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a hand over of crucial evidence for malaysian airlines flight 17 and now the hand over of bodies from the downed 777. we'll drill down on putin and his next move. washington wild fire. the inferno continues to burn. could today provide an opening to contain the massive fire fight? a live west coast report this tuesday, 22nd of july. good morning. live today outside the los angeles convention center. let's get right to our first focus. more violence and no ceasefire in sight in gaza where the death toll continues to pile up. a secretary of state john kerry pushes for a ceasefire in high level talks in cairo. overnight palestinian officials say 15 people were killed in a new round of israeli air strikes aimed at hamas militants. and israeli military officials released these video.
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it claims showing hamas members usinge ing ing a ambulance with. they use ambulance and homes to shield the militants. secretary kerry has been meeting with egyptian leaders in an attempt to broker an end to the hostility. nbc martin fletcher joins us from tel-aviv this morning. thank you. it sounds like for a lot of people, this is becoming a living hell >>well, it is, jose. in gaza it is a living hell. there's no doubt about that. israelis have been shelling for two weeks aiming at targeting with, they say from which hamas is firing rockets at israel. and claiming that they are mostly in urban built up areas. israel hit five mosques, they hit a school, they hit a sports complex. they hit homes. all of those targets, israel is not hitting for the fun of it. they say that they're rocket
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launchers in or on the edge of those places. and all the civilians in the area, of course, paying the price for that. so you have now a bit of a 600th palestinian dead. about -- more than half the people in zba have no access to clean water. they're running out of food. and the phrase you used living hell sums up the situation for palestinians in gaza. not the same, i have to say, here in israel. the people are pretty much protected by the iron dome anti-rocket system. since israel's invasion into gaza which is in the fifth day, there's been fewer and fewer rockets every day into israel. and the shorter range rockets as well. israel is pretty much living life as they did before and responding only to the rocket sirens when they go off. but i've got to say, there's a real impact on israel's economy. this is the tourist season, which israel depends greatly on. the tourism business.
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a huge number of cancellations here it hit the economy hard. that's more pleasant than for the people in gaza. >> and israel is saying they're finding more and more tunnels used for nefarious things, you're saying. >> that's right. that's what the israelis say the first goal of the operation is fop to find and destroy the tunnels that the palestinians have dug from israel to gaza. they found about 15 tunnels with about 50 entrances. each tunnel has more than one ens trance. the tunnels, hamas, despite the pressure they are using the tunnels even today, yesterday, and the day before to infiltrate into israel and attack. the israelis, you know, one of the tunnels came out inside on the steps of the dining room. it was a threat to israel civilian population. and yesterday there was a group
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of palestinians that came out ready to attack two civilian settlements. israel attacked them and killed them. that's how real the threat is in israel let alone the threat to those inside gaza. >> nbc martin fletcher. thank you so much pchl. we're hearing from the 15-year-old florida teen who claims the israeli police beat him up. tariq is back in the usa after visiting palestinian relatives. he told chris hayes he was seized by authority during the protest and beaten to the ground. >> and then they kept kicking me in the face and i kept screaming at them while they were kicking me and punching me. they kicked me in the ribs. while they were beating me, i couldn't have a chance to move, because they zip tied my arms together. and then they started beating me. >> one of the many faces that are cut up in this conflict. now to the conflict over malaysian airlines flight 17 and the five days after a missile
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strike took down the commercial 777 in war-torn eastern ukraine. the bodies have been moved to a safer region in ukraine. they'll eventually taken to the netherlands for a forensic identification. the bodies were allowed to leave eastern ukraine after the malaysian government reached a deal with pro-russian rebels. and handed over the flight black boxes. nbc joins me on the phone from ukraine. good morning, tell us about the negotiations to turn over the bodies and black boxes. >> caller: good morning, jose. pretty extraordinary. we've learned that the malaysian prime minister phoned the leader of the pro-russian rebels here, at least one direct conversation. so the malaysian prime minister leading the negotiations from the front determined to get it done because the outrage among his own public. what we've seen is those black boxes handed over.
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the bodies of the victims taken away in that train, and, by the way, jose, we expect them to be flown pretty quickly in a c 130 from this region to the netherlands. they are now, we're told, in a safe place. those two deals and we saw a crash scene investigation. malaysians arriving here as they begin the investigation. so quite a cue, if you like. and at the same time, quite extraordinary because i'm told that the state department moving forward that a deal has been done just around the time that the president obama was making his address yesterday. it's not clear whether or not washington had been told that this -- if you like, back room diplomacy were taking place at all up until that stage. >> nbc simmons, thank you so much for the live report. as the investigation
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continues european foreign governments are meeting in brussels to consider new sanctions aimed precisely at russia. putin and russian officials continue to deny any involvement in the downing of that flight. continuing to put blame on ukraine. >> it is very clear that ukrainian jet fighter was in the area at the same time, the same place. >> state controlled tv in russia suggests the ukrainian military shot down the passenger jet. mistaking it for president putin's own plane. russian television put forth the conspiracy theory that the plane was full of corpses and taken down by the u.s. in an attempt to start a war with russia. u.s. calls those claims nonsense. i'm joined by a professor of international affairs program at new school university. by the way, also the great granddaughter of nikita crew
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shuf. what do you make of the conspiracy theories put forward by the russian government and the media? >> they're deflektding theories. russia not going to accept responsibility. i think expecting that russia would is a very optimistic and almost idealistic. the conspiracy theories are to give russia leeway into really blaming ukraine at all times, or saying that russia, even if ukraine is not guilty, russia has very little relations with east ukrainian separatists. this is not so much a conspiracy theories but alternative explanation of what happened in ukraine with a plane and therefore -- they're about ten of them, and we cannot list all of them. one of them was the most -- i
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find very important. and interesting is that ukrainians were after putin's plane that was flying from brazil at the time, and that's what they wanted to shoot down. but instead shot down the commercial plane. so these are theories in order to explain a way that russia has nothing to do with that. what is the next step for putin? i think it depends on brussels. and i really encourage the world not instead of having how to curtail putin and what to do if he doesn't budge actually make him budge. because he obviously is thinking how much he can push the international community with inaction of or little action while he himself denies any responsibility for inciting that conflict in east ukraine. the sanctions, i think, is an important next step. and europe really, at this point we've been talking about
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roberts at msnbc. we want to get the battle for the clippers and a curfew in a major city. let's zoom through some of today's top stories. georgia voters are heading back to the polls today. they are voting in the georgia senate runoff between congressman jack king ston and dollar general ceo purdue. he lead the field of candidates in the may primary. the winner will face michelle nun in november. robert mcdonald will appear before the senate veterans's committee as he looks to get confirmed. he was picked to concede former secretary eric shen --. donald sterling call perspective buyer steve balmer to the beverly hills home in order to try to reach a settlement over ownership of the team. the meeting was described as
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amicable. shelly sterling trying to sell the clippers for $2 billion after having two doctors declare her husband mentally incapacitied. she's expected on the stand today along with the team's interim ceo. next month some of the most restrictive curfew goes into effect in baltimore. critics weighed in calling the plan virtual house arrest. the law is intended to keep kids safe from gang and drug violence. teens under the age of 14 have to be off the streets by 9:00 p.m. and 14 to 16-year-olds have to be home by 10:00 on the weeknights and 11 on weekends. parents could be fined up to $500. their kids are caught out late past curfew. lower winds and cooler temperatures could help firefighters battling the biggest fire in washington state east history today. it's wiped out nearly 400 square
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miles. the mayor vowed not give up. >> i just want you all to know that we, as a community, are going to pull together and make this town even better. [ applause ] >> nbc jacob raskin has been following the fires. he joins us from washington. you've been talking to at lot of families there. explain, first, where are they staying? and then what is for them to do to try to rebuild the community? >> yeah, there are hundreds of them still. they're staying in evacuation centers set up throughout the county from churches to high schools. we spoke to the mayor, in fact, we talk talked to her. we didn't know she was the mayor walking around the rubble of her home getting emotional and realizing she was the mayor of the town with only 600 people but a huge task to now be a homeless person and also have the job of care for the town. besides going through the rubble, what people are doing,
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really, is talking to their insurance companies hoping they are covered. most of the people we talked to are having good luck there. and then they're praying together, they're talking together. we have some reaching out and give dog nation ing donations o snacks, and foods. >> let's talk about mother nature. we talked about weather and how it could help firefighters. there's a lightning watch forecasters are predicting for the next couple of days. how concerned are the firefighters about the possibility of new fires being i think nigignited. >> the initial fire here is four fires that merged into one. all were started by lightning. right now in the past hour, in fact, it started to rain here. there's a 20 -- 30% chance throughout the day. tomorrow there's a chance of thunderstorms. whenever so you a massive burn area, we're talking about nearly 400 square miles, it's a big concern for flash flooding. because you have the hills, the
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push for a ceasefire. republican senator lindsey graham criticized kerry and the obama administration's middle east policy on sunday on meet the press. america is the glue that hold the free world together. leading from behind is not working. the world is adriftd, and president obama has become the king of indecision. his policies are failing across the globe. they will come here soon. >> i want to get the view from the hill. we bring in california democratic congresswoman loretta sanchez. a ranking member of the house armed services committee. congresswoman, thank you for being with us. what is your reaction to secretary kerry actually going to egypt? what could you think he could accomplish? >> well, it's always a lot less expensive if we don't go to war or others don't go to war and we use diplomacy, jose, to fix some of the issues. i applaud secretary kerry for going over there for working with the new president of egypt
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to see if he has any influence with respect to hamas there and gaza and try to resolve this conflict. at least get a ceasefire while we can get the people to the table so they can discuss this before they continue to kill each other. >> yeah, you know, the last ceasefire attempted by egypt really went nowhere and the israeli justice minister is saying there's no really no real options for ceasefires right now. i'm wondering is there anything the world can do. it can't be that we can standby and see this living hell, as martin was talking about in the last segment, continue with no end in sight >>well, you know, i have a stepdaughter and a grandson in tel-av tel-aviv. this is a, you know, very emotional thing. when you see these rockets raining in. we need to get it under control. you know, this is about israel. it's about hamas.
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and we need to get them to the table to talk to each other. and that's unfortunately been the difficult piece. as much diplomacy as we can. as much incentives as we can before we take a look at this spilling over into not just there into so many other places. >> congresswoman, i want to take you to the immigration crisis that is hit not only the border but really the country at large. speaker boehner is going to outline a border legislation proposal that will ask for changes to the 2008 law, but not necessarily deal with giving the president the $3.7 billion he's been asking for. what do you think should happen? this bill is insit too. it was signed by president bush. should there be changes to that? >> certainly even the current president asked for changes. he's asked for in addition to monies to put in judges, to put in people, to put in detention
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centers for young people. he's asked to try to amplify the process, by law, which president bush signed in 2008. by law the judicial proceeding that these young children get. he's asked for that. he's asked it to go faster than the six or 700 days that it now takes. there's an incentive, i think, from the republican side to try to get some of the money in and try to do this. of course, what they want to do is just to immediately deport everybody. i don't see democrats as a minority in the house voting for that. nor do i see that as having an easy venue through the senate. we may be stuck here for awhile. >> governor perry announce his plan, as you know, to send a thousand national guard troops to the border. here is what his lieutenant governor, speaking on the plan, within the last hour, had to say. >> no focussed on the unaccompanied children. that's a humanitarian problem
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which can be solved this afternoon by congress getting off their duff and passing the cornyn bill or the administration saying enough. >> is he making a good point? i mean, is it time for washington to step up further? >> well, let me remind people that the number of children unaccompanied coming across from these central american countries is actually slowing down. we estimate at this point there's about 100 day. there were 5 or 6 fold of that. some of the things that the president has done are working over there to let families know that these children are not to come, et. cetera. but this is a standing law. it is about taking care of children. there's a purpose for it. so i don't see the congress really wanting to change that. with respect to the national guard, i sit on the armed services committee, i sit on the homeland security committee. senior member of both. the last thing we want to do is
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put armed troops on the border. that is not the purpose of our military. we have increased our border patrol. we have gone from about 5,000 people just right after 9/11 to about 23,000 today. many of them focussed on the border, or shifting the resources there to the texas part, we're apprehending people. they're not getting through. we're apprehending them. we need to figure out who they are, whether we send them back, we need to figure out whether they stay here because of civil strife in their own countries. >> now, congresswoman, it's very important to make a distinction. they're being caught because they're handing themselves in after crossing the border. the question is the border really safe? >> the border is secure. remember, what you're talking about the main place where they're crossing, jose, is a waterway. it's a waterway. i mean, what do you want us to do? build a wall in the middle of a
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river? so instead of putting a wall there, we have opted to put sensors, law enforcement, people who can be there and apprehend people. the problem is, usually what we do with adults, for example, we take them and put them in holding cells. we figure out who they are. and we do send them back to their countries. with children, it's a difficult manner. we have to hold them, we have to ask them what happened. you have to be careful with children. especially because there's been a lot of sex trafficking of these children. that's why the law was signed in 2008 to treat these children differently than adults. >> california congresswoman loretta sanchez, thank you for being with us this morning. >> thank you. there is something i can't stress enough. the broadcast is for you. for all of you. you know, i'm honored to be hearing from so many of you and getting so many different perspectives with texas governor rick perry announcing his
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solution to the crisis, send the national guard to the border. i asked you, what was your solution? and i'm going to tell you, i can't thank you enough. you've all come through with, well, a lot of suggestions. both on twitter and our facebook page. and i wanted to read a few of them. i think they represent some of the conflicting opinions there are about the issue. penny writes, there's more than enough families in america that would be willing to and even love most fostering or adopting the immigrants. they are refugees from problems we had at least something to do with. we introduced you to parents who want to adopt some of children. but it is at odds with the way many other americans are feeling. for example, john holiday writes, he says -- let me go to exactly what he said. it's representative of a lot of people are writing. without a secure border we're not a country. the people, regardless of their age, amassed on the southern
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border, are attempting to enter the country illegally. and that deprives them of a status of a refugee. that tension? that conflict that is exactly why this conversation and your opinion is so important. this is an ongoing conversation. again, i want to put it on your hands. what is your solution to this crisis? you can tell me on our website jo jose.msnbc.com. and facebook, twitter, instagram. i want to hear from all of you. after the break, is it time for a few fresh faces in california politics? who are the new golden boys or girls? we'll be right back. when la quinta.com sends sales rep steve hatfield the ready for you alert, the second his room is ready. you know what he brings? any questions? can i get an a, steve? yes! three a's! he brings his a-game! the ready for you alert, only at laquinta.com!
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setback to obamacare. let's get to pete williams. good morning. tell us >>well, it sounds like a technical issue, but it's one that has very practical implications. this was a lawsuit over the part of the law. an irs rule involving the different exchanges. here is the issue. states were allowed to set up their own exchanges to get health insurance for those who didn't have it through their employer. but roughly 34 states decided not to do that. so instead you can buy insurance on the federal exchange better known as healthcare.gov. the issue is this, the irs gives a tax break for state exchanges. meaning if you can't afford the insurance, the federal government basically subsidizes it through tax credits. and the irs said that same rule should apply to the federal exchanges, but the court ruled today that you can't read the law that way. that the irs benefits, the tax credit, the subsidize cannot
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apply in the federal exchanges. that's a big blow to potentially big blow to people who pie their insurance on the federal exchanges. the court said in the opinion that the conclusioning is interesting. we reached the conclusion with reluctance. at least until states that wish to can set up exchanges our ruling will likely have significant consequences both for the millions of people who get tax credits through federal exchanges and for health insurance markets more broadly. but basically they say it's for congress to fix this not the court. obviously, the federal government will appeal this to the supreme court, which undoubtedly will have the last word on this, but this is a real blow to obamacare. >> nbc pete williams, thank you for the live update. let's talk politics. president obama is heading back here to los angeles tomorrow as part of another fundraising trip where he hopes the golden state will help him rake in some cash
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for democrats. but politico is suggesting that golden states long time political leaders might be ripe for a california political earthquake. let's note governor jerry brown was running for re-election is 76 years old. senator barbara boxer is 73. senator diane feinstein is 81. and minority leader nancy pelosi is 74. let's bring in politico alexander burns who wrote the article. thank you so much. alexander, how soon could the shift actually occur? who are the players that could maybe lead it? >> well, jose, i think as soon as as 2016 you'll start to see people talking about whether senator boxer might decide to give up the seat. she hasn't made her intentions clear. you have a younger generation of california politicians. the state attorney general and the lieutenant governor. some folks who have been running for decade or more to run like
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former mayor. as soon as there's a chance to move up you'll see intense jockeying quickly. california is, as you said a land before time when it comes to their statewide elected officials. >> and robin, nancy pelosi was on morning joe this morning, and she continued to even say that while the house can go back to a democratic hands -- let's listen to what she had to say. >> okay. >> this is a very odd year that all assumptions that people have made about in ano off year of te presidential's party are stale and obsolete. have no doubt we'll win enough seats. you can't add by sub strakt i tract -- subtracting. we have hold seats we have. >> she won in 2012. is there a shift underway? >> you know, i find that really reassuring that the ageing
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politicians seem in no danger of going anywhere. and we live in a culture in california where youth is king. and yet you have people who are in their 70s and 80s, including our governor, you know, making -- >> running for re-election. >> who is running for re-election. and will probably win. these people are not going anywhere. and yes, there's a younger generation coming up behind them jockeying, but these people aren't going anywhere for now. they're doing great work. everybody supports them. they win by big margins. >> interesting thought. one of the things you talk about in your article is how california's political leadership seems out of line with the state. not only in age but demographics. for example, according to the united states census bureau, california's latino population is double than the rest of the country. 38.4%. while the asian population is nearly triple with 14.1%. is this something that leaders are concerned about they may, in the future, may a state they're not reflecting in the leadership? >> well, i think the answer
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particularly for democrats. there are no statewide office holders who are republicans in california. that the democrgraphic politicis represent the interest of their constituents. as long as the constituents strong a problem, i think the racial demographics is not an issue here. >> that's interesting. the numbers are pretty important. what do you think? >> i think robin makes a good point. you don't hear clam moring on the left senator feinstein hasn't been serving the interest of the asian-american community. these are buy and large progressive senators and progressive governor in jerry brown representing their constituents, but that's why when either one of the senators decides to move on or jerry brown runs up against some kind of term limit or reality of ageing, you are, i think, going to hear interest groups and constituents and politicians
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waiting a long time step up and say we're the most diverse and biggest democratic state in the country. shouldn't our leaders look like it? >> alexander burns and robin, thank you for being with us this morning. now to the humanitarian crisis on the border. having an impact here in california and across the country. here in los angeles, young activists are fasting for a week trying to draw attention to the crisis and specifically the central american kids arriving in the u.s. meanwhile, in texas governor rick perry announcing he's sending a thousand national guardsmen to the border. says he's tired of waiting for others to come up with a solution. i will not stand idly by where our citizens are under assault and little children from central america are detained in call alrea squalor. we are too good of a country for that to occur. for some border sheriffs, that's not really the solution. they are pushing back on the
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plan. they say said national guardsmen don't have the authority to detain anyone. one said i don't know what good you can do. you can't come out here and be a police. the white house is announcing a supposed drop in the number of kids crossing the border. a drop of an average more than half based on preliminary data. the question remains, well, where do we houses the kids as they continue four? maryland governor, martin o'malley holding a meeting with a group of faith leaders yesterday on that issue disagreeing with the white house and their plan to create large housing centers and favoring forecast foster homes. senator rand paul is entering the conversation. paul in a statement saying i have a great deal of sympathy for people who seek the american dream, we cannot have open, lawless borders. the children should be fed, clothed, and returned to their country of origin. let me bring someone active on
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the ground in los angeles the director of the coalition for humane immigrant rights in los angeles. thank you for being with us. >> thank you. >> what is it we should be doing? >> is this is a humanitarian crisis and it needs a humanitarian way of addressing it. we welcome -- our city saying we need to take the children, house them, let's figure out the situation on the ground. let's dress the issues in their home countries. let's treat them as human beings first. let them go through the due process. >> one of the issues i hear a lot on different sites that i read is that, listen, we can't just as a country take in unlimited amount of people. if you call people in central america, you get a large percentage of the populations that see they may want to come to the united states one way or another to get a better future for themselves. how do we deal with that? >> i think there's steps being
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taken in address the root causes of why folks are leaving. we've had some of the state senators and assembly members who visited, and it's interesting to see how in addressing this how can we figure out how do we fix the situation on the ground in the home country in order to prevent folks from leaving. >> and the united states has been giving billions to countries in central america and paying people here, sending money back to their countries of origin. they're getting billions of dollars. isn't that enough? where does the money go? >> yeah. and also, during the past couple of years we've had the secure communities program who deported a lot of criminals into their home countries. how do you address the folks coming back? you have to -- if this is a whole new thing and it's starting to create instability in these countries. i have to address it. you know, we know there's money being spent back. that's right. we spent back a lot of folks that are not good people that created --
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agents wide discretion to select their target. allison is part of the team of lawyers challenging the operations. thank you for being with us. what is the problem here? >> thank you, jose. the problem is that the u.s. government and federal prosecutors' offices around the country are conducting these controversial operations called, as you said stash house robbery cases. the way the crime works -- it's unusual. the government both creates the crime and then chooses who is going to commit the crime. and as you said, the people they are choosing are overwhelmingly people of color. let me explain how the cases work. what happens is, a considerable informant, usually someone working for the atf, the bureau of alcohol, tobacco, and firearms approaches somebody, i'll call the target, and the informant tellins the target th story, which the target believes and says i know of a drug warehouse we can rob.
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and proposes they go and rob this stash house, which as you said, often is said to contain hundreds of thousand of dollars worth of drugs and is said to be heavily guarded. well, this warehouse doesn't exist. the drugs adopt exist. the guards don't exist. and yet the informant and often under cover agent working for the atf tells the target, you know, you should bring along guns and friends. the target then frequently obliges, shows up at the appointed time and everyone there is arrest the. when they're arrested, jose, they're charged with incredibly serious crimes. federal drug crimes, gun crimes, carrying mandatory minimums of 10 years, 15 years, 25 years. there are people serving life in prison for these government-created crimes. and, you know, the government doesn't just create the crime, it also creates the time here. the government actually can set
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the penalties by just saying how much the amount of drugs that'll be in that stash house. >> allison, let me read you what the atf said. race plays no part in this. they go after the worst of the worst. in a statement, the agency told us this undercover strategy involves a re s arresting some country's most violent offenders in express an interest in carrying out horrible crimes. are these indeed the worst of the worst? >> jose, they really are not. at least from the evidence i've seen. many of these people are nowhere near the worst of the worst. they're low-level people they're deeply living in deep poverty. they're very susceptible to this kind of targeting. i want to respond to the issue about race disparities. the race disparities raises concerns that the government is selects its targets on the basis
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of race. you can't say it's just people of different races are committing different crimes of different race. the government is creating the crime. the government is choosing who is going to commit it. to give you an example what we're litigating in chicago, in chicago they've charged almost 100 of these cases in the last eight years, and if you look at the racial break down of the people charged in these cases, it's dramatically different than the racial break down of the population as a whole or even the racial break down of people who have been convicted of serious felonies. i mean, we're talking about -- yes? we're talking about -- >> allison -- >> yeah? >> i'm sorry. we're coming up against a break. i want to thank you for being with us this morning. we'll certainly continue to monitor this situation. i appreciate your time. coming up, what the olympics, the dnc, and
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