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together. hard work. and now they're gone. >> nearly 300 families are mourning the victim of malaysia airlines flight 17, which was shot out of the sky over ukraine. and we've learned there was one american among those killed. we'll get you up to date on the major developments unfolding in the investigation and reaction from around the world. also, the situation in gaza, where just seconds ago air strikes lit up the night sky. it comes as israeli ground forces push deeper into gaza amid new calls from hard liners to crush hamas completely. but first, as all sides continue to deny firing the soviet-made surface-to-air missile that brought down malaysia airlines flight 17, president obama is issuing a forceful indictment of russia's role in the conflict. >> we know these separatists have received a steady flow of support from russia. this includes arms and training. it includes heavy weapons, and
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it includes anti-aircraft weapons. no one can deny the truth that's revealed in the awful images we all have seen. the eyes of the world are on eastern ukraine, and we are going to make sure that the truth is out. >> the president also announced today that there was at least one american on board that plane. quinn lucas schansman, a dual dutch and american citizen. this is a picture of the victim from his facebook page. in addition to that, there's at least one victim who was studying at indiana university in the u.s. meanwhile, at a united nations emergency session today, the u.n. security council called for a full, thorough, and independent international investigation as u.s. ambassador to the u.n. samantha power delivered a forceful indictment against russia, and the russian-backed separatists believed to have fired the missile that brought down that plane. >> this appalling attack occurred in the context of a crisis that has been fueled by russian support for separatists through arms, weapons, and training, and by the russian
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failure to follow through on its commitments and by its failure to adhere to the fundamental principles of the u.n. charter. this war can be ended. russia can end this war. russia must end this war. >> nbc's jim maceda joins us from moscow. jim, what are the reactions? >> reporter: hi, joy. well, if you've survived putin-ism this long as an official, i guess you could say you know how to take one for the gipper. putin reacted angrily to the latest wave of u.s. sanctions. it was during a meeting, and all this was taped of course, during a meeting with his prime minister. in every single cutaway, he was aping the facial expression of his boss. it didn't matter if it was anger or joy or nostalgia. he had it all exactly at the same moment that putin did. pretty much like that. there's an old boy's club
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mentality inside the kremlin that if you haven't been sanctioned by now, you don't deserve your position. the public reaction generally speaking has been nonchalant and defiant on the part of kremlin officials and officials in general. privately, it's impossible to know just how worried and pressured they're actually feeling because if they revealed that, it would be political suicide. generally speaking, no one seems to be concerned quite yet with the three waves of u.s. sanctions, joy. but that would certainly change if europe, with all of the hundreds of billions of dollars in deals that it does with russia, if europe truly cracked down, that would be a game changer. >> that said, jim, are russian officials continuing to distance themselves from the rebels despite reports that russian military have been training and even arming them ahead of the shoot down of the plane? >> reporter: yes, it's an interesting schizophrenia, i
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guess. putin himself is probably the best example of that. he goes out of his way time and again to explain how little leverage and influence he has over the -- what they call pro-russia separatists. those are their arms. those are their attacks. those are their bombs. while in reality, look at the kind of adoring relationship that the separatists had during the official crimea handover back in march or april. putin looked like a grandfather surrounded by his little cubs there. his military intelligence people are training those pro-russian separatists. and he conveniently stayed out of that whole mess and still gets what he wants by using them as proxies. back to you. >> all right. thanks very much, jim maceda. joining me now is nbc chief foreign affairs correspondent andrea mitchell and michael o'hanlan from the brookings institution. andrea, i want to start with you. u.s. ambassador to the u.n.
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samantha power today delivered stinging remarks implicating russia for its role in the separatist movement that's blamed for bringing down that plane. i want you to take a quick listen. >> on july 14th, separatists claimed credit for the downing of a ukrainian military cargo plane flying at 6,000 meters. on july 16th, they claimed credit for the downing of a ukrainian fighter jet. if indeed russian-backed separatists were behind this attack on a civilian airliner, they and their backers would have good reason to cover up evidence of their crime. >> and andrea, how might this tragedy impact the administration's ability to really convince europe to start standing up to the russians more on ukraine? >> if not now, when? so far the u.s. has been pretty much standing alone against vladimir putin. angela merkel has come along to a certain extent. certainly david cameron in the u.k. italy and france have resisted. so europe as a whole has not done big sanctions, big pressure.
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and they've clearly got larger economic interests here. but given what has now happened and the case that the u.s. is very carefully building, most notably at the united nations, it really is going to be very much on putin as to whether or not the cost is worth the benefit. is he going to continue to stand with these separatists and support them, train them, arm them, finance them, and see the kind of mistake that could have been made if the evidence does bear this out, as what u.s. intelligence is telling all of our reporters, correspondents, and advisers. if he's going to stay with them at the risk of long-term damage to the economy, which will be significant, not immediately, and he's been building relations as we saw this week with brazil and china and other leaders around the world with whom he is beginning to strengthen his economic relations. he's back in cuba, symbolically
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reopening the satellite base there, or saying he's going to reopen the long-standing russian satellite base that was closed down in havana decades ago. that said, his real money is in europe, and that is where his energy is supplied. that's where he gets deals with germany through, you know, europe and particularly the french, the italians, and financially through the u.k. and their banking system. so if he's going to withstand further pressure from europe, they've got to step up to it now. >> yeah, indeed. and building on what andrea just said and the reporting from jim maceda, michael, because what really is allowing vladimir putin to be so kind of sanguine right now is the fact that europe to now has not been strong, but to andrea's point, you have the u.s. methodically building this case against russia and their role with those separatists. i want you to listen to what president obama had to say about the potential role that russia played and we'll ask you a question on the other side.
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>> a group of separatists can't shoot down military transport planes, or they claim, shoot down fighter jets without sophisticated equipment and sophisticated training. and that is coming from russia. >> and on top of that, michael, at brooke,ininbrookings, at you you have a piece up saying the most damning evidence so far, separatist leader igor wrote, an antonov-26 has just been shot down crashing somewhere near the mine called process. we have warned you, do not fly in our air space. the ukrainian air force flies transport aircraft and the posting is consistent with the time and location of the mh-17 downing. so you have evidence that really even comes from the separatists themselves. there's other audio out there that purports to show a separatist talking with a russian military intelligence official. as that evidence is gathered, how do the europeans stay out of
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this and not join the u.s. in ratcheting up pressure on russia? >> well, i think that the most likely reaction is that they will increase the pressure. it's also primarily europeans who died in this tragedy. specifically dutch and also other nations. of course, what putin did after the crimea invasion and annexation was to recognize that the world was starting to get pretty united and he better back off from anything quite that blatant or he would take more sanctions. he sort of calibrated and dialed things down a notch or two. he was still playing the same game, just with somewhat different methods. and up until now, he's been, as you say, getting away with that with the europeans. they either wanted to disbelieve the evidence or thought that the level of provocation was minor enough that it could be tolerated in light of their important economic interests and their energy dependence on russia. and they wanted to just turn the other way. the french wanted to keep selling their two warships they're building for the
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russians, et cetera. now it's going to be much harder. anybody who's trying to claim this was just a limited, minor, russian assistance program has to cope with the tragedy of this week. and so it's a whole new debate. i think the obama administration's handling it correctly, as you say, to build up the case painstakingly and carefully instead of just presenting an american decision that this proves that we must now double or triple or quadruple sanctions. we have to let the evidence gradually win people over, over the next few days. >> and andrew, what about strengthening the government in ukraine? because, of course, they don't control this area where the international community and investigators need to get in and actually conduct the investigation. does this give the administration any leverage to provide more support to really strengthen that government in ukraine? >> that's not clear because this is dangerous territory. we've seen that the government in kiev does not have control over that eastern sector. so there's already reluctance by some members of the ntsb to go beyond kiev.
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they're only sending three people, two people from the fbi and one from the ntsb or three people total and to kiev, not to the crash site itself so far. so there are real risks there. it's unclear whether that is the way to strengthen the government in kiev or whether money and munitions is the best way right now going forward. >> yeah, and michael, on that same point, on the idea of strengthening militarily that government so they could actually go in and start to really fight and stand up to these rebels. what are the chances of that coming from the international community or even from the united states? >> it's a great question because if you really see the ratcheting up on both sides, then i think you don't necessarily get a victory by the ukrainian government because they're trying to deal with an insurgency. these insurgencies can be very, very, you know, pestering and very, very naggy and very hard to eliminate. so that kind of an arms race doesn't really suit our interest. on the other hand, it's pretty clear that russia is engaged in
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its half of the arms race. so if we can't get putin to stop, then i think we probably should and will increase western military support for the ukrainian government. i think the more important thing is to get putin to stop at the risk of having more sanctions placed on his country if he doesn't and presenting a united front with western europe to that effect. >> all right. we'll leave it there. andrea mitchell and michael o'hanlan, thank you. ahead, we're keeping an eye on our other major story of the day, gaza, where just moments ago we saw rockets being fired. the israeli prime minister is already talking about expanding the ground operation. we'll talk to the chair of the senate foreign relations committee about that and how the u.s. is dealing with ukraine and russia over the downed malaysia airlines plane. first, the search for answers and the difficulty of conducting a plane crash investigation in a war zone. >> i'm feeling physically sick.
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we're back with continuing coverage of the malaysia airlines crash with 298 lives lost. among them, quinn lucas schansman. friends and family have been posting condolence messages on his girlfriend's page. another victim, caroline kitzer was studying at indiana university. one of her professors issued a statement to nbc news that reads
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in part, karlijn was a bright, talented doctoral student, a diligent researcher, and a dear friend to all of us who worked with her in our research group. she was doing research to combat a.i.d.s. and alzheimer's disease. a number of leading a.i.d.s. researchers also lost their lives with the airliner fell to earth. >> len thomas was traveling to the international a.i.d.s. conference inaustralia. >> but as international outrage builds over the senseless loss of 298 lives, there's still the difficult question of how to investigate in the middle of a war zone. colonel jack jacobs and anthony roman join us. sometimes i think the most fascinating sort of the show is conversations we have off camera. i want to bring this one o to the air. you were having a great conversation. i joined in it at the end.
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about the question of the root of this plane. i want to show this "new york times" map that shows actually the malaysian plane, the active route it was flying. it's an active route used by commercial airliners every day. hours before the crash, russia actually closed four airways near the ukrainian border, including one that would have been of continuation of the route that this plane was flying on. so tony, explain to us what that means in layperson's terms. >> these navigation routes are global positioning routes. they are high-altitude routes. simply what they are are highways in the sky. if you think of a road network, it's the same thing for airline pilots and general aviation pilots. so what you're not seeing in that "new york times" map are thetersecting airways, the highways that intersect up in the sky. at any point along those intersections the air traffic
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controller has the discretion to reroute all of the aircraft. now, in the case of post-9/11 in the united states, the u.s. controllers did a magnificent job of rerouting all u.s. aircraft and getting them on the ground in a reasonably short period of time and safely. so it can be done with good management coordination. >> so what does it tell you as a former pilot that russia actually closed four of those airways? does that tell you that in this case -- we're not assigning anyone blame. this is a tragedy all around. but if russia closes four of those intersections, four of those lanes, could the air traffic controllers have advised that plane, get off that route, don't continue straight ahead, make a turn? >> well, in this instance, when the airway is closed, it's like the highway is closed. it's like there's a big red "x" there saying, don't come this way, it is not safe. and the colonel would know better than i, russia has a
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tremendous amount of strategic assets in eastern ukraine and in that portion of their country. so i could understand from a military perspective why they might want to close that. however, from strictly an airline perspective, you are not permitted to fly there. it is dangerous to fly there, and you'll be offered no control or assistance and perhaps military intervention and the russians are known to shoot down aircraft. it won't be their first. >> there's the point. therein lies the intrigue here. you did have these sort of intercepts we've gotten from our nsa intercepts showing rebel leaders saying, stay out of our air space. then they said, well, no, we had nothing to do with downing our plane. but you have a situation of an active war situation going there where these rebels are attempting to shoot down fighter pilots, planes they think belong to the ukrainians. what does all this lane changing say to you? >> well, it made no sense for them to use that route in the first place, but it's the
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shortest distance, the shortest route between amsterdam and kuala lumpur and distance is money. there was no expectation that they would be subject to the weapons that were on the ground. everybody's perception was that it might be dangerous, but they have no weapons to reach a slant range of about ten miles or so. they weren't worried about it, but they were taking a calculated risk. this is what happens when you take a calculated risk over a difficult area. >> i want to show another piece of video we have, which is ukrainian officials are claiming the video we're showing actually shows the missile launcher that was used to bring down the plane being moved, you know, afterward, after the plane was shot down. what do you make of that, colonel jack? does that help investigators to figure out who was responsible? >> well, first of all, if it really is the one that they purport it to be, it's interesting that it's only got -- it only has two missiles aboard. that vehicle carries four
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missiles. of course, first of all, it's got to be the one in question. it had to have been loaded with at least one more missile before the fact. we don't know what it was loaded with and so on. but with some good investigation, probably can turn out to be -- they'll be able to make a determination of whether or not this was the one that was in the area from which the deadly mistime was fired. don't forget, we have overhead assets, satellites in the optical range in infrared looking over this area continuously since hostility began some time ago, which is why we had a high degree of confidence that it was a missile, number one, because we saw it. and number two, that it came from eastern ukraine because we saw it. >> indeed. yeah, we have a little bit of surveillance assets over there. colonel jack, i wish we had more time. anthony roman, please come back. we want to keep talking about highways and highway lanes.
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airlines flight 370. malaysia airlines sent this tweet about flight mh-17 going missing not long after. and we now know mh-17 was shot down, killing almost 300 people. however, the official death toll can't capture the victims' humanity. you're using social media to remember them. and that includes people like soccer super fans john and liam, who were traveling all the way to new zealand to watch their favorite team. siblings mo, evie and otis among the 80 kids who perished were heading back to australia. but like the victims' relatives, you're also mourning the fact they'll never make it home and sending sympathies like this. quote, mh-17 is getting more tragic by the minute. the whole thing is utterly heartbreaking. and you're wondering if a cure for hiv might have been another casualty. more than 100 a.i.d.s. activists were on the plane en route to a conference. among them was a pioneering a.i.d.s. researcher. you're sending tweets like this
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possibility that this military effort may widen in the coming days. nbc's martin fletcher joins me now live from tel aviv. martin, can you give us a lay of what's going on there right now? >> reporter: yes, joy. it's almost exactly 24 hours after the first israeli troops crossed the border into gaza. their main objective in the short-term, anyway, the prime minister said is to find and destroy that network of secret tunnels the islamic militants have built leading from gaza inside israel to attack israeli civilians and soldiers inside israel. the army says it's found about 21 what they call exits of the tunnels. it doesn't necessarily mean 21 tunnels. each tunnel could have several exits. but that's quite an achievement in this short time. now, the israeli army says it could take about 10 to 14 days to find all those tunnels. that's a long time for the operation to escalate and for the fighting to get out of control. of course, that's the danger. at the same time, as they're operating along the border areas
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looking for the tunnels, the israeli army is entering urban areas in the northern part of gaza strip. you remember a couple days ago the israelis dropped about 100,000 leaflets in three palestinian neighborhoods warning the residents to leave those homes for their own safety. those are the areas where the army is now operating. they're going slowly in case of booby traps. they're going into schools, mosques, looking for any military equipment. in particular, rocket launchers, the launchers that have been firing those rockets into israel. meanwhile, hamas is continuing to fire, about 80 rockets so far today. no significant damage or injuries. joy? >> very quickly, martin, if i could just ask you one follow-up question. when those leaflets are dropped and palestinians are told to leave their homes because those rocket attacks are coming or because those air strikes are coming, where do the people go? >> reporter: that's a good question. that's the problem. there really is nowhere to go.
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there's rocketing all over gaza. the israelis say go into the urban areas, into the center of the town, which is an indication that israel is not intending to send its army there. mostly, they're sheltering in schools run by the united nations. there's about 21 schools overflowing with palestinian refugees. also, they probably go to the homes of friends and family, in particular family. the bottom line is, in a tiny, enclosed space like gaza under attack from the israelis by air, sea, and land, it's not safe anywhere. that's for sure, joy. >> indeed, martin fletcher. stay safe. appreciate it. >> reporter: thank you. >> the israeli ground invasion of gaza happens as the world celebrates international mandela day, a day approved unanimously by the u.n. five years ago, both to remember civil rights leader nelson mandela and to follow in his footsteps of making the world a better place. with me is the grandson of nelson mandela, one of the participants at the global citizen festival, which is a live concert event coming up this fall and co-sponsored by
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msnbc as part of the effort to stamp out extreme poverty worldwide by 2030. thank you so much for being here. i really appreciate it. >> thank you for having me, joy. >> i want to talk about one aspect of your grandfather's life and advocacy that doesn't get mentioned all that much, all that often. it was very important to him. that was his support for the palestinian people. what do you think he would make of the situation that we do see now, an incredibly impoverished gaza strip, hamas recalcitrant and continuing to launch rockets into israel, and we're no closer to peace between the palestinians and israelis than we were when your father was alive -- your grandfather was alive. >> i think he, you know, would strongly feel there needs to be a new set of dialogue ultimately. that's the only way there's going to be a breakthrough in that crisis. i know in south africa, he'd spent time with the muslim population and the jewish population on, you know, how they could strengthen that dialogue. >> and nelson mandela had a very
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close relationship with jewish south africans who also opposed apartheid, but he had a more chilly relationship with israel in his lifetime. i want to read you a quo from a 1999 "new york times" article. it talks about nelson mandela's first trip to israel in which he said the follows. he said, talk of peace will remain hollow if israel continues to occupy arab territories. and he was sitting then at a conference table in israel's foreign ministry where such sentiments are rarely heard. he said, i understand completely well why israel occupies these lands. there was a war, but if there's going to be peace, there must be a complete withdrawal from all of these areas. how controversial was nelson mandela's stance on israel vis-a-vis the palestinians? >> i think he would say it wasn't controversial at all, that he was giving a frank assessment of what he saw on the ground from his experience. but as you said, you know, he was someone that detested oppression. and he definitely felt that the palestinian people were being
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oppre oppressed. statemen at the same time, he acknowledged the fact the israeli state was essentially being bombarded at the same time. >> so you're a part of the global citizen initiative. this initiative to stamp out world poverty. gaza is a very unique case. it's one of the most densely populated places on earth. in 2012, the u.n. reported that the projected population growth would be up to 2.1 million people in 2020, up from 1.6 million people now living in an area about the size of philadelphia. also in that same 2012 report by the united nations, it found gazans were worse off than they were in the 1990 with a per capita gdp that was $13,027 a year in 1994 and that's projected to go down to $12,073. when you look at situations like that, that also include
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hostilities, you know, how do you even begin to approach eradicating poverty? >> i think the fundamental thing is to get people aware of these things and to start looking at ways that us as the next generation -- i mean, there's millions of kids in israel. there's millions of kids in palestine who just want a better life. they need to be a part of making that a reality. and the world needs to support them. i think that's what we're trying to do. >> indeed. we really appreciate you being here. it is wonderful to meet you. >> thank you. >> all right. and as i mentioned, today being mandela day, which is a global day to end extreme poverty by 2030. the global citizen group, which msnbc is partnering with, has released the o ffollowing video. and you can get the details on how you can take action by visiting globalcitizen.msnbc.com. you can join the conversation on twitter using the hash tag #zeropoverty2030. we'll be right back.
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this certainly will be a wake-up call for europe and the world that there are consequences to an escalating conflict in eastern ukraine. that it is not going to be localized, it is not going to be conta contained. >> that was president obama who's meeting right now with secretary of state john kerry and treasury secretary jack lew at the white house to discuss the u.s. reaction to the downing of malaysia airlines flight 17. on capitol hill, reaction is coming swiftly. many members are calling it an act of war, and senator john mccain is vowing there will be consequences for russia. >> the separatists could have only gotten that capability from russia, and so therefore, the culpable party here is vladimir putin. >> this morning on "morning joe," congressman peter king, a member of the homeland security committee, called for president obama to get tough on putin.
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>> i think it's important for the president to really come out today and show that he is the world leader and line up european economic sanctions against russia. i think we should even consider the idea of even at least temporarily suspending landing rights in our airports and europe and any other allies we have around the world. at least as a threat against putin to realize this is not just an accident. this isn't just something that happened. he's criminally penalty in on this. >> joining me now, senator bob menendez, chairman of the foreign relations committee. thanks for being here. i want to start with what your congressional colleagues are saying. you just peter king say putin is criminally negligent. do you agree putin is criminally negligent, and should we begin to ratchet up more sanctions? >> well, first of all, i think this is a horrible tragedy, but it's also a crime. and the question is who exactly
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is to blame. and while the early evidence leads us to believe that a surface-to-air missile ultimately destroyed this plane and that it seems it came from separatist-controlled area that have been fueled by russia, we yet don't have all of the facts. before i jump to those conclusions, i want to have all the facts. but i will say this. when the facts are deduced and if they lead to, for example, russian separatists who struck down this plane with the use of very possibly military weaponry from russia, there must be a severe consequence. russia has been in an aggressive posture throughout eastern ukraine after it invaded crimea. i think the national order has been upended by russia. now if the facts lead us to the conclusions that some have come
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to, then there has to be more severe sanctions. >> but senator, you do have senator john mccain, your colleague on the senate foreign relations committee, is out ahead of you saying putin will pay. you're talking about a more methodical process. but if as you said, if it does lead right back to vladimir putin, to russia, then what -- in theory, walk us through making russia pay. what would that entail? >> it would be broad sanctions. we have had some sanctions leveraged against individuals in russia. just the other day the administration offered some sanctions against certain companies in russia. but there are much more severe sanctions, and as the author of sanctions on iran, there are much more severe sanctions we can level. and the european union must seriously consider joining us in this effort to make them multilateral. those could be financial service sanctions, which are really
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crushing. they can be to the russian gas entity and other major companies that ultimately would have a severe consequence to the russian economy and would get russia to understand that there is a consequence for violating the international order. >> and, you know, we are now used to hearing members of congress talk about what needs to be done and then watching congress unable to come together on any solution that involves cooperating. could you see this congress coming together with the white house to come to an agreement on a framed response such as what you just described? >> oh, i have no doubt about it. as a matter of fact, i think the congress has been very forward leaning as it relates to russia and the desire to more significantly sanction russia before this incident. and so if the administration, who has tried to keep the european union together with us,
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because multilateral sanctions are always more powerful than unilateral sanctions, if the administration gives the indication it wants to go that way, it will find in this case a congress that is very responsive. >> i want to ask a question that is a little off the beaten track. you do have edward snowden, who's right now a fugitive who is in russia. he is being harbored by russia. and the release of information by edward snowden that included information about the united states' surveillance on some of our european partners has really made relationships difficult with those very partners we need now to coordinate a response to russia with us. talk about how the snowden situation has impacted our efforts to get europe to work with us on these situations in russia and ukraine. >> well, look, it's made it far more difficult. just about a week ago i had members of the german congress, and while we had many issues i
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offered to talk about, including how the european union responds to russia and the ukraine, the only thing they wanted to talk about, felt compelled to talk about and for them it was passionate, was the question of the nsa spying and the allegations of two spies within the german government, supposedly spies from the united states. and so in this case, germany is a leader in the european union when we want to see sanctions. it also has a complicated relationship with russia because of its economic interests in russia. and the european union as a whole, having severe interests in terms of energy coming from russia. so you need the germans, for example, to be leaders in this regard within the european union, and i'm sure they'll come to that conclusion in their own interests. but it makes it more complicated when we are trying to deal with them on these issues and they feel that a friend and ally is somehow spying on them, and why
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do among friends must there be spying? so while other allies have actually spied on us, that's not a sufficient answer for them. and this whole question certainly creates a strained relationship that while we continue to move forward on a whole host of issues, it just clouds it, makes it more difficult at a time in which we need unity of purpose between the european union and the united states. >> all right. senator bob menendez, we'll have to leave it there. thank you. up next, we reid between the lines on the human toll from our two big stories today.
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this week has been notable for its international intrigue, and the big picture stories of the breakdown of international relationships and norms. from the gaza strip, the 40th
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most densely populated place on earth, 1.6 million people living in 140-square miles, about the size and density of philadelphia. where a ground invasion by israel is currently under way, and where already some 267 palestinians and two israelis have died since the latest round of hostilities began. 27 palestinians and one israeli soldier in just the last day alone. the deaths of four young boys, all cousins, who moments before were kicking a soccer ball on a beach and who were then killed by israeli missile strikes and the anguish of their families. [ screaming ] that anguish adds more tears and more heartbreak to the tragedy of three israeli teens kidnapped and murdered and a palestinian teenager kidnapped and reportedly burned alive in
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retaliation. his american cousin, who was beaten and detained by israeli police, returned home to u.s. soil late wednesday. >> i'm only 15, but i will never think about freedom in the same way as i did two months ago. i want to ask you all to please remember my cousin and the 36 kids that died in gaza. and over the past several days. they have names like mine. >> half a world away, the sudden deaths of 298 people on a malaysia airlines flight that took the most unfortunate of routes over ukraine. and the disbelief and anguish of their families. these are the stories of human tragedy, human loss, and it's important that we don't lose that point as we cover the political conflicts that caused all of the death and the destruction. it's tempting to get caught up in those political nuances or in the eternal partisanship that seeks someone in washington to
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blame or to deride when the world falls apart. but the core of these stories, the core of these tragedies are the human losses which for the families involved are unimaginably painful and personal, and that's the story we have to keep telling. and that wraps things up for "the reid report." be sure to watch us every weekday at 2:00 p.m. eastern and visit us online. and "the cycle" is up next. my friends, happy friday to you. and what have you guys got coming up? >> happy friday right back to you, joy. you're absolutely right. we have to tell the human stories in all this. there are real people and real families who are in pain right now. we're going to tell the humanitarian side of this ukraine plane crisis. we're going to talk about the military side. we're going to talk about the political side. we're going to talk about it from all angles today. >> so important. "the cycle" is coming up next. [ man ] adventure, it means taking chances.
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led israel's charge into the gaza strip. >> i ran out, and everything was just black, on fire. >> people talking about seeing passengers still strapped to their chairs, still wearing their headphones. >> one american citizen, quinn lucas schansman was killed. >> i think there's going to be hell to pay, and there should be. >> we should condemn any such action in the strongest possible terms and call for those responsible to be swiftly brought to justice. >> no one should interfere with the area or move any debris, including the black box. >> everybody has a motive to lie. >> the question is why any airline would be flying over a war zone in the first place. >> it's a real challenge for anyone, but particularly for a country in a war-torn area like
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this. >> i'm feeling physically sick. >> a world reeling -- >> volatility index or the market's fear gate spiked 34%. >> of course a terrible human tragedy first and foremost, but a financial tragedy too. >> the world economy's integrated. >> and that's not all. >> the operation israel has dubbed protective edge began under the cover of darkness overnight. >> whoa! >> several dozen were killed in the first few hours alone. once troops are on the ground in close combat, military missions seldom go as planned. >> good afternoon to you from new york city, where it's been a highly unusual day at the united natio nations. two emergency sessions on two huge international issues. this very hour an urgent meeting about how to contain the all-out war between israel and hamas. the ground invasion now a full 24 hours old, and israeli officials warn it couldas