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hello, everybody, i'm joy reid. this is "the reid report." 1:57, how long it took to kill a man in arizona yesterday. >> he was, you know, clearly struggling for breath. >> to me, it looked like he was sleeping. >> i liken to if you catch a fish and throw it on the shore. >> everybody's more worried about did he suffer. who really suffered was my dad and my sister when they were killed. >> after another botched execution, the question of the lethal drug cocktail is back in the spotlight. then, israel's war with hamas gets more gruesome as a school shelter in gaza residents is struck and 15 people are killed. and in our next installment of generation to generation, john lewis and phillip agnew discuss the continued fight for
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dreams still not realized. the growing controversy over the most widely used form of capital punishment in this country, lethal injection, whether it's administered in states across this country in a humane fashion. today it's arizona officials who are reviewing a botched execution. this time, trying to figure out why it took two hours to execute joseph wood. reporters witnessing the execution describe wood as gasping during two hours, the family of his victims say they only saw justice. >> everybody, here from what i heard, said it was excruciating. you don't know what excruciating is, what's ex-crushiating is seeing your dad lying in a pool of blood, seeing your sister in a pool of blood, that's excruciating. >> he was snoring, and then passed away. how that is suffering? how do you call that suffering? because it's a new drug? come on. you guys are blowing this way
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out of proportion. >> the botched execution in arizona follows a similar one in oklahoma in april when it took an inmate more than 40 minutes to die. in january, an inmate in ohio given the same drug cocktail as wood took 26 minutes to die. the lethal injection is a common form of capital punishment but a key drug is scarce and firms that make it are uneasy with the association of the death penalty. some states have developed new unprove. cocktails whose formal las are wrapped in seek cressty in law as in the case of arizona arm a reporter with the associated press witnessed the execution. tell us what you saw. >> hi. essentially what happened was joseph wood was taken into the room and he was sedated at 1:57 p.m. a few minutes later he started snoring and gasping for air, and that continued in about 5 to
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12-second intervals for an hour and 40 minutes. >> in the room, were people starting to become concerned after it took not just more than ten or 12 minutes the way it normally does, but into an hour and when you had lawyers leave and try to file a stay one hour in, what was the conversation or i guess the tenor of the room at that point? >> yes. there -- there wasn'tfully conversation but glances exchanged. it was very clear that there was concern in the room, especially from witnesses who had been in several other executions and knew how it should normally go. >> had you witnessed an execution previously? >> no, i had not. >> you had not. from your pointof view, somebod hadn't seen this before, disit appear he was suffering or was it more like what the family members said as if he seemed to be snoring? >> it didn't appear to me he was
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suffering. i can't say whether he was or wasn't. he was sedated. there were no body movements other than his chest expanding and jaw dropping when he was gasping for air. >> and governor jan brewer released a statement, i'm concerned about the length of time it took the administered drug protocol to complete the lawful execution of convicted double murder joseph wood. by medical accounts he did not suffer. was there conversation you were involved in or did you interview people representing discomfort with what had gone on? >> no. state officials didn't issue a statement or really say much at all until later on in the evening, and it's been pretty much denial all around that he suffered. >> astrid galvan thank you. >> the chief medical editor at
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nbc affiliate wdsu, and austin sarat, author of "gruesome spectacles botched executions and american death penalty." i'll start with you -- sorry, with our author. the question is whether or not the execution was that gruesome, whether it was outrageously bad spectacle, or was this just a case of it taking too long? you write in your book there have been much, much worse executions in our history. >> well, depends what counts as what you say a worse execution. i think what happened in arizona has to be seen in a broad context. the united states is committed to the idea that when we punish, when we execute, we'll do so in a way that is compatible with the 8th amendment's guarantee there will be no cruel and unusual punishment. the challenge, when we execute,
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when we punish, and when we punish those who have committed horrible crimes, our challenge is to punish in such a way as to division ourselves from those who we condemn. i think the recent problems with lethal injection have brought into question whether we are able to successfully carry out the constitutional commitment, not to punish cruelty, and the political and social necessity that, when we punish, we rise above those that we condemn. >> well, doctor, therein lies the conundrum, how do you determine whether an inmate suffered? then mate's now deceased. it's a mystery what the drug cocktails contain, what they do. does the medical establishment have protocol for determining what this cocktail of drugs, if they could determine what specifically concentrations, would do to a person? >> well, actually, what we know is that the drugs that were used were basically common street
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drugs that you can find anywhere in america, midazolam, sedates you, you don't feel anything, and the second drug, which is a drug which should decrease your heart rate and once your heart rate is decreased, respirations decrease and then you should die. there's no protocol because this is a state by state base since the ama has a serious stance on whether doctors should do this and they're clear doctors should not participate in anything like this. but the ama noose regulation at this time in the united states to monitor what doctors do, only the state medical boards can do that. so, doctors have routinely been doing this for extended period of times and it's up to the state to decide how they want to handle. until the united states has some type of federal mandate, so that all states will do the exact same thing i think you're going to continue to have these type of botched executions. >> but, aust.
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you did have an appeal to the supreme court, which was quickly dispatched and sent back on the basis that the now deseeded wanted to know the concentration of the drugs and expertise of those conducting the execution. that received brief consideration in the supreme court. why do you suppose that is? >> well, i think the supreme court regards the broad issue is not yet right for adjudication. the question of whether or not inmates have a first amendment right to know what the drugs will be and where the drugs are obtained is really only now being litigated in the courts. often the supreme court will turn down a case, not because it doesn't regard the case as meritorious or worthy of argument, but because it isn't quite ready yet, it hasn't been developed in the lower courts below. and i think that's the case in this situation. it's probably incompatible with our political and legal
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commitments that the sources of drugs, the kind of drugs and the protocols be secret. imagine that states were to say, we're going to have a secret trial, there would be appropriately an uproar i i think we're on the cusp of that now. the point of view of the supreme court, they're waiting if you will, they're sitting back and waiting for this issue to fully develop and fully ripen. >> but, doctor, isn't the reason those drugs are secret a discomfort on the part of the companies that produce component of the drug cocktail? not comfortable associated with the death penalty, and you have, while a majority of americans support the death penalty, you have support beginning to decline, the application of the death penalty beginning to decline. so what are the chances that you would see any kind of uniformity when the companies themselves don't want people to know what drugs are being used. >> in fact in 2011, the drug
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used previously like midazala mr. to sedate in 2011 that company was bought out by a company in italy. in italy it's illegal to participate in any type of lethal injection or death or have the death penalty. so what happened is that this company said, if you're going to use our drug and you can't guarantee that it won't be use ford lethal injection, that means thaw you cannot sell that drug in the united states, and that company decided to pull all of its drug out of the united states. that's why we don't use it anymore and that's why we're using midazolam. as long as drug companies are in a situation they don't want to be seen as villains here, we're never going to have disclosure that we need. we must understand something must be done whether the litigation is ripe enough or not, we have to know what
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happened in the last three lethal injections in the united states was not humane, it was not, and we have to come to terms with that. >> there's a judge who is the chief judge in the 9th circuit court of appeals wrote a critique of lethal injection in the case of wood and said the following, he said, perhaps the firing squad strikes him as the most promising alternative, eight to ten large caliber rifle bullets fired at close range can inflict massive damage causing instant death every time. plenty of people employed by the state who can pull the trigger and have training to aim true. firing squads can be mess q. but if willing to carry out executions we should not shield ourselves from reality that we are shedding human blood. from firing squads to the benign form, which is not that benign, lethal injection. >> look at history of death penalty in the united states, it's tied with idea of scientific progress. namely, the belief that we could
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find ways of putting people to death that would be safe, reliable, and human. as we move from hanging to electrocution, from electrocution to lethal gas and lethal injection, the same things were said, each technology was to be safe, reliable, and more human than the next. the crisis we face now is that there is no alternative to lethal injection. and kosinski and others talk about maybe employ the firing squad or go back to the electric chair i think that indicates that the degree of difficulty that faces the death penalty in the united states. death penalty in the united states is in decline. the death penalty in the united states does not have a rosy future. in the life time of my children the death penalty will be gone and the problems with lethal injection must be seen in this large context of what is increasingly seen in the united
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states as a broken system. we can't get it right in terms of distinguishing the innocent from the guilty. among the guilty, we cannot figure out a way to sentence that isn't tinged with racial arbitrariness and geographic disparity. now what we see is, when we get to executing people, we cannot do it in a way that is compatible with america's values. >> indeed. or indeed in terms of his lawyer's argument with the 8th amount of the constitution. appreciate both of you being here. thank you. >> thank you. now to the ongoing investigation into the downing of malaysia flight 17. today, two more military planes with bodies of victims arrived in the netherlands. experts and support staff working to identify remains. dutch police hope the process of removing bodies from the crash site will be completed by tomorrow. australia's prime minister says he worries that some remains may never be recovered unless security's tightened at the crash site.
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he has sent 50 police officers to london to join a proposed united nations team that would secure the crash scene which has been controlled by pro-russian rebels. the ban on u.s. airlines flying into israel has been lifted, but the fighting in gaza continues. we've got the latest from the ground as the death toll spikes above 700. then -- >> she says, i'm pregnant, i'm having a baby, and i shot her anyway. >> how do you define self-defense? the 80-year-old homeowner says he shot an intruder as she tried to run away. wondering what that is? that, my friends, is everything. and with the quicksilver card from capital one, you earn unlimited 1.5% cash back on everything you purchase. not just "everything at the hardware store." not "everything, until you hit your cash back limit." quicksilver can earn you unlimited 1.5% cash back on everything you could possibly imagine. say it with me -- everything. one more time, everything!
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shelters in gaza was hit, killing more than 15 people, wounding more than 200 people seeking refuge. 8% of the entire palestinian population in gaza has sought out a u.n. relief center. the news come as missiles continue to fall near israel's main airport in tel aviv. the faa lifted its two-day old restrictions on american carriers flying too and from ben gurion airport this morning but it remains to be seen whether secretary kerry's brand of shuttle diplomacy can silence rockets and guns firing into their third week with 700 palestinians and 32 israeli soldiers dead. an msnbc contributor, steve, this further deterioration in gaza, shelling of a u.n. facility, where people were taking shelt, we have had reports of safe areas being at risk, give us your assessment of the situation because it does seem to be incredibly bleak.
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>> well, it's a terrible situation. you know, to the israel side of the equation, israel has found many more tunnels than were expected, found that many entryways to the tunnels had been in private homes, has found missiles allegedly in various schools. but that doesn't remove the issue that an extraordinary number of civilians, women, young children, are really being slaughtered in this incursion. we hear a lot from israel about the care by which it is putting its targeters through a process of notifying those, of putting out calls, leaflets, et cetera. but when you add up what you see on the ground, you see the targeting and killing of four young boys playing soccer on a beach, a u.n. facility, no matter what israel thought may have been go on in that u.n. facility or whether or not warnings had been previously
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given, the kind of care that i think the west expects is not being shown. so it is a big gap between the question of what is legitimate in terms of the question of israeli security and what we're seeing play out in video and cell phone footage of just extraordinary karnlcarnage of p not responsible for the rockets fired at israel. >> there's a disconnect between the reaction that you're seeing around the world to those stories, pictures, particularly the issue of children being killed in these raids into gaza. and kind of the political stances around the world in governments around the world, including here in the u.s. you had senator lindsey graham say he doesn't believe israel went too far in terms of hitting the school. if the norms have broke down to the point where people don't distinguish u.n. facilities as off-limits in terms of targeting, how do you resolve the situation? >> i think john kerry's out there trying to do a good job of
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reaching to the sort of scene and rational people on both sides and see if they can't calm things down for a bit. we don't know how that will go. one of the realities and the horrible reality you and i have talked about it, the world's a mess now. wu have 160,000 people that have died a bit north in syria, isis, that continues to expand its footprint both inside syria and iraq and is killing people wantenly in these places. it's been hard to line up the tra dilgs stakeholders in the region to impose a calm, if not a longer truce in peace. i think that one of the things we have to see is the normal bar for moral outrage has been raised, if you will, in the sense that there's more happening in previous conflicts would have been terrible that you would have had a calm take place. but right now that doesn't seem to be the case. 750 people dead, overwhelmingly
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civilians and not much stopping the process. >> i'm glad that you mentioned the carnage in syria, which has not made it into the news cycle here in much of the west but is going on simultaneously. we don't have a great deal of time, but talk about the complicating role of egypt. you have egypt, not friendly to hamas, an offshoot of the muslim brotherhood form a lot of reasons egypt is not an ideal broker. talk about the bigger picture, who are the regional actors who would have any influence over on the hamas side of the equation. >> there are two, there qatar and turkey, both have maintained relations with the muslim brotherhood and hamas. egypt now is part of the broader, soft civil war between the shia and the sunni in the region. you have had the ascension of the president who has outlawed the muslim brotherhood, removed the back door to hamas in gaza. so you've got the saudis uae and whatnot on the side of being
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tough on hamas, and then qatar and turkey who have influence. i think john kerry's trying to work with both of those. >> let's hope there's some progress there. thank you. now, three things that you need to know this thursday. algerian plane that vanished from radar 50 minutes after take-off overnight has reportedly crashed near northern mali, 116 on board. conflicting reports whether the wreckage has been found. it's unclear what caused the plane to go down. but officials say the crew requested a route change due to sandstorm. miriam even braham, on death row arrived with her family in italy. her father, muslim, was arrested, and even gave birth in jail because of her marriage to a christian man and refusal to refute her christian faith. a tornado touched down in a campground today. mcauliffe directed officials to help with first responder
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no regrets, that's what an 80-year-old long beach california homeowner says after fatally shooting an intruder in the back, after she begged for mercy, telling the man she was pregnant. our los angeles affiliate knbc has been covering the story. the lady didn't run fast as a man, so i shot her in the batwi. crawled through my windows, stole my money out of the safe. i walked in on them, they downed me in the hallway. >> reporter: did they have weapons? >> no. i snuck over, i got my gun. i come back and they see me with a gun and they run. i shot her twice, she best be dead. but then they don't -- he run off and left her. they've been here twice before so they know the routine. she says, don't shoot me, i'm pregnant, and i shot her anyway. >> reporter: no regrets?
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>> no regrets. >> reporter: we contacted long beach police and did not hear back. they did say the incident is under investigation. the question is, in a world of morris danders and trayvon martin has stand your ground and castle indoctrine laws embolden gun owners? a criminal defense attorney in san francisco, i want to go to you first, john, on this question of california law and california's castling doctrine, homicide is justifiable when committed in defense of habitation, property or person against one who manifestly intends by violence or surprise to commit a felony. based on what you heard about the case, does this fit into the california castle doctrine? >> it only fits to the extent that he shot them when they were in the apartment or in the house, but it doesn't apply once they have left, and they seem to have tried to escape and he is no longer in the unsafe -- he's
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in a safe position. to me, he is not in a position where he can claim any kind of defense that would justify having used deadly force. seems he can be prosecuted for voluntary manslaughter. and given that he shot her after she said she had fallen and she said she was pregnant, you can be prosecuted for murder. he has a lot of empathy, no question, because of his age and he's frail and all. but he did shoot these people, shoot at these people, after they fled, and shot the woman twice after she left the place, and one time perhaps after she said, i'm pregnant. he clearly has a criminal intent. i don't think the castle doctrine applies to him. >> you see the sling on his arm, had been assaulted, these people came in knocked him to the ground, it was brutal inside the house. he was clearly the victim that the point. do you agree with john, once they were out of the house and running from him, that he then loses the protection of the castle doctrine to chase the woman down and when on the
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ground to shoot her. >> he went from the perfect defendant, like a defense attorney's dream to a prosecutor's dream because there was that break in the events, joy. there was a factual break from when she's running away and therefore the reasonable's of his imminent fear of death ends. i agree with john. >> you have this other question, it will be fairly easy to determine whether or not this woman was pregnant because then you get into another area of law, a case in california a believe of a man who killed a pregnant fiancee, it also kicks in you're liable for the death of the fetus. if this woman was pregnant, could he be facing double charges? >> i think so. he could. also, depends how far along the child was. if it's a viable baby, you know, over three months, he could easily do that without much fear. but what she said, i had a baby, and there's a baby, i think he has double homicide facing him at that point in time. it could be two voluntary, one
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voluntary, one murder or two murders. seems to me that once he -- once she left and he flees and she's running and he shoots after she's fallen, all of the protections he had in the castle document are gone, and he's like any other person that commit a crime when somebody's fleeing. >> or what would be so interesting is that if the castle doctrine applied in terms of self-defense against the mother, so he could use that defense against the mother, but then he had no defense for the fetus, and from what i understand, the law will define any stage of pregnancy as a fetus. so that homicide statute will kick in. now, what's also interesting is because she said, i -- she said, i am pregnant, he heard that, so therefore he then created the intent to shoot her. he knew she was pregnant. >> i want to ask sort of a broader, big picture, john, these castle doctrine laws that
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we became familiar with them because of the trayvon martin case, you've had other cases, mcbride trial getting under way in michigan, but do you see a link between laws that broaden the latitude to where people can protect themselves with deadly force and just the attitude of gun owners that they actually have the option and they have the option even to pursue someone and then to shoot them? >> i think there certainly united states a link. i think stand your law grounds discussed nationally may not apply in california but i don't know if everybody doesn't know that. it emboldens people to think if you're placed in the situation you can alexander your grounds and/or pursue because you're standing your grounds. so i think that that is a misnomer that has happened over a period of time. and sort of a national perspective that people have generated. so it is wrong and i think that this is one of these political decisions that we have to be mindful of and make sure people
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understand the law. everyone doesn't know the law around stand your ground or the castle doctrine. everybody knows you can use self-defense in your own home to satisfy yourself. but outside of that home, most people know in california you didn't have a right to do that. >> even in states where the stand your ground law isn't on the books in that state, is there a sense that gun owners feel a bit more emboldened to use force? >> for the reasons john stated, people think stand your ground means i can be anywhere and do anything as long as i believe i have a right to be here and in some time of danger. people are not distinguishing between the castle and an area where you have a right to be, which is what we discussed with zimmerman, which is a very different case. >> appreciate it. next from the generation that fought for dr. king's dream to the generation defending the dream, a conversation with john lewis and phillip agnew. when folks think about what they get from alaska,
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be. i still think it is about fraud, as the court said, where there is none. name it for what it is. it's an attempt to prerepress minority vote, masquerade it as an attempt to end corruption. that was vice president joe biden speaking at national urban league conference this morning about recent republican efforts to block the vote, particularly that of minorities. which brings us to the topic of today's generation to generation, civil rights. recently, congressman john lewis and phillip act knagnew talked about the future of the civil rights movement in the u.s. >> john lewis, a member of the
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united states house of representatives. in 1964 i was the chair of the student nonviolent coordinating committee, better known as s. s.n.c.c. >> my name is phillip agnew, serve as director of the dream defenders in florida. started with the 40-mile march, the way civil rights legends marched and we decided to mar from daytona beach to florida. >> outside the sanford police department, an act of civil diso disodi disbodi disobedience forced the department to shut its doors. >> tell me why. >> it was after that, we wanted to start something that cannot only fight back against what we saw as attacks on our community,
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attacks on us, but also be able to bill an infrastructure so we could fight back against people in the legislature who don't respect us and don't reflect our values. >> bloody sunday, the event that turned the tide in the civil rights movement. >> a jon young john lewis, leader of the march. marching today to drama advertise to the nation, dramatize to the world, thousands of negro citizens of alabama, particularly here in the blightville area, denied the right to vote. >> ordered to disperse, go home, or go to your church. this march will not continue. >> we were prepared to put bodies on the line, to change america. but we were prepared to do what i call getting away, to get in trouble, good trouble, necessary
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trouble. >> a group known as the dream defenders have been staging a dramatic sit-in at the florida state capitol in tallahassee. >> for 31 days and 30 night the dream defenders octobcupied the state capitol of florida. we had a list of substantive demands, repeal of stand your ground, wanted to dismantle the pipeline and wanted to address racial profiling. almost a year late, a lot of great experiences and great learning, but to be frank we have a republican legislature that's not going to budge much. we have a lot more work to do, that's the number one lesson from the 31 days in the capitol. >> if it hadn't been for selma, the march, bloody sunday there wouldn't be a jimmy carter as president, a bill clinton or barack obama. selma helped bring about what like to call a nonviolent revolution in american politics, a revolution of values, a revolution of ideas.
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>> there's a huge physical and emotional toll on anybody who says that i want to break away from the normal and fight against a system and try to build something productive for people. we've got to be comfortable with being uncomfortable. >> and find a way to get in good trouble, necessary trouble, speak up. speak out. and if you see something that is not right, not fair, not just, do something about it. >> a little bit of insanity to believe that we can be the people that can change the course of history. a lot of amnesia to forget about any of the failures that we've had and continue to push forward. >> there's a modern civil rights movement, it made up of young people, people of color, women, members of the gay community,
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the disability community. >> the dreamers, fighting deportation, fighting separating their families, lgbt folks coming out of the shadows. >> the movement today saying we're one people, one family, we're one house. >> it's duty of every generation that people in the margins, young people, the poor, the people relegated to the shadows, to rise up and do the work that needs to be done. >> going to create one america and we all are going to move together. we're going to create what dr. king called a beloved community, people who redeem the soul of america. it's going to happen. it may not happen on my watch, it may not happen during my lifetime, but it will happen. and people should not be afraid of the future. >> congressman lewis and phillip agnew will be answering your questions online. visit the reidreportmsnbc.com.
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> policy or politic? former vice presidential candidate paul ryan, famous for the ryan budget, which repeatedly proposed to slash the social safety net, repeal obama care or turn medicare into a coupon, announced his latest project. aim, helping the poor. according to "the washington post," it's part of an effort to reorient the republican party away from battles of recent years and toward addressing economic anxiety of the most disadvantaged americans. the plan centers around so-called opportunity grants, i'll let ryan explain. >> i would start a pilot program
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called opportunity grant. it would consolidate up to 11 federal programs into one stream of funding to participating states and a state would get more flexibility, get to combine into one funding stream up to 11 different programs. things like food stamps, housing assistance, child care, cash welfare. >> now, as charles blow points out in his column, opportunity grant is a fancy word for block grant, an idea that caught on kit conservatives in mid 1990s after republicans took over in the house in the '94 midterms. sheer wrote na a republican drive code name defund the left aims to disrupt the liberal flaufr that supports legacy of the new deal. conservatives are preparing to storm the rampants of the welfare industrial complex, iron triangle of federal departments and agencies, liberaled av advo groups and allies in congress. they fuel the government's
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runaway spending. dismandling big washington, a key goal of the contract with america. defunding the left focused on recipients like headstart preschools or the home of ses 15ty street, the right, the positive voice of the welfare industrial complex. privatization coulden used to cut sociale advocacy groups out of the money loop by replacing them for-profit contractors. block grants to the states that could be used to achieve the same end. today, block grants are in fashion on the right as primary means to move money out of the federal government and into the states. we're not coincidentally, some of the poorest states in the country vote for republican presidential candidates, have republican governors and republican-controlled state houses, many are the same states that refuse to expand medicaid under the affordable care act
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which would have extended health care to low income americans. what can possibly go wrong? yeah, what can go wrong? that wraps things up for "the reid report." visit us online. "the cycle" is next. sigeliaying cycles. >> three planes down in just one week, someone who is afraid to fly, we'll get what is going on there. we have luke russert, talking about gaza, the mood on the hill, when it comes to that situation april segment about millennials and political views and how they're confusing. i'm going to rant -- a rant for president obama, how he's experiencing what i like to call, the six-year blues. >> that sounds like a good look. "the cycle" next. [ female announcer ] rock a 3d white smile. with crest 3d white luxe toothpaste. only crest 3d white has whitelock technology. it removes stains within the microfine lines of your teeth... and locks out future stains. crest 3d white luxe toothpaste. life opens up with a whiter smile.
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cycling right now, major developments in the aviation world. another commercial flight crashes, this one in africa. possible wreckage of missing air algerie flight 5017 has been spotted in the car zone of northern mali, was it weather or plane maintenance or terrorism. the dutch received bodies of 40 more victims and search for the remain of nearly 100 others inside eastern ukraine. asia, the investigation starts in taiwan, the trans-asia airways turboprop that crashed wednesday. 48 people died there. three planes, 450 victims in one week, what is happening. on a daily basis there are 100,000 commercial flights in the air flying 50,000 different routes. of course, we only report the problems. the u.n.'s international aviation organization is calling its 191-member countries to together next week to discuss the problems.
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we start with tom costello who covers aviation. start in mali, is what the latest there? >> the latest, there are differing reports as to whether they do or don't have the wreckage, whether they found the wreckagen this was flight 5017, from burkina faso to al gear, 116 on board. we had an algerian officialerly on saying he knew for sure the plane had crashed but weren't sure why they knew that. the plane left at 1:17 local time, set to arrive 5:10 a.m. but disappeared 50 minutes into the flight. and as you mentioned, we believe the plane went down in the deserts of mali there was a report that the pilot tried to get around a bad storm, a sandstorm, it would appear. half of the passengers on board the flight are french citizens. we're told this was an md-83 flying over, as you mentioned, northern mali, where mighting continues, especially in the north. experts say fighters
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