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99 hours to see whether the congress can breakthrough including the possibility on immigrati immigration. relative calm for now israel and gaza as the u.n. calls for cease-fire in an emergency session. meantime the impact at home. i'll introduce you to two men in florida on either side of this con flick who refuse to hate. and the ebola outbreak. a frightening reality that claimed more than 600 lives across at least three countries and infected a pair of americans working in liberia. i'll lay out the facts on this monday, 28th of july. good morning, i'm jose diaz-balart. the first focus. time is running out to find a solution to the border crisis. this time next week, congress members lch watching the show
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from home. minors will be crossing the border still. >> he has a lot of time to do other thins than play politics. they're trying to fundraise off it. at some point the president should say do we want to solve the problem? i want to solve the problem. i'm going it stay working until we get it done. >> washington debates every state is involved in the crisis. according to the new data minors are being housed in every state across the country. texas housing the most followed by new york, california, florida, and virginia through the first week in july. over the weekend democratic chicago mayor rahm emmanuel said his city will be hosting up to 1,000 of the children. jerry brown heads to mexico today. he'll meeting with mexican president to discuss the crisis pouring into his state. back in washington the white house is indicating the president will take action
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before his own before the end of the summer hosting the presidents of honduras, el salvador, and guatemala. after the meeting i sat down with the graduate mall lane president. he talked about the origin of the crisis. he said it had to do with the immigration reform debate in the united states. >> translator: this was triggered once the conversation about immigration reform began in the u.s. with malicious and bad intentions. the coyotes and traffickers began to sell the idea to graduate ma guatemala that whoever comes to the u.s. will benefit. which is untrue. >> let me speak with editor of the new york news. >> thank you so much. congratulations on your show. >> thank you so much.
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sand sandra, what did the president accomplish with the meeting? >> it's important. we have to remember it's not a u.s. issue and it's not a latin america issue. it's a joint issue. there are so many things my colleague did an article last week. she interviewed expert os. the region. everything from drug trafficking to the fact that families are separated by orders to our policy there for the past decade it's all connected. i think it sent a really strong message it has to be a regional and u.s. issue together. short term and long-term. >> in terms what the president might do, the idea of granting refugee status to a small group of central american minors was floated on friday. is it a feasible solution? >> first of all, the administration has been clear that is a proposal that they're floating. it's not a definitive thing. and the way it might work bay way a small pilot program. children and families of
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honduras would be able to ask and say that hopefully they could gate trafficking visa or something if they are the victims of a violation of trafficking. again, but a small pilot program. if it happens, it's difficult because they're not easy things to get, by the way. >> sandra, we have talked about it for years. i've spoken with the president over and over again over the last five years about what he could or should be doing unilaterally. he told me over and over again he's president and he's not king. there are some things he can't do. but in terms of what he could do in the future, one of the things is possibly letting parents of u.s.-born children stay in this country, at least temporarily. those are issues that the president is certainly looking at right had, right? >> it's interesting. we've been reporting on it. if we look at the polls here in the country. most americans believe that someone who has been in the country for many years who has not tried to go back and forth,
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for example, and who has been living here without any crime should be a lowed a long path to some sort of legalization. in a way, since it looks like congress is not passing anything this year, even though there was the bipartisan bill in the senate. even though there are legislators in the house that want this. i think it's a way of getting closer to what the american people want and immigration and business community, by the way, and the religious community have been asking for for many years. >> politically, when he acts, as he said he will, all hell is going to break loose on capitol hill. let's talk about capitol hill. no real immigration reform out of the house this session. is there something that maybe we think could happen by before they gone the recess? as far as, for example, dealing with the crisis on the board ensure. >> well you know, there's the house working group lead by cay granger from texas. they put out stuff to help with the border children crisis. less than $1 billion of the
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administration, the administration asked for $3.7 billion. starting with that is something some people would hope would process the children. give them more access to immigration judges. i think a lot of people are hoping at least that gets passed by the end of the week. >> sandra lilley. thank you. >> we go to indiana republican congressman luke messer. thank you for being with us. >> glad to be here, jose. thank you for having me. >> do you think anything will be done to deal with this specific issue of the border crisis before you all go on your summer break? >> yeah, i think it should. i'm optimistic it will happen. we'll have a bill as the person is speaking just before us said. i think it will be around $1 billion. it'll focus on being able to provide relief, speed up the processing these young people on the border try to include some border security and try to help the countries that will be receiving these children back.
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process them on the other side as well. >> and how do you think they could best be aided or helped? these countries? >> well, i mean, i think there's nothing compassionate about the current system that is encouraging folks to trek across the desert and appalling conditions and great danger. we need to send a clear message. the president himself said most of the young people will be sent back. it should be processed in a way that is consistent as our values as americans. those who can claim asylum should be able to do that. we need to act now, i believe you'll see the house act this week. frankly, it's not clear whether the senate will be able to pull together the voting majority they need to act this week either. >> hhs published numbers at the end of last week that show even indiana has some of the kids. 245 as of the beginning of the month. and the washington post reported over the weekend that the kids are being shuttled from the border from housing all over the country back to texas for the
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court dates. it seems so expensive and unorganized. how do we best handle the process? >> without any action, the processing and making sure each child has a hearing can take years. it ought to be closer to 5 to 7 days. as you described, it's now a national problem. because these young people are being taken all over the country. you know, i'm a parent. i have kids that are 11, 10, and 7. so you can't help but have your heart go out to these young people. there's nothing compassionate about the current process. we need to make clear the message that there is no special change in the law, and that you can't come here illegally. we need to process these young people in a way that is consistent with our values as americans. we need to send them back where they can be safe, hopefully at home in their own country. >> i don't know if they will be safe in their home country. that's a question we have to deal with. the president is saying he's going to be act unilaterally on the immigration because the failure of the republican house
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to deal with immigration reform this year. i said all hell is going to break loose as far as what the republicans are going to do. what do you think the reaction will be? is. >> the president needs to act in compliance with the law. he said that before. there's no reason to change it now. clearly have other areas of disagreement in the public policy where the president acted unilaterally. our heart goes out to these people. we need to pass a law and bill in the house that helps deal with the near term crisis. we need to look at the separate issue of broader term reform. we have to secure or border. i believe we need a working work visa program that is authentically enforceable that help our economy and national security as well. the time to do that is once we get past the crisis. >> why is it it takes so long to
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deal with the issues? this is a crisis that didn't just start with the 58,000 kids koszing the border in october. it seems like the house talks and talks and doesn't do anything about it. one way or another on one issue or another. you guys are just talking >>well, listen, the president had a change in policy. the way we handle these young people dispersing them out to the country that contributed to the large influx. tens of thousands of young people who have made this decision. i believe the real hangup here is the president insistence on blanket citizenship for more than 10 million folks here in violation of the law. if we stay focussed on a work visa program that has legal status attached to it and border security. there's opportunities to find a bill that would work here. listen, nobody is happy with the status quo. americans clearly believe that something needs to be done. i stand ready to try to work on it >>well, there's five days left. let's see how to works out.
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thank you very much, congressman messer, for being with us. >> glad to be here. lightning strikes, a tornado, and wild fire danger. let's zoom through some of today's top stories. a 20-year-old man dead after a very rare lightning strike in california's venice beach. 13 others hurt including a teen ajter. the man was swimming when he felt the shock hit him in the water. >> i was struggling to get my head above the water. thank god they were brave enough to jump in and not hesitate. >> it was 16th death by lightning strike in the u.s. this year. the first in california. powerful storms including one possible tornado ripped through northern tennessee leaving behind major damage. at least ten homes destroyed. officials set up a command post. a school is open for anyone left homeless. severe storms with high winds and large hail are still a threat today for about 6 million people throughout the southeast. an unusually active jet stream
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has been causing extreme weather. things will start quieting down tomorrow. in northern california, the problem is dry weather. firefighters are making some progress against the sand fire in severe ya nevada foothills. 13 homes have been destroyed. there are 500 others at risk. officials say the fire started friday when a vehicle drove over dry vegetation. a momentary call between israel and gaza. the answer doesn't always have to be hate. it's the message about the conflict coming from my two next guests. i'll introduce them in a few minutes. hey! i found my true love, livin' in a sweet dream. singin' my favorite song and it all starts with you. whoa-oh-oh-oh, all this goodness...
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it is time for unconditional cease-fire. in the name of humanity, the violence must stop. >> u.n. secretary general just moments ago as international efforts intensified to end a three-week war between israel and hamas in gaza. the death toll tops 1,000. overnight the israeli military said it carried out three air strikes hitting hamas rocket launchers. it was in response to a hamas rocket launched into israel early this morning. at the emergency midnight meeting the u.n. security council called for a humanitarian cease-fire. >> agree to five cease-fire proposals. hamas rejected or broke all the ones even the ones they requested by themselves. >> and to return to the
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situation before this aggression is not sustainable. >> nbc ayman mohyeldin is on the ground in gaza city with the latest developments. ayman, good morning. >> good morning, jose. a short while ago, about 15 minutes ago we heard a loud explosion, which appeared to be an air strike. it happened in the vicinity of the hospital just off to my right shoulder here in the green area. according to sources on the ground, including our nbc news crew who is actually out there filming right now, there are several casualties. most of them children. most of the shelling that you can hear the thumping behind me has been concentrated on the eastern part of the gaza strip. this one was right in the heart of gaza city. more alarming, it was within meters of the hospital. the largest hospital here in the entire territory. according to reports on the ground, again, it was the target seemed to have hit the outpatient clinic facility at the hospital. that is one of the reasons we're
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hearing about so many casualties. we don't have number of fatalities yet. our nbc crew on the ground is reporting among those injured are children. there are some reports there may be fatalities. we'll get the update as soon as we can. it give use a sense it calls for truce and calm by the united nations and others in the international community. gaza remains engaged in the ongoing battle. we've been hearing the sounds of strikes throughout the morning and well into the afternoon, jose. >> and ayman, when we talk about truces and some have lasted hours. some apparently just minutes. what is the population do? how do people react when there is a lull short -- al bee it short in the violence? >> well, as soon as there's a chance for people to feel safe enough to go out of their homes, most of the time they're spending it doing one of two things. those not affected directly are trying to stock up on food and medicine.
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making sure they have what they need to get through the next day or two. that's of critical importance. those have lost some of their homes in the neighborhoods destroyed. they go back to look for retives or get whatever they can so they can carry-on with their lives for a few days. it's about survival and that is how people spend their time when they have a few hours of relative calm. as you're hearing behind me with the shells, it doesn't seem to be happening or holding throughout the day today, jose. >> nbc ayman mohyeldin. thank you for being with us. as fighting continues we see new and ugly signs of hate in south florida. neighborhood watch volunteers found swasticas and hamas spray painted outside the doors. it follows another antisemitic vandalism in miami beach. joining me is shalom and
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mohamed. they happen to be best of friends despite you having strong disagreements about issues like what we talked about this morning. thank you for being with us. >> thank you for having us. >> talk to me about how you fight hate when it seems as though it's the easy thing to do when you have such big differences. >> right. it's always the easy thing to do hate someone. right. but the hard thing to do is to really see the common ground you have with another individual. that's what i think our message is about. to really get out to everyone and say stop the hate. stop the stereo types. stop the generallizations and preconceived notions and view us as human. all of us. >> you are among the best friends. and yet you come from different perspectives. you come from different life experiences. how do you bridge those differences that are so cutting? that are so real? >> well, i think a lot of people want to focus on the differences, and, you know, that's not the proper approach to take. me and shalom found although we
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have differences and our opinions may differ in regards to the conflict, our similarities outweigh our differences. we have a lot more commonali commonalities. we're trying to show the world, israel, palestinian, even the united states. we're human and we have more commonalities than differences. we need to highlight that and focus on it. >> how have you done it? you spread the message through social media. give us an example what you've been doing. >> we take pictures with israeli flags and palestinian flags. we've gotten and received so much support. of course you have haters. it's everywhere. >> it's going around. >> we try not to spew that hate backwards. so, for example, like last night when i posted a picture of us with israeli and palestinian flag, we had a hater, you know, who was spewing some antisemitic sentiments, and we said we bless
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you and we hope that, you know, you find happiness. we truly believe that happiness will overcome hate. and love conquers all. >> mohamed, what do you see when you get the same kind of dispute about you and the muslims? >> you know, i've had people call me a terrorist. i've had people tell me i'm a terrorist supporter. that's fine but i don't want to meet aggression with aggression. i don't want to meet enemy with enemy. the only way to win is by showing peace. and changing these people's opinions and showing we can live in harmony together. >> how do you that on both sides. i was talking to friends over the weekend. they visited israeli soldiers that had been maimed friend of mine said someone i know lost a family member in gaza through these mortar attacks. how do you tell people like that that even if they have personal reasons to hate, they need to
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find a way to love? >> so, i have family in israel, and i also have friends that are fighting in the idf. so it hits close to home for me. it's powerful what is going on right now. and what we're trying to do is stay away from the generalizations of branding everyone in one group in a category. that's our message. we don't see much in the media about peace and unity. that's what we're trying to do. >> it's hard, especially when you talk pot peopto the people personal feelings. an eye for an eye makes the world go behilind. the way forward is not grieving and holding a grudge. the only way forward is trying to solve the problems so that way families in the future don't have to deal with that same feeling or enemy that may person
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may be feeling. >> i think you should be on the plane over there to the middle east in secretary kerry's plane. >> i would love to -- we wanted to -- we were discussing in the car ride here. we wanted our show. for the love of shalom. >> there you go! >> thank you, guys. thank you for being with us. >> we appreciate what you're doing. we're going to take a quick break. when we come back, a team of investigators for flight 17 turn back by the sound of gunfire. we'll go live to ukraine for a report. have you been listening about the ebola outbreak? doctors are trying to treat it. we'll talk to the head of the doctors as the epidemic intensifies. vo: this is the summer. the summer of this. the summer that summers from here on will be compared to.
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russian separatists thwarted efforts to secure the crash scene of malaysian airlines flight 17 in eastern ukraine. we are live in do domestic he witnessed international authorities being turned away. tell us what you thought when the investors tried to arrive. >> reporter: well, there they were trying to get there. we saw them in their long convey, a large number of them. they were dutch and australian. investigators there as well as the monitors who have been here over the past week. we're trying to get there ourselves, first. we were turned back at the check point. at the distance we could hear a tank fire, mortars, and then the investigators, the monitors and their convoy came we. we followed them through the check point. they pulled over to the side of the road because they came across the front line, i mean, they were right faced with the fighting. where we pulled over, we could see ukrainian -- pro-russian separatists dug in and pointing
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their guns at the ukrainian military on the other side of the front line. they were literally there. they negotiated to try to get the fighting to stop for a short time so they could get through. they thought they had done that and they set off into the temporary cease-fire only to find that they say once they were a little way through, the gunfire began again. the artillery and the mortar rounds. they were stuck in the middle of it. the artillery getting closer and closer to them. they had to turn around and go back. jose, they are getting increasingly furious. one the monitors describing himself as sick and tired. they've been able to get the crash site but not enough numbers to collect personal belongings, and collect the wreckage to get it where they can analyze it and collect human remains that might be there. incredibly frustrating. this war is justice clad i esca
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>> what a horrible situation. thank you for with us this morning. for morn nationals are joining the u.s. in e evacuating their teams from libya. at least 36 people were killed in the eastern city of benghazi when libyan special forces and islamist militants clashed over the weekend. now to the deadly outbreak on ebola outbreak. two americans working for an american group have been infected with the virus. more than 670 cases at least three africa countries have ended in death. what may be most alarming, a new york times report, many villagers now don't want doctors coming in to help. they fear they may be carrying infections. i want to bring in dr. jansen.
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director of doctors without borders. the u.s. times had a quote about 17-year-old youth leaders about doctors working in the country. the times reported that the 17-year-old specifically cited doctors without borders. how is your organization responding to this epidemic? >> we have indeed seen such incidents. luckily, they remain rather isolated. and most places our teams don't work well in the communities that are infected. it's true, ebola is fearful and mist terous. a lot of rumors can quickly create more difficulties for the teams as we have seen sometimes. and specifically now in liberia and sierra leone, the situation is getting difficult. this might get worse.
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>> doctor, i was reading that the worker who got ebola, the american, her job is to help doctors get out of their protective clothing once they've been in contact with ebola victims. so how does this happen? how does someone not even in the front lines but helping to remove the outer garments of doctors get ebola? the stuff is really contagious. >> it is a contagious disease. that's the for sure. and absolute very strict and correct issues of value need to be maintained. that's how we have managed in our teams since february to protect all health workers. it is importantrema remain extremely careful. the disease is spreading further. >> and, doctor, most people up to 60, 70% of the people get it
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die. there's no cure for this, right? >> there is indeed no known cure for this disease. what we do now is if patients are early in the disease, in a treatment center, they seem to have a better chance of survival. the problem now is that specific liberia, there's not enough capacity to bring people to treatments or to measure exactly where the disease is spreading. >> if there's not enough facilities, it seems to be that the concern that this stuff is going to grow. thank you, doctor, for being with us this morning. >> okay. coming up. i will turn back to immigration. i've been asking you the question what is the solution to the border crisis? two people trying to answer that very question will be here next.
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[ barks ] five days. that's all that is left for congress to agree on the bill addressing the bill at the border. right now an agreement in the air as congress continues to come up with a way to address it. let's talk about the long-term solution should look like. i want to bring in two people working on their own solutions. center for american progress president and a dreamer a codirector of the dream action coalition. thank you, both of you for being here. i want to start with you neera. your organization released a report last week specific ideas for a possible way forward that includes turning kids who enter the us over to the office of refugee settlement providing court appointed counsel for kids, and speeding up the process. and developing in-cunning processing programs that allow kids and others to make refugee
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claims in their home countries. how do you think these recommendations help get at the root of the problem here? >> well, i mean, our analysis is that a lot of these children are fleeing the most dangerous situations. they're fleeing the possibilities of death. and so we need a system and we need to create a system in which we can truthfully and accurately adjudicate the claims that a lot of these kids have. we're talking about children, 5, 6, 7, 8 years old who are making really desperate, desperate attempts to to get into the u.s. only because their parents think their lives are in danger. we think there needs to be a faster process to adjudicate the claims. it's going to take more resources. and we're happy to sea over the weekend the administration is thinking about how to have in-country assessments like in honduras. so i hope there will be a
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resolution that addresses the concerns of these kids and getting their claims properly adjudica adjudicated. >> and back a bill by 300 -- if this went through. but really seems as though it's an uphill climb in the republican-controlled house. why back something that may never see the light of day. >> what we're seeing is a resolution for the president to act on this. the president has authority, legal authority by congress that says if you find in the national interest to allow anyone who is a noncitizens to sefb in the military. whether it's language or necessary other skills, then the president has authority to say then people can enlist. i think what we're focus -- not so much on congress and congress has done nothing pretty much on anything on immigration. the president can do a lot. i think that's the main call we're asking. the president should not only allow dreamers to serve in the
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military like myself, but also for the president to act to stop the deor itatiportation and kee families together. and other organizations that have conversations with the white house to make sure we don't have anything lower. >> caesar, let's say there are 11, 12 million folks that live in the country without documentation. what do you think the president should do when he he has already given some kids that were brought here through no fault of their own d aka? what do you think the president could do? an executive order isn't going to be an easy thing for republicans to swallow if it brings in millions of people from under the shadows. >> i talk about my family. me and my younger brother a few who are undocumented. the rest of my family is citizens. my mother is undocumented. the most important message, it's
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our parents. the recent i'm have candidatie i -- advocating is not a political career but simply i care about my mother. if the president protects my mother, i can guarantee my sister will out just as they did in 2012. it was the first time they came out because the president did in 2012 to protect dreamers. if the president takes action again, it's across a country. we have millions of families whose spouses are veterans, but their loved ones are undocumented. i think we'll see a major action of protecting and keeping families together. >> neera, do you think that is something the president is going to do. something as vast as bringing in, i don't know the parents of daca children and legalizing them temporarily? >> look, you know, we support expansive action on this front. we should also recognize that the real thing, the right course for everybody is for us to pass
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comprehensive bill. that gives a path to citizenship, over years, but a path to citizenship for every -- for all the people undocumented today including caesar's family. so i think that we strongly support taking the action that can be taken to alleviate the stress on parents and family members and we recognize that this is a tragedy that is really that people are feeling every day. but at the end of the day the truth is that we can't -- this will be a half loaf in comparison to a comprehensive bill. we should take pressure off house republicans for doing nothing to solve the problem. >> neera, you heard the president of guatemala in my interview yesterday, he said part of the wave was prompted by the coyotes and the organizations that are taking advantage of news reports. we're talking about possible immigration reform and saying look now is a time to come in. do you fear in the future with
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the discussion of unilateral action by the president on immigration reform it could create another wave of people using that news to exploit the neediest? >> i think we're seeing that what is happening with the border crisis that it's affecting a whole range of countries. there's a 700% increase in the neighborhooding countries. not the united states but neighboring countries. there's a real crisis. parents are scared to death if they're sending these children on these really, you know, very terrifying trips to the border. so i actually think the most important thing is that to address those challenges right now. but i think it's an excuse to say comprehensive immigration reform would be some kind of problem. the president has been aggressive on deportation and it is -- we're seeing it's not having an effect. we have the border crisis even
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here in south florida for the second time in eight days a judge rules against the state's same-sex marriage ban calling it unconstitutional. friday's ruling only applies to miami decade county. last week a florida keys judge made a similar discussion. they ruled that 2008 constitutional amendment approved by florida voters discriminates against gay people. 31 states plus puerto rico has a same-sex marriage ban. more than 70 cases are challenging the bans across the country. one of the couples that sued for -- they join me along with the attorney. thank you for being with us. >> thank you. >> why did you end up on the front lines of this battle? how did you get involved in the front lines of the battle? >> you know, i can't explain how
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we got involved, and how it happened, but we're very grateful to be here and to be fighting for our rights as human beings. >> tell me about that fight. why is it so important and what are the issues you really need to see? >> you know, we're a couple who has been together for eight and a half years. and south florida is our home. we have a 5-year-old son we adopted five years ago as a newborn, and naturally as a couple we love each other. we want to be married. we deserve that. our son deserves that. and we want to move forward. we could have chosen another route. we could have gotten married in another state that has legalized gay marriage. why? florida is the place we live, work, own a home. so we deserve that right here. we're moving forward with, you know, us getting married and potentially helping every gay and lesbian couple who wants to get married in the state of florida. >> tell us about what the ruling
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means on friday and the next steps. the attorney general almost stepped in immediately after the judge's ruling. >> indeed. there was an appeal filed almost immediately, you're correct. we couldn't be more pleased with the ruling. it's important to get a great ruling from a trial court when you're expecting an appeal. so you have a great foundation, really something wonderful to work with. and this opinion couldn't be greater. the judge did a meticulous, really thorough analysis of the arguments for, especially against marriage equality and dispensed with these arguments that have failed. this is now the 28th consecutive decision since june 2013 in favor of marriage equality. no losses. let's hope it remains that way. the opinion was strong finding not only does the marriage ban violate due process and equal protections from the u.s.
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constitution but took an extra step and said the bans offend basic human dignity. so true. >> and what would you say to the folks who say, listen, the people of the state of florida spoke and said this is how we want to live our lives as citizens and residents of the state of florida? >> well, i think a few things. first of all, i think the times have changed. since 2008, i think people have evolved. more folks have gotten to know people like havehave and gotte they're your lawyers, friends, doctors. the other thing there's a essential flaw in the concept of voting on people's rights. these are not -- these are inalienable rights, marriage, as the judge found is a fundamental right and cannot be taken away. majority rule is great when it affects everyone equally.
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>> and this decision on friday really has an direct impact on your possible future. >> sure. we have to move forward. there's an immediate stay. we can't get married yet. we're hopeful that this year, if not maybe the beginning of next year we'll be able to get married. >> we'll stay on the story. i want to have you back. >> thank you so much. >> and that wraps up this hour on msnbc. i want to thank you for the privilege of your time and, you know, you're welcome to give us your opinions however you think we're doing and the concepts that we're handling. i would love to hear your opinions on that. you do throughout our different sites. next on "newsnation," more on the breaking news. the air strike just outside of gaza's main hospital. a live report is just ahmed. -- ahead. at legalzoom you can take care of
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good morning, everyone. i'm tamron hall. this is "newsnation." we're following breaking news in the middle east. there's an been air strike outside gaza's main hospital. we want to wash you some of the imaging coming into us are disturbing. our nbc news team on the ground in gaza is reporting numerous casualties and injuries. many of which are children. you can see the chaotic scene as adults scramble to bring the children inside the hospital. just in the past hour, u.n. secretary general urged for the violence to end in the name of humanity. ayman mohyeldin joins us from gaza with the latest. what can you tell us about the latest strike near the hospital? >> we've learned in the past hour and 15 minutes, there were two separate attacks. two separate israeli strikes
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that almost happened simultaneously. there was one at the outpatient clinic center at the schiff fa hospital, the largest medical complex in the gaza strip. it happened at 5:00 p.m. local time. at the same time north of where we were, there was another israeli air strike. the victims from both of these air strikes were coming into the hospital at the same time. those are the images you're seeing. right now it is very difficult to get an accurate death toll from palestinian medical officials who are dealing with the influx of patients. but nbc news had a crew at the hospital. they filmed at least 30 separate bodies, 30 separate casualties that were brought into the hospital. the vast majority of those, according to our nbc crew on the ground were children. again, we have to emphasize. these are casualties. some of them were fatalities, some were injured. we don't have an accurate break down how many were killed and how many are injured. that's what we confirmed on the ground just by beingt

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