all of them we spoke to said it's worth the risk. there's a confidence that what they are leaving is worse than what they're going to experience on the road. that's up for debate. but that's certainly the perception on the street. people come back from the journey, even harrowing journeys we've heard describe and turn around and head right back on another one. >> and finally, the mexican government said they're going start cutting back on letting people get on that train, the death train. is the mexican government doing anything really to help the issue? >> well, jose, not yet.
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the secretary of interior said an interview he's going to start cutting back and be announcing some policies to stop the my grants from boarding the trains. we don't know what it is. we've heard reaction from my grants saying they're going to walk along and go to other areas that are less populated, pay rides and try get on the train. it's not going to stop them. one of the quotes that a migrant told me they would die for hope or murdered or dying of hunger at home. that puts into perspective why this is going to be so hard to stop. as stefanie was saying, most of themy grants know that it just depends on how much money they're carrying and how many officials and police officers they can pay off to get on the train. >> boy, corruption, that's a big word we're examing in the future. a lot more. thank you for both of your
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perspectives. from the border to new york city where in 2015 residents will be able to get municipal id cards regardless of the immigration status. an estimated 500,000 undocumented immigrants. it will provide proof of identification to make it easier to access city libraries and schools and rent apartments. mayor bill debl blasio are hopi banks will accept it. joining me now is mayor de blasio's commissioner of immigrant affairs. >> thank you for having me. >> what do you think urged the mayor to do this now? >> well, you know, this has been a priority for mayor de blasio since the state of the city addressed when he announced the id card. i think we are seeing some of the gaps at the federal level in terms of being able to take action on immigration and other issues. our goal in new york is to
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provide an environment where individuals can feel they can access all the benefits of the city regardless of whether they have id or not. this id will bridge a gap. >> unwith the key things is being able to have faith you can call officials. you can call the police if something bad is happening to you or a neighbor and not worry about that call leading to your deportation. >> absolutely. and, you know, one of the things in developing the new york city municipal id card we've been working actively with nypd will accept and the interactions with the community i think it's a win for the holders of the id card. >> the other folks on the other side will tell you it's creating another magnet for the undocumented to come from different parts of the united states to new york or from other countries. they'll see it and say, boy, i can get to new york city. i can make it anywhere. i can make it there >>well, that is true. if you can make it in new york city you can make it anywhere. i think the important thing here
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is it's an id card for all new yorkers. it's not necessarily just for immigrants. but also, in new york city our position is that immigrants actually add to the economic vitality and the cultural vitality. >> commissioner new york city's office of immigrant affairs. israel prepared to hold the fire. what about hamas. we'll talk to senator bob menendez and the best way to confront the immigration crisis. avo: waves don't care what age you are.
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a deadly russian subway crash, iran nuclear talks, and ceasefire that failed. one of the worst subway
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accidents in moscow's history. a train came off the tracks. 19 dead and more than 150 others hurt. officials believe a power surge caused the train to derail. the united nations is pulling the staff out of libya today amid growing violence there. destroying 90% of the planes parked on the ground. 15 people have been killed. crashes in tripoli and benghazi since sunday. john kerry said there's some real gaps. his words between the world powers and iran in terms of a nuclear deal. kerry cited some progress but said he'll return to washington today. he's in the air now and will brief president obama and congress to discuss whether to allow talks to continue past sunday's deadline. secretary kerry won't go to the middle east to broker a ceasefire between israel and hamas.
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israel agreed to the ceasefire introduced by egypt. but hamas objected. kerry had strong words for hamas. >> i cannot condemn strongly enough the actions of hamas and so brazenly firing rockets in multiple numbers in the face of a good will effort to offer a ceasefire in which egypt and israel join together and the international community strongly supports. >> i want to bring in the chairman of the senate foreign relations committee senator bob men menendez. thank you for being with us. >> congratulations on on your new show. >> thank you. the ceasefire fell apart. is it time for the u.s. to step in and broker a new deal? >> well, look this is a deal that was brokered through egypt, accepted by the israelis, supposedly accept bid hamas and hamas broke it early this
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morning, which is the underlying problem here. we have a terrorist organization committed to the destruction of israel and willing to fire hundreds of rockets into israel and civilian populations, and that's the challenge that israel has. that's the challenge of the moment. we love to have a ceasefire. but it has to be one in which israeli citizens are protected >>well, the white house defended israel's air strikes, as you know, and the right to defend itself. israel called up 40,000 reservist. is the next step a ground invasion into gaza? >> look, i think the israelis would really not want to have a ground invasion, but, you know, jose, i would say if we in the united states at any point of our country faced hundreds of rockets coming into where we live, what would we want our government to do? we would want our government to find a way to defend us. and to stop the attacks.
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and so while this has been largely an aerial assault. if you have a continuous, you know, reigning of rockets going further and further, i understand that the israelis just shot down a drone. god only knows what the drone had on it. the consequences are pretty enormous. i think the israelis would rather not have a ground assault. they may make a determination for the national security. >> the difficulty in gaza the people that are lobbying these rockets are doing so from civilian areas. and so a lot of times the people that don't lob the rockets are getting the short end of the deal >>well, it's one of the hoshlt reality. it speaks volumes about hamas who hide behind women and children and mosques and in civilian places to do their dirty work. instead of directly attacking in a way in which they, in fact, could be seen for who they are. but i think that the world needs
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to understand that this is exactly what hamas does. so the challenge for the israelis is do we accept the raining of rockets and totally withhold because hamas hides behind women and children and in religious places or do we ultimately try to be as precision as we can to try to want to attacks understanding that it's a tough -- it's almost like trying to thread a needle in the haystack. >> republicans are blacking the president on the foreign policy. for example, all the conflict we've seen or the fault partially they say of the senator. here is john mccain on cnn sunday. >> i believe the things we're seeing in the world today in greater turmoil than any time in my lifetime is a destruct result of absence of american leadership. we are paying a heavy price now. we will in the future. >> are the president's policies to blame, senator? >> no, look.
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the palestinian-israeli conflicted existed for a long time. sun sunni shia divides listed for a long time. those who are terrorists are frost terrorists and wish to destroy our way of life. they believe that dying is more glorifying than living. those all tough things to fight. i don't believe any of that has to do with the president of the united states and his policy pls. >> i want to turn to the border crisis. you've been active. you were part of the gang of eight over a year ago passed a bipartisan bill in the senate to deal with immigration reform. now we see senator john cornyn and henry quay area introducing a humane act. it would change the 2008 law signed by president bush that treats all unaccompanied children crossing the border the same. that's the changes they want. kids coming here would go before a judge within seven days of being screened by the department of health and human services, it
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authorizes up to 40 new judges to do that. do you support the bill? >> no. look, clearly we have a crisis. it's a crisis of citizens security and central america. it's something i've been talking about for several years that cut into latin america central america at the time in which central american countries weak in nature, generally poor. honduras the murder capital. the other two the fifth largest in terms of homicide in their country, drug trafficking, gangs, and human smugglers. you have parents that ultimately say to themselves i take my 8-year-old and send them on a 2,000 mile journey. if they stay they'll most certainly die. at least they have a -- this is a refugee crisis.
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they're trying to undermine an existing law that was passed during president bush and signed by him that i think would not allow a child who has the ability who will have the ability to show in time that in fact he is fleeing because of a credible fear of possibly loss of their life. >> and senator menendez, what about the people that say i feel bad for the kids and what is going in the countries is tragedy but it shouldn't be my problem or issue to deal with in the united states. we have our own issues with tough economic, you know, times. why do we have to deal with this issue? >> well, look, we tell the jor dane beg jordanians they have to deal with the refugee crisis and africa they have to deal with the refugee crisises. we tell others in the hemisphere they have to deal with the flow into the dominican republic. when we have a refugee crisis it's important to establish a
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standard but not live with the responsibility here. i don't believe in that. not every child will be able to make the case. you cannot make your case in 72 hours. how do you produce the proof your father was murdered in front of your eyes or that the gang said to you either join us or die? you need time to make that case. you need to get witnesses, aifrds and whatnot. it's about going ahead ensending children who are in fire of their lives back to the very same tragedy they left from and at the end of the day, if we don't do something about the central american countries all we'll have is a reinvolreinvolv door. we're looking at maybe $300 million in five countries to with the causes. that's simply that equation doesn't work in terms of solving the problem if our own interests. >> senator robert menendez,
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states. you responded to my request to interact with the show and participate in the discussion. thank you. i would like to respond to some of your comments including your questions and criticism. let me start with the tweet from our twitter account @jdb. please ensure she's protected. do your part for her. we will continue to follow maria's story as i mentioned from the question on the outset of the program yesterday. the show is about people. all people. those impacted by the policies and issues you and i discuss every day. what we're doing is shining a light on the voices that need to be heard. all sides of the issue. it's up to our country to deal with this. the reason for the show is to increase the number of voices being heard. let's all speak up. let's let elect eed representatives know what we think and expect. we ran into mixed feelings many are having about the crisis. take the comment and question from a viewer on msnbc's
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facebook. i feel bad for the kids but this country is not helping its own people. how can we help them? that's a great question. this is something we have to confront head on. we can't simply wish the problem away. it's not going anywhere. any time soon. as the most prosperous nation on earth. the place many see as a beacon of democracy of passion and good. we have to be ready to deal with the issues. while at the same time never forgetting the children born in difficult circumstances here in this country. finally, there was a good share of criticism of the interview. like this on msnbc.com. a foreigner legally resigning in the u.s. i find it appalling these people break the law and expect to be given a handout. america should send a clear message and send the kids back to central or south america. they're not refugees like warring nations like somalia. they want to be able to afford an iphone and better lifestyle. united nations defined the people crossing into the u.s. as subject to persecution.
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they have among the highest murder rates in the world. as we heard from maria yesterday she fears her life. the issue of legal residents on the undocumented. it's logical for a person like maria -- is it logical for a person like maria to know if she wanted to legally request entry the probably answer would be no. she has to wait 99 years in line. all sides agree the immigration system is broken. as far as the iphone comment. you really think that -- you think a 17-year-old who sees her brother murdered in front of her was horribly sexually brutalized thinking about an iphone? do you really think that? right now on capitol hill -- changing the subject. senators are holding a hearing on women's health where women are testifying. democrats are pushing the bill to protect access to abortion but in the last three years states passed 226 laws to restrict it. we'll talk about the issues after the break.
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right now on capitol hill the senate judiciary committee is holding a hearing on the women's health protection act. it would reverse on restrictions on abortion put in place in many red states that shut down clinics entirely. it's prompted one aipt abortion group to call it, quote, the most radical proabortion bill ever considered by congress. >> in just the past three years, states across this country have enacted a total of 205 provisions that restrict women's access to safe abortion services. >> to be clear and transparent, i'm unapologetically pro-life. i believe the life of a unborn must be protected, i believe we must do everything in our power to protect any woman who decides to have an abortion even though i may disagree with their choice. >> this hearing follows last month supreme court ruling in favor of hobby lobby saying some
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companies can cite religious and opt-out of new health care law requirements they cover most contraceptives for women. they are pushing legislation that reverse the ruling as welt. both sides see women as a key voting block for the november med terms and the issue could bring them to the polls. let's frame the debate and hear from both sides of the contentious issues. i'm join by ohio state senator knee th nina turner. you made headlines when was introduced the viagra pill. requiring men to get psychological counciling before getting a prescription. give us the landscape when it comes to women's reproductive health. >> it was about whether or not women's health care decisions will be second guessed by their employers. no one would think in this country after the fight that we've had generationally in
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terms of being able to control their own health care decisions they would be confronted with this in the 21 st century. the question is whether or not women as individuals and employees have the right to control their own destiny. to control their own bodies to pursue life, liberty, and happiness or whether or not a corporation gets to make that decision. i think it is dangerous. it's a dangerous path we're going to down in this dcountry now. >> let me ask you about the debate going on in capitol hill on the senate judiciary committee. does it have any shot of becoming law? >> certainly the senate, and i think senators murray and udall, for pushing this basically saying that no one should have the ability to deter or stop a woman from having that kind of access. in the senate, it probably will but not so sure in the house. jose, this is about the fundamental pursuit of life, liberty, happiness for our mothers, sisters, daughters.
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they rights, too. they have religious liberties, too. that's being missed in the whole case. you may recall that justice ginsburg talked about it and alluded to in her dissent that the hobby lobby decision is going down a dangerous path that will open the doors to more discrimination in many forms. >> ohio state senator turner, thank you for being with us. >> thank you, jose. to help us frame the debate from the other side. i'm joined by kristin hawkins. students for life president. let's get your reaction to the bill. >> look, the bill is just the freedom of choice act 2.0. it was interesting. this bill is supposed to -- it's going to eliminate and destroy every regulation against abortion since roe v. wade in 1973. that's hundreds of laws passed by states across the country that have been set up to protect
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women from those situations. the senator from cleveland was talking about protecting women. there was a young woman, miss wilson, who was killed in cleveland this march from her abortion complications. these are why we have the common sense laws. for the senate to talk about destroying the common sense laws which a majority of americans agree with, it's unthinkable. it doesn't have a shot of going anywhere. senator reid needs to do his job and allow a vote on the unborn child protect action. a majority of americans agree with. banning abortions on children can be born and survive and when children feel pain during the abortion. >> kristin, let me ask you about the hobby lobby issue. the state senator was saying it was an issue about the freedom to choose. and the senate, as you know, wants to push back on that. >> this law is not about the freedom to choose. this law is about getting the
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senate democrats to shore up their extremist base on an 9% of americans, the 9% who believe that abortion should be taxpayer funded and it should be available in all nine months of pregnancy for whatever reason >> kristin hawkins, thank you for being with us. coming up it's hot then dry. we know parts of california are literally burning. the state already spent millions battling the fires and a major drought will not help. could fining people in the golden state for using too much water and wake them up to a serious situation on the west coast? cars that talk to each other. president obama will visit a federal highway research center where he hopes to see technological advances in cars that cannot only talk to each other but america's roads. engineers are testing vehicle to vehicle technology that the president said could prevent crashes, cut down on traffic,
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and save gas. the president is making a push for congress to boost funds for infrastructure. in venezuela, one of the remaining national newspapers that have been critical of the government is sold. it's the third media outlet to change hands since the death of hugo chavez. they added to fear that news coverage in venezuela will remain one sided. and the oakland cespedes captured the home run derby crown in a row. cespedes' mom pitched for cuban softball games in the olympics games. a rain bow last night in minnesota, which also hosts the all-star game tonight.
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the founder of define america and one of the maybe best known undocument the immigrants in the united states detained. i've got a photograph to show you posted by the huffington post as he was getting through mccallum, texas airport. you find tsa officials side by side with border patrol folks. he had come in on land and was leaving, sibas i understand, vi the airport. we'll have more coming in the coming days. that's being reported right now. let's talk about something else. the calendar may say mid july, but the midwest is suffering what they're calling a polar invasion. se sending temperatures plummeting. at the home run derby for the mid summer classic fans in minneapolis had to break out rain gear, bundle up. nbc meteorologist bill karins is more. bill, how are you? >> first of all, welcome.
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i'm happy for your new show! thank you very much! >> thank you, bill. >> the whole thing invasion and vortex. it's almost like we have a bunch of weather geeks in the room trying to create the scary terms. the cool air is coming. it's not an official weather term. polar vortex is. i know, you heard it last week. unfortunately a lot of people in my profession started arguing about what it was and wasn't. it lead to a lot of confusion that the polar vortex was returning. it's cool but it's not the polar vortex which is located where the jets fly toward the north pole. it sent cold air. that's what we're dealing with. you can see the location is where the polar bears are. as far as we are concerned, it's a chunk, a little piece broke off and only moving down to about st. louis. not heading anywhere near the southeast or anywhere like that. >> by the way, bill, totally
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geeky. i'm sorry to tell you. there's a long explanation about the geek. it's total geek talk. let's talk about how long it's happening and how hot is it? >> it's interesting, it's very rare. it typically, by the way, for everyone across the country. it's the warmest week usually on average throughout the entire summer. so that kind of makes you go, wow, that's interesting it was 46 degrees in north dakota and south dakota this morning. we did break some records. it hasn't happened all that often on this day before. but we didn't shatter records across the midwest. something like this happened before. the biggest thing it was an extreme jet stream pattern. as the planet has been warming it's been less frequent. that's what kind of gets the headlines on this. we don't expect to see stuff like this as much anymore with the warming plan. we did see it this morning. >> love you bill karins. thank you for being us with. from a cold snap to a dry
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heat. in california it could force emergency actions. they are vote on a plan to fine residents up to $500 for overusing waters. watering lawns to the point where they run into the streets and washing cars without a shutoff nozzle. reese is conservation. >> good morning. i'm great! >> good morning. it's not just california, i mean, lake mead, california department of water resources said this year rainfall in los angeles is a little under 4 1/2 inches. it's 35% of the average. san francisco a little more than 12.5 inches. it's 53% of the average. how is it impact places like california? >> welcome to warming world. warming world, for the man on the street means climate
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disruption. for the man and woman on the street, what we're concerned of and what we've got both eyes on the map here is our national food security. california, you see, provides y'all with 50% of your lawsufrud vegetables. and all of your, by the way, almonds, apricots, olives, br k broccoli, carrots with, and on and on. water is the rage here. we've got drilling rings running 24/7 red hot that make 1977 when california drilled and found 28,000 new water wells, we're way ahead of that. in fact, people are paying $10,000 just to cut in the cue just to wait to get their wells. water is $2200 an acre foot.
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that's one football field, jose, one foot deep of water. on the fifth of july, we had an amazing event here. farmers in the central valley bought 3200 acre feet. $7 million of water and they outbid the city of santa barbara. >> you know it is a crisis. and it's scary. it doesn't seem to get any better. >> no. and let me remind the viewers, drought gets wild fires. since the first of january, we've had 3,000 fires in california. $209 million. last week we blew $14 million and we've asked president obama for $615 million emergency funding and it gets worse! since 2000, every three consecutive dry winters spell
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megafires. 2003, 2007, and 2014 was our third consecutive dry winter. we're in for something here. and this -- it's frightening and this is national security. >> you're right. you're absolutely right. thank you for being with us. we proficient your perspective. >> thank you. coming up. there's blood in the water. but we're not going take the bait. after the break, five things you need to know about sharks. spokesperson: you can get a $1,000 turbocharged reward card with a new volkswagen turbo. so why are we so obsessed with turbo? because there's nothing more exhilarating than a powerful ride. and you can get that in places you might not expect. like the passat. and also in the fun-to-drive jetta. in fact, volkswagen has sold more turbos than any other brand over the last ten years. that is a lot of turbo. vo: hurry in and you can
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i wanted to help them out. given my own experience. i'll tell you in ability will. the fact we're coming from florida magnet of sharks. florida's america shark capital of the over 1100 shark attacks recorded in the u.s. over 1960. over 660 have taken place in the sunshine state. number two, because i do want to discourage you from coming to miami -- wouldn't want you to stay away. swimmers, the odds are in your favor. look at the numbers. almost 75 times more likely to get killed by a lightning strike than a shark. of course, hollywood would have you think otherwise. >> i'll catch it for you. it ain't going to be easy. it's a bad fish. not like chasing blue gills. this shark will swallow you whole.
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down you go. and number three, this summer marx the 39th anniversary of the movie "jaws" and the second anniversary of the 2013 viral hit "sharknado." number four, this is true, "jaw's" brothers and sisters are on the rise. two new studies show the great white population in both coasts are on the rise after the populations dropped in the past two decades. you may not think so. that's a good thing. sharks with will be he said, are the lines of the ocean. if you lose them the ocean fall out of balance. number five, you might have seen peter alexander swimming with the sharks. she's a brave man!
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good morning, everyone. i'm tamron hall. this is "newsnation." we're following two major developments in the crisis at the border. another heated showdown could be in the making in arizona right now. activists are lining up to confront buses of undocumented children being transported to a secluded camp near tucson. federal officials are moving about 40 to 60 kids for temporary housing at the facility which typically houses at risk young people. there could be a scene similar to what we watched play out in california earlier this month in mar california. forcing the buses to turn around. this was the scene yesterday when a plane carryi ining dozen
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women and children arrived in honduras of the first of what is to be a series of expedited. 40 people were flown from new mexico where they were being held. let me bring in a attorney and politico chief political correspondent. thank you for joining. we're expecting to get a live shot from a reporter at the campsite in arizona. but here we are again. the escalation of tension, worry. most of it because congress and some say this administration have not handled it properly. >> right. part of the reason we're seeing the public outcry and the ugly images in populations like california and possibly arizona. the administration has yet to put forward a coherent immigration policy. i think there is now some movement with this new bill being introduced to expedite the removal of children, we'll see a lot of push back from liberals, progressives, and certainly latino advocacy groups. it's never a good idea to rush due process. to do a drive

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