let me get your reaction to the latest information that two jets were apparently also blown out of the sky today. >> yeah. well, this is an active air combat zone. you know, the ukrainian government is using fighter bombers to attack the separatists rebels, and there are daily attacks. and the separatists have some very sophisticate ed weapons to defend themselves. it seems almost transparent it's going to remain an area of intense danger to any commercial aviation. >> you know it also -- it seems like, you know, the world's reaction, the horrific scenes that we've been seeing, and the pressure that really the world has been placing on putin and others really is, you know, it's falling on deaf ears. >>well, you know, chuck talked about a ridiculous war in the ukraine. these are incredibly intense

emotions. i've been in and out of the ukraine, the eastern part of the country sees itself as russian speaking people. they're still tied to the great patriotic war and the yukrainia nationalists were on the side. it has historical and deep seat the ethnic rooths. it's not going to be over any time soon. the region will be a major ground battle if the ukrainian government even tries to regain a true military force. >> general, i'm going to ask you to standed by as well as our guests this morning. as we witness these scenes live in the netherlands. it's a military base, so a lot of the folks that lost their lives, of course, weren't military. they were all pretty much civilians. in is just because it's at the military base the military is really in charge of the whole ceremony of the arrival of these bodies. but as you've been seeing, i mean, the king and the queen of

the netherlands are there, some of the family members of the victims are there. and you want to put a face to this, because the netherlands has taken an extraordinarily painful hit as a country, as a nation. and i just want to -- as we see these images, i want to take you some of the things we've been hearing and seeing from family members that lost a loved one. for example, an australian couple who lost all three children and their grandfather in the crash. and this is what they wrote. they said, we live in a hell beyond hell. our babies -- there you see them. are not here with us. we need to live with this act of horror every day and every moment for the rest of our lives. no one deserves what we're going through. not even the people who shot our whole family out the sky. no hate in the world is as strong as the love we have for

our children. for oden, evie, otis. just one family suffering. and will continue to suffer for the rest of their lives because of this barbaric act that took place over the skies of eastern ukraine. people who were going to conferences, on holiday, to see their family members, to visit a new country. forever extinguished, and now we hear, as we've been reporting, that two military jets were also shot out of the sky this morning in ukraine. we see the back part of both these planes of c130 and the other plane, the c17. this one here is a c17. it's from australia air force. it's a larger plane. it's a boeing plane. it's bringing home 24 of the

bodies. the black boxes of the plane, the ukraine, the plane that was knocked out of the sky, they're now in the hands of british authorities. what kind of information does it hold and what helpful information could they bring? >> well, it only brings more closure, hopefully, for the family. i think we're clear already that the aircraft was shot down. that isn't at issue. there might be some forensic evidence available, first of all, the voice recorder should show that the cockpit crew was totally unaware. that's what i would expect, and there may be an initial millisecond of sound coming from the explosion that might be analyzed. but in general, i think we know what we need to know to move forward to the bigger picture, which is this ongoing war. >> and, jay, i'm going to ask you it standby. we're seconds away from the

bugler and the realization for many that their family members are coming home. but they're not coming home alive. as we've seen these live images coming out of the netherlands this morning. . in just a few seconds, we'll hear the bugler and the moment of silence. general, some u.s. intelligence around -- hold on a second. let's take you there live. ♪

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live images and moments of the return of 40 of the bodies that were aboard flight 17. blown out of the sky over eastern ukraine. as we see these images, and we hear the silence -- because it is listening to silence. just think that every single one of these caskets we'll be seeing brought out of the these two planes are human beings. stories, people with dreams and aspirations, people like a young man, miguel, you know, his mother speaks of regret at not

taking her youngest son's fears over the flight seriously. he and his brother were killed on flight 17. in a bedroom in a townhouse near amsterdam, he reached out for his mother the day before he boarded the flight saying mom, may i hug you. a day earlier he burst out, on his own, how would you choose to die. what would happen to my body if i was buried? would i not feel anything because our souls go back to god? just one of the many stories. one of the nearly 300 people who were aboard this jet liner. and i want to bring in general mccaffrey again. we saw some of the u.s. intelligence around this declassified information that we're seeing. senator saxby chambliss said he's disappointed the administration didn't release

more. let's listen to what he had to say. >> still classified but i think at the end of the day, all of that classified information will ultimately be released and, you know, whether it was the russians themselves that pulled the trigger or russian separatists trained by russians, it's all in the same and ultimately goes back to vladmir putin. >> is it all on putin. should the administration go to the u.n. and put all their cards on the table? >> well, you know, from the start, i thought within a matter of a few hours we would know where the launch point was. it was clearly turned out to be inside the separatist region, and we would be able to confirm this was a lethal shoot down. the day before when the separatists shot down more than 20,000 feet an ukrainian nationalist transport aircraft,

we knew it was a combat zone. an active air defense zone. i think one of the questions the international community has to seriously look at now is not putting off limits every air space there's a war going on. but looking at the capabilities was combatants to engage commercial aircraft. afghanistan -- nobody has sa 11. syria and places like the ukraine, we shouldn't have commercial aviation in the middle of an ongoing war. >> in the air force base where we're seeing the images. katie, good morning. >> good morning, jose. we're here right now. these cargo planes just landed. the military cargo planes. i'm going to step aside so you can take a look what is going on. they're carrying, between the two of them, 40 bodies. you're seeing 40 hearses pull up. each will be unloaded into an

individual hearse. we had a moment of silence just a few minutes ago as the planes landed. a trumt wpet was sounded and everybody in the area piped down to observe the memory of the lives lost during the mh 17 crash. the dutch prime minister is here, the queen, the king. a number of ambassadors from other countries as well, and family members. we cannot see the family members. they're behind a black curtain in order to maintain some semblance of privacy during this obviously very trying time. you'll see, also, in your shot there's a number of flags at half-staff right now. all the flags represent all the countries of the people who were on board mh17. it's unclear who of the passengers are on -- what bodies -- who the bodies belong to, essentially, on these two planes. there's only 40 so far of the 298 passengers. they're taken to another military base a few hours away. they're going begin the process

of identification. it could take days, weeks, months just depending on the condition of the body. family members have been asked to help create a profile of their loved ones so investigators can better id the bodies. things like picture so they can identify jaw line, any tattoos, any moles, birthmarks. they have taken some dna samples. we're told that, unfortunately, sadly, the bodies are not in very good shape after laying in the sun. there's concern how long it will take. once they are positively identified, they will be returned to the families at which point funerals will not take place. if they're not dutch citizens they're going to be repatrioted to the country they came from. jose? >> thank you so much for being with us. and general mccaffrey, jay, our thank as well. we're following developments from the middle east where violence there lead to the faa ban on u.s. flights in and out

of israel. we learned that data plans to stay out of israel for another day. we're expecting to hear shortly from the faa whether the ban will remain in place. the extraordinarily security measures come as secretary of state john kerry gets ready to meet with israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu as he tries to forge a ceasefire. >> we're working hard. i'm not going to get into the characterizing. we have certainly made some steps forward. there's still work to be done to see if we can advance, not just a ceasefire, but a sustainable process of going forward, which is very important. >> let's bring in kate live in tel-aviv airport. any word on when the u.s. flights might resume to israel? >> good morning. well, jose, that's what everybody in the airport would like to know. there are a lot of stranded passengers here waiting to get to europe or the u.s. a lot of them have been able to

rebook on the israeli airline which is flying. british airways still flying. if you look at the board behind there's a in red and flights aren't posted. the delta counter, for example, is empty. there's nobody working today because delta airlines decided to extend the ban on flying in and out of here. the faa said it would be a 24-hour notice and consider things around midday eastern time. that's coming up soon. we'll see if perhaps they extend their recommendations to the airline. it happened because yesterday morning a rocket from gaza landed on a home, which i visited very close to here, about two miles from the airport. that's what prompted this sort of domino effect of the airlines cancelling. >> and british is flying in and out and the israel-based continues to fly. for the hundreds of people that

were in israel scheduled to come in or out with an american or european airliner, they must feel like they're surrounded in an island and must have some really significant impact on them >>well, it does. i think psychologically, if you ask israelis what they think of it. they think that the united states is overreacting, frankly, because they will tell you it is perfectly safe to fly in and out of tel-aviv. they're accustomed to hearing sirens and being wander about rockets. it's been going on for years from gaza, actually. from the israeli point of view that's it. there's a conflict going on just to my south here a couple of hours drive. you can see with the sensitivity of what happened in ukraine, you know, that airlines would want to be very, very cautious. especially with a rocket landing yesterday in someone's backyard just a couple of hours from the airstrip. >> kate, thank so much for the live report. there's more breaking news

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this is a live look at house republican meeting. we'll keep an ear on that. the house republicans this morning released their recommends about how to deal with the crisis at the border. the highlights included deploying national guard to the

southern border. deploying messaging campaigns and originating countries, and having hearings for unaccompanied minors within several days. meanwhile, the senate democrats expected to slash a billion dollars from the president's original request of $3.7 billion. as congress try to toss deal with the problem. citiesy ies across the country continue to protest. joining me are california congressman and delaware governor. governor, thank you for being with us. you're among the many to take in the kids. you said on the one hand, we can't send them back to pearl use conditions but your state doesn't have the resources and you need faith groups to help. what should be expected from governors across the country on

this crisis? >> okay. so thank you for having me. let me be clear about what we've been asked by the federal government. when these kids come in within 72-hours they're turned over by the department of homeland security to the department of health and human services. and that department has asked states across the country, including delaware, to identify any facilities that we have in our states that not only can provide shelter to the kids, but that can also provide a huge array of services from five day a week to education to health care to mental health counseling to adaptation services done in a bilingual way. we don't have those kinds of facilities in delaware. we looked and we don't have those facilities. you get to the next part of the issue. most of the kids end up not staying in the big facilities. they end up staying -- getting placed around the country with family members. in the case of delaware, so far, 117 kids are with family members

here. the federal government is not really looking to provide foster care opportunities. and so the real question is what happens to these kids once they're here. i think it is important that we speed up the process by which these kids can get their immigration hearings. obviously most will be going back to their home countries, and we ought to do everything we can to make sure they're returning to safe places. we need to make sure we're treating them well as well. >> as you travel across your state, what are some of the phone folks across the state are telling you. what are the issues they're dealing with and worried about? >> i think people -- first of all, there are a lot of questions that a lot of people haven't had answered. yesterday i had the opportunity with other governors to have a briefing by secretary burwell from hhs and sk tear johnson from homeland security. both were on the issue. i think it would be helpful and we're going it do our job to make sure that people in

delaware have answers to these questions. you know, we've gotten a lot of calls from people who want to be helpful in some way. they're asking us how they can do that. and at this point, we have to direct them to the not for profit organizations who may provide some of the organizations once kids are placed with their families. with their relatives. >> governor markel, thank you for your time this morning. >> i want to bring in republican congressman from california. we received the policy recommendations the republican party is giving out on how to deal with the border crisis. will you support the recommendations that your own party is suggesting that we assume as a nation? >> well, first, thank you for having me on. with what i've seen so far, yes, there's a proposal in there that i will support. this is a serious issue that we have to address and we have to address it quickly. i'm proud to say we're coming up with solutions for it.

>> and, congressman, it's all going to take money. we were talking about the governor. there aren't a lot of places that have been set up for dealing with this amount of kids coming across the border without their families. so, you know, not a lot of time left working days left for the congress they go for recess on the 31 st of month. isn't there some need of some congressional movement to get some money allocated to deal with the crisis? >> well, the proposal we put forward has funding in there to help address the situation we've got there today. but it also -- we want to make sure that we include a process to deter children from doing this, because anything that we do in congress today or in washington that has an impact on these children -- if we can in some way, imply or sent a message to their home countries that this is a dangerous situation for them to cross dangerous countries, risk sexual assault, risk dealing with some of the border crimes that are

going on today with drug-related smugglers or even human trafficking. this is dangerous situation to put the kids in. we have to do everything we can to encourage children to stay with their families at home. >> congressman, we've spoken a lot over the years in telemundo in spanish. you're one that signed on the democratic bill in the house. do you see anything in the happening on immigration reform in the future, in the republican party that can help maybe deal with this type of crisis in the future? >> i certainly hope so. it's something i take a lot of time to work on with other members. i have no problem working across the aisle. i believe the republican party has to come to the table with solutions. i believe i was elected here to represent my district and make those tough votes, make decisions, and make my constituent's lives better. i think immigration reform is something that has to be addressed in the near future.

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expedia. find yours. what the president asking for is a blank check. he wants us to throw more money at the problem without doing any good to solve the problem. the administration needs to get their act together. they made indications they were for changes in the 2008 law that have helped bring this problem on. >> that was speaker john boehner a few moments ago. the house republicans unveiled their plan this morning put together by kay granger and includes part of the cornyn cuellar we no dollar amount attached. let's bring in henry cuellar.

good morning, congressman. >> good morning. how are you? >> i'm doing great. let's take a look at the republican's recommendations. sending national guards troops to the border, messaging campaigning to originating countries and getting kids in front of judges for seven days. are you satisfied with the recommendations? >> actually, it's pretty much our language. it mirrors our language. i want to thank kay granger of doing a good job of providing a broad basis approach to the issue. now it's going to -- that language will be attached to the appropriation bills. that's what chairman rogers will be working on apply it but with policy changes. >> congressman, here is my question. it's, you know, you guys go on the summer break on the 31st of july. there's no talk of specific

money. and meanwhile, kids are coming across the border and you know and i have been at the rio grande valley dealing with it. seeing it eye to eye. it seems like every day things are happening. days are passing, and everyone is talking in d.c. but where is -- what are the budgets going to come out. who is going to get the money. where are the institutions that are going to house the kids? >> two things. one, is i'll be the first to say if we don't finish this by july 31st we should stay until we get the job done. we can't receilet the crisis go. homeland security is going to run out of money before the fiscal year runs out. number two, we have to address the issue. as you said, you've been to the border. live on the border. this wave of humanity is continuing. and therefore we need address this in a way that we address the humanitarian crisis, but

again, we've got stop this wave of humanity. we have to send a signal to those countries. >> so, congressman, sorry to interrupt. how is this for a novel idea. what about nobody gets to go home, nobody gets to go on their summer campaign season kickoff until something concrete is dealt with to deal with this issue? town after town, city after city, and the united states is having to deal with this. a lot of people are wondering why they still are alone on this >>well, first of all, sign me up. i'll be the first to sign my name. we don't leave until we get the job done. number one, we can't leave back into our districts where it was going on. a lot of people thought it was a border issue. now kids are being taken and families are taken to different parts of the country. people are realizing that what happens at the u.s. border with mexico that affects the rest of

the country. sign me up. i'll be the first to say that. number two, we have to address this, otherwise homeland runs out of money. >> congressman, you told me when we were together in a rio grande valley area a couple of weeks ago, as many as one in three of the children you spoke to when you visited the center had been either raped or otherwise sexually molested. is that still what you're seeing? >> that is what the officials who have been holding the kids have told us. this is what the president and the folk are telling us. remember, jose, this is important. these are only the kids that made it across that a face a difficult situation. imagine the kids that the drug organizations or the bad guys said you know what? i think i'm going to keep you here because i like you or we have another purpose of you for doing here. these are the only the kids that made it here.

imagine some of the kids that never made it to the u.s. >> you're right. henry cuellar from texas. thank you for being with us. this morning a group of religious leaders is back from the border they visited a facility housing hundreds of kids. one local bishop said things are getting better. >> here they have a little more room. before they had to sit in rows. here they have more space. it's a humane way to receive them as they go through the government processing which is part of the reality. just back from his trip to facility in texas. the president of the southern baptist ethics commission. thank you for being with us. i was fascinated by the tweets you put up yesterday. quote, saddest thing i've heard today. 7-year-old el salvadorian kid said i have no family.

is that basically sum up what the kids are saying? >> it does sum that up. and the saddest thing, to me, not simply the words the child was speaking, but also, the attitude that he seemed to have. it was a sense of hopelessness. he answered as if to say of course i have no family. and talking to other children, we would ask why are you here. why did you make the dangerous trek to this country? and the answer was immediately fear, violence, drug lords. one child talked about attacks as it was called being enacted upon them to simply live where they live from the drug cartels and drug lords. the violence is horrifying. >> i want to be clear. a lot of people are saying, you know, these are 17 and 18-year-old young men face full of tattoos coming across the border. what did you see? >> i saw remarkably resilient young children and young people who were imimpressive in their resolve. they could have been kids in any one of our sunday schools. they had a great spirit about

them of determination, and also faces that have seen things that no child should ever have to see. >> friday the president is going to meet with the central american leaders. what would you advise the president to say to the leaders? i would advise him to tell the leaders it's a moral crisis. it's not a political crisis. what is happening in these countries is immoral. as christian, a a follower of jesus christ, i believe every person has dignity and every person has worth. and the assault on human dignity going on in the unchecked violence from the drug cartels in these countries is a moral disgrace. >> thank you for being with us, russell moore. we appreciate your perspective. coming up one of my favorite parts of taking the show on the road in today's five things. plus, celebrities and their causes on faculty display on the west coast for all to see online. a little star power can make

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♪ stars are bringing their social media platform to bring light to causes. that was on display this week during the national meeting of the nation's largest hispanic group. eva longoria brought awareness to social media. joining me with more on the marriage of star power. nice to see you. >> it's growing. it's important right now. especially with all the platforms we have on the internet, on social media. twitter, i was speaking with eva last night about the awards. she was telling me she gets all her news on twitter. everything that she learns about the world is 140 characters

long. that was an extremely interesting point. >> yeah. and people like eva, they have millions of followers. and they're not just following her for her fashion sense. >> of course. no they're not just following her even for what she's doing in hollywood or doing on television with devious maids. they're following her for what she's standing for. her organization, her foundation, the thing she is believes in. he's a huge advocate for immigration reform. she's been doing a lot of change in the community. trying to be the voice for the community, for the children that have been coming from central america as well. and we spoke on it yesterday and she was -- it seemed to me like she's really adamant about it being that voice for the community. >> who are the celebrities involved in social causes and use the internet more wisely? >> i would i have to say eva. ricky martin is a performer who uses social media and his

instagram account supports causes. i'm impressed recently with what -- not just with the kids in the situation but also with his media platform and exposing all these stories and all these people in this rawness of what is going on with immigration in this country. >> and one person everybody should follow is you. >> yes. >> thank you so much for having me. and congratulations. and congratulations, again, on the award last night. >> thank you so much. >> that was very special. >> thank you for being with us today. we're going take a quick break. come up developing news out the middle east. john kerry giving us an update. we'll play that after the break. of the services your vehicle needs. so prepare your car for any road trip by taking it to an expert ford technician. because no matter your destination good maintenance helps you save at the pump. get our multi-point inspection with a synthetic blend oil change, tire rotation,

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