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introducing at&t mobile share value plans... ...with our best-ever pricing for business. about six hours. how long for a proposed truce to break down completely. john kerry says he'll hop on a plane. that's how you know things are serious. >> israel retaliating after hamas reject add proposed truce. >> they were giving the ceasefire time to take hold hoping the barrage would fade out. it increased. >> i cannot condemn strongly enough the actions of hamas. the first wave of immigrants have been returning to honduras. >> deported with 17 women. >> i do have empathy for the kids but i also don't want to send a signal that send your
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kids to america illegally. they've been mocking the gop for the use of the lawsuit. >> they should go talk to judge judy. i think she would throw the case out in half a second. blade runner pistorius into a bar fire in south africa. >> he's out on bail? he can do anything he wants as long as it's legal. oh, probably not a big deal but they also ruled that corporations have religious beliefs. i mean, it makes sense. hobby lobby, christian. panda express is jewish at christmas time. papa johns, of course, atheist because the pizza makes you doubt there is a god. ceasefire? what ceasefire? breaking that the moment, a delegate ceasefire collapsed after hours. meanwhile, aggressions are continuing. the palestinian death toll is rising. approaching 200 now and just this minute netanyahu is about to speak announcing the very
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first civilian casualty on the israeli side. apparently by mortar shell involved that conflict. we'll keep you updated on details. this is from the first air strikes to resume after the collapse of that ceasefire. israel defense forces announced that the government was suspending the strikes but four hours later, hamas continued the rocketing and israel announced still more attacks. secretary of state john kerry on the way back to washington from vier that said -- well, take a listen. >> i am prepared to fly back to the region tomorrow if i had to or the next day or the next in order to pursue the prospects if this doesn't work. >> of course, bear in mind he's been to israel 11 times to try to solve this. it seems that america has no reliable partners in the region to turn to.
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egypt attempted to broker a ceasefire and fallen through. perhaps revealing how much moral authority the regime in egypt has lost. how about the gulf states? facing a looming iran nuclear program, chaos in syria and uncertain leadership in egypt, all bets are now off. let's get the latest from the region. i'm joined by the global post's reporter. thank you for being here. is there any hope in israel at this point of any form of an agreement being resurrected or is this just dead? >> first, thank you for having me. i don't think there's any hope right now. there was -- for an agreement i would say foreseeable few days. there was a weird moment today in which there was a kind of limbo because the ceasefire had been announced at 9:00 a.m. and there was a very brief window, maybe an hour, hour and a half, without rockets or projectiles
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of any sort sent and i was kind of preparing a story about man on the street, right? everybody who i tried to ask questions to come back at me and say, did they sign a ceasefire? by 3:00 p.m. getting ready to post something, the ceasefire had collapsed officially and formally and the whole conflict was back on again. >> and noga, the initial reports that there's now a single israeli casualty, do you expect that to ramp up israel's actions here? >> i don't know. i kind of hope not. that it's not an individual thing. it is hard to gauge. by the way, this is the first fatality caused by a direct hit by mortar or a rocket but there have been -- there's been some pretty severely wounded young girls, two sisters yesterday. i think two people died while having heart attacks racing to the shelters and hard to gauge,
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you know? but this is the first direct hit and we'll see. i think that things are about to escalate so badly anyway in the coming few hours and the one fatality may not be the determined factor. >> noga, you render the human stakes of this clearly. it is devastating what's happening on the ground. we'll be keeping an eye on what comes out of the latest news of the israeli killed and expecting netanyahu to deliver remarks any minute. noga, thank you and stay safe out there. >> thank you very much. as the aggressions resume against gaza, i wanted to hear straight from the leadership. let's bring in from tel aviv, chief spokesperson for benjamin net netanyahu. thank you for coming back, sir. >> thank you. >> do you have any expectation of how this first casualty will affect israel's course of action here? >> i think we know where we are. we know the nature of the opponent.
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hamas is deliberately targeting civilians. they have shot a thousand rockets at our cities trying to kill our people and we have no illusions. the fact that they threw out this ceasefire opportunity and condemned us all to continue this conflict i think shows exactly who they are. >> mark, we're talking about one israeli potentially dead now. i believe your government is confirming that at this point. but at this point we're also looking at nearly 200 palestinian civilians confirmed dead, almost 1,400 injured. many hundreds women and children. is there any point at which the level of retaliation from israel becomes too much? is there a stopping point? >> i reject the use of the word retaliation. we're not striking at terrorist targets in gaza because we want revenge over retaliation. we are trying to hit the terrorist infrastructure, the people who are shooting rockets at us. we're trying to stop their attacks on our people.
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our strategy is ultimately defensive. to bring about a sustained period of peace and quiet for the people of israel and to end that rocket fire. that's why we accepted the egyptian ceasefire proposals. let's be clear here. last night at about 10:00 local time here the egyptians went public with their proposals. both sides were given ample time until 9:00 a.m. local time this morning to prepare for the ceasefire. israel, we called a special meeting of the security cabinet deciding to agree to the egyptian proposals. the arab league not known for being particularly friendly to israel but the arab league endorsed the egyptian initiative and we ceased all military operations against terrorist targets in gaza as of 9:00 a.m. and held that ceasefire for more than six hours. and during that period, hamas both verbally said, no, we don't want the ceasefire and indeed they fired more than 50 rockets
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into israel trying to kill our people. hamas killed the ceasefire. hamas threw it away. if the conflict is continuing as we speak tonight, it's because hamas said no to a chance to end it. >> mark, certainly nobody doubts israel's need to defend itself in this but we have talked about this question of proportionately before. what about the questions of targeting a disabled person's home. was that proportional? >> first of all, i'm not going to apologize for the very low number of casualties on our side. i'm very happy that so far despite more than a thousand hamas rockets of gaza we have had so many casualties because we have invested billions in homeland defense and shelters and early warning in sirens and of course in iron dome which you have reported about extensively
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on msnbc. our ability to shoot down incoming rockets before they hit their targets in israel and that's an american-israeli joint venture and i thank the american people for the support of that. when we're striking terrorist targets in gaza, we're trying to be as surgically as possible in a complex combat situation because hamas -- making a maximum effort to save lives, hamas uses the people of gaza as a human shield. they embed their terrorist machine inside schools, sports stadiums, urban areas, mosques and so we have a very serious tactical challenge. how do you stop them shooting the rockets and same time not hurt innocent people and we are committed to try to avoid what the experts call collateral people. they're not our enemy. >> mark, attacking that clinic, the mosque that was recently struck, the head of police's house that killed i believe 18
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people and injured 50, that's all just an unavoidable consequence of trying to target terrorists targets? >> let's be clear. using the example of the head of police, not like he is from the new york police department. this is the head of internal security of hamas. he's the man that enforces hamas' iron fist over the people of gaza where they have got this, you know, islamist government and stamp out all freedom. he is not a police officer in the american sense of the word at all. it's more like a police officer that we knew from the old days of the iron curtain. and his -- his facility where he was living is a command and control center for the hamas military machine and as such is a legitimate target. we didn't want to see in that strike noncombatants hurt and we made an effort. we warned in advance with early warning. we even -- we have a system with a knock on the roof with a
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firecracker or a large explosive just to make a noise so people know, innocent civilians should vacate that premises and we are not happy that in that attack there were noncombatants hurt. for us, every noncombatant that's hurt that's a tragedy. >> i think everybody sees that it is a tactically complex situation and complex across the board, indeed. but when we talk about the numbers, mark, is israel going to address the fallout from the situation? 600,000 at risk of losing access to water, the tens of thousands displaced at this point? >> well, the fact that we supported the ceasefire shows we wanted this to end and people have to ask hamas how's it that you threw away the chance of a ceasefire? but we have also kept crossings open. we're allowing humanitarian aid into gaza to continue. we don't see as i said a moment ago the people of gaza as an enemy. there was a strained situation as one of the crossing points between israel and gaza was
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closed down by hamas and prevented trucks with aid from coming in and prevented those that needed treatment in israel. people in gaza come for medical treatment in israelis hospitals every day. they prevented them from leaving so i think if one's going to raise the humanitarian issue, we are doing a maximum effort to make sure that aid is delivered to the people of gaza. we understand it's difficult for them. ultimately, they are furious today. our intelligence says very clearly and i believe reporters, your own reporter in gaza reported this, too. the people of gaza are furious at hamas for throwing away a chance for a ceasefire. >> mark, we'll go to that reporter right now. we appreciate your thoughts on this situation. we have reached ayman mohideen and a take on how the u.s. navigates this situation from senior white house correspondent
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chris janua chris jansing. ayman, what did you see on the ground after the ceasefire fell apart and where do you see this situation headed? >> reporter: well, the news of the ceasefire late last night, there's initial reaction of palestinian factions here and starts on a low level in the organization. some senior level members of the organization in hiding and takes time for consultations to happen and safe to say now nearly 24 hours after the ceasefire announced, in the initiative, there is from the palestinian factions a rejection of the ceasefire does not meet demands and address the grievances of the palestinian people and local time 9:00 a.m. there was a barrage of palestinian rocket fire launched from gaza into israel and throughout the course aft day within the last hour we have seen israeli strikes in gaza so definitely not feeling like a ceasefire at all here. >> thank you.
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stay safe there. chris, you are looking at the u.s. response. secretary kerry said he is prepared to step in and go to a plane to the region. what does the white house have on the table? >> reporter: it is complicated, suspect it? if they felt he could make a difference, he would go to the region. i was in contact with the state department on sunday and they were giving it consideration. so obviously, the decision was made to give and these are the words of secretary kerry. egypt the time and space to see if they could make it work. hamas pushed back hard on this. they say that egypt is not a legitimate negotiator in this. they're deeply hostile to hamas. you know the background on this. the relationship has tattered badly ever since the president there was ousted and jailed and the -- egypt closed the tunnels that were so much a finance mechanism of hamas. provided about $200 million a
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year. and so, this is a very difficult situation to have egypt in there as a mediator and right now it's what the u.s. believes is the best course of action but clearly you heard in the statement of the secretary and heard it from the white house press secretary that the united states is committed to doing everything it can to deescalating the violence and certainly there's been a change as you reported at the top of the hour, ronan, that now an israeli has died in this. so, we'll wait to hear. there had been no questions and let's double check to make sure with my producer if there was anything new. the latest is from the defense minister, we'll make hamas regret it to think twice before going on another round of violence. but that was obviously from the israeli side. nothing yet from the white house briefing. >> seems like no end in sight. you make a terrific point, chris, how the relationship with egypt changed, found and the
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utility in addressing this kind of a situation and seems like they have no more leverage. chris jansing at the white house, thank you. appreciate it. >> thank you. we have a big scandal back home to address. the irs making it a lot easier for elections to be bought wholesale. senator bernie sanders is joining me live with the upsetting new details after the break. at every ford dealership, you'll find the works! it's a complete checkup of the services your vehicle needs. so prepare your car for any road trip by taking it to an expert ford technician. because no matter your destination good maintenance helps you save at the pump. get our multi-point inspection with a synthetic blend oil change, tire rotation, brake inspection and more for $29.95 or less. get a complete vehicle checkup only at your ford dealer.
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just imagine an america where elections are bought and where the groups doing the buying don't have to disclose much or any of it under the guise of charity. that's exactly where this country is headed and this week a big new blow, the irs isn't
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going to check 80% of applications for that charity status. irs scandal you all remember it was real. they used short cuts like searching for tea party group names to deal with a swell in those groups applying for tax exempt status but the shape it left the irs in could open the floodgates to a far bigger danger. look what happens when the supreme court upheld the social welfare groups take as much corporate and union money as they want. in 2012, those social welfare groups, political spending ballooned to $256 million. that's up from next to nothing only a few years before. and remember, they don't have to disclose nearly as much as political groups do. will the same happen to the charities that the irs now says it's barely monitoring? joining me now is vermont senator bernie sanders. senator sanders, good to have you back on the program.
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do you think it's dangerous to america if these 501c3 charities commandeered for the political spending? what kind of political landscape do you see if that happens? >> do i think it's dangerous? ronan, what we're talking about is fundamental undermining of american democracy. what goes on now in america in an election especially like in november is the vast majority of the people no longer vote. low-income people, working people to the tune of 80% don't vote and billionaire families like the koch brothers and others pouring hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars into the political process to help elect candidates to make the rich even richer. now, what you got now with the 501c4 is the fiasco of big money to put money in the so-called social welfare organizations without disclosure and that becomes ads on television,
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so-called issue advocacy, and also becomes a funnel for money to go to super-pacs to spend it any way they want. what you are looking at now is an extraordinarily dangerous situation and part in my view of a movement in this country towardal gar i can and not only the economy but the political life run by the billionaire class. >> what happened to the social welfare groups could happen to 501c3s if the irs is not monitoring them. a rep of california said that congress has been badgering the irs into inaction and might think, quote, wow, if i take action or not i might be called in front of congress. do you think that congress's response to the irs scandal is to blame? >> let's not be cute about this. republicans understand what is at stake here and what they want is to have the billionaires be
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able to put as much money into the political process as possible and without disclosure whenever necessary. so when you see republicans beating up on the irs, when you see republicans defunding or cutting back on funding for the irs and less ability to monitor what these organizations are doing, this is not an accident. this is a real goal. and let's be very, very clear. what the relationship of the republican party wants and you should talk to them about it, they won't deny it, is they want to end all campaign finance regulations. they don't have to go around the circle anymore. what they want is the ability of the koch brothers and others to be able to contribute as much money as they want directly into the candidates that they support. and that is the direction in which we are moving so you weaken the irs, you come up with this phony social welfare situation. you pass citizens, you have a
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supreme court ruling on citizens united. it leads us directly to a situation where billionaires own and control the candidates they support. >> thank you, senator sanders. this is an incredibly troubling story and seems at this point the irs might be broken beyond repair. for everyone at home equally troubled by this, stay with us. we have some original reporting on this issue. a deep dive into the firsthand human effects of this kind of slackening of campaign finance regulations in a key battleground state. first, immediately up ahead, something lighter. senator cory booker on a new mission to help ease partisan tensions. is it a little self indulgent? the nation's crisis of selfie just ahead. (birds chirping softly in background.) (loud engine sounds!) what! how's it going? heard you need a ride to school.
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tweet a picture with the pose and the sign saying i am jada like this one that i took. thousands of you responded including men saying it's time for men to stand up and respect women. joining me now is kevin powell, an activist, author and president of bk nation whose work focuses in part on violence prevention. thank you for being here. first, we wanted to say we're not naming the boys accused in the case and not charged with a crime yet and right now this is a juvenile case. houston police had no updates as of this morning and keeping at them. they say they're pursuing leads. i want to talk about this issue of boys and especially young boys. whats it about the culture of men in this country that leads teenage boys to respond to an assault by mocking it online? >> unfortunately, ronan, so many of us socialized to think that manhood is tied to violence, to being very disrespectful and aggressive towards women and girls. and the reality is 1 in 4 girls
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the fact that jada decided to stand up and speak for herself and not let this take away her voice and secondly it's incredible ignorance and insanity for someone, no matter how old they are, for a male to go online and brag about this. equally insane for people to recreate the jada pose and go viral. we know -- we just saw the mass murder in texas where a man who was upset his wife divorcing him and kills her relatives and their children, this kind of violence happens every single day in our country. males against females. and when you participate in it in that kind of way, you are saying that it's okay for us as males to do that to females. >> pushing back is such an important part of this conversation. kevin powell, appreciate it. for this week's call to action we have a twitter firestorm. nearly 5,000 of you have already
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three dozen counties are choosing their party's nominees in a second round of primary elections. but the first round, well, it's all sorts of drama, especially one race and wouldn't necessarily expect it. the one for state supreme court. more than $1 million in outside money poured into that race, mostly against one candidate. here's the problem. we don't know much about where that cash came from because the federal filing deadline for contributions between april 1st and june 30th isn't until today, long after the polls close. >> appearing on a friday in april. >> supreme court justice hudson sided with the predators. justice hudson not tough on child molesters. not fair to victims. >> almost nothing in there is true. >> reporter: state supreme court justice hudson the focus of a brutal aad tack in the election campaign this spring in north carolina. >> they sure know how to make
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you look terrible. take a photo and just -- ew. it was awful. but what bothers me more about it is not how it affected me personally but means for the system. >> reporter: and no one seemed to know who was behind it. the ad was created by an outside conservative superpac. justice for all. the address? a u.p.s. store. it's infiltrated the judicial battleground flooding local races with big money and transforming the game. >> they don't really care about our state. they're only about protecting their agenda, whatever it is. and we don't even have any way to know what it is because we don't know who they are. that's scary. >> reporter: scary but legal. the u.s. supreme court opened the floodgates in 2012 with the citizened united decision and the money followed. as a purple state that swung both left and right in recent
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elections, north carolina's a prime target for something that's increasingly the new formal in politics. dark money. the kind that isn't disclosed prior to a vote. in 2013, radical changes in north carolina's election laws allowed unlimited donations without having to disclose the source until july 15th. two months after the primary which hudson ultimately went on to win. >> it's one thing to be scared of the dark and another thing to be scared of the light. >> reporter: state representative glazer says dark money is a bipartisan problem. >> if citizens aren't careful and don't really work at understanding what the effect is of the kinds of money that are flowing into their state, i think we all stand to lose. >> reporter: glazer supporting two bills in the state senate that would help with transparency. there's disagreement on which side of the aisle is the greater perpetrator but there is agreement on one thing. >> disclosure.
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pure disclosure. the people have the right to give. it is a form of free speech but let's know who's giving the money. >> reporter: now outside money is surging into the closely watched senate race here. democratic incouple dent hagen takes on republican hillis in the november election and more than 90% of the tv advertising in that race is from outside groups. >> there's a lot of interest in this campaign. the democrats want to maintain the senate. we want to take the senate. >> reporter: so much at stake here in north carolina where it's worth remembering the state motto. to be rather than to seem. if you could say one thing to justice for all north carolina, what would it be? >> cut it out. honestly. >> reporter: we should say we reached out several times to the co-directors of justice for all north carolina for a statement, but either didn't hear back or one case our producer was asked to remove them from the contact list. i want to bring in the president of the republican pac go-pac and
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former spokesperson karen finney and contributor of msnbc. david, you have a unique perspective on how this works as someone that runs a pac. how do you that and maintain transparency in races like this one? >> well, you have to follow the rules set up by the internal revenue service who was put in charge of this when democrats and republicans locked arms and passed mccain-feingold where that legislation essentially said we're going to take the main control of the political system away from the parties and away from the candidates and give a lot of influence to outside groups, and arguably, if we want to get control back in this we have to allow candidates and political parties to play under the same rules that the outside groups play under. >> the thing is you say follow mccain-feingold and remarkable how much the rules are eroded in the wake of citizens united. karen, why judicial races
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specifically? why's that one consequence of this? >> redistricting was a big issue in 2010 and there have been a lot of challenges to some of those redistricting maps and so statewide judicial races, state supreme courts handle, a lot of those kind of cases and also when you are, you know, republican or democrat, you're trying to control the state legislature and the court as a way to ensure that the legislation that you're putting in place, the policies putting in place, are protected. but one thing i would just say, i disagree with david and not surprisingly, i think the biggest problem we have is that the penalties are meaningless. traditionally, they continued to be meaningless. some instances, yes, you have to pay a penalty but the penalty itself is such a small portion of the amount of money raised overall that a lot of pacs and organizations make the sort of calculated decision that, you know what? we'll pay the fee later. >> right. i think that story we heard about justice hudson is a real
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illustration of the slack penalties. dark money went from $5.2 million in 2006 to over $300 million in 2012 election. and it's surging into these races in places like north carolina. david, is there any way in which that's a problem in your view? >> well, ronan and karen, be careful. you'll talk yourself into thinking that candidates in political parties to take unlimited contributions to take on the outside groups. and i would also say to all of my friends who are lovers of barack obama had it not been for an outside group called organizing for america, he may not have become president of the united states because hillary clinton had the political machine locked up for her. and he needed to go to an outside group to be able to organize to get him momentum in new hampshire and in iowa and south carolina to ultimately go on to get the nomination so we don't want to be selective in which outside groups to target as being the bad guys. >> he's right, karen.
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this is bipartisan problem. >> it is a -- well, look. both sides would say, democrats would say we won't unilateral disarm, if this is happening on the republican side. big difference between something like americans for prosperity or crossroads gps and organizing for america. let's just be very clear. two very different -- three very different types of organizations there. >> we need a reform across the board. this is a -- >> absolutely. >> david, karen, appreciate it. >> thank you. up next, say it isn't so. why life in riverdale will never be the same again.
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it is going to be a sad day in riverdale tomorrow because, spoiler alert," archie andrews is scheduled to be shot and killed. well, not so much of a spoiler. the publisher announced the death back in april. tomorrow's release of "life with archie," the freckle-faced icon
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takes a bullet for his gay friend kevin keller in an assassination attempt. in this series, keller is a newly elected senator pushing for more gun control. so this is political on a whole separate issue. but archie will live on in other comic properties. what's the impact of the 73-year-old character's life ending in gun violence and protecting a gay friend? for a dynamic, well-informed opinion, we're joined by actress, comedian, leah delarian from "orange is the new black." >> thank you, honey. proud to be here. >> how significant is it to have this icon of americana killed in the name of a gay friend? >> i can't even hear you talk about this. all i can think of is when i was a teenager, archie and jughead were fighting over what malt to get at the shop. what the heck? he's a senator and fighting against gun control. he takes a bullet for his gay
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friend. is it significant? yeah, i would say it's definite proof that the world is changing a little bit. >> and we've actually got other comic news about the changing face of rights in the comic world. marvel is announcing a female thor character. >> so you're saying thor is now trans? >> let's go with that. i think it's a different individual, but i like the idea, the concept of thor as trans. we just made marvel more progressive than they are. >> than they even realize they are. >> we're talking about the power of fiction and pop culture to change the conversation. you're already a part of a property that is famous for doing just that. "orange is the new black" is sufficient fused in emmy nominations. how's that process been? >> i'm still drinking. the process has been. >> we're all drinking today. you just have an excuse. >> we have been having quite a little party all the way around. everybody, i think, feels unanimously humbled and really excited all at the same time. >> so you're in this series that's introducing new types of characters. what more do you think comic
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books should do? archie introduced this gay character in 2010. what's the last frontier? what do you want to see? >> i think they should make a cartoon character of me having a three-way with betty and veronica. >> wow. okay. 1:00 p.m., everybody. things just got real. >> anybody else? i think that will -- i think that will just shoot them into -- like "the house of cards" vice presidential three-way. it will be one of those things. >> also very dark. >> yes, yes. >> so what's next for "orange" on that front? any any concepts? >> yes, big boo becomes heterosexual. >> wait. you're screwing with us. >> i'm joking with you, yes. >> you can't make big boo heterosexual. >> no, never. not with me playing it. maybe it will be like in the soap operas. they'll get a completely different actor to play me. let's go with natalie portman. natalie portman becomes big boo, but no one ever says anything. >> if we get a scene with the two of you, totally worth it. maybe you should play the female thor.
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right? what do you think? audience, yes? show of hands. let's get your tweets. >> traveling companion. >> all right. well, we've experienced a lot of your fantasies. we're looking forward to seeing more and more of you on screen. also, you're going to be performing in province town. >> that's true. >> we're going to bring you back next time there's a rights fight in a pop culture medium. >> thank god. i am the voice of reason. >> saving tv one show at a time. and that wraps things up for today's edition of "rf daily." >> you are so pretty. >> back at you. we're going to cut her mic. now it's time for "the reid report" with my colleague joy reid. joy, what do you have coming up? speaking of pretty. >> leah just gave me life. we got leah, betty, and veronica. brave new world for all of cable tv. i love it. thank you very much. have a great day. i'll be binge watching your show later, leah. >> good, joy, good. >> talk to you later.
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coming up on "the reid report," the deportation of undocumented immigrants back to central america begins as one of the most recognizable and highest profile members of the undocumented community is himself detained. and canada, yes canada, comes to the rescue of detroit's tapped-out residents. "the reid report" is next.
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♪ great rates for great rides. geico motorcycle, see how much you could save. hello, earn. i'm joy reid. this is "the reid report." we're following two big stories this hour. first on immigration. pulitzer prize winning journalist and probably the highest profile undocumented immigrant in the united states, jose antonio vargas, has been detained. just as the first wave of undocumented women and children are put on planes and sent home to honduras. and the 11th hour attempt at a truce between israel and hamas militants is shot down as more bombs and more rockets rain down on civilians. we're live in tel aviv to bring
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you the latest. but we begin at the border, where today pulitzer prize winning journalist and immigrant activist jose antonio vargas who outed himself as an undocumented immigrant in a "new york times" article back in 2011 has been detained by border agents while trying to board a plane in mcallen, texas. vargas had traveled to the border to highlight the stories of the refugee children who are coming by the thousands from central america. before attempting to leave today, vargas tweeted this picture, showing his philippine passport and pocket-book size copy of the u.s. constitution. the award-winning writer and writer of the documentary "documented" came to the united states from the philippines. he didn't realize he was in the u.s. illegally until he was 16 and tried to apply for a driver's license. vargas was featured on the cover of "time" magazine after outing himself as an undocumented immigrant, ande'