tv Underwater Dreams MSNBC July 20, 2014 10:00am-11:01am PDT
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get a chance to say ♪ >> the whole thing started in phoenix, air sghoen na, in a crap van on the way to a robotics competition in santa barbara, california. it's the first time the boys had been to california with the beaches, ocean, sun, sand, and, yeah, beautiful people. entered the only underwater robotics competition that existed on a whim just for the hell of it. they didn't know it, but it was a competition that would change everything. ♪ brighter than the sun
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>> they were a rag tag robotics team located slightly west of phoenix arizona and slightly north of the desert. but here and now in santa barbara, up against some of the best engineering programs in the country, this was a first for them. they had no idea what to expect some of them come from real fancy schools like m.i.t. and some come from inner schools. >> who would have thought you'd have a robotics club in the middle of the desert? >> the boys entered the venue and were blown away. >> when we first walked in, we saw the other robots and they were like pieces of underwater jewelry. >> most of them looked professionally cleaned. >> chrome, stainless steel. >> the m.i.t. robot was
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impressive. it was custom made and had a bunch of logos and stickers from the sponsors and i think exxonmobil was on there. that was a little intimidating. >> i had no idea who m.i.t. was. >> it's m.i.t. a manhattan project. >> we were just blown away. we thought, we'll never be able to do anything in this competition. >> when we walked in, we were different. >> we definitely felt out of place. our action was definitely something that stood out there. >> nobody was mexican or hispanic or latino. we had an iranian teacher that probably looked mexican. >> the boys had a primitive robot made out of red, white, and blue pvc. did was pretty ugly and it was
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cheap, too. >> pvc pipe, the stuff you can get at home depot. >> we made our robot with a hacksaw. >> cars, colors, and paints on it. >> pvc pipe with a little bit of pcu and a lot of cable. >> basically, primary color, cube. >> stinky got his name because when we were ready to assemble it, we all got in this little room and used pvc pipe blue. >> so it smells really, really bad and really, really strong. >> we look like the carnival at a ride. just a raggaty ass robot. it looked like we pieced everything together from the junk yard.
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>> here was a high school team that entered the collegiate division. officially called the explorer class. it was four multifunctional remote operated vehicles. >> we were going with the mind set that we were going mainly as observers. >> as an ex pra tore type of thing. if we enter as a high school and get beat, that's going to be embarrassing. >> it wouldn't be such a big deal. >> as long as you don't finish last and beat one college, that would be phenomenal. >> loren zoe was fixated on hooters. i think he said it once just as a joke. hooters. so, of course, lorenzo brought it up all the time after that. >> why did you want to go to hooters? >> because i wanted to be a chef
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and there's good food there. [ laughter ] >> lorenzo is a goofy guy. he's kind of like the glue that keeps us together. >> he had a mullet. people picked on him. >> i was a guy that got in fights. [ speaking in foreign language ] >> i was pretty rebellious. >> oscar was a very serious guy. he liked being on task. >> the leader from day one -- oscar was an alpha male and very cocky and confident. i would make a competition out of anything. >> louise was the guy who didn't want to talk much. he's very intimidated when you first meet him because he's a big person. >> louise is a dependable guy.
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you weren't going to be worried about him not doing something that he said he would. >> he's a very smart and gentle person. >> he's the kind of guy that would back you up no matter what. >> he became my best friend. as i remember he bought me a burger from jack-in-the-box. nobody had ever done anything like that for me. he was like my brother, actually. >> christian knnew computers. >> serious type. >> very self-assured. would pull out facts like a wikipedia. >> working on a team was a challenge for him. >> i was a loner. i really didn't like people very much. >> and then there was me.
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>> they also looked a little different. they were the only hispanic team competing. actually, they were the only hispanic team there. hispanic, as if frfrom mexico. >> i was about 5 years old when i came to the u.s. when my mom crossed the border, it was through a tunnel. >> what i do remember is getting on a bus. >> my dad used to be a part-time
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police officer. being a police officer in mexico is not very safe. my mom and i took a bus to the border where there was like a kind of hole in the fence and crossed through the hole and ran over to a walmart. i remember feeling scared before we crossed. any english was very minimal. the first day of class was just like one long word coming out of the teacher's mouth. i couldn't understand anything. ♪
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>> i had no idea what i was getting into. eddie was basically on our team but wasn't on our team yet. >> he was on a high school team that year. >> we took him along as mascot. >> jordan is probably the most level-headed. >> pretty much team dad. he was also the one who refused to sleep. if you didn't do your best work at night, you were definitely in the minority. heather was the one who really wanted to go flying new technology. >> lauren has the best, out of the box wacky idea. >> super smart and bad ass. >> he's a professor from m.i.t. >> i was pretty hands off. >> he gave us a long rope with which we could hang ourselves on. he didn't let us do anything too stupid. >> there were two cool kids and then option c. i was option c. >> from a design standpoint,
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they were high school kids. so the goal was to keep it simple. >> lorenzo had the inspiration of building it together. we knew we were going to use pvc pipes to build the frame. >> then we also had a spy camera that we got from a spy camera website. >> the most surprising thing was the power of the motors. we had a challenge of trying to finesse the movement. >> the hardest design challenge for this competition is not getting leaks in the robot. you're competing under water and there's pressure on it all the time. >> the robot was sort of delicate. in certain places if you grabbed it, joints would move and cause a leak. lorenzo said paint those parts red and the rule was, don't touch anything red. >> the teacher emphasized
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simplicity. >> an rov has so many different subsystems involved. you have the electronic sensors, chassis, trusters. >> it was all from scratch. it wasn't off the shelf stuff. >> we could take the most challenging thing to do something. >> if you can build something easy, why do that when you can build it better. >> it was a nice aluminum frame, yellow foam and it sort of kept it neutrally balanced in the water. really, the thing was a lead brick. >> the other thing that it had on it was a big exxonmobil sticker which we go the a lot of flack for. >> if you win, they say obviously you won because you're m.i.t. if you lose, everyone is like, ha, ha, you lost. >> i thought for sure we were going to lose. >> the team had to make sure that stinky was ready for the
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first round of competition which would begin the following morning. so stinky was lowered into the water for a test drive. at the first public unveiling. it began leaking almost immediately. it was bad. it was swift. and it was nearly catastrophic. >> stinky wasn't properly responding to the controls. >> we were getting false connections. like sometimes it would go and sometimes it wouldn't. >> so we're telling it to go forward and the robot is going side ways. >> hold it down, opened up the case. >> we noticed water in the case. we found a little crack in one of the o-rings. >> and i'm thinking, oh, my god. >> all of the electronics are going to get wet. we were out of the competition. >> we were all having problems.
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there were tons of teams down at the pool testing it out. >> they just didn't move after that. >> some were disasters. basically, they'd go down and never come back up. >> and holding the sony playstation remote that killed our control system. >> we made this really cool, complex control system. >> i pushed one of the two buttons that wasn't supposed to do anything and everything kind of went up in smoke. smoke comes out of the circuit board. it exploded. that wasn't good. >> i didn't notice other teams having trouble which raised my, they are going to do better, we are going to do worse. >> the group only had 12 hours to regroup, rerig, and solve their various problems. for carl hayden's group, the problems were a little different. poverty, crime, and for some of these kids, pressure to work.
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>> the makeup of the carl hayden students is 90% hispanics. most are below the poverty line. we have students with very low-self-esteem and students with no goals in mind. >> i remember all my friend's reactions when i said i got a job at carl hayden. they were like, you're going to have knives and guns. your car is going to be broken into. >> this is an economically depressed area. >> there were gangs around the area. i remember our freshman year in high school, if you didn't have a you could get jumped just for that. >> there's so much gang activity because there's a benefit to it. they see it as a family.
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>> lorenzo had a hard family life. >> it was always an issue with my dad being drunk. >> i didn't want to be there. >> everybody at the school knew that there are a lot of undocumented students here but it made no difference. >> it's easier for a lot of those kids just to drop out of school and go work. >> a lot of students are just trying to kill time. they are waiting until they turn 16 years old so that they could go full force into the workforce. so it's very hard for kids to follow a path that their parents don't have envisioned for them. >> my dad finished third grade and he dropped out. >> my mom finished school at second grade. >> my dad started working in a
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the boys headed back to the hotel and their van was starting to smell like fast food and snickers. the boys went at it, brainstormed ways to deal with the water in the mechanical housing. ideas that were just downright embarrassing. >> we started talking about switches with the stuff with which diapers absorbs liquids. >> lorenzo said, wait, aren't tampons made of the same material? >> everyone got quiet because they are like, how would you know this? >> lorenzo was the last one to say, not me. >> hey, guess what? >> you said, okay, i will. the other three boys said, we want to go watch.
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>> but our teachers wouldn't let us go. >> and lorenzo went down the aisle, stared at the tampons. he picked them up and with a red face paid for the tampons. >> we see lorenzo coming out. he's like running and he's got the tampons in his hands like he was a trophy. >> the first time we put in the dixie cup and looked to see how much water it would absorb. >> poof. >> it just exploded. >> i didn't have any idea what to expect. i don't use tampons, so -- >> here you have four guys and two adult males standing around a dixie cup watching a tampon explode. >> i remember someone walking around with a dixie cup and a
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swollen-up tampon. i don't remember who it was. >> macgyver would be proud. >> the team returned to uc santa barbara the following morning on pins and needles. they had no idea how long the tampon solution would hold or what else would go wrong. >> i was kind of excited to be in the water and actually be competing. >> we had 30 minutes to do the mission. >> to navigate a course that had been built in the ucsb pool. >> down at the bottom, there's a simulating shipwreck and you're supposed to go down there and do a number of things. >> we had to find an acoustic pinger and retrieve it. >> measure the temperature of the hot spring. >> we had to actually extract liquid from a pipe. and we had to retrieve a bell, i
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believe. >> so the actual mission, the deployment of the vehicle, was worth half the points for the total competition. >> all of these tasks were worth 110 points. >> there is a tremendous time pressure, especially if things are going wrong. ♪ >> round one was a nail biter. stinky dove in and did its things. allen and freddie were sweating bullets, but not the boys. >> i was responsible for what i call hitting the switches, kind of like a low rider. >> i was controlling the cameras and seeing that we're going the right way.
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>> and i was the vertical driver. i was doing all of the up and down motion and i was coordinating with oscar so that the robot would move in three directions. >> luis was the tether man. he would put the robot in the water and measure the tether and make sure it didn't get tangled. he wasn't allowed to tell us where the rov was in the water. >> the tether guy was not supposed to talk to the pilots at all, which luis was perfect for. >> they were all business. >> one of the tasks was to sample the fluid from a leaking barrel. >> we had a mechanism to extract the red liquid from the leaking barrel. >> we had some iv bags and some kind of a syringe feeder. >> i think we had an aquarium pump. we fitted a copper hose pipe in
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there so we would just drop down, kind of like a mosquito, basically hook down into it. >> once we actually got it in, that was a very big moment for us. >> because in any of our practice rounds, we never did that. >> well, it turns out this team, hayden, did it. >> it just fell into it like it was meant to be or something. >> i don't remember actually feeding a tube. >> we're having issues with our depth control so we're unable to get a good seal. >> we did not extract the right liquid. >> and they can't do it. so you go, oh, i've got 15 points here and i've got to give them a zero. >> we definitely found the hydrophone and i think that we may have been the only team that did. and that was mostly because of
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kurt sitting there with his ear phones listening saying, hot, cold, hot, cold. and i heard it. >> the team from m.i.t. was able to retrieve it. the team from carl hayden couldn't do it. you're judging these kids but you're also falling in love with them. your heartbreaks for them but you also have to put a zero there for that task. >> the carl hayden team took stinky out of the water. m.i.t. seemed to be cranking on all cylinders. >> we open up the briefcase and we see that the tampons are twice as big as they were. >> the judge comes over and says, what am i looking at? >> it's hard to miss. they put the score the kids got up on the scoreboard and we could see that, hey, we did better than a lot of the other teams. we weren't as good as m.i.t.
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>> we were just super happy that our robot works. we didn't care so much about the score at that point. >> you know what, we certainly didn't embarrass ourselves. >> we were ecstatic. it was like, that's it. nothing else matters. >> a couple hours later we started watching the scores and then it became competitive. >> everyone could see the result from round one but the scoring for rounds two and three would not be revealed until the end of the day so the boys would have no idea how they were doing. she makes underwater fans that are powered by the moon. ♪ she can print amazing things, right from her computer. [ whirring ] [ train whistle blows ] she makes trains that are friends with trees. ♪ my mom works at ge. ♪ but parallel parking isn't one you do a lof them.ings great. my mom works at ge.
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mh-17 night. we'll now take you back to "underwater dreams." it was time for round two. the fish out of water section. it was a formal presentation to a panel of judges in english, which was the boy's second language. >> they have to describe the vehicle. so the batteries, control system. >> what kind of propulsion we were using, what was our ballist. >> the kids rehearsed their part of the presentation over and over and over again. >> we had to know that robot inside out. >> but they were still nervous and they would stutter and make his steaks and we're looking at all of these other teams going in for 45 minutes an hour, and
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our team goes in and in 20 minutes they come back out. allen and i are like, wow, they must have really screwed up. >> the teachers were asking us, why are you out here? we're like, early. >> there's no way they could have been that good the way they were describing and come out in 20 minutes. how is it possible? and cristian, you know, with that authority he has, he said, they asked us everything and we knew everything they asked us. >> cristian said power points are used by people who don't know what they are talking about. >> the final phase of the competition was a poster and a technical report. >> the technical paper, like it often does in engineering, gets kind of pushed to the last minute. >> the technical report was kind of a group effort but the one that actually sat down and wrote
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the whole thing was cristian. >> i visited the team that had their technical paper put together and i was asked to give it a review. i was impressed. the boys fundamentally understood what they had built. >> the first prize was a judge's award. >> i was not all that surprised. >> it was, one, either for the use of tampons or, two, they made up an award for us waus beer not getting anything else. >> it was just a pity award. >> but then carl hayden was called again. this time for the quality of the technical report. >> i was surprised when we won the technical report. >> i kept thinking it was a
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mistake, they added up the points wrong or something. >> and then they began announcing the winners of the overall competition. >> we were kind of hoping that we would be up in the upper quarter and maybe, maybe we had a shot at third place. the only scores we knew was the underwater mission. so we were sitting there and they announced that the third place award goes to -- >> cape fear community college. >> and i thought, oh, crap. we were probably fourth. the year before, cape fear had won. >> it was kind of a huh, interesting. >> there's only two spots left. we're going, well, we probably
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got this. >> and then second place was announced. >> we thought, huh, what happened? what did we mess up on? >> oh, man, who beat m.i.t.? this is going to be awesome. >> i was thinking, who the hell was first? >> if those two powerhouses didn't get it, who got it? people are looking around. >> carl hayden. [ applause ] >> when the announcer place, we all stood up. >> make sure you don't have any crumbs on your shirts. >> the whole crowd was screaming
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because we were the first place team. >> the place erupted. people were yelling and screaming and laughing. >> we didn't know how to react. >> that was my own little version of it. >> we were so excited. >> i don't remember walking to the stage because, you know, i was just floating, i think. >> it just was like almost like it didn't happen. >> i remember freddie telling lorenzo not to scream hooters if we called their names. >> lorenzo, under no circumstances do you start yelling around hooters. >> it doesn't sound professional. >> who are these punks? you know, these upstarts from nowhere that had no business doing what they do. so what is that?
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>> it was a game changer. >> we were all thunderstruck to find out that a high school team beat everybody. >> this competition was a big deal to me because all my life i had just been in trouble, young mexican from the ghetto in arizona. >> to me it was a big deal but my family doesn't realize it because none of them went to college. so they don't know anything about m.i.t. or any of the other colleges out there. >> they shouldn't have done what they did. the odds were against them. >> i was surprised that carl hayden won. but i felt they deserved to win. >> the impact of that competition on the kids from
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phoenix was probably 100 fold what it would have been had the m.i.t. kids had won. so i think the outcome was just right. >> we may have had the technically superior vehicle but we weren't selling it perhaps as well as carl hayden did. >> i thought it was really awesome to see this high school team really do a good job and beat out top colleges that were there. >> they definitely earned it. >> it was brilliant. >> their enclosure was leaking and they had to solve it. great idea. >> that's awesome. i probably wouldn't have got to do that, right? >> there are a lot of ways to solve the problem. usually and most often the best is the simplest and it doesn't take an m.i.t. degree to solve these problems. >> they showed that they were engineers. >> they outdid us and they got
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they are the founding fathers of the rov. they broke a mold and said, good luck. catch me if you can. >> the younger students saw that and suddenly it was kind of like a relay team, suddenly you know that that path was there, where it might have appeared remote. >> i'm not just an average joe. now i have to set an example. >> what kind of batteries are you guys using right now? >> i am the team president as well as the head electrician. >> you guys inspired a lot of people, especially this team and people throughout our community. >> us seeing what you did wants us to prove to everybody that what you did wasn't just luck.
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>> the stereotypes of mexicans coming from this community, you don't see the community rise to something else. >> i grew up my entire life hearing that i will never amount to anything and you guys inspired me to trying to prove people wrong. >> i think you guys are really awesome and you're my role models. >> since that remarkable red letter day, luis, lorenzo, cristian, and oscar have taken remarkably different paths in life. >> i'm working as a janitorial supervisor and i went to scottsdale culinary institute. i'm running a catering business with lorenzo. >> i do a lot of catering. i help out my parents by paying bills. >> that's good.
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>> i'm paying off the house and a few other bills. >> i graduated second in my class. i went to asu on a full scholarship until my scholarship was revoked. >> if i'm lucky, i get minimum wage. >> even though i had a degree in mechanical engineering, i knew it was going to be hard for me to get a job in the states without having legal status. >> so oscar decided to deport
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himself, turn himself in to become legally documented. >> he was dreaming of going into the military, did rotc and all that type of stuff. they said, they said, sorry, charlie, you're undocumented, you can't do it. >> just knowing you can't do something because you're lacking a piece of paper is kind of devastating. we decided i was going to go back to mexico and reapply to come back into the states. >> which means he was going to get an automatic ten-year bar from ever entering the united states. he was going to have to leave his wife and his at that time one child here. >> he had applied to the immigration and naturalization service to give him amnesty basically. >> his application was denied. >> i came back to juarez, then they denied my visa. >> and it was difficult for him
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because in an odd way he wasn't mexican. he was an american. >> after we got our second denial, it was -- you know, it was hard to think what we were going to do next just because we knew we could face up to ten years of me being in mexico. >> we were stunned. we couldn't believe that someone had the fortitude and the determination to say this is what i'm going to do even though the odds are against me. >> when we realized that it was not easy and he was having problems getting all the paperwork to come back, i decided to visit the congressional office of senator durbin from illinois. >> this extraordinary young man, a mechanical engineer, a person who can add something to america, is being told america doesn't need you. wait for ten years. >> well, surprising to oscar and everyone else -- >> i got an approval notice from
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okay. back when our team did not win some competition and we were talking about it and going, whoa, what a story, and i suggested that we fly you guys up here. we tried, couldn't do it at the time for technical reasons with tsa, and i feel really bad about this, but that was all we could do. we couldn't figure out a way of closing the loop here, doing the right thing and having you be here, and i can't tell you -- sorry, i get emotional. this is really cool. i'm really glad you guys showed up here because you deserve being here. you can beat our team, you should be here. >> so i'm kurt steel. this is jordan stanway. i work at monterey bay aquarium research institute on some long-range auvs. >> i make apple accessories for apple. ear pods, that was my baby.
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so it's cool to see like when i go on the subway and you see someone is using our headphones, you're like, yeah, those are mine. >> so i'm working for blue fin robotics these days building underwater robots as well. we helped out with the search for emiamelia earhart last summ. >> what are you up to? >> i graduated from high school and went completely the opposite way. i'm trying to actually set up a restaurant. it has nothing to do with engineering but i always had a passion for it, and i always cooked at home. >> i'm not sure why you say that's not engineering. >> it's still creating something awesome. you just get to eat it at the end. >> i've been working daily, i have a regular job but whenever lorenzo needs help with his catering business, i usually help him out. >> how did m.i.t. lose to karl hayden high school? >> they were on top of the game. >> it was 30 judges. marty was there. we knew that something was special up with these kids.
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>> so, yeah, while, you know, lorenzo might not be an m.i.t. engineer, he's still viewed as one of the forefathers of all the kids that come to school, they want to be like these kids that have, you know, opened the doors for them. >> you're changing the world, man. there is no better engineering. [ applause ]
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next on "meet the press," the crisis with russia over the downing of malaysia airlines flight 17. strong reaction this morning from the obama administration as russian-backed rebels take the outrageous step of removing bodies from the crash site. how will the u.s. force president putin to cooperate. war in the middle east after a failed peace push by the obama white house. i'll ask secretary of state john kerry if the president's foreign policy vision is up to all of these global tasks. later, the blow to aids research. some of the world's top experts killed in the malaysia airlines disaster. i'll get exclusive reaction from
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