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amelia earhart's dream. thank you very much for joining us tonight, amelia. >> thanks for having me on. >> chris hayes is up next. more bread, less circus. let's play "hardball." good evening. i'm chris matthews in washington. let me start tonight with this. sometimes, not often, i get the impression that the president actually listens to "hardball." call it vanity, but that's what i heard today in this call to get the united states government busy rebuilding this country. there he was just outside of washington, down in virginia, calling for the big time push to fix this country's highways, bridges and railways. suddenly i sense the builders are back, the people who believe in government action, who believe the american people, not just american business, but the people themselves have jobs to do and job one is getting this
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country in shape to rival the fast competing world out there. this isn't about president obama. it's about what the country needs to do to get its act together, to challenge the do nothing stick in the mud debbie downer congress to get off its butt and do something for the country except a big fat no it shuffles into the talking points. i want to replace the smell of decay in this country with the smell of construction, dirt being moved, highways being laid, road crews and a guy holding a flag because somebody in plain sight is doing something to get this country working, ready to move again. today president obama was the guy walking out of the job shack with the blueprints saysing it's time to get going. let's see how the opposition goeses with this baby. michael steele is chairman of the rnc and ed rendell was president of pennsylvania. i'm not talking about you. as rahm emanuel says you never want a serious crisis to go to
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waste. today, funding for the national highway system was on life support, set to die in the heart of summer driving season. late this afternoon however the house passed a short-term patch, if you will, basically a band aid which puts off the crisis for a few months. earlier this year president obama announced a plan to revitalize the country's road system and the right wing rejected or, worse yet, ignored. hours before congress was set to kick the can down the road today president obama slammed enemieses on the right for running a legislative circus. here's the p president. >> in response, their plan so far has not been to join me and say, all right, mr. president, you're right. we theed to rebuild roads. we need to spruce up the airports. instead the big idea has been to sue me. that's what they are spending time on.
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a little bitle call stunt that wastes america's time and taxpayer dollars. it's your money they will be spending on these ridiculous pursuitses instead of getting work done. >> the circus he's talking about. he outlined in february a $300 billion package to over haul the transportation system over four years. a plan that transportation secretary anthony fox said would create millions of jobs. that's not bad. a plan to target the country are's crumbling highways, bridges, tunnels and rail systems. republicans dismissed the plan as a blank check. here is more from the president. >> so far, house republicans refused to act on this idea. they haven't presented their own idea and i think that's wrong. we shouldn't be protecting tax loopholes for companies that shifts massive profits overseas. we should be creating jobs, rebuilding roads and bridges that help every business in the united states.
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that's a question of priorities. >> governor rendell, the old roman expression about give them bread and circuses, we have had a lot of circuses in this country. there is talk of impeachment from the nutty right. building roads, fixing the country, fixing 95, fixing 80, 70, the highway this is country is connected by seems to be pri tif when it comes to government doing something good to get us moving again. >> you're right, chris. it used to be the truly bipartisan idea. in fact, it was in the republican playbook to spend money on infrastructure. jim inhoff is probably as conservative a senator as we've got. he said when i testified before the senate public works committee infrastructure spending is the second most important thing the government can do beyond military spending. everyone acknowledges that we have to do something. no one wants to pay for it.
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there can't be gain without pain. that's what the congress is not grasping. we've got to pay for it. the president suggests paying for it by eliminating some of the tax loopholes. let me get you a statistic, chris. in 1980, we spent $600 billion of our tax money was not collected because it was tax expenditures, a fancy name for loopholes. this year the figure has grown to $1.4 trillion. >> who is protecting that? >> lobbyists. >> that's what i think. >> the gucci gulf. >> i think this is nonpartisan. governments are for bigger stuff. i'm for that, too. when i saw road crews out there, i said election time is coming. people want roads fixed, jobs, over time. golden time. the construction unions you would think would be pounding down the door for jobs. why are republicans saying
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highways aren't what we do. >> what you do have from heritage and club for growth is this push to have this bill devolve back to the states to see how much they want to spend on their state. there is a disparity of sorts. you know, what they need in mississippi isn't necessarily what they need in michigan and so forth. that's the underlying push by conservatives in the house to say, we are not against building the roads. we are all for it. >> what are they going to do with the money? what's mississippi going to do? it's so enlightened besides building highways? >> you are assume the leadership of the state knows the roads they need fixed. they put it in the proposal for the money in the first place. >> so you get the roads fixed free? is that what's going on? >> understand that's the underlying thinking here.
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again, this is something that republicans often led on. this was something -- >> absolutely. >> creating the interstate highway system is something we did. >> eisenhower. >> it's something we have always bought into. >> let me get back to reality. every time you get on the highway in the east coast. >> reality. >> in this region of the country. you're on 95. everybody travels it. it's the way to new york, baltimore, philadelphia, everywhere, delaware. every time to ocean city or anything, you are on 95 at least are from here. up to massachusetts, 95. working class people, everybody is there. everybody needs the highway. this is not just for a few people. 80. if we didn't are have 80 which eisenhower built, credit to the republicans. 80 across the country, 70 below that. we would be taking state roads through indiana to get across the country. why doesn't your party praise
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eisenhower and putting a man on the moon? what's wrong with the government doing things? why is it a clearinghouse for checks? >> the mind set changed. it's not about the government doing things and how the government will pay for what you want done. when you're dealing with deficits and dealing with debt and with the crises we have had financially, i think it is -- >> where does your money come from? >> chris -- >> where does it come from? >> we can relitigate the battle. >> where does the money come from magically? >> from taxpayers. >> i see. the money comes from somewhere when you want a war. >> some argue about raising the gas tax. others talk about -- >> don't kid me about raising taxes. >> chris. you're talking about a congress that was not in place when w. was in the white house. >> i know it's your crazy aunt
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in the attic now. >> i'm not denying him. >> they don't know the guy. never heard of iraq. anyway, my question is somewhat rhetorical. governor, have you noticed when w. decided we have to go into a new country to, of course, liberate them and it would only take a week and a half. every time there was never, oh, we have to have set asides, pay first, find a new funding mechanism. no, blow the bugle and the money comes. >> what happened in 2010? those members were replaced by the members who are drawing the line. >> now the hard right the rejecting the pint-sized republican plan designed to put off disaster, the patchwork on the highway. the tea party group heritage action has come out against the house in short term highway funding. it said it resorted to budget gimmicks and budget transfers. meanwhile, the right-leaning club for growth took it a step further saying the bill useses budget gimmicks and fee increases the to bail out a
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wasteful and inefficient program that doesn't exist. going back to the government is what's wrong with a highway tax that's always been pay a couple of cents for gas. it was two, now 18. you're paying $4 for regular anyway in places. as a percent saj it's not big. what's wrong with that going to the highways? presumably 18 cents is railroad going to that. -- already going to that. >> it's expensive. >> yes, but the question is how do you get money into the system without raising taxeses? there is not a desire now in this house especially. >> your reaction to how it will play out? i assume hillary clinton will be a bread and butter democrat. that's what my hope is. i can't write her script. i have been pushing the president in this direction. as head of the infrastructure push.
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it took him a while to get into it. we have to keep him up there. be a builder. be robert moses. do something. >> absolutely. the chamber of commerce and the aflcio that could barely agree today is tuesday agreed to raise the gas tax. it was last increased 21 years ago. does anybody think they could have gone 21 yeas without a raise in income or supplements? you couldn't do it. the gas tax is now worth 11 centses in 1993 dollars. it's going down, down, down. it's a user fee. the best way to pay for transportation. having said that, chris, you, michael and i could in the next 24 hours find 300 billion dollarses in tax expenditures that are not necessary. mitt romney advocated getting rid of some tax expenditures. the mortgage deduction on second
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homes. >> carrying interest. the equity market. >> the three of us could do it in 24 hours and the nation would not be at all hurt by the elimination of the loopholes. >> big government when it comes to highways is something we all believe in. >> we want big government, absolutely. >> the leader of the aflcio is great. they should be raising hell with congress instead of worrying about knocking off a knuckle head governor somewhere. i'm sorry, ed schultz. sometimes priorities are creating jobs, not just throwing people out of them. thank you. coming up, mind the gap. new polls show the democrats doing surprisingly well in must-win states. they are going to need to hold onto the senate if they can. once again it's women, the gender gap making the difference. it's women to the rescue. wait until you see the numbers. if you are a woman you will be so proud you are having such influence.
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and i have always said populism is when a losing candidate goes to bump his numbers at the 11th hour from 42 to 46% before he loses. when both rand paul and elizabeth warren who is pretty smart, are singing the same populist tune you know something is in the air in america nowment. plus, hey, governor, just answer the question. rick scott of florida is unintentionally hilarious trying to avoid an embarrassing question -- four times. he can't answer it. he won't. he pretends it's not been asked. let me finish with a peaceful statement from senator schumer on why israel is doing the right thing with the horrible killings of young people in the middle east and his neighbors aren't. this is "hardball," the place for politics.
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the answer seems to be, no, not true. conservative is red in the graph. s as people get older movinging left to right on the chart they are more likely to lean to the right, but the data shows there is little evidence that older teens are more likely to be conservative than people in their 20s. we're getting fine in the arguments. we'll be right back.
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welcome back to "hardball." it's no secret the democrats face an uphill battle in the senate this year. republicans only need six seats to take the chamber and the democrat thes are largely playing defense with most of the vul are neshl seats from their side. in other words their incumbents are in trouble. they got good news in the late e nbc news maris polls in colorado and michigan. both usually have a democratic advantage but lately the president's approval rating has been dismal. in michigan, democrat gary
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peters leads republican terri lynn land by six points. in colorado, senator mark udahl who seemed to be in trouble leads cory gardner by seven. one of the main reasons is the overwhelming majority the democrats enjoy among women voters. the numbers are something. in colorado, udahl leads women by 12. in michigan, peters leads by 13 and he's running against a woman. it's the same in other states. mark pryor leads tom cotton among women by 20 points. in all three states the men's vote is about even. in other words, all the advantage of a gender split goes to the democrat. women go one way where as men are 50/50 in these races. but in kentucky, an exception here. although the democrat leads mitch mcconnell by seven points with women, mcconnell's advantage is more pronounced. for whatevers nasty or positive reason they like mcconnell more
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than women like allison grimes. women often make up a larger percentage of the people who vote. think about that. can the gender gap save the senate for the democrats? larry sabateau from the center for politics. and stephanie shriak is president of emily's list. larry, i want your take on how it looks. >> i'm not ready to go there yechlt i have seen analyseses even today giving republicans enormous odds to take the senate. i don't see it that way. it's on the edge of the fence post. if republicans win the senate it will be by a seat or two. if democrats hold it, it will be either 51-49 or 50-50. >> yeah. i have been thinking a good night for the democrat is to lose five seats and get the
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senate. women. what bugs women even in a downer period of time when no one is particularly cheerful? why would women still vote against the republican challengers, against incumbents? >> like you said, women will decide the election as they have been deciding the last few. they are looking for candidates that will give women and families a fair shot. it's about economic opportunity. they are feeling the pain of equal pay or lack of equal pay. access to health care is a big issue. this is bread and butter. they are trying to make ends meet. when you see republicans stand against equal pay, against the minimum wage, this is energizing women across the country. that's what you are seeing in the numbers. >> one challenge democrats have is general dissatisfaction. the debbie downer mood which is
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not just one gender. last month's nbc news wall street journal poll, only a quarter of americans said the country was headed in the right direction. 63% said things were off on the wrong track. let's go to larry. if you put together the nor mann mall tendency of the sixth presidential year being dangerous for the incumbents in his party because the accumulated anger is, okay, i will screw this guy running as a democrat. then you take the problem. the president is at 40%. not much higher anywhere else. lower in places. then you take the general mood thing. comes up in the polling on right direction, wrong direction. only a quarter of the country is saying they're happy. what's that do to your thinking? >> put those things together and what do you come up with for 2014? it will probably be a typical sixth year election for the democrats. all that tells you is republicans are likely to gain seats in both the house and the senate.
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now the house, the election is already over with. everybody knows it. it's a question of whether republicans gain five seats, ten seatses or whatever. it won't make much different. in the senate, the worst the republicans can do is probably plus four. depends on where the numberses go, the ones you just cited between now, july and november will determine whether republicans get the sixth or six plus they need to get control of the senate. >> what do you think about the weird factor that mitch mcconnell could lose to allison grimes. >> very possibly. >> it is so weird. how much do you think there is a mood if you could give me a bipartisan statement. we have had enough of the guys. the thing that knocked off cantor. it could knock off mitch mcconnell. these guys have been around too long. they are never going to change. >> that's definitely the case for mitch mcconnell. he's one of the most unpopular senators. >> we want to like him less?
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listen to this. here's mitch mcconnell today. comments made last week are coming under attack. he was asked at a campaign stop on thursday what are the most important issues facing women in kentucky. he said women are concerned about the same thing men are. fair enough. he blasted efforts to claim republicans are hostile to women. let's listen. >> we've come a long way in pay equity, and there are a ton of women ceos now running major
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this is another sign of how completely out of touch he is. he's the leader of the republican party in the senate. it's about candidates. there is such a difference between michigan mcconnell and allison grimes. this comes down to who is on the ballot. i want to say our democratic candidates across the board are in good positions, particularly with women voters who will decide the election because of the vision for the future. that's what this election will be about. >> you know, no matter how traditionally she is completely free. thank you. great having your expertise. don't get any more sun.
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you have too much sun, i think. anyway, thanks for coming on. stephanie, thank you. up next, he's ducking, diving and dodging when it comes to topics he isn't comfortable with. how governor rick scott of florida -- not my favorite governor -- has made avoiding a question a show in itself. this is "hardball," the place for politics.
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the national governor's association held its annual summer meeting in nashville over the weekend. it came to an abrupt end during team building when they let chris christie do a trust fall. [ applause ] >> welcome back to "hardball." time now for the side show. the boys of comedy central are back from their breaks and they have a lot to say. first jon stewart returned with, i think, questionable humor about the tragedy at the border. watch this.
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>> you have to blame obama's immigration policier for this one. you don't want migrant children? you don't put up these bill boards. yeah sh that's right. or border length ball pit. not a smart move. >> i don't know. from immigration to supreme court. steve colbert took on the hobby lobby decision by spotlighting the religious roots of popular corporations. >> o it's probably not a big deal but they ruled that corporations have religious beliefs. [ laughter ] >> it makes sense. hobby lobby obviously christian. panda express is jewish at christmas time. and papa johns, of course, is athiest because their pizza makes you doubt there is a god. >> next, florida governor rick scott has been facing heat for his use of on duty polis as props. he accepted the endorsement of the police chief association but
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made it clear he won't talk about the matter. watch as he dodges the question not once but four times in a row. >> did you really think all of those deputies were off duty? >> i'm very proud that last week police chiefs endorsed me. i'm very proud that 40 sheriffs have endorsed me. i'm proud of the support from the law enforcement. we are at a 43-year low in the crime rate. we invite them to our campaign events. i'm appreciative of the ones that came. >> did you think it was a problem to have on duty law enforcement there? >> i'm appreciative of both their support and those that come to my events. >> you didn't answer the question. should there be discipline? >> i'm appreciative of everybody who comes to my events. >> do you think it's okay for them to be there on duty? >>i'm very appreciative of the police chiefs endorsement last week, the association. >> wow, four times. governor, just answer the question. up next, populism used to mean capital d democratic. not anymore. how both parties are competing
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west virginia stumping for democratic senate candidate natalie tenant, the latest in the series of her high profile campaign stops designed to appeal to working class voters. she's out there. >> if west virginia with decides to send a senator to washington who's going to be there to fight for wall street. for those who have already made it. or what it will mean for west virginia to have a person who will get up every morning and go to work to absolutely work her heart out for the families of west virginia. i believe in natalie tennant. she will be your next senator. make it happen. [ applause ] >> senator warren may not be the candidate of choice in west virginia but her appearance
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means her trademark message of economic populism has broad enough appeal to work in a deep red state like west virginia even though she hails from the liberal state -- or commonwealth of massachusetts. while senator warren built her reputation as a champion of the people, over the powerful. there are similar strains of populism in the republican party as well. listen to this. perhaps no republican has better articulated the populist message than libertarian-leaning senator rand paul. here he is speaking out against wall street at the new hampshire freedom summit this april. >> rich companies don't need your money. it is an insult to those among us that we say we don't have enough money for other programs but we've got enough money for our rich friends. if you want to be consistent, if you want to grow the movement, we cannot be the party of fat cats, rich people, and wall street. >> i don't know what chris christie thought of that line. the esteem both senator warren
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and senator paul have within their parties is another sign our economy may be moving in a populist direction with animus, hostility to wall street shaping up to be big motivators for voters in november. they don't like things in d.c.er oh new york. that could be a factor in 2016. an nbc news/wall street journal poll found a bipartisan majority of americans believe the economic and political systems in the country are stacked against people like me. the economic and political systems are stacked against people like me. that's a powerful number. 55% of democrats and just about the same number of republicans, 54% agreed with that statement. those are the highest numbers we have seen in that poll since the economic downturn of 1992. when it comes to presidential primaries in recent memory we haven't seen populist candidates win their parties' tom nations. howard dean, john edwards lost their luster in 2004-2008. mike huckabee and rick santorum lost to their establishment rivals in 2008 and 2012. joining me now to talk about this is robert costa of the
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washington post and susan page of usa today. thank you for joining me. i want to get this factually. when you hear rand paul talk you could take the lines we just showed you and give them to senator warren. it's about power, it's about the government and seemed to be by most people feeding in a welfare state way, feeding the rich more than helping the middle. your thoughtses? >> both politicians are trying to capture a populist moment. you see it throughout the democratic party and the republican party. look at the house gop. they are fighting this import, export bank. that's bubbling up the republican ranks. >> why doesn't the president --
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i will get back to him. why doesn't president obama say if you're populist take out the loopholes? like tear down this wall. you're a populist, you're for the little people. why do you have carried are interest. why does the guy in equities make a fortune and not pay taxes on it? this is an unreasonable question? >> this is something you feel bubbling up through the entire democratic party. this is something dividing the republican party, too. there is a lot of energy behind the populist message from rand paul. there ises a lot of push-back from the traditional main stream republicans who think something like the xm bank ought to be -- >> what about the sense that the rich are getting a good deal? could romney run as a populist? no. could chris christie? these are big shot northeastern people. >> i don't think they could. that's not where their party is. they could probably run as a democrat because democrats generally feel the middle class and the little guy is getting screwed. all republicans do not feel that way.
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>> let me ask you, robert. you're covering the campaign grows. this is tied up with the anti-war movement. it's connected. this is populist middle america, the plains states, the middle west. if this is growing mood with the tax breaks and all the advantages they generally and having the money, how does jeb bush win who inherited his position in life? how about mitt romney who inherited his position in life? how does chris christie who represented new jersey, right near new york. how do they have the prayer if the party turns populist? >> i'm not sure, chris. i think if populism continues to grow we'll see candidates like jeb bush struggle in republican primaries and maybe hillary clinton struggle in democratic primaries. i was in west virginia yesterday. this populism, this ability of elizabeth warren to connect with working class voters of west virginia was real. there were 400 people in the room. >> tell me.
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what do you think they were reacting to? were they saying -- what did you hear? >> it was the message. it wasn't her charisma. elizabeth warren could have a stilted delivery. she's an imperfect speaker. it was the message. she was talking about the millionaires, billionaires, getting rid of loopholes. there is a lot of nodding heads in the room. these are people out of work, struggling. she may not be their most popular politician, but she connects. >> my dad was a middle of the road republican. one thing he had against the party was big shot corporations and deals whether it's price fixing by g.e., remember that scandal? he thought they bestrayed capitalism. there shouldn't be a special deal for the rich. it should be true free enterprise. >> look at these issues with the bailout of wall street and the bailout of the banks and the feeling that big corporations got bailed out after the great recession.
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a lot are still struggling with things like mortgages being under water. i think that's the element that makes this a powerful issue at the metrodome. >> -- moment. >> this is a number i think everybody will remember. the economic and political systems of the country are stacked against people like me. robert, stacked against people like me. the economic and political systems -- in other words the u.s. congress, the presidency, the political parties, the whole shebang that goes together is hurting me because on purpose it's helping the better off. both republicans and democrats would say precisely the same percentage, 54, 55 which is the same, think that's true. >> there is a problem of inaction on capitol hill. you saw paul ryan in west virginia the same day as warren. ryan had a poverty agenda. people looking at the republican party are wondering where is the legislation. they are looking at the democratic party. they had the white house, the
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senate. where is the legislation? where is the deals to help the working class? there is a lot of frustration out there. when you're on the trail, you feel it. >> why not the robotses in the republican caucus on capitol hill get the message? they are saying no to any effort to reform the tax system. >> part of the reason i think republicans aren't moving legislation through they want to play it safe to run on health care. >> the reason nothing gets done on capitol hill, even if it's the smart move, pass the ball around. freeze it. >> don't do anything to give credit to president obama. >> isn't that a political purpose in life? make sure the other guy doesn't get credit. >> one thing with a compromise, you get something but the other guy does, too. >> these guys are sweet hearts, thank you, susan page and robert costa, you're getting better and better at this. a great idea whose time has come again. this organization was a part of
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are more divided ideologically than at any time since the end of world war i. in the 20th century the house has generally moved left or right in unison. now the houses are moving in opposite directions. it's true. as many suspected the house of representatives has moved farther to the right than the senates has gone to the left. it's not symmetric. we'll be right back.
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>> great honor and responsibility. look into the camera, tell somebody in college, boy, girl, rich, poor, whatever ethnic group, why they should consider the peace corps going overseas for two years. >> i tell you why you should join the peace corps, it will change your life, open your eyes to a world of incredible beauty and diversity. you'll make a difference in a way that's impossible to imagine now. you'll have adventures that will exceed your wildest dreams. it will set you on a career path that may be difficult to predict now and probably very different from what you're thinking about at this point in your life. it will change your life completely. peace corps volunteers are at the real forefront of development. they are fighting climate changes they are helping girls complete school. they're helping their communities grow crops. they're making a difference in the lives of girls and women. they are reducing incidents up to 90%. they're making a huge difference. as you heard from president kennedy, it is not easy, it's life changing, it's challenging and will open your eyes to a
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world that is just absolutely spectacular and -- >> okay. now, the scary part. what do you tell the parents? 22-year-old kid, boy or girl, especially a girl, says i'm going to some stan over in central asia, or some place in africa that's had problems. how do you assure this is a pretty reasonable risk to take for your country and yourself? >> okay. great question. there are two reasons. basically the first is it will give you a real leg up in the global job market. tough these days to find a job, and peace corps will definitely help you to get a job. >> when you get back. >> when you get back because it gives you the kinds of skills and experience that employers are looking for in this global market. in addition, we have just spent the last four years improving the quality of our support for volunteers. they've never been safer or healthier than they are now, and we have spent a lot of time improving our training for volunteers to help them reduce the risks. we have also done a lot to support our staff so they can better support our volunteers. >> now you can pick your
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country. >> now you can pick your country. >> i sort of did. i wanted to go to swaziland. first time i applied, they sent me to afghanistan. i said, you missed a huge part of the globe there. i said, try again. they tried again and said swaziland. said, i'm in. >> that's great. >> thank you for coming in. good luck. i hope you bring it back alive like it was with sergeant shriver, greatest leader of the peace corps. i'll back this up. there are risks. >> there are risks. >> there are risks. traffic accidents, things like that, especially traffic accidents. but it is one amazing adventure. >> absolutely. >> carrie hessler-radelet, thank you. congratulations, again. we'll be right back. >> thank you.
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comcast business. built for business. let me finish tonight with the powerful case senator chuck schumer of new york delivered in today's "new york post." i feel like starting this with, now hear this, because it's been so long that it's not been heard, because it's been so long since we've all needed to hear it. it's this little precious fact. it's about how israel and its palestinian neighbors are dealing with the tragedy of the four young people kidnapped and killed. the innocent three israelis, and the innocent palestinian boy. israel went out and found the killers of the palestinian boy. they arrested them. they charged them. they clearly mean business in punishing the guilty. now, what about the other side? what about the palestinians? what have they done to render justice? well here's senator schumer. "how did hamas and too many diverse parts of the mainstream
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palestinian community respond to the kidnap and murder of three young israelis? they cheered. the official hamas spokesman called the kidnappers heroes." it gets worse. "the mother of one of the suspected palestinian kidnappers, if he, my son, truly tid it, i'll be proud of him till my final day." there have been terrible statements made by one israeli politician who called for the mothers of the so-called palestinian martyrs to be killed. the government of israel, itself, has been as effective in this matter, went out and caught the people suspected. this has hardly been the case on the palestinian side. hardly. i have thought for a while about when we will have true peace between israel and its neighbors. it's when the arabs are ready to punish an arab for killing a jew. that's the day when the people of israel will be ready to trust their neighbors, the day they show the most primitive respect for the jewish people. even more to their right to life. senator schumer, you said it
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right. these killings and how they're being handled tells us all we need to know about what is right about the middle east and what is wrong. in this case, they're right. even in this horror, it's tilting toward the government in jerusalem. bleachers collapse. a plane crash lands at a baseball field. >> desperation set in at that point. >> an off-road vehicle veers off track. >> something had gone seriously
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