that's "the ed show." "politics nation" with reverend al sharpton starts now. rev, always good to get fresh air. good to go out and smell the fresh air, but it's good to be back. >> good to have you back, ed. good to see you. >> all right. >> you're looking great. >> i'm trying. >> thanks to you for tuning in. i'm live tonight in washington, d.c. tonight's lead, a stunning report on new allegations about the kkk and a florida department. state officials are investigating two police officers who are off the job for allegedly being members of the klan. one was fired. one resigned. >> state agents delivered a report last week from an international fbi investigation that indicated the two officers have ties to the ku klux klan. forrest served as the fire chief was confronted with the with

information. after speaking with his family he resigned both jobs. the state attorney is now reviewing every arrest made by either officer, especially those involving minorities, to see if they will hold up in court. >> both men have denied ties to the kkk. but now any case they were involved with -- any arrest they made has to be looked at for possible racial bias. there are growing questions about the past. in 2009 in that same department, a police officer resigned after these photos surfaced showing him wearing klan robes. the other klansmen were never identified. the police chief at the time guaranteed that no one else in the department was in the kkk. now the man in that photo says that's not true.

james elkins told the southern poverty law center, quote, they knew i wasn't the only one then. they swept it under the rug. i hope they don't get away with doing it again. the law center also says elkis estimated that at least four members of the department belonged to the klan when five years ago he was patrolling the streets of fruit areland park. he added that probably ten of the 12 full-time officers were with sympathetic to the klan. these are disturbing allegations. the new police chief says most of the officers from that time are gone, though not the two identified in the most recent allegation. this part of central florida has a long, ugly history of kkk activity and racial violence. it's just down the road from

sanford, florida, where trayvon martin was killed two years ago. tonight there are tough questions about race and justice in florida. joining me now is don terry from the southern poverty law center. he interviewed that former klansman for his report. darryl owens, columnist for the orlando sentinel, writing about criminal justice and race relations. thank you both for being here. >> thank you. >> thanks for having me, reverend. >> darryl, let's start with the with allegations about the two police officers. how does it affect cases they are involved with, past and present? >> it would certainly seem to jeopardize caseses both past and present because whether or not the police officers actually did anything improper there is the perception that because of bias their cases could be tainted.

>> here is another quote from your interview with the former police officer who was in the kkk. el kins said, quote, the entire purpose of the movement is to put people in government. you will never get someone elected under the night's party or the american naz party. is this a new strategy for groups like the kkk to get them inside of government and find a way to do it without with exposing who they are? >> i don't think it's a new strategiment they are trying to adapt to the times, go under cover a little bit. there have always been klans members in police departments, especially in the south. it's not as big a problem as it was in the 50s and 60s. they are not exposed very often but they were there a long time.

>> in 2009, a florida corrections officer in a nearby county was fired for being a klans man. earlier this area a local kkk leader said his group had infiltrated positions of influence. watch this. >> what you have seen is just the tip of the iceberg here. we have police officers, paramedics, judges. they're everywhere. so we are seeing this recently it's hard to dismiss when you see these examples time after time. now popping up in this part of. if we can take the klan leader

at his word, the community should be concerned this may be a growing trend. >> what is the center getting from its research about hate groups in florida and throughout the south? is there any new data that should raise concerns or is it that we have been ignoring this and now it's coming out? what is the sentiment able to uncover? >> we haven't been ignore it. we have been tracking these groups. i'm not sure about the numbers in florida. the issues are still here. still a hatred toward president obama is driving a lot of this. the issue is still very much at the forefront. i would like to say whether someone is in the klan or not it's the behavior of the police or a hate group or any group they are in. for 20 years in chicago there

was a band of police officers torturing and beating black suspects into beth row for crimes they didn't commit. the officers who beat up rodney king weren't in the klan. or the recent officer who beat up a black woman on the highway in california. as far as i know the issue is the behavior and training and insensitivity. >> if you have people in the klan or in hate groups, certainly the fact that they are colleagues didn't tell on them or interview. it's got to be troublinging. i agree. it's hard in the departments particularly that small to believe other members of the police department may not who known that they were participating in that. they didn't turn them in. this came from an fbi

investigation. >> certainly that's a possibili possibility. i would like to give the other officers the benefit of the doubt. you may or may not know what your colleagues are doing in their private lives outside of their work hours. hopefully if there were signs someone could come forward and point out, it's not illegal for police officers to be members of hate groups but it's disturbing that the people who are charged with protecting the community would have this kind of racial animus in dealing with people of another race, creed or ethnicity. >> the history gives us 51 klans men were suspected of murdering harry and harriet moore. their daughters were asked about the recent increase in klan

activity. >> i remember saying i don't believe my daddy is dead. >> reporter: evangeline moore was 20, on a train from washington, d.c. to visit her parents when, on christmas night, a bomb went off in their home. >> they murdered my parents. it was done because of hatred. >> these are the kinds of things many of us felt was left behind. even if it's just two officers we know that we still must remain vigilant. two is too many. >> exactly. that's what the police chief in fruitland park is tying to do, remain vigilant. he's are really trying to get at and professionalize the department. most of the officers who were around when mr. james elkins was there, requirtired, beeleft, bed

to quit, whatever. there were these two leftovers but the new chief, i think, is sincere in trying to get them on a better path. >> it seemed in your interview elkin was forthcoming. what do you think is the reason he was exposing all of this and is there other things that you think are noteworthy? >> he told me he felt betrayed by other klansmen who didn't back him up. he felt adrift. i think it was maybe a little payback involved. he said his life is an open book. he doesn't call himself a racist. he's a white nationalist.

you have heard the rap. i'm not racist or prejudice. i just think white people are being discriminated against. that's his view now. >> we are going to keep on watching this. the police chief you referred to is police chief isaacs. we hope to have him on soon. thank you both for your time tonight. >> thank you. >> thank you very much. coming up, arizona residents protest the arrival of undocumented immigrant children as hateful graffiti pops up in maryland. why this border crisis is a defining moment of who we are as a nation. plus, president obama calls out the gop's political stunts, wasting time and money. and an explosive investigation by the nbc investigating team at a miami station exposes a botched sting operation from the

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to this day republicans in the house have done nothing. while the president is trying to fix the border crisis now here is speaker boehner today. >> we are awaiting chairman rogers and the appropriations committee and the president's request. i expect by the end of the week we should have answers. >> while republicans play politics, hateful protests against immigrants are breaking out across the country. today in arizona, protesters gathered to block immigrant children from being bussed to a temporary detention center. in maryland, this disturbing message scrawled outside a proposed detention center. no illegals here, no undocumented democrats. it's misspelled, but the message

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a are. children running from catastrop catastrophe. the debate over border control and immigration reform is a real and legitimate one to have. the next time you hear about children near the border, picture them as your own. then think what you would want our government to do. joining me live from texas is victoria difrancesco-soto. >> thank you. >> i see this as a defining moment of who we are as a nation. what's your take on the ugly talk from many on these kids. >> it's so saddening. we have seen a number of protests in texas, california. but sadly i'm not surprised.

what's scary to me about the protests the this is just the tip of the iceberg. from protests we walk a thin line over to militia. arizona has a long history of having armed militias patrolling the border. we have seen a number of incidents of the militiamen taking the law into their hands and killing innocent undocumented persons. this is my fear of what's going to happen. the folks are doing thing without respect for law. >> elected officials are using ugly rhetoric to describe the children. listen to florida representative rich nunugent. >> a lot of the children, quote/unquote, they are gang affiliated. when you have those types coming across the border, they are not children at that point. >> georgia representative phil gendry wrote a letter to the cdc

saying the immigrant children are posing health risks. he wrote he was concerned about reports of illegal migrants carrying deadly diseases such as swine, dengue fever, ebola virus. the ebola virus doesn't even exist in central america. how can they make such claims? >> they are misinformed claims. it's about the hype. it's not the gang members. they are staying in central america. the kids want a new life so they are coming. as far as disease, nbc news did a fantastic report on breaking down these false claims. there is nothing there. yes, the kids probably have minor illnesses. they have been on the road for a couple of weeks. nothing in terms of epidemics or outbreaks. they are hungry, tired children that need our comfort and need us to embrace them as a great

country of the united states that we are. >> it is about compassion. last night, glenn beck was on fox news. i must say, i find myself agreeing with him. watch this. >> i really fear we are on the edge of losing our country. through this division if we don't find ways to say, look, we all love the children. we all feel the same way. these are children in need. now they are here, so what do we do? while washington is arguing, i think we have a personal responsibility for mercy. and to be there to help them be the good samaritan, to be the americans that we are. >> glenn beck saying that we have a responsibility to show mercy. i don't agree with glenn beck often, if at all.

how is this missed by elected officials and the leadership in the republican party? >> a lot of it is the distance. not being on the border. when you were down here seeing people coming over it touches you. it's easy to say mean things when you are far away. it's politics. you have a party line you will stick to. politicals will use this to pump it up. >> thank you very much for your time tonight. >> thanks, rev. >> coming up, president obama blasts the gop priorities more focused on lawsuits than jobs. and exclusive video you have to see to believe. miami police kill four including their own informant in a botched

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and employees are prohibited from doing so during working hours. but maybe this is just simple breakdown in communication. governor scott deserves a chance to explain himself. >> do you really think all of the deputies were off duty? >> i'm very proud that last week police chiefs endorsed me. i'm proud that the sheriffs have endorsed me. i'm proud of the support from the law enforcement. we invite them to our campaign events. i appreciate the ones who came. >> i'm sure you're proud, governor. how about answering the question? >> did you think it was a problem to have on duty law enforcement there? >> i'm appreciative of both their support and those that come to my events. >> is this ground hog day 2 or

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miami dade is florida's largest county. now there are questions being raised about the police. over a botched sting operation that left four men dead including an informant working for them. the incident was caught on police cameras and revealed an explosive investigation by the nbc six investigating team at our miami station. miami dade police officers wanted to lure three accused home invaders to a vacant house using a former felon as an informant. the plan was for the informant rocindo betancourt to bring the ring leader to the house in an suv and meet up with the other two men to exchange money and drugs. all four men were wiarmed.

reporter tony pipatone explained what happened next. >> reporter: but there is a problem. betancourt, the informant, was supposed to drive them to the trap and stay in the car. gonzales has other ideas, a snag betancourt relays. >> you heard everything, right? he wants me to go with him. >> i have three kids. >> reporter: later, betancourt makes what's likely his last call to his wife. >> bye, i lo you. >> reporter: as officers listen in, betancourt utters the code phrase prosecutors say was supposed to signal a problem. >> after this, i'm heading to disneyworld. >> the informant utters the code phrase about disneyworld to signal to cops that something is wrong. the police don't stop the operation. instead, the four men head on foot together at the front of the house. sensing something is wrong are, two of the men run off.

>> i've got two subjects running west. running west into the trees. >> reporter: 30 seconds later -- and you are about to see something quite violent. the third home invader darts in front of the house holding a gun and is shot down by a sergeant. his gun later found where he fell. that left only betancourt, the informant at the corner with 70 seconds to live. >> i've got one guy with his hands up. >> reporter: he surrenders, getting onto the ground as instructed by officers. but the only cop there to give a statement swears betancourt was silent, not identifying the disneyworld code phrase to identify himself to police. sergeant malgore told him to roll on his back. he said the surrendering informant made a quick move to a gun in his waistband. cops fired 23 shots. >> so the informant surrendered.

his hands clearly in the air, and on the ground. police say they saw him reach for a gun. they opened fire, shooting him 23 times. away from the house, police shoot two more men. you can see one of them lying there with his arms extended over his head. he was armed. the other man throws his gun away and curls up under a tree. >> reporter: the four officers surround tun armed man. when they say he moved for his waistband, unleashed 52 rounds. >> shots fired, shotses fired. >> they fired 52 rounds. officers claim their lives were in danger because they saw the men reach for their guns in their waistbands. a police union official believe it is the officers are heroes and says, "savages k were stopp" with no evidence to contradict

the officers' stories there are no criminal charges. but this exclusive video has questions being asked about the nearly 600 police shootings in florida. over 15 years that have never seen a single criminal charged. joining me now is tony pipatone from nbc 6, the reporter who broke the story. congratulations on the amazing investigative piece. >> thank you very much. >> you, your executive producer robby peel and the nbc 6 investigative team have done incredible work here. what prompted this investigation? >> one of the things in florida, the statisticses you mentioned, all the shootings and a police officers has never been charged with a shooting with homicide or manslaughter since way back in 1989 really when the laws changed because of a court

decision to make it difficult to do so. it took two years for the police to finish them, turn it over to the state association. another year there. when the state attorney said we can't charge we decided to ask why. we wanted to put together what happened over three years ago from our viewers. >> prosecutors say they don't buy the officers' account of what happened. let me play this. watch. >> i just don't believe that he never opened his mouth. >> you heard the officer say he never said a word. >> that's what the statement says. >> you don't believe it. >> i don't believe it. >> the magic words are the suspect did something. as a result of what the suspect did i was in fear for my life. >> every single officer said

they saw the suspect reach for a gun. is there any way to verify that, tony? >> of the four shootings one was found justifiable. the man shot at the head of the driveway had a gun. prosecutors said that was justifiable. they said they cannot say that about the other three shootings. there is no evidence to contradict what the officers say what happened. the other people who were civilians were the suspects and the informant who are dead. without evidence to contradict what the police say they said they can't bring a case to a jury. they said they believe a judge would throw it out at the end of the state's case. not any evidence to contradict what the officers will say. >> i want to show the audience the research your team did on police shootings in florida. there have been 574 police shootings in the state since

1999. but zero criminal charges have been filed against any police officer involved in a shooting since 1989. where is this going? will there be an investigation? this seems -- and i'm not anti-police. i'm certain you aren't. it seems unreal that with almost 600 shootings none of them did anything wrong? no charges. >> the gentleman you saw, don horn, prosecuted a police officer in 1989, got a conviction and the florida supreme court said you can't introduce into evidence that the officer violated policy. if the officer claimed self-defense charge him as if he's anybody else on the street claiming self-defense. you can't say, well, i shot somebody in the back or use it as evidence he committed a crime. since 1989 don horn, our state

attorney, catherine fernandez rondell say it is difficult to bring a case against police officers. we are looking at the cases very closely and letting the public see. of course there is the united states government as well that oversees all of this. if they take an interest in a case in florida perhaps there could be a different outcome. >> clearly this one appears to be very questionable when you look at the videotape with guys that have surrendered. we'll keep following this. great reporting. thank you so much for your time tonight. >> thank you. still ahead, the derek jeter video everybody's talking about. why it's better than sports. stay with us. [ kinda ] we are the saunders. and we're new to the pacific northwest. the rain, the mud -- babam! it's there. the outside comes in. it's kinda nasty so you start the towel-mop shuffle.

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is john are boehner more interest ared in suing the president or creating jobs. with the first house hearing on his lawsuit tomorrow, everybody else is an after thought. the house voted on a bill that only temporarily funds federal highway programs. the vote comes just weeks before the highway trust fund runs dry putting hundreds of thousands of jobs at risk. we need congress to focus on real solutions to strengthen the economy. but what are they actually doing? >> instead their big idea has

been to sue me. that's what they're spending time on. a political stunt that wasteses america's time and taxpayer dollars. keep in mind it's your money they are spending on these ridiculous pursuits instead of getting some work done. >> a new poll found 63% of americans think congress should prioritize jobs other the lawsuit. how does speaker boehner explain himself? here he was today. we'll come back to him. but jobs are republicans' top priority, he says. then why is the lawsuit front and center? i'm not buying it. neither are the american people. joining me now, a congressman emmanuel cleveland, democrat of missouri and michelle coddle.

thank you for being here. >> thanks, rev. >> good to be here. >> congressman, why do republicans insist on focusing on the lawsuit. we are in desperate need of a transportation bill allowing the pathological partisanship to affect us. we are in desperate need of it. it seem it is favorite form of congressional -- is the president. everything come second to that. the number one is to ride the president. in the meantime, 25% of our bridges are in disrepair. yet we are suing the president which will not fix anything in this country. >> president obama said today he supports the plan to temporarily fund the highway trust. but republicans shouldn't be

proud of it. >> at least congress should be keeping people on the job who are there now. congress shouldn't pat itself on the back for averting disaster for a few months. kicking the can down the road for a few months. careen aring from crisis to crisis when it comes to something as basic as our infrastructure. >> you know, right now we are set to hit the debt ceiling in march. if this highway plan gets passed, we'll run out of highway funds in may. do the republicans like governing by crisis? >> i think that's all they can achieve at this point. they are hoping for gains in the house, maybe even take back the senate. then they feel they can put their agenda in place more

easily. >> congressman, it's not just the american people who want congress to focus more on jobs. the new poll finds 58% of americans say the lawsuit won't benefit people like them. 51% view the lawsuit as a political stunt. i mean, boehner is getting all kinds of criticism for this suit. is he going to have to abandon it sooner or later, congressman? >> i think he already knows. i'm sure that there are brilliant republican attorneys who have told him that the lawsuit is a complete are waste of time, that it's not going anywhere. in fact, he may not and congressmen may not have standing to file a lawsuit which is what many of us are hearing. i think it is perhaps important to him to try to bend over a little toward the tea party element in his party. i think john boehner is a decent

guy that will make the trains run on time. i think he's always looking over his shoulder at a group of 70 or 75 members who are irrationally interested in dismantling the entire government. they don't see anything about the failure to do a highway bill. they want to dismantle the government. >> michelle, that's the point. i travel a lot. everywhere i travel people are hurting. this is real. people cannot make ends meet. they are playing games here because they want to try to play politics with the tea party. people are suffering. people need jobs. and we are going over bridges in disrepair. this is real. >> it is real. it's one of the reasons why they at least have to have a temporary measure. when push comes sho you're talking about jobs disappearing in republican districts like democratic districts. what they are doing is what they often do, trying to avoid disaster now so they don't get are blamed for that find of

suffering. >> paul ryan was asked about the lawsuit. he said something interesting. i don't know if he's on board. listen to this. >> under our constitution of self-government, the court that really counts is the court of public opinion. we have to remember at the end of the day the court of public opinion where are the american people hand down their verdict on election day is the final ash tor. >> he was speaking generally. but in this speech it's clearly weighed in on where public opinion is. public opinion is certainly not on the side of what they are doing with the lawsuit. >> every poll suggests that the public is not interested in these tricks and flips that are being done. we are in desperate need of

jobs. are recovery has been good but the primary benefit, the corporation so far. what we've got to have is something that touches all of the people. there is no such thing as a republican or democratic highway. and the public understands that. if we don't do anything soon, i think the public will become even more knowledgeable about who is preventing the country from moving forward. the largest number of permanent jobs can be created more than anything else congress can do by pazing a five or six-year highway bill. >> congressman, you have been in congress a while. michelle you have been covering washington. isn't it unusual to see it become partisan over the highway bill? usually republicans and democrats come together on something this basic. >> it shows you how divided we are and how partisanship plays into everything. the highway bill used to sail through congress because everybody knew it would create

jobs and deal with dramatic flaws in the highway system. but now with the irrational hatred of government, nothing moves smoothly. >> got to go. thank you, michelle. thank you congressman cleaver. thank you both for your time tonight. coming up, attorney general eric holder speaks passionately on the civil riegs act. later a tip of the hat to the yankees' captain derek jeter. stay with us.

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>> i have a chance to get to know and meet derek jeter over the years, most recently in april when the yankees honored the late nelson mandela with a plaque in monument park on jackie robinson day. i tip my cap to you, captain. congratulations on a hall of oh fame career off and on the field. thanks for watching. i'm al sharpton. "hardball" starts right now. more bread, less circus. let's play "hardball." good evening. i'm chris matthews in washington. let me start tonight with this. sometimes, not often, i get the impression that the president actually listens to "hardball." call it vanity, but that's what i heard today in this call to get the united states government