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bryant's famous barbecue, we are moments away from hearing from president obama on the economy today. and real housewives of virginia. the,nique defense at the bob mcdonnell corruption trial. turns out, says his lawyer, it wasn't all about corruption and bribery. just failed marriage. >> i have great faith in god and the justice system and that sustains me every day. and strength in numbers. can a powerful bipartisan team on the hill take on the urgent issue of sexual assaults on campuses across the country? we'll ask the duo leading the charge when kaersenators mccask and gillibrand join me. and fighting for their lives as africa confronts the worst ebola outbreak in history. two americans affected are
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battling for their lives. >> she's stable, as dad put it. she's fighting through it. she's working real hard to get through this. good day, everyone. i'm andrea mitchell in washington. another deadly day. the violence is only escalating in the middle east. there's been an air strike on a crowded market in gaza. through reports of at least a dozen or more dead. earlier this morning a united nations school was hit killing at least 15 people, mostly women and children. and wounding nearly 100 more sheltering. the u.n. confirmed the attacks and is placing the blame on israel. israel has not officially accepted or denied the blame. joining me for the latest from the ground i'm joined by ayman mohyeldin and martin fletcher. first to you, ayman. tell us about this deadly day
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today. >> there's been two separate incidents today. we'll start with the most recent one that happened within the last 90 minutes. it was at a market that's already been heavily shelled and destroyed over the course of the past week. according to palestinian health officials, at least 15 people were killed, more than 100 injured in what they say was an israeli shelling of that area. according to palestinian eyewitnesses who were there, it was an artillery shell that landed and hit a building that set it on fire and as paramedics and others were standing around trying to watch them put that fire out, more shells landed on the area sending people running for cover and that's what also led to a high number of casualties, including the fatalities. according to palestinian eyewitnesses on the grond and foreign photographers who arriveda there on the scene, they say the sounds consistent with shelling were coming from the direction the israeli military was and as the people were running, the shelling
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continued. that's separate from the incident that happened this morning in which the united nations was involved. the u.n. this morning said at one of the schools in the northern part of gaza, another 15 palestinians were killed in what the initial u.n. investigation concluded was an israeli artillery shell that landed in the school. we've heard from several u.n. officials now who have confirmed both here and in -- outside of gaza saying they believe it was israeli shells that landed in the school, that injured up to 100 people there as well. they've collected evidence, including the shrapnel of the shells that were in that school. the eyewitnesses we spoke to, we went out to that school, say there was no fighting taking place at the time the shells began to land at 5:30 a.m. local time. the israeli military says an investigation is under way and they've countered that by saying there was fighting taking place in the vicinity of the school. the u.n. used today's example to highlight. this is now the third such school they've had come under attack in which there have been casualties but more importantly, they are seeing up to 90 different installations
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belonging to the u.n. have been damaged as a result of the fighting. that's separate from the humanitarian challenge just trying to keep 200,000 that have taken refuge in their schools safe and from harm's way. >> thanks so much, ayman. and martin fletcher, any israeli response to these latest attacks first of all? then i want to ask you about your journey today into those tunnels. >> i haven't heard any response so far to the attack on to the marketplace. for the earlier attack on the school, the israelis say that they were firing back at mortar fire placement. they say they were attacked from mortar from the area near the school and they fired back. that's pretty much what they always say. they almost always say when they fire back it's because they were fired from -- they were fired at by people near those u.n. installations, near the schools. and you know -- so they haven't
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admitted responsibility but they say they returned fire to the people firing at them. that's pretty much what they always say. >> and this is not as we were talking last week, when immediately they had those radar pictures and they said it was not their fault, that it was palestinian rockets from islamic jihad. but in this case, they have not responded in that way. so it remains to be seen. secondly, the tunnels. you went out to look at the tunnels. tell me what you saw today. >> the tunnel -- it was quite extraordinary, actually. it's a tunnel the israelis found three months ago. they've been beginning to show it to the press. what a sophisticated thing. it's about 1 1/2 miles long stretching from a house -- a private house inside gaza. a mile and a half to the israeli border where we were shown it. it's 45 feet deep. 15 yards deep. and it actually continues
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several hundred yards more. and the tunnel ends inside the agricultural land. a disaster was averted by this much. it was concrete the entire length of the tunnel we saw was lined by concrete, telephone cables, electric lines, a trolley line for trolleys with sand to go back into gaza. they say it took five years to build such a sophisticated, long tunnel. and lots of money. obviously showing us around they have said so far they've estimated and they are judging this by the cost of concrete which they say the tunnel's effort has cost hamas about $90 million. >> martin fletcher, we look forward to your reporting on all of this tonight and your tour through the tunnels tonight on "nbc nightly news" and later still we'll hear from the u.n. with the latest an their take on who is responsible for this latest hit on a u.n. school and
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also their acknowledgment that rockets have been hidden in vacant u.n. schools which they have been inspecting. president obama is going to be speaking. we understand he's out in kansas city. he's going to be talking about some good news on the economy. we'll hear from him in just a few moments. first, the soap opera in virginia where former governor bob mcdonnell and his wife maureen are front page news for their novel defense against bribery charges. the trial began yesterday. they claim it wasn't corruption. it was the tale of a failed marriage and maureen mcdonnell had what was claimed a crush on a star witness, a campaign contributor. the lead attorney said during opening arguments the contributor jonnie williams was larger than life to her and that unlike the other man in her life, the governor, jonnie williams paid attention to maureen mcdonnell, then first lady of virginia. joining me for our daily fix, chris cillizza, managing editor of postpolitics.com and "new
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york times" white house reporter jackie collins. we don't often have a soap opera like this. and the defense is, it was a marriage problem, not a bribery problem. >> we have a live blog at "the post" going on on the bob mcdonnell trophy. when i read that crush defense, i seriously read it twice because i thought i misread it. now look, bob mcdonnell's political career probably ended the moment that they started writing about these gifts from jonnie williams. it just showed you the legal machinations are different than the political ones. you could never imagine this going on in politics. but legally, what they are trying to do here is say, this was not a coordinated attempt to sort of offer jonnie williams and his company extra access, that he bought his way into the governor's mansion but rather this was the story, essentially, of a marriage that was
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dissolving and another man who also happened to be giving lots of money to the mcdonnell's daughters for their wedding presents and to the mcdonnells themselves. another man entering the picture. more sort of a domestic disagreement than a political sort of influence buying, influence peddling argument. it's not one that i expected. >> jackie, we only learned this when the trial began and the opening arguments laid out the tales of this marriage which is not at all the defense we expected. this fall from grace, we should point out, was so precipitous. it wasn't that long ago that bob mcdonnell was a very successful governor and elected with great fanfare and was on a short list to be a running mate. he was being looked at before this scandal broke, which was broken by "the washington post," to be the running mate -- potential running mate in 2012.
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>> absolutely. and some time maybe he could come back. look what chris christie, while still having a big cloud over his head, is hanging in there. and still, you know, making soundings for the 2016 republican nomination. in the mcdonnell case, i have to say, when the indictments first came down and there were a lot of people just in chatter who would say that they thought maybe this was just maureen mcdonnell's doing, that her husband was just sort of, you know, brought into this unknowingly. and i thought it was sort of sexist, frankly, privately. but now here it is you have the mcdonnell's and their lawyers making this very argument. and if their marriage isn't in trouble it seems like this could be a self-fulfilling prophecy. it's legally, like chris said, this is about as good as they can do for a defense to cast doubt in the jury's minds about whether this really was legal
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bribery in which they were doing this for a material quid pro quo. one thing it doesn't answer is there's a number of gifts that governor mcdonnell himself was given, either by jonnie williams or by jonnie williams in response to maureen mcdonnell's request. that's going to be hard to explain by this defense that mrs. mcdonnell somehow had a crush or even a platonic affair. the governor himself has received some gifts that have to be explained. >> that's a point that i was thinking as well because it's one thing to give things to the wife and try to insert yourself into the marriage or become an issue in the marriage, but, chris, he hasn't explained the watch and some of the other things to the governor. >> right. i mean, the other thing is the gifts to maureen mcdonnell, you understand some of that. even the bob mcdonnell stuff, jackie is exactly right. that seems to be the biggest problem.
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but also the gifts to the kids for their weddings. it just seems like an odd explanation. if you are trying to woo someone or whatever jonnie williams was trying to do, you know, he let the mcdonnell's, bob and maureen mcdonnell use his house in smith lake, use a car of his. it seems an odd way to sort of be the third player in that relationship if that was your goal. so that seems odd to me. >> that's why there are jury trials. chris cillizza, jackie, thank you very much. much more ahead right here, including two lawmakers taking aim at this startling statistic. 1 in 5 female college students are victims of sexual assault. it's really horrific. senators kirsten gillibrand and clair mccaskle are joining me next. bo tends to sta y in mion. staying active can actually ease arthritis symptoms. but if you have arthritis, staying active can be difficult.
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today bipartisan group of lawmakers introduced the first legislation to combat an epidemic of sexual assaults on campuses across the nation. a survivor ann a clark joined the senators and recalled her own experience today. >> at the university of north carolina at chapel hill, when i reported that i was sexually assaulted, someone told me that rape was like a football game and that i should look back on that game to figure out what i would do differently in that situation. >> incredible. blaming the victim. joining me for their first joint interview since sgligs legislation, the co-authors senators kirsten gillibrand and claire mccaskill. you've talked to these victims. tell me what you are trying to accomplish and what are the key ingredients in the legislation? >> well, there's a lot of things in the legislation, andrea, that's going to make a difference. we're going to require
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confidential advisers for victims. we're going to require training so when they are talking about this horrific experience they are talking to someone who knows how to handle. we're talking about more penalties possible for universities who treat these women so terribly. and we're also making sure that athletic departments no longer have the ability to pass judgment on cases involving athletes on campuses. one system for all students, period. >> the key is we need to flip the incentives. too many schools have no reason to report these crimes because there's not enough acounterability and not enough transparency. we're working an a transparent system where we can have an apples to apples survey where every person on campus has the ability to say what is it like to be on campus? do you feel safe? when we have that information, we have power and can hold universities accountable. flipping incentives will make the difference. >> there's been legislation in the past that was passed
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successfully. i think senator spector was involved, which requires campuses to report all violent crimes. does this fit into that? does this add another layer of reporting requirements? >> we're going to simplify that layer. right now universities are faced with conflicting and complicated requirements. we're going to clarify those, simplify them, make sure everyone is working off the same definitions. this is not about creating more paperwork for universities. this is about making sure they are establishing a process that a victim will be supported, that a victim will get good information and ultimately what we hope will allow the victim to have the confidence to come forward out of the shadows and hold these perpetrators akontable even under the criminal law if that's what they choose. >> i know senator gillibrand there was a remarkable front page story in "the new york times" about a college in new york state. and in that case, the local police had responded appropriately but the campus officials had not.
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>> neither actually responded appropriately. in fact, i think it was the police commissioner said he saw no evidence of nonconsensual sex. you had a physical evidence report of what actually happened that was in direct contrast to that. >> maybe it was the er team that did respond with good accountability. >> correct. >> the medical community was very responsive. that story is heartbreaking. anna came and talked about her experience today. her mom susan stood by her. told the story of what it's like to be a mom. if you can imagine having a daughter or son be so violently and brutally raped and then having the university or school that they love turn their back on them. that's what these men and women are facing. it's outrageous we cannot create a safe environment for our kids. it should not be the cost of a college education to be raped. right now 1 in 5 women are being raped on college campuses. more women are being raped if they go to college than if they don't. that's unacceptable. >> and in that case, as i
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recall, there was a witness, a friend of hers. a male friend of hers was a witness to a gang rape. and she'd only been on campus for two weeks or something. this is just horrifying and i'm so glad you are doing something about it. what are the chances of success? we all know how difficult it is to get anything passed these days in congress. >> we've done it a little differently. we have complete bipartisanship. this is a rare fully collaborative process with our colleagues. eight original co-sponsors. we'll keep adding sponsors. as long as we add both a republican and a democrat. there should be no partisanship around this issue. all of us have children, grandchildren that we want to protect our college campuses. and frankly, the universities should get on board here and be our partners in these reforms because in the long run, it is best for them, too. i really do believe this is an issue that has so -- is so compelling that we should hopefully get floor time on it before the end of the year so that universities can have a whole different set of processes
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to support victims beginning hopefully the winter semester. >> we know that this is a really tough schedule. you have a former prosecutor claire mccaskill, kirsten gillibrand, you're an attorney. you have both been advocates. you haven't always worked together. so great to see you working on the same side of this issue. but the time is short. >> we can get this done. andrea, i am so optimistic, i can't tell you how optimistic i am. we're going to go for our breaks to be in our states and talk to our constituents. every state, every college campus, every survivor will go to their senator all through august and say, are you supporting this bill? are you going to end sexual assault on college campuses. not many people are going to say no to that question. we'll have wide bipartisan support come september. i'm extremely optimistic we'll get our floor time because the urgency of this issue will demand it. so i've never been as confident in the past on a bill than i am
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on this bill. >> when we are not together, we are both storms. when we're together, we're a tornado. >> i was going to say, this is something you guide had better watch out. claire mccaskill and gillibrand. they are heading your way. really appreciate it. >> thanks for covering the issue. and in los angeles, millions of gallons of water poured from a broken water main yesterday turning sunset boulevard into raging rapids. in a city and state living under water use restrictions because of the drought. down stream the flash floods hit the ucla campus in the historic pauley pavilion, the flood turned the basketball court into a swimming pool. today city officials are taking a lot of heat for taking too long, some say, to shut off the water as it poured into buildings, streets and parking garages for several hours. people had to be rescued from their cars. no injuries were reported, though. and now a massive cleanup operation is under way for a
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city system that's almost 100 years old. and now to kansas city where president obama is speaking. >> to help millions of americans right now. not only are those families hurt but the whole economy is hurt. so that's why this year my administration, what we said was, we want to work with congress. we want to work with the republicans and democrats to get things going, but we can't wait. so if they aren't going to do anything, we'll do what we can on our own. we've taken more than 40 actions aimed at helping hard working families like yours. that's when we act, when congress won't. so, you know, when congress failed to pass equal pay legislation, i made sure that women got more protection in their fight for fair pay in the workplace. i think when women succeed,
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everybody succeeds. i want my daughters paid the same as your sons for doing the same job. congress had the chance to pass a law that would help lower interest rates on student loans. they didn't pass it. i acted an my own to give millions of americans the chance to cap their payments. the program that victor is taking advantage of. i don't want our young people just saddled with debt before they've even got started in life. when it comes to the minimum wage, last week marked five years since the last time the minimum wage went up. you know the cost of living went up. minimum wage didn't go up. so i went ahead on my own when it came to federal contractors. i said you want to get a federal contract? you have to pay your workers at least $10.10 an hour. and i've been trying to work
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with governors and mayors. i've been trying to work with governors and mayors and some cases with business owners calling them up directly. how about giving your folks a raise. some of them have done it. and, you know, since i first asked congress to raise the minimum wage, businesses like the gap, you got 13 states and d.c., they've gone ahead and raised their minimum wage. they've made some difference in people's lives. and by the way. here's something interesting. they've seen higher job growth than the states that didn't increase their minimum wage. so, remember, you give them a little more money, businesses have more customers. they got more customers and make more profit. they make more profit, what do they do? they hire more workers. america deserves a raise and
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it's good for everybody. so some of the things we're doing without congress are making a difference but we can do so much more. if congress would just come on and help out a little bit. just come on. come on and help out a little bit. stop being mad all the time. stop. stop this. stop this hating all the time. come on. let's get some work done together. we actually -- they did pass this workforce training act and it was bipartisan. the republicans and democrats, and everybody was all pleased. we had a bill signing. they are all in their suits.
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i said doesn't this feel good? you know, we're doing something. it's like useful. nobody is shouting at each other. it was really nice. i said let's do this again. let's do it more often. i mean, i know they aren't that happy that i'm president, but that's okay. come on. i have only got a couple years left. come on. let's get some work done. then you can be mad at the next president. we've got just today and tomorrow until congress leaves town for a month.
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and we still have some serious work to do. we've still got a chance to -- we've got to put people to work, rebuilding roads and bridges and highway trust fund is running out of money. we've got to get that done. we've got to get some resources to fight wildfires out west, to help -- that's a serious situation. we need more resources to deal with the situation in the southern part of the border, right, with some of those kids? we've got to be able to deal with that in a proper way. so there's a bunch of stuff that needs to get done. unfortunately, i thing main vote, correct me if i'm wrong here, congressman, the main vote they've scheduled for today is whether or not they decide to sue me for doing my job. no, no, no, first of all, don't -- first of all, here's something i always say.
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do not boo. vote. booing doesn't help. voting helps. but think about this. they have announced they are going to sue me for taking executive actions to help people. so, you know, they are mad because i'm doing my job. and by the way, i told them, i said, i'd be happy to do it with you. so the only reason i'm doing it on my own is because you don't do anything. but if you want, let's work together. i mean, everybody right now says this is a political stunt, but it's worse than that because every vote they are taking like
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that means a vote they're not taking to actually help you. when they had taken 50 votes to repeal the affordable care act, that was time that could have been spent working constructively to help you on some things. and, by the way, you know who is paying for this suit they're going to file? you! no, no, you are paying for it. and it's estimated that by the time the thing was done, i would have already left office so it's not a productive thing to do. but, but, but here's -- i just want -- here's what i want people to remember every single day, as depressing sometimes as what goes on in washington may be. i see the inherent goodness in
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generosity of the american people. i see it every day. i see it in all of you. i saw it in the four people that i had dinner with last night. in addition to victor, one guy who joined us was a guy named mark turner. he works with high school dropouts to help get them back on track. used to be a successful corporate executive. decided he wanted to give something back. you have got valerie. she's a single mom, engineer, owns a small business. she's doing great things. even though sometimes it's a struggle making sure that she keeps her business afloat. she's persevered and is helping her son get his college education. then you have megan forest. she's a fire plug. she's president of the town fork creek neighborhood association. she's got so many things going on. after school programs and mentoring programs and
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basketball leagues and all kinds of things. i couldn't keep track of them. and to listen to them talk, it made you optimistic. it reminded you, they are good people out here. >> the president seeming to have a really good time out there in kansas city and channeling harry truman. beating up on congress as a do-nothing congress and saying that the only thing they've scheduled today is that lawsuit against him, which wouldn't even take effect if it even gets to court until after he's left office. we'll have more in a moment. be back after this break. which is why he's investing ain his heart health by eatingw. kellogg's raisin bran ® good morning dad. hi, sweetie. here's another eye opener,
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nancy have shown significant improvement. >> she's stable as dad put it. she's fighting through it and continuing to express a few symptoms but she's able to move around on her own. getting lots of fluids into her. she's working real hard to get through this. >> joining me to answer some of the big questions we all have about the spread of this disease is dr. anthony fauci. it's great to see you. this is a big scare. any time you hear ebola, and it is an historic scale in africa, let's talk about the crisis as far as it could affect people traveling from africa, from various places in western africa to the united states. should there be travel restrictions as we hear hong kong and the uk and other countries have been placing on
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air travel. >> well, the cdc right now has a level two alert which means that you can travel but you really have to stay extra alert, particularly to avoid people who are sick. one of the things people need to understand is that this virus is transmitted from one person to another when a person is really quite ill and gets into direct contact with bodily fluids, be that vomit, flood, feces, urine or what have you. the chance of being affected just by being in a place in which you aren't exposed to sick people is very, very low. heads-up, take extra precautions but not any significant restrictions on the actual travel. >> you can imagine, though, how people, especially in this summer travel season might say wait a second. i'm not sure i'll want to be in a middle seat an a 12-hour flight next to someone who is coughing and sneezing. >> that's not a lot of bodily fluid, but that is frightening to people.
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>> well, sure. that's true. you can understand people feeling that way, but first of all, there's a big alert now in the western african countries about making sure people who are ill don't get on planes. that's the first thing. secondly, even if someone like that person who flew from liberia to nigeria was on a plane and they are being now contact tracing, the people who are on the plane, there's no indication there was any spread, it's very difficult to spread sitting next to someone who is relatively well, even though they may not be feeling as well. as long as you aren't in direct contact with the bodily fluids. it's never impossible but it's highly unlikely that that would occur. >> and what about the people, the missionaries and other health care workers who have been -- who had been in direct contact with dr. brantley. for instance, one has self-quarantined. are they at risk? >> oh, certainly. any time you have health care worker as you've seen, as reported from those countries,
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people who come into contact with the people who are sick clearly are at risk. if you do pristine and perfect personal protective equipment put on right, sealed right and taken off directly, the chances of getting infected are extraordinarily low. but under the very stressful conditions these brave people are under taking care of these people, often when you are in a very hot suit that's taped in with a hood and a mask and goggles, sometimes the protocol gets broken inadvertently. that's what seems to be happening in the health care workers who are getting infected. it's a very, very difficult situation. so they are at the highest risk. family members who touch a person, morticians who take care of the body, ministers who minister spiritually to the people and come in direct contact, those are the people at the most risk. >> and now there is the threat of violence or other harm, physical harm coming to these brave health care workers because of cultural distinctions
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and anger locally against them. fear they are transmitting the disease. >> that is a difficult problem because the health care workers and the people who are trying to provide help are doing the best they can. and there's a lot of fear and sometimes panic. and when you see that, when people get terrified of disease they tend to try to blame people. what we're seeing in some instances is the people that are trying to help, people who are health care workers are actually not being exactly welcomed by the people in those areas and in fact, in some respects of being attacked by them. that compounds the difficult problem we're seeing in those western african countries. >> dr. fauci, thanks for taking time for us. we really appreciate it. >> good to be with you. now a terrible story. ramstein air force base in germany, the death of a young stowaway now raising serious concerns about u.s. military security, to say nothing of the loss of this child. the body of a boy was found
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this is the sixth time one of their schools have been struck. i'm joined by a spokesperson for the u.n. relief and works agency. thanks, mr. gunnes for being with us. you've been tweeting about this. this is just horrific. what do we know about the source of the rocket fire that hit the school today? >> well, first of all, let me say that we notified the israeli army of the exact position of the school and the fact that there were 3,300 people there, precisely 17 times. and in spite of that, it is clear from our initial investigation that it was israeli artillery that hit the school and caused all of these deaths. now don't forget that these are people who had already been told by that same israeli army to abandon their homes in northern gaza, to walk through a battlefield and get out of harm's way. they did that.
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and they came to a u.n. sanctuary expecting safe haven. what happens, the artillery from that same army crashes into the building and the consequences were absolutely tragic. >> at this stage, what communication do you have with the israeli army because they, of course, say that there's artillery fire coming, that they are returning fire into this kind of a very dense area. and that these kinds of civilian losses are tragic. apparently unavoidable from their perspective. i don't know even how to describe this kind of conflict anymore that we've been seeing. >> you're quite right. it's very hard to comprehend why in one of the most densely populated parts of the world we're having this high intensity warfare. first of all there is no
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evidence there were militants in our school and there's certainly no evidence there were rockets in that school. and there is international law, the principle of distinction, competence and noncompetence have got to be distinguished. also the question of proportionality. if you're going to kill perhaps one militant or not very many, to put at risk 3,300 people, is highly questionable. so the question for us is, parties to this conflict have an international law obligation to respect civilian life, to respect the sanctity of civilian life, to respect the invaluablity of u.n. premises and property and respect their humanitarian law obligations to protect humanitarian workers. we've already lost five, five of my colleagues have been killed in this war. most organizations would have pulled out. but because we've got over 200,000 people in 83 shelters across the gaza strip, they are
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overflowing with people. there are terrible problems of sanitation. we've got to get food, blankets, water, all sorts of sanitary items to these schools. we will not abandon the people of gaza, but we've reached breaking point. we will soon have a situation where tens of thousands of people if they continue to leave their homes in the streets of gaza without food, without water, without shelter, serious chances that communeicable diseases will break out. this is beyond -- we've reached breaking point. it's time for the parties of of this conflict to accept their responsibilities to the civilians caught up in this conflict. >> and i know that you have acknowledged that at empty schools, three empty schools, some rockets were found and that you inspect these and notify the israelis. you've been proactively, the u.n. says, going after these incidents. but that that does not justify what happens to the schools that are being used as shelters.
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>> absolutely. >> we have slight satellite delays -- i want to share with our viewers some of your tweets which have been so profoundly moving. you've been tweeting, children killed in their sleep. this is an affront to all of us. today the world stands disgraced. so it doesn't -- even if you set aside who is at fault here, who started it, who responded, your point is someone has to stop this. >> and my point is that gaza represents a catastrophic failure of the entire international system. this war didn't come out of nowhere. this is the third time in the last five years that we have seen an extraordinary outburst of violence. and it is outrageous and unsustainable in our view that 6 million israeli civilians should be terrorized by rockets every few years. and it's equally unsustainable
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that 2 million people in gaza should be subjected to this terrible, terrible bombardment that they are now going through. that's why we say when the last drop of blood has been spilled and when the last gun has fallen silent, and i pray that will happen immediately, there must be serious international engagement with addressing the underlying causes of the conflicts in gaza and that has to include the blockade itself because unless that happens, the risk is that in two years time, exactly the same thing will happen again. and that, andrea, is precisely why i say that gaza represents a catastrophic failure of all of us. >> indeed. we all have to take responsibility for this. we've covered it for years. mr. gunness, thank you. our condolences to all involved. thank you for your service. >> thank you so much. and which political story will make headlines in the next 24 snow showehours?
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and which political story will make headlines in the next 24 hours. we're 24 hours away from the senate and house either going home for the recess or extending to get something done. which do you think it's going to be, chris cillizza? >> well, i mean, i always think bet on with this congress, bet on them not getting it done an time. so maybe a day over, andrea, but by the next 48 hours, by the end of this week, they will be home. i don't think we'll have an immigration border deal. the funding differences are so vast. president obama asking for almost $4 billion. house republicans cutting that down to, i think, around $650 million. it just seems unlikely there. maybe a day extra but they are going to go home for five weeks at a time when you carried president obama's speech live. i was watching it off air. at a time when relations between the two groups never
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particularly warm have grown to be just entirely frosty. >> and the house today is going to do that -- the rules committee is going to do the lawsuit against the president. they'll vote on that before they go home. they're going to do the veterans reform but then that has to go turnov over to the senate. that's not going to get done before they leave for the recess. and immigration a nonstarter. >> you know, the veterans affairs reforms will happen. you're right. it may not happen before they go back, but it will happen. that's the one thing, i think, you take from this period that does get done. the reason, of course, that gets done, it's one of the very rare things in this country that is not a partisan issue that that's waiting for care not getting adequate care, something both parties agree on. that's why that gets done although i'd say that is something there was considerable debate on and a deal was just
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cut this week. president obama, the speech he gave in your hour, very campaign heavy, telling republicans to stop hating on him, stop being mad, stop hating everything. not that any speech he gives would have been tremendously well received by congressional republicans but that one in particular is not going to put a smile on many faces. >> i should point out, it was the rules committee yesterday in the house. they were debating that lawsuit and actually voting. >> vote today. >> thank you, chris cillizza. we'll take another watch at it tomorrow. coming up today at 3:00 p.m., this is a big deal. an exclusive interview on "the cycle." senators cory booker and rand paul, an unlikely duo in their first live joint television interview. they'll be talking to ar ari melber. that's today at 3:00 on "the cycle." that does it for this edition of "andrea mitchell reports." follow the show online on facebook and on
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