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meantime, i advise you to avoid the bridges in west virginia. that does it for "the cycle." "now with alex wagner" starts now. coyotes and sheeps clothing. the border rhetoric getting wild. it's tuesday, july 15th, and this is "now." >> it makes it very difficult to believe things will get better the longer the house of representatives fiddles. can a texas tandem lead texas congress to ard boer bre border? >> and we all have to stand together. >> no you that there is movement with this new bill, we're going to start to see a lot of pushback. >> is this legislation dead on i rival? >> we'll wait until the task force comes back. >> [ inaudible ]. >> got lots of them. >> would you -- >> no. >> see what happens when you
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have this do nothing shutdown mentality. >> another heated showdown could be in the making. >> a bus load of immigrant women and children heads to arizona for processing. >> who are the real law breakers here? the little children on the bus or the protesters? >> they would rather die with hope than being murdered or dying of hunger at home. 11 days and today is almost over. so make that ten. that is how many working days congress has scheduled to hammer out a legislative solution to the border crisis before going home for all of august. as lawmakers scramble to find a compromise regarding what to do with the thousands of migrant children, a new bipartisan bill aims to make it easier to deport them. sponsored by republican senator john cornyn and henry kwair, make judges decide their cases within three day, adding up to
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48 immigration jumps to do so but unclear how much those 40 jumps could actually do to alleviate the crisis in the courts, given that the current 243 immigration judges nationwide are facing a backlog of more than 375,000 cases. these are all questions to be hashed out, and there is plenty of hashing to do. as white house officials prepare to meet tomorrow with members of the congressional hispanic caucus, some democrats are far from sold on the humanity of the humane act. democratic congressman luis gutierrez issued a scathing statement blasts the ash text of the bill "senator cornyn led the opposition to every single immigration reform proposal he has ever seen and is exploiting children, wrapping himself in a thin blanket of feigned compassion and he has gotten a democrat to stand with him." this is not the middle ground. this is the deportation-only agenda dressed up in sheep the clothing."
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and this afternoon, senate majority leader harry reid said he is a, no, on the bill, because he thinks it is too broad. the fierce debate comes as deportations are getting under way. a homeland security official tells nbc news that about 40 women and children flown back to honduras last night are just the initial wave of deportations. according to reuters, one of them was a 6-year-old girl who said she left honduras with her mother and embarked on a month-long dirt journey she called horrible, cold and tiring. the pair was trying to reunite with three uncles already living in the u.s. they are now back in the murder capital of the world, minus the $7,000 they paid a smuggler to bring them to america. joining me now is a democratic representative for texas' 28th district and, of course, co-sponsor of the he main act. congressman, thank you siege for joining metoday on what i am sure is is a busy day for you. let me first -- >> thank you so much. >> let me first ask you about congressman gutierrez's
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assertion this is a deportation agenda wrapped in sheep's clothing. what's your response to that? >> first of all, i support full immigration reform, signed on for immigration reform, number one. number two, right now what we want to do is, we want to put the best interests of the children in place and i think if you put them before a judge where the experience will make a decision as to whether that child has a case or not, this is what we want to do. it's taking three to five years, and as you know, there's 375,000 cases of backlog. we do have to put the resources, we do have to hire the judges, and i certainly want to make sure we work with president obama to get the resources down, noech not only to the border but to work with the latin-american countries. i just got back, and those presidents have said we want our children back but need help in the capacity to receive them, and to make sure that they are taken care of when they get back
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to those countries. >> to the point about the judges, do you think 40 immigration jumps will be able to adequately deal with the crisis? >> well, that's what we estimate, were ut if we need to put more jumps, i'll be the first to say, we need to add more judges. i've looked at the president's request, i support the president's request on the judges but i think we need to add more, and plus it's not only judges. you can yew video conferences, like we've been doing that, for so many years in the regular court system. >> do you really think, though, that videoconferencing and sort of speeding the process is the answer here? when we get reports from the u.n., hdr, they are saying that the screening process that you're suggesting we adopt, that we use for children from mexico actually fails to serve mexican children well and be puts the onus of proving humanitarian refuge on the children themselves. why duplicate that for thousands of more children? >> remember, if you deal with the mexicans, this is the way it's been happening, and i've not heard anybody in the last ten years complain about this. we have a protocol with the
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mexican government. all of the border patrol will ask somebody of age, a child, not a 2-year-old or 7-year-old, nothing like that. somebody that can make a independent decision. they'll ask them, do you have a case? they say, yes, you go through the court system. if they? them, do you want to be returned voluntarily, at that time after you go through the screening, that paperwork and that child will be delivered to the mexican consulate. the mexican consulate would then take the child, review the record, and then the mexican consulate, their own country, they will make a decision whether that child should be returned back to mexico. that's the way the system works. >> congressman cuellar, the u.n. high commission on refugees does not have the same conclusion and think the system failed mexican children and that mexican children are forced into an untenable situation and it has failed them. do you have any response to that? >> well, i certainly do. i mean, are we going to put our judgment in front of the mexican government, you know, the ones that represent these kids? i mean, we've got, at some time,
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we have to make a decision whether we trust the countries that we're working with. we're working on trying to work with mexico, central america. i'll be the first to say we got to address the root problems we have, but the law we have right now is either you claim asylum, credible fear or you're a victim of a sex crime. we leave every single protection there, don't touch the protection. what we're interested in giving the due process to the child, so that child doesn't have to wait three to five years and they can go up there before a judge. that judge will make the preliminary decision, and the judge says -- it's been a basic preliminary decision, then they can move on with the process, hss will get them. hss will place them with their families, just the way we're doing that. we just want to add the preliminary hearing before, and that judge, and an experienced judge, will make that decision. >> congressman, harry reid came out, 24 hours after this bill was proposed and said he's not going to support it. are you worried at all you may
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be just giving republicans cover saying this is a bipartisan bicameral bill and not truly understanding the democratic caucus? >> listen, i represent my district. i will always stay a democrat. looking at the legislation, i released the photographs before anybody said there was a crisis. i've been working on this and talked about changing the law before anybody started talking about this. so, again, this is just from my thorough work that i've done, working with border patrol, getting ideas from them, talking to other folks. talking to the mexican consulate to the central american countries. i'm doing what i think is right and all we're trying to do is provide a due process where they can get a hearing before faster. that's the crux of the bill. and, again, we haven't filed a bill yet. so let's -- let's look at the bill. let's file it and then if somebody has a better suggestion, somebody has a better suggestion, i'll be the
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first to say, let's look at your suggestion. i just want to locate practical solutions to a crisis. we've got to put money down there and i support the president that we need to put money down there, and at the same time we need to ing cha the poli policy. change the policy. >> congressman henry cuellar from texas. thank you for your time. joining me, washington bureau chief of the "huffington post" ryan grimm. you just heard the congressman defend his bill, the details of which still, it seemed, remain fungible, if you will. do you think the humane act is going anywhere? >> you know, it might. only because the president and his supporters want these several billion dollars to try to deal with the humanitarian crisis at the border right now. so in other words, make future children pay, and the current children who are stuck there, in order to resolve this crisis, because these children currently have special rights, as a result of this 2008 law, that was
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related to sex trafficking that says basically you can't send children back if they're going to be in danger. that puts more of an onus than this bill, as he said in a few days a judge could stamp an entire room full of them, get put on a bus or plane and sent back, to a places that is ravaged, incidentally, by a drug war that is funded by the united states, and by gangs that were deported from the united states to these countries. so it's a bit of a hypocrisy there to be unwilling to pay for the consequences of the turmoil that we're causing ourselves down there. >> yeah. ryan, in terms of the split among democrats, and the president is meeting with the congressional hispanic caucus tomorrow. congressman gutierrez came out in very strong language denouncing this proposal. harry reid is saying that he is going to be a "no" vote on it. a clear split between the white house, wanting amending that trafficking bill, and the democrats in congress who are going to be responsible for
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passing it? >> right. so this is something that conservatives tend to be better at than liberals. liberals are just unwilling, in the end, to say, no. this is wrong on principle. and i'm not going to do it. and watch the immediate situation continue to fester. so you know, luis got tearase may do it or in the end come around. it's a humanitarian crisis that tugs at the heartstrings. the white house has a lot of power and they're pushing for it. so it remains to be seen how this is going to unfold, but if i had to bet i think some version of this will get attached to the money as it goes through. >> and i wonder, to what degree there's going to be any follow-up in terms of the bell-being of these children? i mean, this is what the u.n. has called a refugee crisis, as valdet whileman, attention for returned migrants in honduras says many of the mothers these children are returned to are not
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even their own mothers. to say this process -- even the deportation of the mexican children that happens in quick order, seems to be an incredibly flawed process, and there has beenry discussion just how bad it is and just how bad it could be as question expedite these cases. >> right. imagine if at the height of the civil war in iraq, refugees were streaming out of there, that jordan decided to close its border and say, look, we have a process. >> exactly. >> everybody needs to get in line if they want to become a citizen. or you put children on buses and sent them back into baghdad. honduras is a brutal place now and every person we send back there, we're responsible for what happens. >> the huffington post's ryan grimm. thank you, as always, my friend. after the break, a short-lived cease-fire leads to new bloodshed in gaza. i'll talk with the wilson's center jane harmon about the process for peace, next on "now." er and easier for you to start your business, protect your family,
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in today's world, it's an understatement to say that diplomacy is difficult. >> that truism and that general frustration basically sums up u.s. thinking an an egyptian attempt to broker a cease-fire between israel and hamas failed precipitously. it lasted all of a few hours. earlier hamas fired over 125 rockets and mortars into israeli territory resulting in the first israeli casualty of the eight-day flare-up. in response, benjamin netanyahu offered a fresh warning saying hamas continues to fight and will pay the price for that decision. when there is no cease-fire, our answer is, fire. israel had temporarily held fire overnight went on the offensive striking more than 30 targets in gaza. palestinians released figures on the death toll shows 194
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palestinians have been killedened a over 1,400 inyou ared during the eight-day bo bombardme bombardment. the international committee of the red cross advised hundreds of thousands of people in gaza are now without water. secretary kerry had considered flying to the mideast to aid peace talks instead of returning to washington, but after the breakdown of the truce, he was only able to offer faint words of hope. >> we believe that it was important to give this offer an opportunity, and i still think perhaps reason could prevail, if the political wing can deal with the military wing and egypt can have have leverage,less see what happens. >> a senior israeli official expressed the same sentiment telling nbc news the country will wait 48 hours to see how the situation develops before re-engaging diplomatically. joining me now, director and president of the woodrow wilson center, jane harmon. thanks so much for joining metoday. >> thank you, alex. >> a fast-moving news day.
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my first question, does either side benefit from this? netanyahu came out with strong language. "foreign policy" magazine contends this entire tete ete-a making hamas stronger. >> i think it's a lose-lose. that israel has to defend herself. she has a right to defend herself. the palestinian people are dying, the people in gaza are dying in greater numbers because israel has a technological shield over the country. but a hubad died today trying to feed the troops and awful stories about palestinians watching the world cup and dying in cafes. any rate, bottom line, there is not going to be a military solution here. there has to be a negotiated solution and what john kerry was talking about.
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the political wing talking to the military wing. obviously, the hamas leaders are separated from the palestinian authority government, which is standing on the sidelines here. and i guess his hope is that somehow through this sort of proposed reconciled government or some way, there could be a calmer minds, heads, thinking about this problem on the side of the palestinians. the israelis already offered once to enter into a cease-fire, and it would be very, very positive if the egyptians, they may not be the best mediators, or somebody, could mediate this as soon as possible. >> to that point, the egyptians mediating this, i mean, i was sort of surprised to hear the u.s. secretary of state saying, let's see what happens, and there has been a lot of analysis that america has fewer and fewer friends in the middle east to help it negotiate. that would seem to be borne out by the example of the egyptians trying to negotiate a truce and that truce lasting for only a
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couple of hours. have we -- go ahead. >> well, we have a lot of friends. and we have a lot of relationships, and john kerry personally does. yes, the peace process, this negotiation he was trying to, he and martin indyk were trying to help over nine months has failed for now, but in the middle east, nothing ever begins and nothing ever ends. the issue about the egyptians is interesting, because they did perform a successful mediating function about two years ago. the last time there was this violence, and that was because the muslim brotherhood leaders in egypt had affirmative relationships with the hamas leaders. that is not longer truth, since the moss lumb brotherhood is yacht lewed in egypt and the kro ud in power, the cc former military government, doesn't have any relationship with hamas. that's a difference, were ut there are other states in the region. we don't -- by the way, p.s., we don't have a relationship with hamas either. we've called it a terrorist
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organization, and do with the palestinian authority. that's what john kerry was talking about when he saided the political wing and the military wing. hopefully will get together norm. bottom line, there needs to be a cease-fire, a political solution and the then there needs to be certainly, this is my view, a restart to the peace process. two states living in peace side by side is a much better outcome than states lobbing rockets at each other, and a shield, which is working well, protect ittipr of the civilian population. that's a bet on short-term survival and i want this region to be healthy and i think the potential is so enormous if peace, a recipe for peace could be found. >> yes. to speak to that, the health of the region, jane, there has been a "wall street journal" news story discussed much in washington that contends that the breadth of global instability now unfolding hasn't been seen since the late 1970s,
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according to unnamed u.s. security strategists and among those outlined, fighting in syria, renewed fighting between israel and hamas, ukraine, electoral crisis in afghanistan, fondering iran nuclear negotiations, ho you much do you put on the current administration -- if any? >> oh, dear. obama came into power in the worst economic crisis since the great depression. the wars in iraq and afghanistan certainly were not started on his watch. and he, one of his big campaign things, he never would have voted to go into iraq. in hindsight, was were the correct position. not the position i took. i voted for it because i believed in the flawed intelligence. anyway, you can't roll back the videotape. he inherited a very dangerous world and i think there's more we can do. let me not say this is static and we can blame everybody else. he's the president. he's the commander in chief and he's been there 5 1/2 years. i don't think we have a good foreign policy narrative. the perception of us by others,
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i'm not saying this is our policy, but this is how it's perceived it, it's don't do stupid stuff plus let's use drones, and i don't think that is going to win the hearts and minds or the minds and hearts of the folks in the middle east or anywhere else. it's very important for this administration to be clearer about what our objectives are. and i actually think the effort, the heroic effort, that john kerry and martin indyk made in the middle east is commendable, and i think many people there would agree with that. some would say it was -- impossible to succeed, but, hey, i think idealism does have a place in foreign policy. and let's understand that even though the poll numbers about america around the world, the pew poll number, really pretty dismal. when you ask the people in those countries if they'd like to come to the u.s., you always hear, you bet. sorry our government, or the perception of our government may not be popular, but our culture and our people are, and i think we have a lot of pluses that we are underplaying.
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>> the woodrow wilson be center's jane harmon. pleasure to have you on the program. thank you for your time. >> thank you. coming up, on thin issa. the white house literally asked congressman darrell issa to drop it. details on that, coming up next. you know.... there's a more enjoyable way to get your fiber. try phillips fiber good gummies. they're delicious and an excellent source of fiber to help support regularity. mmmm. these are good! the tasty side of fiber. from phillips
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what would darrell issa know about that jp talking points mellow reports issa made an unusual move in that the white house aides are traditionally off limits in the absence of extraordinary circumstances. mainly due to concerns about separation of powers. but when you're darrell issa, every situation is extraordinary. in counce imasking the chairman to withdraw the subpoena, a letter calling issa's course of action precipitated and surprising in light of our clear willingness to work with you to meet your information's needs and the fact you have not pointed to any evidence that the office of political strategy has violated the hatch act. darrell issa, no evidence? shocker. white house officials held a briefing with issa's aides today, but to know avail. a leak this afternoon, the congressman confirmed he will not drop the subpoena and reit are airted he expects mr. seamus will appear before his committee
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no property tax. no business tax. and no sales tax. which means more growth for your business, and more jobs. it's not just business as usual. see how new york can help your business grow, at startup.ny.gov today congress took a break from names post office ares and did something it almost never does. it did something. the senate considered not one but two pieces of legislation making it easier for women to gain access to reproductive health care. two weeks after the supreme court decided up to 90% of for-profit, coulds can deny women coverage for contraception, lawmakers dweebted a bill sponsored by senators patty murray and mark udall to reverse that decision. >> with the court's ruling in hobby lobby, rpgs coulds and ceo have been awarded the right to
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play gate keeper as a part of their health insurance plan. >> and the doing something didn't end there. the senate also held a hearing on the women's health protection act. a bill that bans onerous and costly state level restrictions on health clinics that provide abortions. how did republicans react with affording women better health care? wild hyperbole. >> it would lead to inhumane, unsanitary dangerous proportions. >> the suggestion that somehowfrangs or italy or spain or portugal, much of the civilized world, is somehow insensitive to the rights of women is rather extraordinary, and the idea that america would rush out to embrace china and north korea for the standard on human rights is chilling. >> this is a 3d ultra sound of my grandson. this is the wonder of science.
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>> joining me now, democratic senator from wisconsin and co-arthur of the women's health protection act, and the president of pro-choice america. congressman, start with the reaction from your colleagues on the right. it is not, i think, a huge shocker that ted cruz and marcia blackburn are not in favor of supporting a women's right to choose and making sure she has free and fair access to clinics that provide abortions, but are there any republicans that you can hope, senator, to join you on this piece of legislation? >> well, certainly we hope that we will get republican support as this bill is fully debated and advanced, because there are republicans who care deeply about women's reproductive freedom, and have watched with very strong concerns as states across the united states have
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passed restrictions that do nothing to advance women's health or safety, but are only focused on trying to limit access to abortion care, and comprehensive reproductive services, and we have seen over 200 laws enacted in states across the united states in the past three years alone, that are limiting access, are closing clinics, and it's finally time through this legislation to call a stop to all of that. >> elise, the senator, and many congresspeople, democrats mostly, on the hill, are trying to reverse what seems to be some very bad decisions by the high court and bad decisions on the part of state legislatures. the reality is 68% of women live in burdens on health clinic, 26 states require them to wait 42, 78 hours before receiving
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medical care. 20 states have ultrasound counseling laws. it would 0 seseem, you know, th reason science points one way, the anti-choice movement has made great strides in this country and perhaps are winning the day on this issue? >> well, you know, i think that we're seeing a shift in momentum. you know, the reality that so many women are living without access to abortion care, where their constitutional rights are not guarantee d anymore, that te things that have happened lately, like the hobby lobby decision at the supreme court, what i said today is we've awakened the pro-choice majority in this country. 7 in 10 americans across the country believe a woman is best suited to make decisions about how and when and with whom we have kids. i think these senators are so out of line that you quoted, we're so grateful to senator baldwin's leadership, along with
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her colleague, senator blumenthal, because what we're seeing them state unkwivicably is a woman's constitutional right should not be determined by where she lives in this country. we are all americans and all deserve equal access and the conditions senator grassley was gribing in that clip are exactly what we know happen when women's access to safer and legal abortion care is limited, and so this is what this bill intends to fix, and our members are geared up and behind it 100%. >> senator, what do you say to detractors of this work? i mean, marcia blackburn was in the u.s. house of representatives with a 3d ultra sound of her grandson and espousing pseudoscience about abortions and about choice. it is increasingly a frustrated conversation that happens between the left and the right on this very topic. republicans have cherry picked scientific fact on a host of
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issues, or just outright denied scientific reality. how do you have the conversations bean hide closed doors? >> well, behind closed doors or in the light of day, the conversation is about the reality of these hundreds now of state laws that are restricted a woman's right to choose, and frankly, that is a fundamental constitutional right. you know, it is not the first time in history that states have passed laws that frustrate people's access to fundamental constitutional freedoms, and when they do, it is congress' responsibility to step in and pass federal law to make sure that people's constitutional rights, no matter where he live in the united states, are protected. >> elise, let me ask you in terms of the atrophy of the national conversation. todd akin, recently climbing out of his self-made todd akin hole, trying to defend comments about legitimate rape saying in fact he was just trying to talk about
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the roam stress plays in infertility. i know where democratic women stand on this, but what do you say to republican women who may be listening to todd akin with open ears? >> i'm pretty nuer no one is listening to aiken with open ears anymore. i will stress, what we know better for our health, families, politicians, that at the grass roots level is not a partisan issue, in fact, most people believe we should have that choice. so whether it's todd akin, or, you know, senator grassley, or senator it cruz, who we're making up facts and science all through the morning, and combat this bill, because the facts support this bill, i think we're going to see more and more women and men across the spectrum reject the idea that anyone knows better than us, our partners, our family and our doctors, what's best for us.
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>> and senator baldwin, on that note, may i say i loved the fact that these bills have been co-sponsored by male legislators. i think it is important to overdo and wonder follow see. >> absolutely. and i'll give a shout-out to senator blumenthal, with him i've worked closely on this issue and i'm proud to co-sponsor it with him. >> senator tammy baldwin, and thank you both for your time. >> thank you, alex. >> thank you. coming up -- in a world where corruption and budget crises reign, wen governor has the gull to abdicate all responsibility for any of it. the new trailer, from kchris christie studios is just ahead. (son) oh no...
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219 nigerian schoolgirls still missing. three months after the terror group boko haram kidnapped them during final exams and threat chbed to sell them into slavery. with little international attention focused on their plight, a 16-minute video
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released yesterday in which he ridicules a rallying cry to save the girls [ speaking in foreign language ] . >> the new video, a meeting between malala yew seousafzai. >> consider them as my sisters. they are my sister, and i'm going to speak of them and i am going to participate actively in bricking them back home and the campaign to make sure they return safely to their country and their education. >> boko haram translates western education for women is a sin and ruthlessly effective at keeping young girls out of school. the same area where the girls were abducted, terrorist
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bombings kept schools closed for 120,000 children. does this mean boko haram is winning? written in the "new york times," a fierce ambition to study complains why those 219 girls in northern nigerian showed up to take final exams even though then knew the risks of terrorism. some dreamed of becoming teachers, doctors, loy lawyers and now may be enive slaed in a forest and perhaps married out of to militants. assassinating teachers, attackiattack ing schools because it know lit reiss is the end of extremism. terrorists understand the importance of education. do we? great to see you g. to see you, alex. >> is boko haram actually getting stronger after all of this international attention paid to the sort of, the violence, the brutality of their actions? last month they potentially extended their reach to lagos,
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commercial center of nigeria. you saw the video we played. not of course confirmed but the leader seems in no way cowed. have they -- is there a strength increas increased. >> not sure it's increased, but not weakened. this was an opportunity for nigeria and surrounding countries to put a dent in boko haram and that has not happened. the military seems to be, the military of nigeria seems to be withdrawing from confrontation with boko haram, feeling overpowered and instead, its practice, pick on young muslim men in northern nigeria and attack them. that creates more sympathy and support for boko haram. >> what about the international attention? we know that this -- the bring back our girls hash tag launched 1,000 instagram photos from notable people from the first lady to celebrities, to artists and musicians, and i think for those folks familiar with advocacy campaigns, a great moment, yet it was so
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short-lived. those girls are still missing, not been brought back home. how distressing do the think the evaporation of international attention is? >> unfortunately, its main impact on nigeria and all that pressure was not for the nigerian government to actually go and try to improve education or try to get back the girls, rather for them to hire a public relations firm for $1.2 million to improve its international image, and it also has not -- look, it's hard to rescue those girls. we don't know exactly where they are. maybe intelligence community does. we don't. but if that outrage could translate into more support for girls education globally, then that would be a great thing. and instead, in the last few years, global financial support for education is actually declined. so it really is sad to see this, enthusiasm, wane so quickly. >> yes. to that point about combating terror and the sort of priority we've put on drones and unmanned
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aerial strikes as opposed to education, and sort of the soft power stuff that america used to be better at, or at least used to invest in more, the american international aid for education is down 43% from 2010. how do we change the narrative on that? that is a downward trajectory for something that should be on an upward trajectory? >> absolutely. you know, i think that the public doesn't get the impact of education, and there's a natural kind of affinity from blowing things up, because that seems to be effective, and surely we need the military toolbox, and the toolbox is effective in cases, but nobody understand better than the military that there are weaknesses there. that's why the military, for example, in afghanistan, was for education. then understand you need the education toolbox as well, and i just find it so sad that extremists living in medieval times understand the transformative power of education and we don't.
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>> let me ask you, in terms of just back to nigeria and good luck jonathan for a ept month, it is shocking to me that the military in nigeria has not debriefed all the girls that escaped captivity from boko haram, and you said, the nigerian government hired a p.r. firm to help deal with this crisis. we talked be a the international intention sort of putting pressure on nigeria. what is another lever that can be used? is it a renewed international attention? what moves the nigerian government to do the right things? renew its effort to rescue 219 captured schoolgirls? >> the only things we can do, try to highlight this great pressure, not just on nigeria but rur sounding governments, cameroon, on chad, and others, and try to in a sense form a government pincher that limits boko haram and work with the nigerian military and try to raise the costs when they go out and slaughter young muslim men in the north, thereby creating more support. at the end of the day, there's
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only so much you can do pushing from afar. unfortunately, so far the president, goodluck jonathan and the military completely dropped the ball. malala is the only grown-up out there. >> a 17-year-old on her birthday renewed the wish to get them free. it is a shocking turn of events. we're not -- a slow-motion shocker, if you will. the fact this played out over the course of a quarter of a year. >> and of course, not just those girls, so many other teachers have been attacked, schools attacked. girls who aren't able be to attend school, and you know it would be great to see this become a moment when we could support education more broadly. >> well, part of it begins with people writing great columns, renewing our attention on it. always great to see you. thank you for writing what you do. from the "new york times." coming up, the already saturated field of mediocre summer blockbusters got a little more crowded. the latest releases from chris kri kristy studios it just ahead.
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a budget crisis exacerbated in no small part by one governor's steadfast refusal to raise taxes on millionaires, unemployment among the highest in the nation. sits near the bottom of all 50 states. no pain, no gain. today, new jersey governor chris christie, the man presiding over all of those things released this -- >> this summer, from the makers of -- >> together we've begun to clean up the mess of the past. pensions, health benefits, and debt service. >> when you thought it was over. >> we're in danger of having these costs overwhelm our budget. >> it's back. >> we need to fix this system or it will eat us alive. >> choosing to do what's hard. choosing to do what is right by all of the people of this state. >> how far would you go?
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>> there is no other way to fix a severe problem like this, but with pain. >> christie's over the top attempt at self-parody would be just that, if it weren't directly at odds with his actual record. this spring the governor is choosing not to make over $2 billion in scheduled pension payments, amove that financial an rigids say will likely lead to further downgrades in the state's ed credit rating and the budget crisis worst down the road. when it comes to actual deficit reduction measures like the tax on millionaires prosed by new jersey democrats, christie refuses. so no pain. then this. earlier this year new jersey reported a budget gap of nearly $2 billion. reason? state revenue growth in the last three years came in short of christie's projections by billions of dollars. so no gain. as it turns out, the real movie isn't always as exciting as the trailer. that's all for now. see you back here tomorrow at
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4:00 p.m. eastern "the ed show" is up next. good evening, americans, and welcome to "the ed show" live are from new york. i think i'm ready to go! let's get to work. we shouldn't be protecting tax loopholes for a few companies that shift massive profits overseas. >> the united states will levy punitive tariffs on korean steel pipe imports. >> rally against alleged steel. >> the issue here is dumping. >> illegal dumping of steel in america, which is gutting our infrastructure. >> american workers pay the price. >> the u.s. commerce department decision reverses one of the most contentious trade disputes in the u.s. >> stand up for american workers, and enforce maritime trade practices. >> a key victory for u.s. steel. >> first-class infrastructure