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well, the clock is ticking on congress to see if they can do anything on a border bill before heading home. we'll get the latest on what kind of bill can make it through the house or the senate with democratic congressman jim clyburn as well as a senator. the ban on u.s. airliners into israel ban has been lifted as secretary kerry tries to bring the violence to a temporary end. and also this morning, democrats are hoping for a wave of women voters to bring them success in november. how much of an uphill fight will that be? good morning from washington. it's thursday, july 24th, 2014, this is "the daily rundown." just seven days before congress heads home. will they get anything done?
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we begin out in arizona. another botched execution. this time in arizona. it's already sparked an investigation locally and it's fueling more questions nationally about how the death penalty is being carried out. joseph rudolph wood was scheduled for an execution yesterday afternoon for the murder of his former girlfriend and her father in 1989. about ten minutes after the lethal injection was administered, something went wrong. >> he started gasping. it was -- several people described it as looking sort of like a fish out of water. it was sort of a spasm that would go from his mouth down through his chest to his stomach. and we watched this and it went on for more than an hour and a half. >> officially wood's execution took an hour and 57 minutes, long enough for his attorneys to draw up an emergency legal appeal and for the arizona supreme court to convene an impromptu hearing over the phone
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to see if the execution should be stopped. wood died before the court made a decision. arizona's governor, jan brewer, has ordered an investigation into the execution and a district court has ordered officials to preserve evidence. but the governor also released this statement saying this, inmate wood died in a lawful manner and by eyewitnesses and medical accounts, he did not suffer. members of the victims' family said the concern about wood's suffering is completely misplaced. >> everybody here from what i heard said it was excruciating. you don't know what excruciating is. what's excruciating is seeing your dad lying there in a pool of blood, seeing your sister laying there in a pool of blood. that's excruciating. this man deserved it. >> to me it looked like he was sleeping, he was snoring. that's what i saw. and then he passed away. so how is that suffering? >> of course there is a bigger issue here regarding how states are going about getting
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increasingly scarce drugs used to carry out lethal injections. arizona used a two-drug calm nation of a pain killer and a sedative to put wood to death. the same combination the state of ohio used in january during the execution of convicted killer dennis mcguire. mcguire took 25 minutes to die. mcguire's death should have been a red flag for arizona officials. >> it was an experiment because the state of arizona decided to follow the lead of the state of ohio and use the mixture of hydro morpone and medazalan to carry out this execution when they were fully aware of the problems that had occurred in ohio. >> of course those aren't the only incidents. in april, oklahoma's execution of clayton lockett dragged on for 40 minutes before he died of a heart attack. oklahoma used a three-drug combination, but it included the same sedative used in arizona
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and ohio. as we said earlier, it's becoming increasingly difficult for states to find the drugs they need to carry out executions and here's why. back in 2011, companies in europe stopped selling a key anesthetic to the united states. it's the same year the only domestic supplier of the drug stopped making it completely, so it left prisons scrambling to find reliable suppliers. for a time states were bartering with one another to get what they needed. but now they're running out of the actual drugs themselves. there are allegations that some states even went to the international black market to see if they could find some of these drugs. states are relying more on pharmacies that compound the drugs for them, pharmacies that some say fall outside of fda regulation. nevertheless, the rate of executions has remained relatively stable. so far in 2014, 26 prisoners have been put to death according to the death penalty information center, six of them since the death of clayton lockett. by this time in 2013, 13 had been executed, in 2012, the
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number was 24. as for public opinion, as you know right after the oklahoma botching we went into the field with a poll. 59% of people told us they still favor the death penalty. it falls right in line with what numbers that came out of the pew research center and they have recorded over the last three years. that said, these incidents have brought new attention to executions, sparked new lawsuits, may even force some states to think how the death penalty itself is carried out. never mind, by the way, the fact you're seeing some issues having to do with dna evidence that made some states halt all death penalty cases altogether. bottom line from a practical standpoint, the use of the death penalty as a public policy tool has probably never been on shakier ground than it is now. at 10:00 this morning, my partner, jose diaz-balart will speak to someone whonessed the executions. we'll have more coverage throughout the day. turning now to the middle east, the faa has lifted the ban on commercial flights to tel aviv but there's still been no slowdown in the number of rocket
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attacks in the area. in fact just hours after the faa's decision, five rockets were intercepted in the air over tel aviv. it was a rocket that struck tuesday that prompted the flight ban in the first place. united will continue flights. now israel has been pounding gaza for six days, hitting 3400 targets in the process. the death toll at this point is 738 palestinians versus 35 israelis. secretary of state john kerry wrapped up a string of meetings and is now back in cairo. before he left, he claims progress had been made. >> we're doing this for one simple reason. the people in the palestinian territories, the people in israel are all living under the threat or reality of immediate violence. this needs to end for everybody.
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>> but hamas may have the final say over whether a cease-fire can work at all. secretary kerry did not meet with any of its leaders, one of whom insisted that the organization is rejecting talk of a truce. nbc's foreign correspondent ayman mohyeldin is live for us in gaza. so, ayman, who is the go-between with hamas? we know it's not really egypt. we know it's -- maybe it's somebody in the israeli government that does something behind the scenes that we don't know about, but who is it? we know that it's not a u.s. official. >> reporter: well, there's a few layers to it. one is the palestinian factions together are speaking to egypt and that is being represented by members of the islamic jihad. and that is certainly being conducted through egyptian intelligence and through the egyptian foreign ministry. those two agencies are dealing directly with palestinian factions. but in terms of more of the pressure on hamas and the bilateral relationship taking place, hamas is having negotiations with the qatari
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government and certainly the turkish government. through them those two major international powers are the ones relaying the communications between hamas as an organization and some of the other international and regional players. >> meanwhile, what can you tell us about what's going on on the ground today? >> reporter: well, chuck, we just got word a few minutes ago of some disturbing news. again, these are initial reports, but according to sources on the ground in the area, an israeli shell hit a u.n. school where at least ten people may have been killed. these are the initial reports. we're also trying to find out if the school itself was targeted or may have been a building in the vicinity of it but as a result of that destruction, people inside the school may have been killed. now, since the beginning of this conflict, the united nations says about 140,000 people have taken refuge at schools similar to this one. this was in the northern part of the gaza strip. at this point we are still trying to find out more details, but the united nations is saying
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that at least some of its schools have been attacked since the beginning of this conflict. one of the u.n. spokes people representing the agencies here on the ground has today said, quote, literally there is no safe place for the people or the civilians of gaza anymore, chuck. >> ayman, is any humanitarian aid getting in? >> reporter: at this point it's very limited. some of it is obviously being brought in by the israeli military which controls the access points. yes, there is humanitarian coming in and also the egyptian government is allowing a selective amount of humanitarian coming in but certainly not enough, according to health officials, not enough to meet the demands of what is unfolding here, chuck. >> ayman mohyeldin in gaza for us. ayman, thank you, sir, for your reporting. meanwhile in the netherlands, another 74 caskets carrying the remains of victims of malaysian airlines flight 17 has left ukraine and it's on its way to the netherlands this morning. dutch police say it will take two more transport plane journeys to bring the remains of all 298 victims to the netherlands, but the transfer
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should be finished by tomorrow. we'll see. investigators are still identifying the victims. of course 193 were dutch. meanwhile information from the flight data and cockpit voice recorders have been downloaded and an international team is going over that evidence today. there's also a growing sense of urgency to get a u.n. team to the crash site in eastern ukraine in order to preserve other evidence on the ground, but there's no word yet how soon investigators will be able to deploy to eastern ukraine. here we are nearly a week later and that hasn't happened. there's also talk of sanctioning russian president putin himself, including the possibility of moving the world cup, which of course is planned in russia for 2018. nbc news correspondent jim maceda is live for us now in moscow with more on the international reaction. moscow's possible involvement with the downing of the flight itself. jim, obviously putin seems to be trying to deflect. he doesn't deny that the separatists were involved, he just seems to try to say don't hold russia accountable.
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how is his diplomacy with other european leaders going today? >> reporter: that's right, don't hold russia accountable and don't hold me accountable either. i think he's trying to dilute that and break any kind of connection between himself and the actual crime. but i wanted to mention, chuck, that there was added political pressure on putin today coming from this time a top rebel commander inside eastern ukraine. he heads a militia and is an ethnic ukrainian. he gave an interview to reuters saying that the rebels did in fact have a buk anti-aircraft missile launcher. this has been a huge issue, of course, as this unfolds. and that it was a known quantity inside eastern ukraine and that he also added, it may have come from russia. well, the pentagon apparently picked up on that. a spokesperson said that the
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remarks confirmed that what the u.s. officials had been saying, that russia has been providing weapons and training to the rebels. but speaking to russian tv, the same commander said that his comments were taken out of context, saying that he didn't really know if other militia units had buks or not. so the murky he said/she said war of words is going to continue. in terms of putin's relations with other western leaders and countries, we have to keep an eye now on the e.u. those officials said today that they were in discussions to expand sanctions, to include for the first time sanctions against whole sectors of the russian economy. that would include finance, it would include energy and also defense. now, these are simply proposals. they'll continue talking next week. but if they could become law, if they become law, then these could seriously hurt russia and putin knows it. >> all right, jim maceda in moscow. we know the clock is ticking.
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europe does not do any work really in august, so if they're going to do anything, it would happen in the next week. thank you, jim. we're following now developing news of an algerian plane that disappeared from radar overnight. here's what we know so far. both reuters and french media are quoting an algerian aviation official that says the flight has crashed. air algerie flight 5017 was flying to algiers with 110 passengers and 6 crew members onboard. it left at 1:17 a.m. local time. it was scheduled to arrive at about 5:10. that's midnight east coast time. air traffic control reports it lost contact with the plane about 50 minutes after takeoff when it should have been flying over mali, which the faa says is risky for flights flying below 24,000 feet. in fact the faa warns pilots this about flying over that part of africa. civil aircraft operating into and out of and within or over
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mali are at risk of encountering insurgent small arms fire, rocket-propelled grenades, rocket and mortar fire and anti-aircraft fire. that said, officials do not believe that fighters in mali have the kind of weapons to shoot down a plane flying at that altitude. tom costello reports the airline has a checkered record. 96 passengers were killed in '06. 3 crew members were killed after a crash in italy. earlier this year 120 people suffered minor injuries during a hard landing, all from that same airline. as we get more information on that, we will share it with you. up next, we're going to turn back here to the craziness of washington and congress' inability to apparently do anything, even when there's a crisis, whether it's the va or the border. how's it going to happen, what's going to happen, who stands a better chance of passing a border bill in the next six days, the senate or the house. will it happen. plus the battle over oklahoma's ft. sill military
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base. why lawmakers are blasting the white house planning to send thousands more of those migrant children there. first a look ahead at today's politics planner. the president is out in l.a. and will do an interview with my colleague over at cnbc, steve liesman, today and talk a little economic populism. you're watching "the daily rundown" only on msnbc. did you know, your eyes can lose vital nutrients as you age? [ male announcer ] that's why there's ocuvite to help replenish key eye nutrients. ocuvite has a unique formula
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it leaves washington for a five-week recess, that's congress. so today the presidents meet with president obama tomorrow at the white house. with house republicans and senate democrats completely dead locked, members of both parties are acknowledging it's not likely to get done. on wednesday boehner's hand-picked group rolled out its recommendations proposing congress deploy the national guard to the border, speed up processing and deportation of children and families with the goal of processing family units in five to seven days, set up repatriation centers in central american countries and amend that 2008 bush trafficking law, something that's become pretty tough for house and senate democrats to deal with. in a letter to the president, the speaker chided the white house for failing to include that in his funding request writing frankly it is difficult
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to see how we can make progress on this issue without strong public support from the white house for these much-needed reforms, including changes to the 2008 law. >> what the president is asking for is a blank check. he wants us to just throw more money at the problem without doing anything to solve the problem. the administration ought to get their act together. you know, they made indications that they were for changes in the 2008 law. now they're opposed to it. >> the white house -- it's a bunch of democrats opposed to it and the white house has decided not to use its political capital with democrats to convince them otherwise but boehner has his own problems. an hour before granger unveiled her recommendations, texas republican senator ted cruz urged house conservatives over a breakfast of chick-fil-a not to, quote, fold on the border. after hearing the house proposal yesterday, many conservatives were unconvinced. >> right now the president of the united states is the world's
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sugar daddy and that has to stop. the whole issue can be resolved for roughly $20 to $30 million. it costs about $300 per ticket one way, commercial air. that tallies up to $27 million total. anyone in the united states of america can get on the internet, look at travelocity, look at cheapflights.com. >> 15, 16 or 17 years old, these are prime candidates for gang recruitment or members of gangs. this is the most dangerous demographic that you could select out of any civilization being brought into the united states and repatriated. so we first have to stop the bleeding. that means secure the border. >> so there you go. boehner is likely to get some democratic votes for his package. the question is how many and whether he'll be comfortable bringing a bill to the floor despite some conserve after opposition. last night senate democrats introduced their own $2.7 billion bill.
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that's a billion less than the president asked for. democrats want to hold off on spending that additional money until next year to see if it's needed. her bill includes no changes to the 2008 law. >> make no mistake, the funds that we say we need, we really do need. we also don't want radical riders that will weaken our refugee and human trafficking laws or accelerate deportation of children without due process under existing law. we don't want a back door version of bad immigration reform. >> now two things this democratic bill does include. $615 million to fight western wildfires and $225 million for israel's iron dome missile defense system. in effect, it's daring senate republicans to vote against it. republicans have jumped on the opportunity to create a wedge between the president and congressional democrats over this 2008 bush law. the truth is while the president
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and homeland security secretary do want the law changed most congressional democrats do not and appear to be reluctant to create any intra party fueds during an election year. when asked what the president wants done with regard to the law, the white house spokesman said we want to work with democrats and republicans to make sure those changes are done the right way. will a border bill get done? both house and senate leaders are hoping to vote on their bills next week but acknowledge there are some big hurdles. right now it's not clear there's enough republican support on the senate side without making changes to the anti-trafficking law. the future in the house is also in doubt as gop leadership aides are saying unless the president encourages democrats to support changes to the 2008 law, it's unclear what can pass the house. and if the number of kids crossing the border does come down, which it has been, the sense of urgency may evaporate making it harder to negotiate any compromise. it may sound rich but some democrats are lamenting eric
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cant cantor's absence from the negotiating process because when it comes to legislative negotiating, cantor was always the guy who was always more hands-on of the leadership team. boehner is always more comfortable delegating some of those nuts and bolts. joining me now, south carolina congressman jim clyburn. congressman, good morning to you, sir. >> good morning. thanks for having me. >> so do i have this right, that you guys are missing eric cantor in this process? >> i don't think so. the fact of the matter is, as you know, more than a year ago the senate sent a bill to us, a very comprehensive bill. we didn't particularly like the bill. mccall thompson amended it and that amendment is before us. i think that we could fix this thing with one additional amendment to address the changes that are bipartisan changes that people would like to see made in the 2008 law.
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so we could do this within 24 hours if only the speaker would allow that senate fix, comprehensive fix to move forward with the mccall-thompson proposal and with an additional amendment which i would gladly co-sponsor with any republican to fix whatever we think may be wrong with 2008 law. >> do you think there's something wrong -- let me stop you there. do you think there's something wrong with the law? what do you want to have fixed with the law? the president wants it changed. what do you want changed in the law? >> well, i don't have anything special that i want to see changed in the law. i do believe that we should modify the approaches. there's some loopholes there involving children. we were trying to fix a problem involving trafficking and that kind of stuff, but those loopholes there are now being
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used by gangs that are really disrupting families and that loophole needs to be closed and others like it. so those kinds of modifications i think need to be made so the law can address humanitarian issues, such as that, that we have now with these children. >> so what's the state of these negotiations? is there any negotiating going on about doing some sort of -- some fix to the 2008 law? because i haven't seen democrats propose a bill like that. the senate democrats did not. they didn't introduce a bill that did anything to change the '08 law last night. >> no, they didn't. they also cut a billion dollars from the president's request. let them move forward. the senate has sent stuff to us before, which we've had to fix, so let the senate go ahead and do what they're going to do. >> you want the senate to go first? >> not necessarily. the last time we asked the
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senate to go first, it messed up the deal back when i was majority whip. we had all the votes in the house to do it, but because the senate couldn't get its act together, our deal fell apart. so they don't have to go first. we can look at the legislation, we can put whatever money figure we want to put on it, we can take the mccall-thompson amendment and really move something to the floor of the house that i would gladly be a part of. >> are you guys really going to go home without doing this bill? are you really going to go home without doing va reform? is that really going to happen this year? you guys are going to go home without dealing with any of these two crises? 535 of you said were going -- were something that had to be dealt with and the longer it's dragged on, the more the politics has got in the way. >> well, i would hope we would not go home before doing something, but that's the speaker's call.
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we will gladly stay here and get this done if that's what the speaker would have us do. but the ball is in speaker boehner's court on both these big issues, and as you know, i have two veterans administration bills in my congressional district and i certainly would like to see a fix done for that as well. >> and that bipartisan fix, sanders-mccain, you don't have bernie sanders and john mccain teaming up very often and that bill can't get through the senate and get to the house? >> the fact of the matter is it could get through the house if the speaker would put the bill on the floor. that's what's holding up these fixes. i think we've got enough votes on both sides to fix a lot of this, if only we could get an opportunity to vote on it. but we aren't being given that opportunity and that's where the rub really is in all of this.
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>> all right, congressman jim clyburn, democrat from south carolina, number three in the house democratic leadership. thanks for coming on this morning. >> thanks for having me. >> right now minors who have crossed the border are being housed in military bases in texas, california and oklahoma. 1200 are at ft. sill alone. on monday oklahoma republican senator and six of the state's u.s. representatives said the government should reconsider using the fort as a stop-gap solution to housing these children. senator inhoff joins me now. senator, good morning to you, sir. >> good morning, chuck. >> let me ask you, what if -- at this point we're in a crisis. what do you do if oklahoma doesn't want them? what do you do with these kids since congress is still trying to figure out how to give the tools to the dhs to try to speed up the deportation process? in the meantime, where should they be housed, if not here? >> first of all, i think we're
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overlooking the obvious here. i went down and talked to these kids. at that time they just arrived, there might have been 300 or 400. i speak spanish and i talked to them, even though they try to keep us from doing it. these kids were here in this country at the invitation of the president. i think everybody knows it and nobody says it. >> what does that mean? >> that means that during his deferred action childhood arrivals he's making it sound as if come here, we'll take care of you, and they all believe this, chuck. i know you don't believe it, but they do. and so these kids are all -- >> it's not about me. >> so these kids are piling into ft. sill right now. we're understaffed down there, we're trying to rebuild a barracks. so the commander told me that they had agreed with hhs, we have to house these people but we can't do it beyond october. they promised they'd leave by october. where are they going to go? hhs doesn't have an answer for that. i don't have an answer for that. i'm just saying that you have to
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set up something. until the president reverses this decision and makes some kind of a comment, you don't want to take of crossing all the way through mexico, risking your lives and all this to come to this country and when you come here, you've got to obey the law or we're not going to let you in, that would stop it, chuck. that would stop it. >> obviously you know the president is not going to reverse that. we've got a crisis here. he seems to be -- you know, there seem to be -- they have made that pretty clear. now on the 2008 law which of course seems to hold up the deportation process in this case because of the asylum -- the asylum issues that have to be dealt with before a deportation can happen, what is going on in the senate? do you think a compromise of some sort on the 2008 law to at least speed up the process -- >> okay, i think people have to understand what the 2008 law was. that passed by aunanimous conset
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in the senate. it passed by unanimous consent but that was to correct a problem, chuck, that is slave labor, sexual assault, all these things. that was the reason for that law. that's not the case here. and i don't think that law has application. i think we could go through a deportation -- >> you don't think it does? you think we can do this without it? how? >> i think we can. well, it's the will to do it. after all, you say how can this happen. how could they have turned loose, you know, five of the real terrorists that was violating a law directly. i think this can happen and i just -- i really believe that the president has to make this decision. we can deport some of them. the one that say i talked to, i've got to tell you this, chuck. i talked to them individually and i speak enough spanish that i could do this. all of them were programmed to say that they had relatives here, they were invited to come up here, they're going to stay here. at the same time, they say, hhs says, we're not going to send
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them back. so long as they have that assurance, more are coming in. right now that 12,000 at ft. sill is up to -- i'm sorry 1200 is up to 1400 and they're now saying that we can't close them down in october, they're going to have to stay until at least january. well, you know, that is very disruptive on the mission that we have trying to carry out in our military. our military has problems enough right now without taking on this burden. i'm going to be there to try to help them. >> is there legislation, can you support giving the administration more money to try to deal with this if it is about speeding up the deportation process? >> the answer is no, because the president doesn't need more money for that. what he needs to do is reverse his position so that we don't have these people continuing to come in. it's one thing to deal with the ones that are here now. the other is to stop the flow that's coming in by invitation of the president. >> all right, senator jim inhofe, republican from oklahoma, i'm going to have to leave it there. thanks for coming on and sharing
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campaign trail mix. a montana lawmaker may be in serious trouble. democratic senator john walsh was already facing a pretty tough campaign for a full term in the senate, but now allegations of plagiarism could tank his already underdog candidacy. "the new york times" reports senator walsh plagiarized sections of his master's thesis at the u.s. army war college seven years ago. whole sentences were lifted from papers by the carnegie endo youment. in a statement walsh said i don't want to blame my mistake on ptsd, but i do want to say it may have been a factor. my head was not in a place very conducive to a classroom in an academic environment. the army war college says it's investigating the incident itself. walsh was appointed to the senate five and a half months ago and has been trailing republican congressman steve danes in many recent polls. moving on, democrats are hoping a sizeable gender gap will rescue the party in a tough
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national environment and they're counting on a slate of women candidates across the country to bring women to the polls. democrats had a 12-point lead among women voters in our generic congressional ballot. it's an advantage we've seen in some of our state polls. democrats had a whopping 25-point lead among women in new hampshire, 13 points in michigan, 12 points in colorado. only iowa was their lead in single digits. of course the republican candidate there is a woman. in this current environment, successful democratic campaigns believe that they're going to need female voters by double digits. single digits probably doesn't cut it this year and that's where emily's list comes in, the group that supports democratic women who are for abortion rights and has already spent $12.4 million this cycle on key races where the group believes dynamic women candidates could make a difference in november. now much of that money has gone to four women running for the senate in southern states, kentucky's alison grimes, georgia's michelle nunn, kay haguen and natalie tenant.
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they're also supporting jeanne shaheen in new hampshire and in hawaii. when it comes to governor races, wendy davis may be a big fund-raising draw but emily's list is boosting women for governor in wisconsin, massachusetts and rhode island in addition to new hampshire where governor maggie hassen is the incumbent. they are supporting to rising stars. florida's gwen graham to north carolina's alma adams. stephanie schriock is the president of emily's list and she joins me now. >> good morning. >> obviously this ability that democrats believe is going to drive a wedge between women voters, particularly moderate women, republican women, on the issue of contraception in particular, the hobby lobby case, i hate to be crass, was it more important to lose it politically than to win it? >> it is a terrible loss for women and that is the most important thing we have to remember in politics. this is about actual change in
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people's lives and it's going to hurt women's lives. but we've seen today and in fact planned parenthood action fund today is rolling out a poll that shows that women are really opposed to this decision. 72% of women in the poll say this is a very important issue to them. a majority said that they will vote for a candidate that opposes the hobby lobby decision. even one out of three republicans, republicans are saying that they oppose this hobby lobby decision. so this is another piece of what's feeding this growing gender gap that you were just showing across the country. in our races, in georgia, north carolina, but also colorado, michigan, you're going to see this growing and it's not just health care, but it's equal pay, it's minimum wage, it's a fair shot for economic opportunities. >> there was a report this morning, and i've seen some evidence of it myself watching on the campaign trail, it seems as if the abortion issue isn't a campaign issue for many of your candidates, particularly in some of these southern states where
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abortion is perhaps abortion rights is a little more on the pro-life side than the pro-choice side, particularly west virginia, georgia, kentucky. are you encouraging your candidates to talk more about contraception than on the issue of abortion rights itself? >> we always encourage our candidates to talk about the issues that really are the center of the interests of women voters. that is economic opportunity and access to health care. our democratic women candidates and democrats in general are standing on the side of women. you're seeing that in the growing gender gap. the republicans really have a problem on this, particularly with their opposition to access to birth control. they have gone so extreme that we can talk about issues that really, really matter to women. equal pay, minimum wage, access to health care. >> and i notice you don't say abortion rights in there. do you feel like -- do you feel like it's faded as an issue that you're talking about or that it's just politically too divisive and potentially gets in the way of talking about the other issues that you want to
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talk about? >> folks know that our candidates are going to back up women on these issues. they absolutely are. but we see this in polling over and over again. the republicans would love to talk about these social issues, but what's driving this election and this gender gap are economic issues. and things like access to birth control, which is -- which is, by the way, an economic issue for women and families in this country. >> one of the things i wanted to ask you about, i've noticed that when you ask a question, this whole idea, there's been some push about banning abortion after 20 weeks. that this has been some of the latest attempts by some conservatives in various states. support for bans on abortion after 20 weeks has actually got majority approval. do you guys have a legislative campaign about that? what do you say to folks that say, well, that sounds reasonable enough. legal for the first 20 weeks, ban it after 20 weeks? >> well, emily's list focus is
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solely electoral. we are about electing pro-choice democratic women who are going to lead the way on a whole series of issues and we actually do not have a legislative agenda, we don't lobby as emily's list. what we're seeing in the country though right now is disturbing. legislature after legislature are really rolling back access to reproductive health care in extreme ways. >> so you would encourage your candidates to be against anything that banned after 20 weeks? >> well, i think what we would really be talking about is what is providing women choices at this moment. we've got states right now where there are no clinics left. i mean so we have a much larger problem here with some of the movement that the republicans have made. i mean some states have talked six weeks, some states have talked 12 weeks. i mean this is a really dangerous time for us because women need full choices for economic opportunity. >> i've got to leave it there.
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>> absolutely. tomorrow we'll look at how republicans are trying to leverage the women's vote. we'll have the former white house director for george w. bush. they believe they have a slate of women candidates on the republican side that will cut into this gender gap. coming up a pair of court rulings giving us all a case of political whiplash on health care. we'll look at the ups an downs of that law and where it's headed next. our soup of the day comes from ingrid's kitchen in oklahoma city. they're serving up beef and barley soup. we'll be right back. check it out. i just saved 15% on car insurance in 15 minutes, so i took a selfie to show everyone how happy i am. really? because esurance saved me money in half that time. can i...? oh you can be in it! no need to photo-bomb me. hashbrown. selfie. yeah... that's not how it works. 15 minutes for a quote isn't how it works anymore. start with a quote from esurance and you could save money on car insurance in half the time. welcome to the modern world. esurance. backed by allstate. click or call.
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time now for today's take away. if you've got a case of health care whiplash, you're not alone. tuesday morning, good news, premiums would not skyrocket next year contrary to some political nervousness. bad news wasn't far behind. as is always the case with health care. on tuesday, a d.c. circuit said in a 2 to 1 ruling, due you to the law's wording, only state-based exchanges could award tax sub sudden is. hours later, a circuit court of appeals reached the exact opposite conclusion. the law was intended to give subsidized on -- than the ones that the federal government runs. on wednesday, more good news for the administration. a report estimated 10 million uninsured americans gain coverage under the law. the uninsured rate dropped from 21 to 1%. what do we make of it. >> it's still the law of the land. it still isn't the settled law of the land, especially with one political party trying to
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