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taking. time is of the essence. families deserve to be able to lay their loved ones to rest with dignity. >> all of this as the world reacts with revulsion at the treatment of the bodies of mh-17 body victims. and secretary of state john kerry heads to egypt to try to broker a peace deal before it's too late. and we start with the white house. efforts to somehow stem the violence in gaza where israeli retaliation from missile attacks has left 25 israeli soldiers and more than 550 palestinians dead. the latter mostly civilians. secretary of state john kerry is headed to egypt where he will meet with his egyptian counterparts who have been trying to broker an end to the violence now in its 14th day. but the violence only got more ferocious over the weekend. this morning, president obama kicked off his unscheduled foreign policy remarks on the
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south lawn of the white house with this statement on the violence in gaza. >> israel has a right to defend itself against rocket and tunnel attacks from hamas. as a result of its operations, israel has already done significant damage to hamas' terrorist infrastructure in gaza. i've also said, however, that we have serious concerns about the rising number of palestinian civilian deaths and the loss of israeli lives. >> two americans serving with the israeli defense forces are among those who have been killed in the invasion of gaza. while israel says it's targeting weapons manufacturers, underground rocket launchers and terror squads attempting entry into israel, a missile strike on a hospital today underscored the mostly civilian toll of the attacks. at least four people were killed and dozens wounded in what's been the third attack on a hospital since israel began pounding gaza in retaliation for rocket fire into israeli territory.
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"the washington post" quoting preliminary u.n. data reports that of the more than 500 dead in gaza, about 72% are civilians, including scores of women and children. mean while, the u.n. agency dealing with the growing number of palestinian refugees says about 85,000 have fled their homes and settled at u.n. shelters since the gaza invasion began. and over the weekend and into today, worldwide protests from europe to india to the u.s. condemning israel's actions. nbc's ayman mohyeldin joins us on the phone from gaza city. ayman, i want to start with that question of the now internally displaced refugees inside gaza. the u.n. reporting it's sheltering some 85,000 people. how secure are those locations from missile attacks? >> well, in theory those schools and those locations should be very safe. what we know for a fact is that all these u.n. schools have their gps coordinates given to the israeli military precisely
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to avoid any type of accidental fire or any type of accident that may involve indirect attacks as we've seen. now, in the past and including in this war, several of those u.n. schools have been damaged as a result of direct or indirect shelling by the israeli military. there's one case of a school here in northern gaza in which several people were injured as a result of an israeli attack on that school. again, it's not yet clear whether that school was deliberately the target or perhaps in the vicinity of it, but it underlines or underscores the point we've repeatedly made. because gaza is so densely populated, even if the school or shelter was not directly hit, it may become a target as a result of whatever may have been next to it. but in addition to that, not only are they dealing with security challenges from the ongoing conflict, the u.n. has to deal with a growing humanitarian crisis. to feed 85,000 people, to shelter them, to make sure the environment is safe, hygienic, make sure they have their basic needs and necessities, that is
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really the challenge that the u.n. is faced with. and that's why they have a lot of people saying that this is reaching a humanitarian catastrophe between what the u.n. is dealing with and what palestinian health officials are dealing with. >> and ayman, long term, because if you're talking about people who were displaced from their homes because their homes were destroyed, you're talking about people who can't go home, let's say, even if the conflict ends. so how is that playing out? because you are talking about people who are now essentially permanently displaced. >> absolutely. and we've seen this again over the past six years, over the three wars that israel has fought here in 2008 and 2012 and now. these homes do not get replaced. why? because gaza is under siege. it is hard to get in supplies for reconstruction. there is no money for people to actually rebuild. there's a high unemployment rate. people don't have sources of income to afford to rebuild homes. and so what you see is a social and economic degradation of georggaza as a result of these conflicts time and time again.
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families end up living together. that puts strain on the resources in society. more importantly, a lot of the aid organizations that try to come in also struggle because of the lack of supplies, the shortage of supplies. we've seen some help from the international community. there are some arab countries that oftentimes come in and volunteer millions of dollars. but then again, they always run into the problem of trying to rebuild communities and besides the actual construction, the loss of lives here are the hardest parts to rebuild, joy. >> yeah, indeed. all right. well, thank you very much, nbc's ayman mohyeldin. stay safe. the executive director of the jerusalem and palestine center and the u.s. editor of herets join us. ayman was talking about this growing humanitarian crisis and one of the factors in that and one of the things that the hamas leadership has been calling sfrt opening of these closed pathways including into egypt. you have the egyptian government
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continuing to maintain closure which would essentially prevent a lot of supplies from coming in. talk to us a little bit about egypt's role in attempting to broker this peace because they do maintain that closure and because they do oppose hamas', i guess you could say, sister organization, which is of course the muslim brotherhood in egypt. >> sure. well, first let's keep in mind the geography here. the gaza strip is a rectangular piece of land, one of the four sides which borders egypt. there's a personnel crossing there which is not meant for the entry and exit of goods but rather for the entry and exit of people. the remaining three sides, one of which is coastal territory, and the other two sides, which are fenced off from israel, are where palestinians in gaza have an opportunity to reach the outside world through the use
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of, of course, exports and imports that affect the actual economy there and play directly into the humanitarian crisis. that proceeds, of course, the attacks we are seeing today. so this is not merely about egypt, but rather a comprehensive siege on all sides of the gaza strip, three-quarters of which, of course, are maintained by the israelis. and of course, the part of it that is done in collusion with the israelis by the egyptian military regime. >> and i'm going to give you both of the two sides of statements as of today. the associated press is quoting the head of hamas saying that, quote, gaza has decided to end the blockade by its blood and by its courage. this siege must be lifted. he was actually talking about those closures as well as the military incursions. this is what israeli prime
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minister benjamin netanyahu had to say when he was on with brian williams on the fact that, as he says, israel is not targeting civilians. let's listen. >> they're hiding rockets in hospitals. they're hiding arms in hospitals. they're shooting from hospitals. they just don't care. they break every norm in the book, every rule in the book, admitting triple war crimes. targeting civilians, hiding behind civilians, piling civilians in where they'll be put in harm's way. >> when you balance those two things, the growing humanitarian crisis that is in part of the blockade and part because of the siege and loss of life, how long would prime minister netanyahu be able to maintain that line? that despite the fact you're seeingsee ing ing a lot of civilian deaths, this is not an operation designed to target civilians? how long can netanyahu hold to that line? >> i think there's a realization in israel that there was a turning point yesterday in the very fierce battles in gaza.
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not only in the number of civilian casualties but also the number of idf casualties. we've now reached 25 idfti cas l casualtie casualties. i think the israelis are well aware the international opinion may be turning against them, which may not worry israelis that much. they're used to international opinion being against them. the question is, when will government start turning against them? president obama today continued to express support for the israeli operation, but, one, secretary kerry is now going out, and two, i think you'll see probably within a day or two that european governments are beginning to become more critical of israel. you'll note that the israeli defense minister said yesterday it'll take israel another two, three days to take care of the tunnels. i think what he was signaling is give us another two, three day, and then we can start seriously getting down to talking about a cease-fire. >> and i mean, in another two or three days, you know, untold numbers of potential deaths. this is a situation where the u.n. secretary general has condemned the loss of civilian life and the pictures are so
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arresting and are really just being captivating the world. from the palestinian point of view, what kind of resolution or cease-fire might they be able to seek or might they request in this situation? >> well, simply put, a cease-fire involves the end of violence on both sides, but you cannot achieve that without addressing israeli siege on the gaza strip because the siege itself is a system of violence that is enforced on a regular basis through the use of israeli fire into the gaza strip at fishermen, at farmers, and through extrajudicial assassinations over the course of time. so if we're really talking about an end of violence on both sides and end to fire on both sides, that system of violence has to be addressed. if we do not address that and we do not address the legitimate grievances of palestinians in the gaza strip who are indiscriminately targeted by this siege, then we're only
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creating the incentives for the people there to lash out through the only means available to them. and if those happen to be projectiles or tunnels or what have you, that's what's going to happen. >> this doesn't seem to have an end. this seems to be spiraling completely out of control. it's hard for me to imagine, i think for a lot of americans to imagine there could be a peaceful end. can you imagine that? >> i don't think anybody is thinking about a peaceful end here. maybe we want to go back to a situation where there is no borderline attacks on both directions. of course, history, it depends where you start. you have a completely different narrative. israelis will tell you the siege is there because hamas did not stop firing rockets and stop trying to send terrorists over the border. i think what secretary kerry and the egyptians will be looking for is, one, a cease-fire, and two, some way of guaranteeing israel that there will be a closer adherence to a cease-fire and also giving the palestini s palestinians, hamas even, some straw to latch on to of at least
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a plan or time table of relieving the siege. >> indeed. on top of that, dealing with this ongoing humanitarian crisis of those displaced people. really appreciate you. thanks. and you can hear more of brian williams' interview with israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu tonight on "nbc nightly news." coming up, president obama lays the blame for the malaysia airlines tragedy squarely at the feet of vladimir putin. then, nba all-star chris paul is here to talk about how the league is teaming up with the white house on its initiative to help empower young black men. moderate to severe crohn's disease is tough, but i've managed. ♪ i got to be pretty good at managing my symptoms, except that managing my symptoms was all i was doing. ♪ when i finally told my doctor, he said my crohn's was not under control. ♪ he said humira is for adults like me who have tried other medications but still experience the symptoms of moderate to severe crohn's disease.
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unfortunately, the russian-backed separatists who control the area continue to block the investigation. what exactly are they trying to hide? president putin in particular
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has direct responsibility to compel them to cooperate with the investigation. that is the least that they can do. >> that was president obama speaking from the white house today clearly frustrated and calling on russian president vladimir putin to wield his undisputed influence over separatists who are blocking the investigation of the mh-17 crash site. all sides are waiting to see whether less than an hour from now russia vetoes a formal u.n. security council vote to grant that international access. the vote comes as anger mounts over a crime scene that's been essentially left unsecured over four days. but we miekt have a break in the investigation as the malaysian prime minister just announced rebel leaders were expected to hand over the plane's black box just minutes ago. earlier today, another small amount of progress. dutch forensic officials were finally able to examine the remains of nearly 200 victims now piled inside a refrigerated train. and that train is on the move headed to a ukrainian city where
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bodies are expected to be handed over to authorities from the netherlands. meanwhile, 21 more bodies were recovered from the charred crash site and surrounding fields today. ukraine's prime minister said 272 of the 298 bodies have been retrie retrieved. as outpourings of grief and outrage continue to grow around the world, families are pleading for the bodies of their loved ones to be returned to them. >> i just want them to be human. start thinking of parents. think what would it be like if one of their family. >> they were so beautiful together. i'm just glad they had each other in those moments. >> mr. putin, send my children home. send them home. >> please. >> please. >> steve clemens subpoena the washington editor at large for "the atlantic." he's also an msnbc contributor. when you hear those anguished parents, i can't imagine that this is anything but bad news for vladimir putin, frankly.
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the parents are blaming russia, are blaming vladimir putin for this horrific tragedy. how does vladimir putin continue to evade responsibility for it? >> well, you know, fiona hill at brookings has written a fascinating profile of putin called "mr. putin," in which she argues that as the leader of russia, he's behaving more like a kgb case officer. you see a man who can operate at different levels. as president obama said in his speech today, he welcomed a lot of the words that putin said but almost all the times that putin has said something that looked generous or compassionate, none of his commitments have been matched by deeds. i think that is the problem we have with putin. he's a very, very duplicitous character running a complicated country right now. so when he listens to those anguished souls that are, you know, begging for access to these bodies and their loved ones, i get the sense putin is
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not moved by that. he doesn't operate at that level of emotion. >> and it's almost as if, steve, the russian government is descending to the level of conspiracy theorizing. there are these stories out there that members of the russian government are attempting to float all sorts of conspiracy theories that would deflect blame off of russia and off of these russian separatists on to the ukrainian government. given that level of, you know, just sort of -- just unrealism coming out of moscow, senator diane feinstein had a novel approach to what we might be able to do to bring this back to earth. let's take a listen. >> i think it may well be that the united states should take its solid intelligence, which i believe is solid now, and declassify it. let the world see what went into this and why the belief is so solid that this, in fact, was a russian buk that unleashed this missile. >> is that right, steve? why not have the united states just declassify our considerable intelligence and surveillance of that area and just prove once
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and for all this was russian-backed separatists? >> well, the great thing about diane feinstein is she has access to the secrets and the top-secret security clearance. some of us journal itseists cov this since the plane went down and saw some of the things the ukrainian government released, which were taped phone conversations and eventually photographic evidence of these missiles going across lines, many of us say ukraine doesn't have that capacity. who has that capacity to develop that kind of intelligence? the united states does. while we haven't by saying it, i think it's highly likely the united states has been very coordinated in helping to provide the ukrainians with pictures and sound of what happened. and what diane feinstein is intimating without violating her responsibilities is saying there's stuff out there, that if we just put out there, you know, like we did in the united nations years ago with the cuban missile crisis and just showed
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the world the evidence, that it would be there. so on this, i'm with diane feinstein. >> yeah, and in this case, unlike iraq, this would be backed up by lots of evidence. very quickly, does this finally move the governments in europe to take some action and actually stand up to russia despite russia being their gas station? >> i think it should. you know, they have been diterring a bit and holding back in joining the united states in what right now are unilateral sanctions that we've imposed. the europeans have agreed to not to finance new projects. if this doesn't bring them around, i don't know what will. it's a good opportunity for that. we have to see whether -- because there are costs for us in these sanctions. and there will be costs for the europeans. but i think right now a unified signal to putin that he's on the edge of a very different course for his country where you begin to disentangle the benefits that russia has had from integrating with the west are right at an
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important inflection point. >> yeah, indeed. well said. thanks very much. >> thanks, joy. now three things for you to know this monday. because of new u.s. sanctions on russia, a kalish that kov, the company that makes the ak-47, can no longer do business with the u.s. that means no more ak-47s can be imported. mean while, r.j. reynolds, america's seconding largest tobacco company, is vowing to fight after a florida jury ruled it must pay at least $23 billion in damages to the widow of a long-time smoker who died of lung cancer at age 36. and in detroit, city officials have suspended water shut-offs for 15 days. the deputy director of the water department says the moratorium will give the department time to deal with the bad publicity created by the city's plan. the decision comes as ten people who got their water shut off joined with the national action network to file a lawsuit against the city's crackdown. if i can impart one lesson to a
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it's time for we the tweeple. the stories you can't stop buzzing about on social media. gaza continues to trend on social media. and while you're talking about the tragic stories coming out of the middle east, here's one positive story on your radar. people using the hash tag jus and arabs refuse to be enemies and tweeting out a picture like this, showing a jewish man from israel and an arab from palestinian. the downing of malaysia airlines flight 17 is also trending, including the story of what's got to be one of the luckiest people in the world. dutch athlete martin de young competed for a cycling team. he was supposed to fly on malaysian airlines flight 370, which went missing in march. he was also supposed to fly on mh-17, which was shot down last thursday, but changed that flight too. after the crash he tweeted, had i left today, then -- on his website, he adds this
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disturbing, but i believe it's important to show it. >> don't touch me. >> [ bleep ]. >> i can't breathe! i can't breathe. >> garner went into cardiac arrest and died after being placed in that apparent choke hold as part of a pending internal affairs investigation two officers have been placed on modified duty. and today the new york fire department announced that two emts have been placed on restricted duty. meanwhile in michigan today, jury selection is under way in the trial of 55-year-old theodore wafer, a deerborn heights man who is charged with fatally shooting 19-year-old renish amc bride in the face when she knocked on his door last year looking for help after a car accident. two cases both drawing widespread allegations of implicit racial bias on the part of both civilians and police. joining me now to discuss both of these cases, a former prosecutor and criminal defense attorney and lisa bloom,
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attorney and analyst for the "today" show and the author of "suspicion nation," which revisits the legal case in the death of trayvon martin. i want to start with the garner case. i'll start with you, lisa. you have a case here of a man who was being arrested or being, you know, discussed with police because he was selling cigarettes illegally, allegedly. but then you have a case on tape of somebody who is saying, i can't breathe, who has asthma and who is then -- he dies after that choke hold. but i think a lot of people in new york would still be dubious that this is going to result in arrests or prosecutions of these officers. are people right to be dubious? >> well, it's absolutely outrageous and sickening. you can see there, thank goodness we have this videotape. there's no excuse for putting a choke hold on eric garner. choke holds are illegal under nypd rules and law and there's absolutely no excuse for it. why is this man being choked? you have five police officers who are perfectly capable of cuffing him, if that's even appropriate. remember, as you say, this all
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stems from selling single cigarettes. are you kidding me? it's not like he has an automatic weapon and is threatening someone and this kind of force is necessary. it's absolutely not justified. >> and seema, i want to play you what mayor bill de blasio had to say about this incident. let's take a listen. >> like so many new yorkers, i was very troubled by the video i reviewed earlier today. i have instructed commissioner bratton to ensure it will be a full and thorough investigation of this incident. >> and i should note the union that represents this officer, the pba, has issued a response to his being suspended saying, the department's modification of this police officer under these circumstances is a completely unwarranted knee-jerk reaction for political reasons and nothing more. is this case political, or is this a case of seemingly an outrageous violation of human rights? >> i'm glad you brought up the politics. frankly, whatever mayor de blasio said, who is my mayor,
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that's a joke. this happens every day. if it wasn't on video or if he didn't die, we wouldn't be here. if you go to the civilian complaint review board, excessive force claims are made every day. i have clients being strip searched and frankly molested during the day in the middle of their neighborhoods with hundreds of people watching. and this goes back to giving boys who are uneducated and untrained badges and guns. and they do not know how to behave in terms of arresting people, but they also don't understand simple concepts like narcotics or how to handle the mentally ill or what the fourth amendment is or search and seizure. >> i'll go to you on this one as well, lisa. isn't there training given to officers in dealing with arrests? obviously these are not people who go out without having been to a police academy and taught to use force. is it true that these officers simply don't know how to deal with people in this situation? >> well, it's both.
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of course they are trained, and they're supposed to use force appropriate to the situation. so it's always a fact-specific inquiry. here we have a man who has no weapon, who's not threatening anyone, as we can see in the video. at most he's putting his hands up and objecting verbally. yes, they can take him to the ground, i suppose, and cuff him. but when a man is screaming out, i can't breathe, that's a clear indication you should stop choking him. i don't think there's much defense here for these officers. >> one of the things that's brought up in this case is this notion of implicit racial bias and the way it affects policing but also the way it affects the way civilians deal with one another. you have this case of renish amc bride going to trial now in which this young woman has a car accident, alcohol may or may not have been involved, but she knocks on the door of a stranger and is shot in the face and killed. talk about racial bias and implicit bias playing into that case. >> this is so important. we see these cases one by one on the news. we don't see the common links.
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those are this idea of implicit racial bias. most of us think we have no racial bias. we are not racist. yet, over and over again when we assess black behaviors versus white behaviors, we tend to see the black behaviors as more hostile, more threatening, and scarier. there's a whole mountain of psychological studies to substantiate that. when there's a white face and a black face posed in the same position, people of all races see the black face as scarier, as hostile, as more threatening. i think that underlies the mcbride case, the garner case, the trayvon martin case, and so many others. at root, we have to get past all of our implicit racial biases. >> joy, here we go. i think everybody's racist. that is what i think. however, in this mcbride case, i do not believe this was a result of racial profiling. i actually believe it was a very unfortunate accident. i support the defense's theory that it was self-defense. ms. mcbride, i just want to point out, the autopsy shows that her blood alcohol content
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was 0.22, three times the legal limit in michigan. and joy, that's the autopsy. that was taken hours after she was driving that car. so it is reasonable to assume that car accident occurred because she was drinking. >> but i have to get lisa in here. the question is, if somebody who may seem inebriated that comes to your door, would this have resulted in the same thing? >> she didn't come to the door. there's no proof that he even saw whether she was black, brown, white, or pink. >> lisa? >> he says on the 911 call that she was pounding on the door. he shoots through a locked door. so whether she's inebriated or not, how can he be in fear of his life? >> it's 4:30 in the morning. who's knocking on your door? >> how is she going to break into the house? >> in a high-crime area. >> i wish we had more time. we're going to have to have you both on to talk about it again. >> lisa and i are a good team. >> always a pleasure. thank you. up next, nba all-star chris
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pledged to my brother's keeper by mostly private entities toward the goal of helping all at-risk young men of color succeed. today at the walker jones educational campus in washington, d.c., the president announced an additional $104 million of investment in my brother's keeper by nonprofits and corporations like at&t and the national basketball association. and he said this. >> my brother's keeper isn't some new big government program. it's actually a team effort. it's all about a whole bunch of folks. effe educators, business leaders, faith leaders, foundations, government all working together to give boys and young men of color the tools that they need to succeed and make sure that every young person can reach their potential. >> and joining me now is nba all-star chris paul, who was at today's event. chris, thank you for being here, first of all. >> thanks for having me, joy.
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>> all right. talk a little bit about what the nba plans to do to be a part of my brother's keeper. >> first, the nba and the nba players association, we're all working with the white house staff and the president on my brother's keeper initiative. it's all about empowering our young men of color and showing them people do truly care about them and there's more to life than just athletics, whether it may be teaching, politics, or whatever it may be. >> and just to talk a little bit about the statistics, you have 40% of students expelled from u.s. schools each year who are african-american. you have 70% of students who are involved in-school arrests who are referred to law enforcement are also black or latino. black or latino students are twice as likely to not graduate from high school. less than half of native american students having access to full range of math and science classes. you have black and latino
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students attending schools with less experienced teachers. how can basketball stars and corporate leaders do anything about that? you've talked about your own foundation work and trying to reach young men, but what can be done by people like yourself to combat those specific things? >> you know, after what you just said, the statistics tell a story in itself. for me being a young black man of color and being a father of a young black man of color who's going to be growing up, people in my situation, we do have a voice. you know, we do have a voice. that voice can be heard. today was all about the launch of this initiative and showing that we're going to go out and make an impact. but the real work is done in the communities and actually getting out there and everybody doing their part. for me, it's all about teaching the young men that, you know, you can be somebody. it doesn't have to be an athlete. doesn't have to be a rapper,
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anything like that. you can be anything you want to be, and you're going to have a number of men and women behind you that are supporting you. >> i should note that doing these kinds of efforts, these interventions takes effort. in addition to the nba, we have at&t getting on board, the citi foundation, the emerson collective. what does it mean to you to see these corporations stepping forward, and does it tell you anything that corporations and private enty itties have to do it and the federal government itself isn't doing this? >> it means a lot. it means a lot. you know, the impact you can have is something that is unimaginable. i think, obviously, like you said, the money matters. you definitely have to have dollars in order to get things rolling and implement it. but for, you know, athletes, celebrities, stars, whoever it may be, i think the most valuable thing you have is time. so actually getting out there and showing these kids, giving them your time and your full, undivided attention is really
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what they need also. >> chris, what do you make of some of the criticism that my brother's keeper only focuses on boys and not girls and it's only temporary? once president obama leaves office t can just go away. >> you can heard the statistics. we're hoping this is not something that just goes away. you know, everyone is trying to do as much as they can, and it starts here and it starts now. but it's for all our youth also. >> so you think girls should be included? >> i think girls should be included? oh, yeah. this right here, this initiative is all about the young black men. not just black men, but men of color. >> i'm tempted because you are an l.a. clipper to ask you about that situation, but i'm not going to do that. i really appreciate you being here, chris paul. thank you very much. >> joy, thank you so much for having me. >> president obama meanwhile has signed a new executive order to protect gay, lesbian, bisexual
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remember back on july 10th when texas governor rick perry said this about what president obama could do to stem the humanitarian crisis on the u.s. southern border? >> he can pick up the phone to the dod and have 1,000 national guard troops temporarily assigned to the border, and the message gets sent to central america very quickly. >> well, actually, it's a little more complicated than that. the president would need an act of congress to deploy the national guard to the border. but you know, details. at the time, i had pointed out that governor perry, as commander in chief of the texas national guard, could just call up the national guard himself. well, minutes from now, rick perry will do just that. the deployment will cost texas
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taxpayers a cool $12 million a month on top of the $1.3 million a week they're paying for a surge of public safety officers already at the border because, you know, fiscal responsibility. at least one elected official representing the rio grande valley, a vietnam war veteran and attorney, opposes the deployment, telling "the houston chronicle" on sunday, my position is we do not need to militaryize the border. oh, but you're not seeing the big picture. because for rick perry, who's re-entered the 2016 presidential primary conversation because of the border humanitarian crisis and with republicans and tea partiers one-upping each other to be the most harsh toward the women and children fleeing central america, militarizing the border is exactly what's called for. especially with potentially 2016 competition texas senator ted cruz freshly shorn of his canadian dual citizenship out
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there calling not just for the deportation of all the children but also the kids granted reprieve by president obama under a presidential version of the dream act. given that, rick perry needs all the tough guy at the border photo ops he can get. never mind that under the law, the troops can't actually arrest anyone. and according to an internal memo, the deployment isn't even for the immigrant influx and is instead focused on drug trafficking. back on july 13th, i think governor perry explained what's really going on here best. >> let me ask you, governor, first of all, about the call you and others have made to send the national guard down to the border. what exactly would national guardsmen and women do on the border? >> well, we called some four years ago for 1,000 national guard troops to temporarily go to the border so that they could help push forward that show of force, if you will.
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and they're there for a limited period of time, until you have the opportunity to train up some 3,000 more border patrol agents that would go and replace them. >> but if you strung them out along the border, national guardsmen and women, they're not under the law allowed to apprehend any of these children that are crossing, are they? >> well, the issue is with being able to send that message. because it's the visual of it that i think is the most important. >> yes, the visual. and that wraps things up for "the reid report." i'll see you back here tomorrow at 2:00 p.m. eastern. be sure to visit us online at thereidreport.msnbc.com. now here comes a visual i really like. "the cycle" comes up next with coverage of the white house medal of honor ceremony with army staff sergeant ryan pitts. the cadillac summer collection is here.
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welcome. you're in the cycle on a busy monday afternoon. right now, secretary of state john kerry is in egypt as the israeli invasion inside gaza intensifies. the death toll has now surpassed 550 palestinians and more than two dozen israeli soldiers, including two with dual u.s. citizenship. international outrage intensifies as pro-russian rebels allow dutch teams to move crash victims' remains out, but they're still keeping investigators from getting to the wreckage. the u.n. security council is meeting this hour. it's expected to demand the armed rebels stop compromising that crash site. right now at the white house, 28-year-old staff sergeant ryan pitts is preparing to receive the military's highest
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recognition, the medal of honor, for conspicuous gallantry. president obama is due on stage any moment now. pitts is, of course, the ninth living iraq or afghan war veteran to receive this honor. six years ago this month, pitts' battalion kept insurgents from overtaking a key american post in wanat, afghanistan. as gunfire erupted, pitts was hit by shrapnel. for the next hour and a half, he crawled from position to position firing machine guns and tossing grenades. he got to a working radio and provided crucial feedback for reinforcements. the u.s. lost nine soldiers that day. msnbc military analyst colonel jack jacobs is a med doll of honor recipient, and he sat down with pitts and his wife to talk about the honor. >> anything different about that night? >> hindsight is 20/20. >> it certainly is. >> the only thing i remember being different was that morning. we had generally been seeing
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people move out to the fields, to work the fields early in the morning. that morning they weren't. >> how soon after the attack began were you wounded yourself? >> it was in the initial barrage of rpgs and hand grenades that i was wounded. there wasn't really any pain, but i knew i had been hurt pretty bad because i tried to move my legs and couldn't move my feet at all. my biggest concern in the moment was just trying to gain my bearings. i had kind of been shell shocked a little bit. i had been hit on my inner thigh with a piece of shrapnel, and i knew there was a major blood vessel in there. my left arm was injured a little bit as well. >> you're very badly wounded. you're surrounded. it's not going well. did you think you would survive? >> it didn't really enter my mind until i was by myself for a little bit at the o.p. that was about the only time i thought i was going to die. >> yet you carried on.