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terrorist groups. >> kerry's words came soon after attacks in gaza on a refugee center as well as yet another medical facility. israel, however, was quick to deny culpability, pointing the finger at militants in the area whose rocket attack they say misfired. hamas is refuting that. nevertheless, it is the mounting civilian casualties in gaza that pushed the united nations security council to call for an unconditional cease-fire late sunday night. to date, more than 1,000, mostly civilian, gazans have died in comparison to 43 soldiers and 3 civilians from israel. nbc's ayman mohyeldin joins me from gaza. thanks for joining me. tell us the latest going on in gaza. >> reporter: karen, in the past few minutes, we've been hearing the sounds of what appears to be intense shelling taking place on the eastern part of the gaza strip. we're not yet sure what type of shelling that is, but no doubt there have been scenes of
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explosions taking place. we've also seen from our vantage point light flares being dropped from the skies above, an indication that some type of military operation has been taking place for some time. this followed earlier in the day very chaotic and emotional scenes at gaza's shiffa hospital, where according to palestinian medical sources, at least ten palestinians were killed as a result of an israeli air strike on a refugee camp north of where we are. that's according to palestinian sources who say as a result of that strike, there were at least 40 palestinians injured, 10 killed brought to the hospital. and just at around the same time, at about 5:00 p.m. local time, we also saw the explosion that happened at the hospital grounds. according to palestinian sources there, they were saying that also was a result of an israeli strike on the ground. there were no fatalities in that specific incident, but nonetheless, the two happened at the same time. now, the israeli military is countering that, saying that the two explosions that happened
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during the day were as a result of errant rockets being fired by palestinian factions towards israel that fell short and hit here in the gaza strip. that was a charge that was categorically refuted by a spokesperson for hamas, who said this is an attempt by israel to effectively whitewash its crimes and avoid any type of accountability in and responsibility for what it did today. karen? >> ayman, one question for you. one of the things i find most striking is apparently about 40% of the residents in gaza are children. it strikes me that those children now -- there's talk of post-traumatic stress disorder and how this is impacting those children. i know you've seen a number of children, both playing and then in the aftermath of some of the violence. i'm wondering what you're seeing in terms of how young people are handling these events. >> reporter: well, according to the gaza center for mental health, which is one of the most respected institutes here that deals with mental health, more than a majority of the palestinian children in the gaza
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strip suffer from post-traumatic stress disorder. keep in mind there's a generation of palestinians that have known at least three different wars in their lifetime. there's a generation of palestinians who are born entirely -- they've lived their entire lives under a blockade and have been unable to leave. as a result of that, there are all kinds of mental problems according to health care professionals here in gaza that are not only demonstrated among the young population but also among the adult population here in gaza. all kinds of mental issues that are a result of what they describe as some of the aggressions they've had to endure over the course of the past seven years. >> all right. thank you, ayman mohyeldin. joining me now, the former washington post jerusalem bureau chief. thanks so much for joining me. i wanted to get your sense. benjamin netanyahu moments ago
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made some comments, and i wanted to get your thoughts about where this goes for israel. >> we've accepted five cease-fires, acted upon them. hamas has rejected every single one of them, violated them, including two humanitarian cease-fires, which we accepted and implemented in the last 24 hours. now hamas is suggesting a cease-fire, and believe it or not, david, they've even violated their own cease-fire. so they continue to fire at us, and of course we'll take the necessary action to protect ourselves. >> it's one thing to say we want to coexist. it's another thing to coexist with the state of israel. do you want to coexist with the state of israel? do you want to represent -- do you want to recognize israel as a jewish state? >> no. >> so my question to you, you know, as we look at the back and forth in this conflict, there have been some concerns. israel has said, netanyahu has said his goal is to destroy the
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tunnels and demilitarize hamas. but there are growing questions, particularly as the damage in gaza becomes more prevalent. what's the end game here for israel? do they risk occupying gaza? >> if you would have asked me three weeks ago, i would have said there's no way they're going to do a full reoccupation of gaza. i still believe that to be the case. however, prime minister netanyahu has gone far further militarily than i would have anticipated. that doesn't mean that the strategic end game is clear. he's still focused on this tactical win of trying to destroy as many of these underground tunnels as he can before there's enough pressure on him to stop this and to come to an agreement on a cease-fire. there's confusion here in the international community and in israel and in gaza about the differences between getting an immediate cease-fire, ie stopping the rockets and mistime attacks, and the longer-term vision for hamas and gaza. i think what prime minister
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netanyahu is trying to get aut s what israel got in 2006 when it had a 32-day war as a reminder to the viewers with hezbollah in south lebanon. in that case, even though there was a ruling by the u.n. that hezbollah should disarm, lebanese troops were deployed and u.n. trooped were deployed. my don't envision a u.n. force being willing to go into the middle of this right now to ensure hamas demilitarized. >> the u.n. has said they would be willing to commit resources toward the rebuilding of gaza. does that provide some relief? >> that's a separate issue. i mean, this has been so devastating. you've had over 1,000 people killed. just to give you some context, i know people don't like to debate the numbers and compare numbers, but you had 1,000 israelis killed during the second -- a little more -- during the second intifadeh. now you have well over 1,000 palestinians killed. beyond the human death toll, you have the massive rebuilding that's going to need to take place. israel is going to have to play a role in that as well,
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ultimately. but there's not going to be a u.n. force is what i'm saying to separate the forces. i don't think hamas is going to agree to fully demilitarize as part of a cease-fire. >> that seems to suggest that what is needed here will really be a political solution, not a military solution ultimately. yet, it seems that political solution is somewhat out of reach at this point. how do we get to some kind of agreement? >> i mean, i think what you're seeing is here actually is the toll being -- there's a lot of things to say on this, but the fact that the relations between prime minister netanyahu and president obama have been so poor and the fact that john kerry is being openly mocked in israel for his latest cease-fire proposal, there's a lack of willingness there to reach a compromise. and there's something you need to understand about the israelis right now in this context. the more the world piles on, the more they're going to hunker down. they've got those rockets coming in at them, despite the cease-fires, as prime minister netanyahu said.
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there's a saying in israel that the world world is against us, it doesn't matter what we do. so the ability of the united states or the turks or anyone to influence israel's behavior right now is very limited. >> now, how about support within israel for netanyahu? how has he been doing since the beginning of this crisis? how is he doing in the polls? >> well over 80% of israelis support him and this mission right now. i think i saw a poll that 94% of israelis support the israel defense forces right now. there's a feeling in israel right now that we've gone this far, we're being rocketed, we have to take the steps to ensure a longer-term quiet. now the key question is whether that's even achievable militarily. i think some people within the israeli military doubt that it is. even if they destroy 13, 14, 15 of these tunnels, they don't have a clear sense of how many there are. and in his own press conference a week ago, prime minister netanyahu said in hebrew that you need a political solution
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alongside this, as you pointed out. so at some point after the destruction, there has to be a serious negotiation about the long-term deal here between israel and hamas. >> so the prime minister, it strikes me -- final question to you. given that he's got the support of the israel people, yet at the same time he's starting to come under some pressure from the world community given the increasing violence and deaths and the lack of parody, if you will, between what's happening in gaza and what's happening in israel, will that have an impact on netanyahu's willingness to come to the table to try and negotiate, and what can be done to get hamas to the table? they certainly seem absolutely unwilling to have any kind of negotiation. >> well, there's a couple things there. as i mentioned, the prime minister, he's with the israelis here in the sense that the international community is going to condemn him no matter what. but he's aware of israel standing in the world. he's tried really hard over the last couple of years to really focus -- refocus the world on israel and israel's technology
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successes. he doesn't want to be seen as an occupying power. he wants everybody to love israel. right now he's foremost a politician, and he's a military tactician. as long as he has the support of the israeli people and they're making progress destroying some of these tunnels, i think he's going to continue. when it comes to hamas, this is the problem. you have hamas as a u.s. designated terrorist organization, and israel saying we're not going to negotiate with a terrorist organization. yet, these are the two main players that need to be talking. there's got to be a way to give enough to hamas to stop and give israel enough to stop. at this moment, john kerry is not the key broker here. i'm not sure who's going to step in and fill his shoes. >> all right. thank you. and now we have an update on the situation in ukraine. united states today said it's investigating the downing of the malaysia air flight 17 as a possible war crime. escalating fighting between pro-russian separatists and ukrainian soldiers near the crash site is preventing investigators from accessing the area. and the u.s. state department has released pictures which it
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says proves that russia was involved in the fighting by shooting artillery into eastern ukraine from its side of the border. both the u.s. and the european union are preparing new economic sanctions on russia, but the question remains whether or not they'll be effective. coming up, the do-nothing congress could actually do something for a change. we'll tell you about a newly rolled out plan by house and senate leaders to help veterans struggling to get medical care. then two americans working to treat ebola victims in africa are now themselves infected with what's being called the worst ebola outbreak ever.
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so we are just days before congress will break for their august recess, and one of the year's most pressing and politically explosive issues actually could get a bipartisan
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solution. senator bernie sanders and congressman jeff miller, veterans committee fairs chairs in the house and senate, negotiated through the weekend on a deal to reform the troubled department. they announced their plan at a news conference within the last hour. >> this bill makes certain that we address the immediate crisis of veterans being forced on to long waiting lines for health care. it addresses the very serious problems of accountability and makes certain that dishonest and incompetent senior officials at the va do not remain employed there. >> the va is not sacred, the veteran is. that's the most important thing for all of us to remember. >> nbc's kasey hunt joins me live from capitol hill. kasey, tell us about the teeth in this proposal and what needs to happen to get something passed before the august break. >> well, karen, the billions in this bill are primarily going to -- the largest chunk is going to allow veterans to get care
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outside of the va if they've been subject to these terrible delays that so many of the veterans have clearly been struggling with in recent months and years. so most of the money would go to that. it would also go to people who need to travel more than 40 miles to reach a va clinic or center. there's also some money in the bill that would allow the va to open 27 or so potential new clinics. it also puts some teeth into rules about senior officials. it lets the senior officials at the va fire people who are potentially misleading their bosses or who are engaged in misconduct, some of these poem who are responsible for what we've seen at the va. there's an appeals process involved for those people. that was something senator bernie sanders insisted on being included. but there will be a little more accountability. at this point, it just turns to finishing out the legislative process here on capitol hill. so that's going to require making sure particularly that the republican conference in the house is on board, so that'll be
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va chairman jeff miller's job to get those people along. then senator sanders will obviously be selling it to his democratic colleagues here in the senate. at at that point, both houses expect they should be able to get something together and passed through the house before the end of the break. i will say, there's an incredible amount of political pressure on them. these negotiations fell apart late last week. there was a lot of negative reaction because congress has been unable to act on so many broad priorities, whether it's the highway bill, whether it's funding for the crisis on the border. and this is really seen as something that there's no opposition to. it was passed overwhelmingly in both houses. and to have negotiations even on this breakdown would have been a real demonstration of failure. >> you know, kasie, to that point, there are reports coming out of a caucus meeting last friday, there were concerns frankly from both sides, as you point out, about the ability to get something done and then having to go home and explain
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why this in particular didn't get done. >> exactly. i mean, this is sort of -- it incaps lates a lot of the frustration that americans are feeling toward congress. if you look at some of the polls about how people feel about their members of congress, americans are overwhelmingly negative. they don't plan to vote in as high of numbers. regardless of who comes out as the victor in these midterms, all of them are incumbent members of congress. the ratings for this institution, how americans view what they do hear, is important for all of them. i think on this issue, there's such overwhelming agreement that everyone recognized that if they were to leave here without getting something done, it would be on the whole bad for everyone. >> all right. we'll be watching. thank you, nbc's kasie hunt. >> thanks, karen. now three things to know this monday. let's start in new york city where mayor bill de blasio and police commissioner just addressed the death of eric
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opposite. it's happening and it's in tennessee. it's the first of its kind in the country. three nonprofits have come together to file a class-action lawsuit in federal court to get officials there to comply with the current rules governing access to medicaid. now, this suit isn't about expanding medicaid per se, although expansion does play a role here, and i'm going to tell you about that later. this suit is about getting tennessee to comply with its legal responsibility to people who already may qualify for medicaid. a month ago, the fed cited the volunteer state as one of the six not doing enough to address its backlog of applicants. the state official in charge of ten care, which oversees medicaid, disagreed almost entirely with the assessment. darren gordon blamed in part a private contractor for the failure to roll out a new processing system. however, he aimed his chief criticism at, you guessed it, obamacare. quote, a small percentage of applicants have had difficulty completing the enrollment
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process, but almost all of those problems have been the result of flaws in the federal government's healthcare.gov website. now, we've exacted mr. gordon's office for comment but have not received a reply. here to discuss the case is sam brooke, an attorney with the southern poverty law center, which is one of the groups filing the lawsuit. and ricky reynolds, one of the plaintiffs. thank you, both, for joining me. so sam, i want to start with you. tell us about the lawsuit and why is it so hard for tennesseens to access medicaid? >> well, thank you so much for having us today. last week we did take the step to file a lawsuit challenging tennessee because of its refusal to process applicants into their medicaid system. we really believe that they are essentially playing politics with people's lives, individuals who have just trying to get the health care that they so desperately need. you know, before the affordable care act rolled out, tennessee had individual social workers in all of its offices to help
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people, to process their applications, to make sure everyone got through and got in on time. with the advent of affordable care act, they fired all those individuals and forced people like our client in the reynolds to go through this process on their own. and as a result, thousands of individuals have been left waiting on the outside, just trying to get a decision from tennessee. the purpose of our lawsuit is to say you have an obligation to do this within 45 days. stop forcing people who are facing desperate medical needs to wait over six months just to find out whether or not they will be covered. >> so sam, essentially you're saying people are supposed to know they're covered within 45 days and it's taking up to six months? >> that's absolutely correct. and we're talking about individuals here who are facing life-threatening challenges. you know, one of our clients is suffering from severe kidney failure and doesn't know wether or not she can get the care she needs because of this delay. she's been going without seeing the doctors and specialists
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she's required to see. we're also representing several newborns who have been going through the first months of their life without getting the regular checkups every newborn ought to receive. again, because the family doesn't know how they're going to pay for the medical bills when they go to the doctor. it's this type of a problem that the state needs to take responsibility for and fix. they, under the law, are the ones who are responsible for making sure that everyone simply gets a decision, yes or no, within 45 days. and that's what they're failing to do. >> now, ricky, as i understand, your wife is one of the plaintiffs. can you tell us about the ordeals that you've been going through in trying to sign up? >> well, back in early february, me and my wife, april, went and signed up, you know, for the insurance. anyway, they asked us to send in, you know, extra documents, which we did. and we never heard anything. so in early march, my wife took
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sick. and we talked about going to the hospital, but there again, we discussed the medical bills, you know, that was going to be put on us. so we waited. then it come to the point where we couldn't wait any longer. when my wife got to the hospital, which they put her on heart monitors and informed us that if she would have waited another day, that she would have died. so they transported her to hendersonville hospital, where she was in critical condition for three days. since then, we have reapplied for the insurance and still haven't heard or gotten a letter in the mail. we've accumulated over $20,000
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in hospital bills. and we still haven't received anything until last week when the lawsuit went into effect the following day. you know, i got a phone call from ten care. and it was -- you know, it was -- it just made me angry because, i mean, i look at it as why couldn't you have called me three months ago? since then, it's been hard on my family. you know, every day waking up not knowing if my wife's going to have her children, or my children are going to have my wife. and it's a sad situation that people have to go through this. >> sure. >> you know, and have to have a
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lawyer to go to the doctor. >> and ricky, it's my understanding that as well within this process, there were times when your wife needed to go to the doctor but decided against going to the doctor for regular checkups because she was so afraid of the cost. >> exactly. and until this day, she's been -- since she got out of the hospital, she's been once for a checkup, and she hasn't been back since. and i just -- i don't know. i mean, i think that my wife april and the other people in the state of tennessee -- i mean, they need health care. and without it, i mean, you know, you shouldn't have to stress over health care. >> you're right about that one. sam, we reached out to ten care
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and actually we did just get a statement which reads in part, quote, as it became apparent that some smaller groups of applicants in obtaining coverage through the ffm, tennessee has worked and continued to work tirelessly to develop work-arounds to compensate for these flaws in the federal processing, including developing a new work-around that may help all of the children named in this suit. a work-around that we communicated to plaintiffs' counsel the day before they filed. i wonder what your response to that is. >> what we're concerned about is all the individuals who are being denied health care coverage through the system that's in place right now. tennessee is the only state in the country that does not provide a process where people who are having difficulty and going beyond the 45 days have an ability to go directly to the state to get an immediate and prompt decision made on their application. this is the only state in the
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country. every other state has figured out a process that's reliable and will work to get that done, and tennessee has not. and when the federal marketplace -- when the federal government brought this to their attention through those letters you referred to at the beginning of this section, they were saying you're failing to meet certain requirements and you need to do better. the response from the state, unfortunately, was to double down and to instead say, it's not our fault, it's actually your fault the federal government, rather than taking responsibility and ensuring that everyone gets coverage. we are pleased that they're making small steps in the right direction right now, and we want them, of course, to go further. we want them to take responsibility to fix this broken system. >> sam, quickly, when they talk about a work-around, what would you want that to be? >> there needs to be a process in place so that anyone who is beyond 45 days can go to tennessee and get a prompt determination made on their application. this simply is not rocket science. this is something they can do. this is something they were able to do for years up to before the advent of the affordable care
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act. they can do that again here today. >> all right. well, thank you, both, for joining me and for your story. we'll keep an eye on this. sam brooke and ricky reynolds. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> coming up, what you need to know about the deadliest ebola outbreak ever and the americans who are affected by it. you pay your auto insurance premium every month on the dot. you're like the poster child for paying on time. and then one day you tap the bumper of a station wagon. no big deal... until your insurance company jacks up your rates. you freak out. what good is having insurance if you get punished for using it? hey insurance companies, news flash. nobody's perfect. for drivers with accident forgiveness, liberty mutual won't raise your rates due to your first accident. see car insurance in a whole new light. liberty mutual insurance. hey there, i just got my bill, and i see that it includes my fico® credit score. yup, you get it free each month to help you avoid surprises with your credit. good. i hate surprises. surprise!
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summer blockbuster, but it's a deadly reality facing a growing number of west africans and increasingly the volunteers who are risking their lives to save them. according to the world health organization, more than 1,000 people have been affected with we bow -- with ebola this year. the two most recent confirmed cases have hit closer to home, afflicting two american citizens living and working in that region. dr. kent brantley, a 32-year-old family physician working in liberia is currently in isolation and being treated in monrovia. and just this weekend, charlotte, north carolina, missionary nancy reiple, who was volunteering with her husband david, was diagnosed with the deadly disease. the family's pastor says her husband said as of last night nancy was sounding stronger over the phone. our nbc affiliate wcnc spoke to the pastor about the missionary
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couple. >> as we heard about ebola just about two or three months ago, a couple in our church who know them and love them, even offered to bring them home, back to the states at their expense less they contracted ebola. they thought, no, we're here, we're called by god. >> the vice president of samaritan's purse joins us. dr. brantley is working with his group. thanks for joining me. i want to start with a piece that you wrote in "the new york times" op-ed. your concern is that we're not paying attention to what's actually happening in africa right now. >> well, the disease is spreading so fast in africa. there have been so many new cases and so many people have died, but yet what you're looking at is in the countries of liberia, sierra leone, and in guinea, three of the poorest countries in the world.
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their health care systems are overwhelmed. they do not understand as people and as health care providers what the disease is, how it's spread. it is just -- frankly, it's out of control. we have never seen a disease grow this fast and spread this far, but most dangerously and most importantly, it is now into the capital cities of liberia, sierra leone, and guinea. each one of those cities have populations exceeding 2 million people. whereas in the past, it's only been in rural areas where there have been a few hundred people in villages and the disease kills everybody before it spreads to these levels of epidemics we're seeing today. >> what's the capacity of peo e people -- in terms of those capital cities and their capacity, what do you see?
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>> i see an absolute nightmare getting ready to happen. the ministries of health do not have the ability to do case investigation. that means if i am infected, i need to be tracked down. who did i talk to? who did i eat with? who have i shared the bus with? that simply isn't happening. we're seeing last friday as an example in the hospital that we are working in there in monrovia. we had 12 new patients checked in. eight of them were health care providers from the ministry of health of liberia. so that means the doctors, the nurses, the pharmacists, the payroll clerks, they don't recognize what the disease is. they don't understand how to protect themselves. they're touching and treating people with ebola, then touching and treating other people and that disease is being spread. it needs much more robust input from the world health
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organization, from the centers for disease control, from the u.s. government and the european union. i think much more needs to be done. if we are not able to contain this ebola outbreak in west africa, we will fight it and we will contain it, but it will be somewhere else. >> so just moments ago, the cdc actually issued a health alert to make sure that health care workers know what to look for. it said that people with recent travel to west africa who have symptoms should be isolated and tested. dr. brantley, let's talk about what those symptoms are and the fatality rates of this disease. i'm sorry, dr. isaacs. >> i'm knnot a doctor, but i'll take the term anyway. i work with a lot of doctors. i am familiar with it. the symptoms start out as general malaise. you feel bad. starts out with a low-grade fever. you'll develop diarrhea. you'll develop vomiting.
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you'll get weaker as the time goes on. it's a hemorrhagic fever. that means your blood loses the ability to coagulate. it starts seeping through your vessels. you can bleed out your skin. you'll bleed out the or facilities of your body. you'll eventually get to something called massive organ failure. that's where you are about the time that you die. the disease is highly contagious. it is extremely dangerous. and it is not something at all to be taken lightly. the speed with which it has grown is very alarming. it was first discovered in 1976 in congo. and from that period of time until 2008, there had been about 2300 known cases in the world. in the last four months, there have been over 1100 cases, and they're now spread, as i said earlier, and people are getting sick in these major met pollropn
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areas. >> in 2014 the west africa fatality rate is 60%. the typical fatality rate has been 90%. what do you account for the difference? >> well, i think that there are essentially five, perhaps six, different strains of ebola. there are a number of reasons that could account for the difference of the case mortality rate. it could be how fast the person turns themselves in for medical treatment, but it is more likely has to do with the actual -- the strength of that particular strain of the virus that attacks. there is more unknown about ebola than there is known. but what is known is that it is called a level four pathogenic disease. it's highly contagious. it's very dangerous. and i would say that nancy and kent both became infected treating voluntarily people with this deadly disease. >> all right. thank you, ken isaacs.
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in today's "usa today," speaker boehner outlined his legislative priority for this final week that congress is in session. a formal vote approving his lawsuit against president obama. meanwhile, tens of thousands of children, refugees from a violent crisis if their home countries, could be left with their fates hanging in the balance for five weeks while congress goes on vacation. the image of those children sitting idly in facilities all across the country is a potent metaphor for dysfunction in washington, d.c. now, both sides have said it's unlikely they'll be in agreement on what to do with the more than 50,000 central american children
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who are currently being detained. while the gop has shifted its rhetoric, they can't seem to decide what concessions they want in exchange for a plan to deal with the situation on the border, even within their own caucus. some changes to the comprehensive immigration legislation that was passed last year by the senate that so far the house has refused to other. still, others want to either change or repeal altogether the 2008 trafficking victims pro protection reauthorization act in order to speed up the deportation of children who fled to the u.s. seeking refuge from violence. the law signed by president bush was designed to protect unaccompanied children who may be victims of sex trafficking. and it further dictates how these children must be treated once they're in the united states. democrats in congress have made it clear that changing or repealing this 2008 law is absolutely a nonstarter. and republicans seem unwilling
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to pass any kind of plan without concession. so while the adults have been negotiating, there's two questions that aren't being asked. first, who are these kids? as the pew research center pointed out in a recent study, children 12 and under are the fastest growing group of unaccompanied children making the journey. one of the most striking findings was an increase in the number of girls, particularly from honduras who are making the trip. now, the second question is, what happens to these kids over the next five weeks if congress fails to act? well, president obama has said he'll look at possible unilateral action. the white house has also acknowledged without a deal that provides the resources needed for additional customs and border patrol and the immigration judges, it'll be harder to move quickly in assessing and sending those kids home. additionally, failure also jeopardizes the ability of the department of health and human services to house these children. so while speaker boehner prepares his lawsuit, tens of thousands of children face five
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in four west african countries, killing more than half of them. the number of infected is growing by the day, including two americans, a doctor and an aid worker. they're both being treated in the liberian capital and are expected to recover. also, more than 6 1/2 million americans are now finding themselves in the summer storm cycle as we start this new workweek. that follows a weekend of destructive weather, including six tornadoes and hundreds of thousands of power outages. in southern california, a rare lightning storm hit on the famed venice beach. one man was killed, and more than a dozen others were hurt. and there is a deal to overhaul care for american veterans. it was announced just this afternoon on capitol hill and will provide more nurses and doctors, also allowing vets facing long waits at va hospitals to seek private care. wow. ebo ebola, lightning strikes, and a bipartisan bill. it's shaping up to be a strange monday in "the cycle."
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good afternoon. i'm toure. we begin with new conflicting reports at this hour in the ongoing israeli/hamas conflict. it seems the only thing not up for debate is there is no end in sight. there are reports today that hamas militants used their tunnel network to infiltrate an israeli border town before being driven back to the gaza strip. despite today being a major muslim holiday marking the end of ramadan. there's also finger pointing surrounding missile strikes right outside the main hospital in gaza and in a children's park at a nearby refugee camp. the israeli military insists the missiles were not there, it was a hamas misfire, they say. nbc's richard engel was right there when it happened. >> once again, it is mostly children were seeing brought into this hospital. we've seen about a dozen injured brought in so far. more than half of them thought to be under 10 years old. >> so far, 1,037 palestinians