tv Andrea Mitchell Reports MSNBC July 28, 2014 9:00am-10:01am PDT
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in the name of humanity, the violence must stop. >> will the israelis and palestinians listen to the call for another halt in the firing. >> we have accepted five cease-fires, acted upon them, hamas has rejected every single one of them. violated them, including two humanitarian cease-fires which we accepted and implemented in the last 24 hours. now hamas is suggesting a cease-fire and, believe it or not, they've even violated their own cease-fire. so they continue to fire at us and, of course, we'll take the necessary action to protect ourselves. >> translator: we are not fanatics. we are not fundamentalists. we are not actually fight the jews because they are jews. we not fight any other races. we fight the occupiers. on the contrary, we actually expect the religious people -- >> it's one thing to say you want to co-exist with the jews and another to say you want to
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co-exist with the state of israel? do you want to co-exist with the state of israel? do you want to represent -- do you want to recognize israel as a jewish state? >> translator: no. >> fire zone. renewed fighting between pro-russian separatists and ukraine's military stop international monitors from getting to the crash site again. >> the monitors have been stopped in the road just up here further up. we've heard fighting, tank fire, mortars. clashes between the separatists and the ukrainian military. and the next generation. national security adviser susan rice joining us from a summit of 500 young african leaders meeting here today with the president. president obama today renaming that program in honor of one of his role models. >> the spirit of this program reflects his optimism, his idealism, his belief in what he called the endless heroism of
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youth. and so today with the blessing of the mandela family to whom we're so grateful, we are proud to announce the new name of this program is the mandela washington fellowship. good day. i'm andrea mitchell in washington. on a day when we also have news on ebola. new outglak break in liberia. two americans affected. more violence and destruction in gaza today after the failure of a cease-fire. but there are disputes over the cause of one of the attacks just a few hours ago near a hospital. this after two rockets fired at israel by hamas earlier today. despite a u.n. security council midnight meeting pressing both sides to halt the rocket fire.
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u.n. secretary-general ban ki-moon said that the obstacles to a cease-fire are a matter of political will on both sides. >> they have to show their humanity as leaders. both israelis and palestinians. i have been urging really first and foremost, stop the fighting. then sit down together. then address all the recourses. put all the recourses on the line. issues on the table. >> for the very latest, i'm joined by nbc's martin fletcher from tel aviv and gaza. ayman mohyeldin. first to you, martin. the idea if the israeli defense force is disputing reports that an attack near a hospital today which caused many civilian casualties apparently had come from israel's side. they say it's from a failed hamas rocket. can you clarify it all or is this still in dispute? >> well, that's what the -- the
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israeli army is saying very clearly and by the way, they responded very quickly, almost immediately after the rocket attack. they said it wasn't us. we weren't operating in the area at the time. they said there was two failed rockets. one failed near the hospital in gaza, the main hospital. and one fell on the refugee camp only about five minutes drive away from the hospital. so two rockets hit those two places. israel says they were failed rock rockets. i believe they said they were fired not by hamas but by the other islamic militant organization, jihad. they say it wasn't israeli fire. it's interesting they responded so quickly and so immediately saying that. so whereas the other day when the rockets hit the u.n. school it took them a very long time to respond. they said they're investigating. this time a very quick, clear statement that israel was not responsible. >> and martin, just moments ago, martin and ayman both if you could listen to john kerry who spoke at an annual report on religious conflict. a mandated report that comes from the state department every year. he mentioned the failure of the
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cease-fire talks he'd been engineering in the last week. let's watch. >> we believe the momentum generated by a humanitarian cease-fire is the best way to be able to begin to negotiate and find out if you can put in place a sustainable cease-fire. one that addresses all of the concerns. the long-term concerns as well. begin to talk about the underlying causes of the conflict in gaza, though those obviously will not all be resolved in the context of a cease-fire, sustainable cease-fire discussion. but it is important to try to build to bigin and to move in a process. and that's what we're trying achieve. that is the only way ultimately this conflict is going to be resolved. >> ayman mohyeldin in gaza, there are reports from all sides
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of increasing tension between the administration and netanyahu because of the civilian deaths. and reports from israeli commentators that an american commentators that hamas may be winning the political war if not the war on the ground. but the people on both sides, the people, not their leaders, are the ones who are really experiencing the death, the horror of all of this. is there any sign any of pressure on hamas, hamas leaders, to stop the rocket attacks? >> well, hamas officials have been very clear. we've had a chance to speak to several of them. we've posed that question. how much more of the civilian population dying could they handle before they have to compromise on their positions. and their point has been repeatedly that there is no life worth living if you are living it under siege. now that point is meant to reiterate that they feel this is a struggle that all of the palestinian people support. and that is certainly something that is constantly echoed when
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you go out and speak to ordinary palestinians. that seven years of living under siege, under blockade and cease-fires. they now feel that their backs are up against a wall. if nothing changed then you have to fight until the very end. it's a position echoed by many and it's a position taken by the palestinian factions. they've been down this road. been promised by the international community to work on a lifting of the siege. that hasn't materialized. and that's why for them now this is an extensial fight either to break the siege for once or for all or to continue fighting. >> thanks to ayman mohyeldin and martin fletcher as well. and a second american now has tested positive for the potentially deadly ebola virus will working in africa for part of a samaritan human tan area mission there. the death toll is now 70. there's fear the virus could be spreading even to more populated areas. the americans are among 100 health care workers now infected. >> we're all sort of devastated
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by it. but at the same time, we find room for optimism because in both cases, the disease was not only diagnosed very quickly, but we were able to begin intensive supportive care. >> dr. frank esper is an infectious disease expert at university hospitals cleveland. thank you for helping to explain this emergency. >> it's good to be here, andrea. >> thank you. i know there's no vaccine but this was early diagnosis for the two americans at least. how much concern should we have. and the family of one of the victims is back in the states, left for texas. so what about transportation and the possibility of it spreading to the u.s. >> so the disease itself is not a very contagious disease until you get to a very debilitated state. it's not really contagious until the very end.
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and so that's one of the reasons why ebola itself has been very much confined to this region of the world where it does not have the ability to truly spread like a bad flu strain or a bad pandemic. what we do know is that when they caught the virus infection in those two americans they caught it in a very early stage. so they themselves were not very contagious at that point. and if you can really support the patient and prevent the bad down stream problems that come from ebola virus, you can actually prevent very, very bad, more, you know, bad death and bad disability. and we've actually seen that in this particular outbreak. the mortality is actually less than what we have seen in past. and that's because of the early identification. >> what is the incubation period? should there be flight controls or testing before people get on airplanes to leave these countries? >> you know, the incubation
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period could be for about 7 to 10 days. during that time people usually feel like they are sick but they don't necessarily believe they have this particular virus. they feel they have a virus. i've come down with a cold. i have the flu. fevers and some belly pains and some cough or nausea. but they don't really present with true ebola where you actually see a lot of the blood clotting problems. bruises. red eyes. you are coughing up blood, blood in your urine. that really doesn't happen until the very, very end when people get really, really sick very quickly. >> and again, the way to test for this? how can -- >> we have a lot of ways. we can test the blood fairly early on using very sophisticated tests that would test for the dna of the virus. look for the presence of the virus. we can look for the antibodies of the virus but that usually
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doesn't happen for another week after the patient has been infected. most of the tests, the really quick tests, we're detecting the dna of the virus and looking for several changes in the blood itself. >> and doctor, and what is the treatment? >> right now there is no treatment. we can't cure the virus infe infection itself. we support the body until the body's own immune system is able to kill the virus. and the body's immune system can kill the virus but more time than not the virus causes such a problem with the blood that the body can't live in order to kill the virus. and so if we support the body and we support the body's ability and the body's ability to breathe and give them fluids and give them a little nutrition, eventually the body itself can eradicate the virus just with its own immune system. >> dr. frank espen, thank you from university hospitals in cleveland. appreciate it. >> glad to be here.
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it's a hot war now. escalating clashes between russian separatists and government forces in eastern ukraine. interfering with international monitors still trying to get access to the crash site of mh-17. earlier today, a convoy of 20 cars carrying dutch and australian investigators to the crash site was forced to head back to donetsk after heavy gun and artillery fire along the route. this as president obama has been calling european leaders urging a coordinated sanctions hit
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against russia. in a rare williams, the state department publicized satellite pictures this weekend of a russian base near the border showing a build-up of heavy weapons the u.s. says are destined for eastern ukraun separatists. joining me from houston is dutch american journalist. and michael lighter joining me here in washington. michael voss, let me go first to you and ask just how frustrated are the dutch after this horror which proportionately is their 9/11. your country's 9/11. how frustrated are they and how willing are they to stand up to vladimir putin? the dutch, the netherlands are the third largest trading partner behind china, i believe, and one other with putin. and he has been a welcome guest in the netherlands a year ago. >> yes, we are the third largest partner, trading partner behind, i think china and germany.
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so we are frustrated. and we are limited in what we can do. we are small. we are twice the size of new york city. 16 million people. and we don't have the bully bull pit that the american presidency has. we speak softly and carry not a big stick but a small stick so we're not the teddy roosevelt. we can't force russia to do something. we don't have the economic or financial power to push the soviet union or the russia rather into a certain behavior that we would like to see because we have such extensive trade partnerships with russia. and thirdly, we don't have the availability as ready as the americans have of a military answer. we don't have the sort of 1-800-marines call culture of like, we're going to send in troops or we're going to secure the crash site. we're going to handle this in a military way or in a paramilitary way so that we can -- need to do what we can in that crash site. so we are limited in what we can do and that's why i think when
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the dutch prime minister last week said to a member of parliament, dutch parliament, oh, yes, me, too. i sometimes think i would like to send in the marines. he was referring not to the dutch marines. he was referring to the american marines. from the movies. the cleaners that take care of the job. we, small country, don't have that. it's a big difference in the way we handle a tragedy like this. we are forced to handle a tragedy like this. and the americans would handle this. >> i should apologize. it's michal. >> it's okay. the same time. >> same name, different nationality. michael leiter. of course there is no military solution here. there is an argument to arm ukraine that's coming from some in congress. we've heard this repeatedly from several senators in fact, from john mccain, lindsey graham. but some conserve that weapons could get into the wrong hands and the ukraine government's forces are not that well trained either.
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you don't want complex weapons as you didn't want -- we didn't want to have these s.a.m. 11s in the hands of the separatists, but they are trying to do intelligence sharing. >> exactly. and i think although weapons are not likely to flow because that really will be quite an obvious escalation, intelligence support has already started to flow. and that's going to continue to flow. i think we will provide the ukrainians more and more intelligence. it was quite a big deal for the state department and the director of national intelligence to declassify this information because it's an effort to really neuter the russian claims that they are not involved which really on their face are completely false. the russians are deeply involved. i think the other piece here is even though the netherlands can't drive this, it's germany and france. and will germany and france stand up with the uk that's already expressed a willingness to do so for stiffer sectoral sanctions. will the french stop selling military ships to the russians now? this is a very tough thing for
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the eu. as we approach winter with russian gas flow it becomes even harder. >> michal it sounds as if they'll step up to sectoral sanctions but give a waiver to the french for the arms sale that was already agreed to. >> yes, we say it's always the french. of course, this is hard because as your other guest pointed out, michael leiter, we can't do it alo alone. we can't drive this. we need our other partners. in the case of the eu, that's 28 countries lined up to do the same thing. of course, many countries have vast interests in russia or with russia that are going to protest. amongst them are usually the french who want to sell weapons. and that is frustrating as well. so it's frustrating on a double level. it's not only frustrating we can't really get to the crash site yesterday and today. it's frustrating it took us so long to get the bodies in the first place and it's frustrate, of course, that for a small country we're not really sitting at the big table.
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we're usually sitting at the small table. now we get to sit at the big table and understand how difficult it is. our government is trying to play this multidimensional chess game of guesting all these partnersed up. there's also the balance we have to make. we dutchies like to wag a finger and say you kant do this and you can't do that. but there's huge business interest with russia. we have to be careful. there's this balance between being the priest and being the regular business man who is importing huge amounts of oil and gas into holland but then goes through the rest of the european countries. so it's hard. >> michal vos and to you michael leiter about libya. over the weekend the rare step of evacuating the tripoli embassy. deborah jones the ambassador moved to tunis. this done in a precision way with f-16s overhead, marine ospreys, drones. this was a five-hour motorcade to safely get them out because
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of the -- no threat to the u.s. but because rival militias. this is a failed state. >> the only silver lining of this real thundercloud is an exceptional evacuation by state department intelligence community and military. that's great they got out safely. the tragedy here is this is the worst violence and the biggest upheaval we've seen in libya since the war that got rid of moammar gadhafi. the state is failing. it does not control even the boundaries within tripoli. this is really another disaster in this region. >> and more people killed in baghdad today, includinga least three women shot in the head by rival militias. just heartbreak everywhere. thank you so much. now to southern california where a rare lightning storm struck venice beach yesterday killing one man. seven others were hospitalized with one in critical condition. >> all of a sudden heard this crackle. this giant bolt up in the sky that i've never seen like that. i'm from the midwest. we see lots of lightning.
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politicians. let's talk about pot, the issue. you said something on "meet the press" about the data on the effect on intelligence and on iq. >> i would like to say that first of all, we are engaging in a massive social experiment and we really don't know the implications of it. because the data are limited because we've been dealing with an illegal substance. however, there are studies that show on average a loss for adolescence. the big concern here for me is adolescent drug use. for adolescents who are significant users of marijuana, there is an average eight-point drop in iq. and what i said was, and i'll say it here, too, you can afford to lose eight iq points but i can't. and for those that -- i want to make two other points ra s real quickly. for those that say all these laws would make it illegal to obtain marijuana for adolescents, yes, anybody who has got kids knows how hard it
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is to get access to alcohol. yes, they can get pot now. this would make it easier. number two, no one should be going to jail for smoking pot but that's different than having a state completely legalize it. >> and chris cillizza, we've got conflicting laws here because there's a federal ban that goes back 40 years to the nixon white house years and congress passed it on a voice vote, i think. that's a federal ban which has all these penalties. yet states have gone their merry way. these two states and also the medical use. and there is support in congress for dispensation for states that permit medical use of marijuana. so there's a lot of conflicting data here, but what many people seem to think is that there should not be disproportionate jailing and imprisonment, especially of minority youth and adults. >> and i think just to your -- that point quickly. i think a lot of people can talk about rand paul's philosophy.
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he believes in sentence, reforming the sentencing around it. i will say, it is basically untenable in the long term to have the set-up that we do currently. you have an active pot economy and pot market in colorado. where it is legal. yet as you point out, it's illegal nationally. something has to be done here. one quick thing and ruth maid me thi think of it. there's a pew poll the "times" referenced where people say that alcohol is much more dangerous than marijuana. that may well be true. that doesn't mean that marijuana is not at all dangerous. i think people sort of conflate those two things. so, you know, i think "the times" is recognizing popular sentiment for the 1st time since they've been talking about the issue. it's quite clear where public
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sentiment is going. it feels like public policy is not there yet. and we're at this sort of strange thing where one of our 50 states, two of our 50 states legal and yet it's illegal nationally. >> you've got an nbc/"wall street journal" poll. supporting small quantities of marijuana from state license businesses. 43% opposing. yet as you say, there are different rules for banks and financing and some banks need waivers because for medical marijuana or state authorized use because they don't want to refinance the industry that is starting up. take a look at the pages of the style section of "the new york times." only yesterday, i don't know if it was coordinated with the editorial which was yesterday and again tomorrow we understand, but they had a whole feature on a wedding that featured gift bags of marijuana and bouquets and boutonnieres for the groomsmen of marijuana seeds and buds.
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so there's a whole social aspect to this as well, which is millennial and generational. but change is happening. the only question is whether there should be some rational regulation for excessive use or for excessive or illegal amounts. thank you so much. chris cillizza, this is happening as we speak, ruth marcus. it was ten years ago that then senator barack obama made his national debut delivering the keynote address at the 2004 democratic national convention. they have traded places. >> we worship an awesome god in the blue states and we don't like federal agents poking around in our libraries in the red states. we coach little league in the blue states and, yes, we've got some gay friends in the red states. we are one people. all of us pledging allegiance to the stars and stripes. all of us defending the united states of america.
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afternoon. we have a preview from the senate chair, bernie sanders. thank you very much. we understand you met somewhere in the middle on the money. tell us what is in store for veterans. >> i don't want to go into all of the details but this is what it does. it is unacceptable that veterans in many facilities around this country are on waiting lines that are much, much too long. we deal with that. there's going to be a significant sum of money to go into the va to hire out private contractors and medical facilities so that if veterans can't get into the va they will seek private doctors. second -- i'm sorry. >> roll call is reporting, you're not saying this, roll call is reporting $15 billion which would mean the house republicans came up about $5 billion. how quickly can this be implemented? >> the other position is that we are going to put substantial sums of money into the va so that long-term they'll solve these problems, have the doctors, the nurses, the medical
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personnel and the space that they need so we'll do away with these long waiting periods. bottom line, we are up against the wall right here. as we speak. my staff and congressman, the staff are trying to dot the is and cross the ts. i'm confident we'll have a bill before we get out of here. we owe this to the veterans in this country and that's what we're going to do. >> can it be passed? can it give voice votes or quick votes in both -- >> i am in touch with senator reed every day to see how fast we can possibly get it through the senate. as you know, sometimes we have some cantankerous members but i hope very much that we're going to get it done within the next few days. be cantankerous members in the senate? unheard of. thank you for your leadership, senator. we really appreciate it. >> thank you. president obama spoke this morning at the inaugural washington fellowship for young african leaders summit today. a program that he then renamed
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in honor of nelson mandela. >> have as we deal with crises and challenges in other parts of the world that often dominate our headlines, even as we acknowledge the real hardships that so many africans face every day, we have to make sure that we're seizing the extraordinary potential of today's africa. which is the youngest and fastest growing of economies. >> some 500 young leaders are participating in this program which connects them to training opportunities at some of america's top universities here in the u.s. i'm joined by susan rice, national security adviser for the white house. thank you so much, dr. rice, for being with us. and tell me the impetus behind this. i know some of these young leaders were at universities all over the country. what are you hoping to accomplish? >> this really is an extraordinary event. and it culminates the initiative the president launched some four years ago called the young
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african leaders initiative aimed at building a cadre of some of the most talented africans across the continent. men and women from every country that we are supporting as they develop as entrepreneurs and public servants and civil society leaders. here today, this washington fellows program now renamed the mandela washington fellows program, was inaugurated with the president for a week-long summit. we've had these 500 young african leaders in the united states all across the country for the bulk of the summer. and now they'll go on to additional internships with many of the leading american corporations and non-profit institutions. so this is an extraordinary opportunity to connect americans to africa and to share the talent that they bring to us and the skills and experience that we can contribute to them. and it's part of the run-up to next week when president obama
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will host an historic summit of up to 50 african leaders from around the continent. the first ever and largest such engagement of any american president with the leaders of africa to talk about trade and development and investment and to talk about governance and peace and security. so that we can deepen our commitment to one of the world's fastest growing regions that has great potential for growth and for development. >> in that light, with all these leaders coming next week, was there a conversation today or do you anticipate a conversation next week about this ebola outbreak because the president of liberia has now had to issue some travel restrictions and we know that two americans already infected. two american health workers. >> well, obviously, andrea, the tragedy in west africa with the ebola virus is of grave concern. over 600 people have lost their lives. and it's a rampant strain that is spreading.
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but the united states, from the very beginning of the outbreak in april has been on the grond with personnel from our agency for international development from the centers for disease control working with the world health organization and others to try and treat and company the regions contain the epidemic. that's part of a much larger program we have related to global health security. the united states has long been deeply invested in building african health infrastructure weather whether for hiv/aids or ebola. we are active in trying to help the countries of the region and the international authorities like the world health organization address and contain this threat. but it is indeed a very worrying epidemic. >> i know you've got a very full plate. i want to ask you to update us on libya after the evacuation over the weekend. a successful military precision evacuation of all of our employees, all of the staff, including the marine guards from tripoli.
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we've seen increased fighting now among these militias who are not targeting the u.s., i understand that, but are now fighting at the airport as well. libya is looking like a failed state. >> well, andrea, going back to where you started with the decision that the united states took over the weekend to temporarily remove our personnel from the embassy in tripoli, that was necessary because our embassy facility happened to be right in the middle of crossfire and sustained fighting between two rival militias. and it became an untenable situation. so we have temporarily suspended that presence. our ambassador and our team from the embassy continue to work every day fully and actively on the larger set of challenges in libya which you described, which is the fact that there are yet to be sustained and credible security forces that can rest control from territory that some of the militia are now operating
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in. there are economic and governance challenges but there have been successive elections which have now yielded a new council of representatives that we hope will be seated in the coming days. there is a political situation which is unfolding that has some promise and yet the security situation is gravely worrying. but we're going to very much remain engaged in libya. it's a country of significance to the region, to the united states, to europe. and with our partners from the united nations and europe, we will continue our efforts to support the libyan people. and indeed, this was one of the topics that president obama discussed this morning when he met via video teleconference with his counterparts from the united kingdom, france, germany n italy where they discussed a range of international issues, including the situation in libya. >> clearly they must have also discussed vladimir putin and we saw the extraordinary
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declassification of intelligence pictures showing the russian base across the border and with ukraine and the evidence that what putin and lavrov said to kerry this weekend is clearly just not true. that they are building up their forces on that side. what more is europe and the united states going to do? are they finally going to put in place tough sanctions? are we going to give the french a pass and let them sell the arms to russia? >> well, andrea, of course this is one of the key topics of conversation on that five-way video teleconference that president obama led. we're working very closely as we have been with the europeans to concert and coordinate our actions, including the pressure that we apply to russia and to putin himself. the europeans are prepared this week to meet again to take what we expect will be some significant decisions with regard to increased pressure. we will continue to be side by
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side with them in this process because the reality is, as you said there has been and received a substantial russian build-up along the ukrainian border. there is evidence of high precision artillery being fired into ukraine and the malaysian airliner was shot down in separatist held territory by a surface to air missile that we are confident was provided by russia. and russia provided training to those who were operating that surface to air missile. so this is part of a pattern of complicity that no amount of propaganda can obscure. and the cost to russia will continue to mount as long as it continues its concerted efforts to city de stabilize ukraine. and that was very much a topic of conversation among the leaders this morning. and we look forward to continuing our coordinated efforts in response to russia's
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actions. >> and within the last hour, israel has announced that it has sent texts and other warnings to neighborhoods in gaza to be prepared to evacuate. i'm not sure where they can move to. so the rocket fire continuing. israel claims that two hits today were the result of failed hamas rockets. we don't know what's happening on the grond. the bottom line is there is a lot of pressure on both sides right now for a cease-fire. we've seen two phone calls from the president to the prime minister with increasing lack of patience perhaps. how would you describe the way the white house now sees israel and its insistence on a military solution? what is the outcome here if there isn't an immediate cease-fire? >> let's be very clear. the united states fully supports israel's right to self-defense. no country can sustain rockets
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landing on populated areas and tunnels being constructed for the purpose of infiltrating terrorists to conduct kidnapping or murder operations. having said that, it's the u.s. view as well that the death toll and the civilian toll in gaza is rising at an alarming pace. it's a concern that is grave and deepening an the part of the united states. the american people and the entire international community. that is why. we have urged and we believe it is essential for not only humanitarian but for strategic purposes that there be an immediate unconditional humanitarian cease-fire. that is something that the president discussed, including yesterday with prime minister netanyahu. that's what prime minister netanyahu has told the president he seeks. so we are together in trying to achieve that objective. obviously, there are two sides to any conflict and both sides
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need to decide that it is obviously, as it should be, in the best interest of the people of gaza and the people of israel that the fighting cease, that there be an opportunity for the underlying complex issues to be resolved, such as the need for gaza to be demilitarized in the context of a conflict settlement for gaza. and for there to be reconstruction in gaza. so the people there can have the opportunity to achieve a better existence. so these long-term issues need to be addressed and addressed in the context of a sustained cease-fire. once that's achieved, short term, though, the imperative, and this is what secretary kerry has been working so hard and so well on behalf of on behalf of the president, what the president has been doing with his engagement systems to try to achieve in the immediate term this humanitarian unconditional cease-fire so that there can be space for more sustained
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negotiation over a permanent cease-fire. >> and briefly in just the 15 or so seconds we have left, can israel win this militarily but lose the political war? >> andrea, we think that at the end of the day, it's very hard to envision a simply military solution to this problem. there needs ultimately in our estimation, to be a political settlement and one that deals with israel's enduring security concerns, the necessity of long-term demilitarization and disarmament of terrorists as primary imperative. but at the same time also for the people of gaza to be able to reconstruct and develop and have the prospect for a future. all of these issues are critical. these are political issues. they are not issues that can be resolved militarily. so while we fully support israel's try to defend itself and its territory as it has been, we think that the solution to this over the long term is
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ultimately political. >> i know you'll be meet with visiting israeli leaders as well as others here within the next hour or so. thank you very much. ambassador susan rice, really appreciate it. >> good to talk to you, andrea. >> stay with us. there's more ahead an "andrea mitchell reports." we'll be right back. ♪ during the cadillac summer's best event, lease this 2014 ats for around $299 a month and make this the summer of style. the summer of this.mmer. the summer that summers from here on will be compared to.
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