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a senate committee finally fast tracks a new ambassador to russia. it only took five months without anyone in that role during which time we definitely did not face any difficulties with russia. >> the impact on the russian economy continues to mount. >> but the u.s. and the eu hit moscow with new economic punishments. >> going after the russian financial institutions, going after the energy companies. that will only intensify the impact on the russian economy. two u.s.-based groups are ordering all nonessential personnel to evacuate in response to the largest ebola outbreak in history. about seven shells landed in the vicinity of this school, including the courtyard and some of the outer lying areas. that led to the killing of at least 15 palestinians. >> 1:00 p.m. on the east coast.
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10:00 a.m. an the west. dozens are believed dead in ap israeli strike a short while ago on a crowded market in gaza. more than 100 injured. this follows the shelling of a u.n. school in which 15 were killed. thousands of palestinians were taking refuge inside that school compound and a spokesman for the u.n. relief agency spoke to andrea mitchell about it moments ago. >> they came to a u.n. sanctuary expecting safe haven. what happens? the artillery from that self same army crashes into the building and the consequences were absolutely traffic. >> bombarded gaza over tonight. the most sustained attack in this fight yet. there's dramatic video of yesterday's attack an gaza's only power plant. you see it there. it's left an estimated 1.8 million people there without any power. to west africa where ebola
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has claimed the life of a leading doctor helping to fight the worst outbreak of that deadly virus on record. dr. sheikh umar kahn died yesterday in sierra leone. he's been credited with treating more than 100 patients. and the condition of an american doctor, kent bradley who had taken a turn for the worst has now improved. he's one of two missionaries who attracted ebola while working in ebola. we're also hearing from the family of nancy writebol. >> she's stable, as dad put it. she's fighting through it. and continuing to express a few symptoms but she's able to move around on her own. and they are getting lots of fluids into her. she's working real hard to get through this. >> that ebola outbreak from west africa has now claimed more than 670 lives. back here in the nation's capital, the house gop is moving forward with today's historic
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lawsuit against president obama. they plan to vote this evening on a resolution authorizing that suit. of course, it's put forward by john boehner. the lawsuit accuses the president of overstepping his constitutional authority when he used executive action to delay the affordable care act, that is obamacare's employer mandate. president obama fired back justice a few minutes ago while in kansas. >> i mean, everybody recognizes this political stunt, but it's worse than that because every vote they are taking like that means a vote they are not taking to actually help you. >> all a sign of just how rosy that relationship between that white house and house republicans has gotten. i'm thinking a spring wedding. in los angeles, a massive water main break has left officials at ucla scrambling to assess damage today. it came from a 93-year-old pipe that burst yesterday near the campus. it sent water gushing 30 feet in
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the air. look at that footage. the result was flooding across steps, streets on the campus basketball courts and even underground parking garages. some spots the water came up to eight inches. it took hours to stop it. up to 10 million gallons of water were lost. that's about as much water as 40 families would use in a single year. in a particularly cruel stroke of irony, this comes during the worst drought in the city's history. and new developments in what has become all-out economic warfare between russia and the west. just this morning, russia retaliated against poland by restricting imports of its fruits and vegetables. this after the u.s. and europe announced new sanctions targeting russia's finance, defense and energy sectors. those sanctions ban russian state-owned banks from western markets. the eu is also banning imports and exports of arms. and both the u.s. and the eu are cracking down on sending
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russian -- sending to russia technology for oil exploration. but what may matter more is what these sanctions fail to do. they avoid russia's biggest state-owned bank. they only restrict future arms contracts which means france can go ahead with the controversial plan they have to send russia war ships and they don't even touch russia's national gas exports that are so crucial to europe. is that going to be enough to chaunge russia's approach to ukraine? if not, what's. joining us for a look at that, senator richard blumenthal, an outspoken critic of president putin. do these sanctions go far enough? >> these sanctions, i think, almost inevitably are going to have to be supplemented. they are going to have to be ratcheted up, particularly in the enforcement. and as you point out, absolutely correctly, some of the major institutions in the rshian economy have been exempted from
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them. so if putin hears the message this go around, great. if he stands down from his support for the russian supported separatists in the, crane by military action there direct and indirect, so much the better, but there will have to be even strong eer sanctions if russia continues down this very dangerous road and putin is at the center of it. >> how long should congress wait to see if these are working? >> the news back, the reaction, i think, will be pretty soon. we'll have a chance to see whether the russian supported separatists allow investigators at the crash site of the plane that went down, which they have so far refused to do. that's a good sign, as well as whether they will continue to shell from russian soil, support
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from russian territory the military ambitions and actions of these separatists in the ukraine. we'll know quickly. i think within a matter of days. >> senator, what happens if president putin, say, retaliates by actually putting an energy embargo an europe. they need that energy. >> they need the energy, but europe, i think, has to be a partner here. the sanctions will be far less effective without europe being an ally and partner. so we're going to have to be prepared to support them in every way that we can. >> how are those restrictions on technology, particularly for oil exploration going to affect american companies. exxon is a wonderful example. they are working a lot with russia. there will be an effect on american companies. not only in the technology that will be constrained but also the investment that will be available because the uncertainty and the insecurity on the part of investors that will result from these actions may well deter additional
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investment. we have to be prepared to do everything possible to constrain and restrict putin's ambitions because they will continue to exspanned if they are unchecked. >> senator, finally we're seeing the hill fast track the appointment of a russian ambassador. we haven't had one for five months. what's taken so long? >> the appointment and confirmation process has been gridlocked like a lot of other things infuriatingly and frustratingly in this congress. nobody is more angry and frustrated about it than i am. and unfortunately it's been part of the delay in ambassadorial confirmations, judgeship approvals. these measures should be the basic work of congress. they should be accomplished in weeks, not months. >> it certain lly seems this is relationship we should have somebody managing. you have a bill that tries to get states to pass tougher laws
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regarding domestic violence perpetrators from getting a hold of guns. there's a lot of day ray about how state level laws respect other state level laws from outside of their own borders. obviously we had washington d.c. come out and say nonresidents with permits to carry guns in d.c. are allowed there without getting charged. there was the counterfactual of that philly mom who was arrested while in, i believe, new jersey. it was legal in her state for her to have a gun. with so much disarray, is state level problem solving like the kind that your legislation advocates? is this the answer? >> here's an area where there ought to be an incontrovertible, noncontroversial standard for stopping domestic violence. remember, it's a scourge that affects literally millions of women, mainly women but some men across the country and guns mixed with domestic violence are
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a toxic recipe. so women are five times more likely to be killed if there's a gun in the househoild when there's domestic violence. the bills that i've offered, number one, would establish a nationwide standard so that any restraining order, which is a clear sign of dangerousness and threat to a woman, would result in a ban on possessing or purchasing new guns. that ought to be nationwide. right now federal law provides for a ban if there's a permanent restraining order but it should apply to temporary restraining orders which operate when a woman is most in danger, at the height of rage. those kinds of first two weeks ought to engage the same protections and then provide the grants and incentives for enforcement of those orders. intimate partners, estranged partners or estranged spouses.
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>> it's a worthwhile initiative. senator blumenthal, appreciate your time on this. up next, the views from within deadly tunnel attacks on israeli forces. this time through the eyes of hamas. these are tunnels netanyahu has vowed to destroy and that means no end in sight to these hostilities. we'll talk with an israeli ambassador, formerly, to the united states. he's got an interesting take on this. don't go away. when you're awake and can't sleep an ounce, unwind with tide, downy, and bounce.
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today. it's only the latest in a string of crushing, devastating attacks in gaza. take a look at this time lapse video that abc news found of israeli air strikes in that area over the course of just one hour yesterday. >> a time lapse camera from 4:00 a.m. to 5:00 a.m., a whole neighborhood reduced to rubble. >> of course, hamas continues to strike back and with terrifying brutality. take a look at this new hamas video showing a militant ambush on monday that killed five israeli soldiers. the fighters came from gaza to israel via tunnels. then disappeared back underground after the assault. but how far is too far in combating that threat? michael oren, former israeli ambassador to the united states is here with me now. he's argued israel should go as far as it has to. thank you, ambassador. hamas and u.n. officials say israel fired on this school. israel says it returned fire in the general direction of the
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school. my question is, how is it that israel with one of the most armies in the world doesn't have the capacity to more precisely target militants in anuary that's known to be home to a school that's densely pop ultsd with refugees? >> i don't think any country in the world has that technology, ronan. good to be with you. the entire situation is tragic. the palestinians who have been killed and wounded in this conflict like the israelis killed and wounded in this conflict are together victims of hamas, which is using a civilian population as a civilian shield, a densely populated area as you mentioned actually no less densely populated than tel aviv behind me. imagine trying to fight in that city. israel is not using the population as a civilian shield. and i strongly think israel should continue fooit with all the costs because in the long run, more lives will be saved. if we keep on repeating the pattern where a cease-fire is imposed and hamas uses the
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cease-fire to get bigger rockets in its arsenal and fires them at israel, more civilian casualties will be caused. >> you say, you know, regardless of the cost. we've actually just had over the wires this very second the -- >> not regardless of the cost. >> let's look at that. they've said israel's shelling of the school in the gaza strip has to be condemned. they are coming out an that side of this. in an op ed you hit on this argument you just alluded to saying israel must be permitted to crush hamas. of course hamas will resist demilitarization and more civilians will suffer but by ending the cycle once and for all, thousands of innocent lives will be saved. by letting israel regain its security with regard to gaza with all the pain it entails, the united states and its allies will be safeguarding their own. my question when we talk about is it at any cost is just that. is there any number of civilian casualties you'd view as too much. >> the idea is to try to reduce civilian casualties to the greatest degree possible. but ultimately, if hamas is able
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to declare victory here, they'll replenish their missile stocks, they'll dig deeper tunnels and it won't be just hamas. it will be terrorist groups throughout the middle east. it will be isis, al qaeda. they are no different theologically and ideologically from hamas. they will draw a deep conclusion from this that they can get away with this type of behavior. n sometimes you have to make very tough decisions going into these neighborhoods. it's nothing that anybody relishes but israel which has a very fractious democracy as you know, israelis agree on nothing. close to 100% consensus in this country that we're willing to go in and take whatever it -- take whatever measures are necessary, given the very difficult strictures were under trying to avoid civilian casualties. risking international censor in order to defend ourselves from what we see as a threat which will not get any less, only greater. >> my issue is doesn't going farther and farther down this path to wipe out hamas
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regardless of the level of collateral risk creating more anti-israeli sentiment, fuelling the very terrorism is seeks to address? >> i want to be precise. i'm not talking about removing hamas. other terrorist organizations in gaza that could move into fill into that vacuum. i am talking about demilitarizing the gaza strip. similar to the way that syria was demilitarized from its chemical arsenals. it's an important precedent and president obama quite rightly takes pride in that treatment. i want to apply that president to gaza. but the answer to your question is that this situation, to the degree you can try to minimalize civilian casualties, that's essential but you are dealing with an enemy that is using that civilian population. it wants those pictures up on your screen because it knows that it generates international pressure on israel. it delegitimizes israel. if we have a choice between having bad pictures on msnbc, painful pictures or having
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funerals in our state cemeteries, we'll choose the bad pictures. >> for this to end, don't you have to address the root causes, not just stamp out the terrorists themselves? don't you have to change conditions in gaza, make it so they don't have to smuggle in basic goods? >> well, israel pulled out of gaza in 2005. there was no maritime blockade. the borders were essentially open. was when hamas took over the gaza strip in 2007. it killed hundreds of pl palestinians. threw them off top of roofs. and it's a terrorist organization. it's a terrorist organization whose covenant calls not only for the destruction of israel but it's a genocidal organization. that calls for the killing of jews worldwide. it's one of many terrorist organizations that have such covenants in our region. we live in a tough neighborhood. that's when the maritime blockade started. when the border strictures were put in place. but even after the flotilla
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incident if you remember in 2010, israel greatly eased up the restrictions. cement was brought in. vast amounts of cement brought in to build buildings. it went to building tunnels. to building bunkers for rockets. the people of gaza didn't get it. the terrorists got it. so i think we can look at a situation where if israel is allowed to deliver a very painful blow to hamas, if gaza is demilitarized, if moderate palestinians can be deployed along the border and even used in the demilitarization then we can look forward to a better situation for everybody. israelis and palestinians alike. >> you paint that rosy picture in your conclusion to that op ed. i just have to wonder given israel's past track record on the conditions they are maintaining in gaza and as you point out. necessity to that in terms of keeping weapons out, whether there is any chance of it changing and improving in the way you hope. >> if you don't strive for it it's not going to happen. >> that much i share. appreciate your time.
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competition versus less than 100 in support of them holding it. look at that graph there. that line at the bottom is people saying russia should keep these games. many of you took this fight fifa who tweetd, it's time to take away the world cup from russia and play it in brazil again. why not use those stadiums again. and roland called out the players saying it's time for the top footballers to take a stand. act now and tell the world your opinions. coming up today, take a look at this -- >> as americans, we're constantly diving over into other countries like helping out children over there. and we're not even touching home base with what's happening here. >> the heartbreaking crisis right here at home. hundreds of thousands of young people falling through the cracks. we're going to tell you why next. ♪
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they have these life skill classes and life skills are like how to put on a condom. let's open you up a chase bank account. do i have money to put a job into a bank account. are you going to teach me to save? sometimes you don't get the tools to survive. you are backed into this corner. >> for me, the most like terrifying experience was when i used to get abused by the foster parents. i remember being duct taped to the bunk bed and not being able to, you know, to eat or to use the bathroom. i remember getting abused a lot. >> people in foster care aren't bad kids. they are just not taken care of very well. and it's kind of like they see that and they are like, fine. take care of myself then. >> three stories of a broken foster care system. and today, a fight mounting on how to fix it. in ohio, community leaders are meeting to press for more years
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of life training. nationally, legislation to support young americans in the foster care system is making its way through congress. here's why this matters. when these young people age out of foster care, they are falling through the cracks. nearly 60% of young men in one university of chicago study had been convicted of a crime after leaving the system. more than 75% of young women became pregnant and almost 25% were homeless. joining me is republican congressman david reichert of washington. democratic congressman karen bass of california. they are behind legislation trying to hit back at this problem. congresswoman bass, there are 397,000 young people in foster care. is the system setting them up to fail? >> well, the system can set them up to fail but that's exactly why we've introduced legislation to begin to repair things in the system that we know full well are broken. and i think that this is an example of a bipartisan issue, and i'm very excited that we passed legislation out of the
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house unanimously last week to help improve the system. >> congressman reichert, you are the sponsor of this bill. it ames in part to address this. how would it help specifically? >> it does a number of things. first of all, we want to create an opportunity for kids to have loving homes. that's number one. so what we want to do is incentivize states and state systems to increase the adoption rates and also focus on adopting older children. then also their incentives for the 1st time on the federal law for guardianship to help place kids in guardianship. these kids move from foster home to foster home to foster home. they have nowhere to call home. nowhere to go to thanksgiving, christmas, easter, you name the holiday. they need a loving home to have success, to have a hope for successful life. >> and congresswoman, you are a co-sponsor of this bill. what do you say to people who think these foster kids receive too many services for too long
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that it's maybe building dependency. >> if you think of children in the foster care system and you want to know what they need, they need the same thing as any other child. when we, the government, remove a child from home, then they are our responsibility. and we need to do everything we can to make sure they are successful. as your earlier report demonstrated, if we don't take care of them while they are underor care, then you know what happens to them afterwards. so we either take care of them now or we will take care of them for the rest of their life. i don't think that benefits anybody. >> congressman, more than 20 states at this point have used federal funding to expand foster care up to the age of 21. that seems to be pending in other states. is that the best use of resources to keep these young people an their feet and even out of prison? >> well, yes. you know, look. we're talking about in the past, you aged out at 18 years old. these 18-year-olds then end up on the street with again no place to call home. so i think extending it to 21 is
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absolutely right. my past history is in law enforcement. i was the lead investigator on the green river serial murder case. when you drive down the street if you see ten young people an the street today involved in human trafficking, six out of ten of those are foster kids. and as ms. bass said, we have to take care of those kids. they are our responsibility. we need to get them off the street and into good homes. >> and you know there's been an awful lot of coverage about sex trafficking but we have viewed it as an international problem. but now just as the congressman said, we are founding out within our own country in our own neighborhoods, girls in particular are being involved in sex trafficking so legislation we both worked on is looking to address that as well. so the child welfare system needs to recognize that domestic sex trafficking has involved in a disproportionate manner kids in the foster care system. >> i'm glad you raised that. we just saw that 168 children
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were rescued in a nationwide fbi sex trafficking sting. and there is some evidence that many of those may be foster kids. why are they so much more vulnerable? >> well, because they don't have the support and so what happens to especially after they age out, if they have nowhere to go, they have to survive. so if people don't have a loving home, then they become victims to sex traffickers. there's also a lot of evidence of girls who are as young as 12 years old being caught up in sex trafficking. and this is something that a lot of gangs in certain states have begun to add to drug trafficking, trafficking of girls. this is something that has to stop. >> i think it's important for our listeners to remember that these kids are coming from broken homes already. >> exactly. >> so they are leaving broken homes going to the street. and they end up in foster care and it's a struggle for them because they are carrying baggage full of problems.
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and sometimes those problems aren't being addressed in the foster care world. they run away. they end up on the street. and even if they stay in a foster home for a while, foster parents sometimes in the foster care system will not allow them to participate in after-school activities. >> having talked to a lot of individuals in the foster care system, the stakes of this are so clear. emotionally and also for our nation. this is a huge swauths of our next generation. we are letting them fall through the cracks. you are doing an important job trying to focus on this when so few are. it also warms my heart to see a republican and democratic representative joining forces on this. >> yes. >> a foethank you for your cove. >> you're welcome. >> everyone at home is going to join in. for call to action we're asking you to support congressman reichert's bill hr 4058. head to ronan daily.msnbc.com to
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well. joining me, one of the stars of the film, tara reid and director anthony seferante. the first one generated 5,000 tweets a minute. here are some. wil wheaton, i'm not so sure about the science in this movie. tara, your reaction? >> the science in this movie? there really is no science. it's a joke. i kid around a lot on it, but it's a fun movie. >> it is definitely that. here's another one. wil wheaton said -- i'm sorry, that was wil wheaton. here's another one. can't wait to see how msnbc and fox news cover this developing sharknado story. here we are. how much of a surprise has this buzz been, anthony? >> it's been great. we made this low-budget movie. shot it in 18 days. probably had the budget of the craft service budget on a batman movie for one day and we ended up with this pop culture
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phenomen phenomenon. no one ever thought it would be what it is. we thought we'd all be destroying our careers going don with flaming sharks. we're talking about a sequel and everybody knwe know wanted to b in the movie. you want to tap into something and we made people happy for a few minutes. that's kind of important. >> was there any conversation about whether you should do the second one? >> no. i mean, the first one, originally it was called "dark skies." so i thought -- >> such a worse title, am i right? >> i thought that was, when it was "dark skies," okay, that doesn't look that bad. >> we tricked you. >> and then all of a sudden, yes, it sounded good. then a couple days into the film they are like, oh, we changed it into "sharknado." i thought, this is the end of my career. this is never going to work. this is horrible. it turned out to be a blessing in disguise. >> did you say i'm a thespian, darn it, and try to class up the script? or -- >> no, they kept trying to
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change the title. i said just trust me. if it's called "sharknado," we'll be okay. >> we had so much fun making it and also it makes sense. a sharknado is a sharknado. >> why didn't anyone think of the concept before? let's talk numbers. 1.4 million people watched the first airing. 14 million caught re-airs so it picked up pace after that. there was some discussion this was more a social media hit than a tv hit. do the numbers an tv matter when it's getting so much social media traction? >> that's the thing. it's a misnomer because we knew that a lot of people watched the movie and it wasn't just social media because people were commenting about the movie on twitter that night. we thought it was this g gargantuan thing. as it increased and started getting really crazy you see that this thing was just huge. these movies have a base.
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a base audience that's going to show up no matter what. somehow we got everybody else. the right wing and left wing and baseball fans and football fans, the sports community and mainstream america. there are kids that love this movie. we've been at conventions and 5 to 12-year-olds come up and are obsessed. it has that spirit of a 12-year-old. that's the cool part about why it blew up. >> it's a huge phenomenon. appreciate your being here. thank you so much. is your mom watching it tonight? >> you know it. she was a huge, huge fan of the 1 1 first one. stick around. we have another story about real sharks. one beach where surfers cannot get enough of sharks. despite the danger. see that footage there? a deep dive for you up ahead. we'll get tara and anthony's reaction. in the nation, the safest feature in your car is you. add vanishing deductible from nationwide insurance
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about sharks and sharknado is solid gold. we'll keep this going for another block. florida led the world in shark
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attacks last year. 23 unprovoked attacks, none of them in tornado form and not a single one fatal. our friends at vocativ take us inside the florida county with more close encounters than any other. we want to warn you there's some injury pictures here in case you are, say, eating lunch. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> new smyrna is known as the shark bite capital of the world. i've surfed over them. had one jump out in front of me.
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i kind of swerved around and stayed on the wave and got it. >> i finally walk up and the guy goes, dude, dude, did you see that shark. and out of here. there was no shark out there. >> it's what i've always loved to do all my life. got my first wave when i was like 3 years old. i was the fifth one to get bit this year. >> we're getting so many people in the water now. of course, the population of humans rises every year. and with them does the number of cell phones and eyes on the water. there's a temptation in certain quarters to overblow the significance of the observations because they are common. and, say, there's more sharks out there or there's more attacks when it's really more a function of more reporting.
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any reference to a shark is worthy of being put on social media sites and then get picked up in blogs and make it to the mainstream media. >> the media seems to definitely overblow the shark attacks. usually they won't touch you when they can see actually what you are. the people that usually get bit, it's murky water, and there's usually bait fish in the water. it's mostly like mistaken identity. >> when i see a lot of sharks, i just put my hands up and feet up and let them go by. >> i went surfing. i got bit, and i was about to catch a wave and jumped off. i felt a shark bite my leg, so i was trying to get it off. it wouldn't let go. it kept on ripping at it. i had to rip it out of its mouth. >> with the shark, tried to kick it away. it clamped on, and he tried to pull it back. but it was pretty chunky. i saw the blood running down his foot. it was a pretty good bite. >> that was horrible. there was bone and meat hanging out of my foot and stuff. bloody. disgusting. >> his reaction was, oh, great,
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when can i surf again? >> i'm guessing i'll be out there right when it heals. i'm not going to wait any longer six to eight weeks. >> i'd keep surfing if i got bit. >> no one i know has stopped surfing because they got bit by a shark. >> they're always out here. this is their ocean, not ours. >> we do what we love, and we're in their territory. we have to, you know, accept it. >> back for another bite, actress tara reid and the director of "sharknado 2." and jeff corwin. in that piece we heard, maybe it's more reporting, more access to cell phones, not more bites. what do you think? >> sort of interesting. on one side, because of good conservation, we've seen an increase in sharks. for example, great white sharks off of new england and off of california, largely because of an increase in seal population. but statistically, around the world and in the u.s., there has not been an increase of shark attacks.
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we get about a dozen a year, one or two fatalities. you have a better chance of being killed by bees, winning the lottery, and being struck by lightning than being killed by a shark. >> jeff, you heard also that individual in the piece saying the media overbloes the shark stigma. what do you think "sharknado" does in terms of the perception of sharks? >> you watch a movie like that hoping to have fun. hopefully any rational person realizes this isn't a true story. >> i thought it was a documentary. >> well, most incredible if it is. it's up there with the mermaid one. i think statistically what we need to look at it how media can impact what we feel about sharks. for example, pete pr benchly, w wrote "jaws" regrets that because of the impact it had on shark conservation. i think if people have an open mind, then enjoy the film. >> tara, anthony, has making
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these movies changed your relationship with real life sharks? >> well, you know, one of the things that's interesting is someone was telling me their grandchildren were terrified of sharks until they saw "sharknado." then they were okay with it. "jaws" made it afraid to go in the water. >> tara, are you more or less afraid of sharks? >> i mean, i've always been afraid to get bit by a shark, but making "sharknado" absolutely made me not as afraid because it's so funny. >> how are you afraid of sharks? l.a. is full of sharks. nothing but. >> different kind of shark. >> thank you for navigating this and bringing us this fantastic story. appreciate it. >> thank you. all right. and here's our good corporate employee message. nbc universal is wanting to let the nation know "sharknado 2" debuts on scyfy tonight. now it's time for "the reid report." this time with my colleague krystal ball. don't go in the water. also, good luck with your serious stories.
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>> good advice. thank you. we are making a bit of a serious turn here next on "the reid report." the fighting continues between israel and hamas as desperation grows on the ground in gaza. we will have a live report from there. then, the latest on the ebola threat and how governments are responding. and in our next installment of generation to generation, journal jack jacobs and fellow medal of honor recipient kyle carpenter on a lifetime of sacrifice and service. "the reid report" is coming up next.
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hello, everyone. i'm krystal ball in for joy reid. this is "the reid report." we begin with the staggering new death toll in the israeli-palestinian conflict as another u.n. school is hit overnagt. we will have a live report from the ground about the realities of what life is actually like in this war-torn region.
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then the deadly ebola virus just one plane ride away that has two american volunteers right now fighting for their lives. >> we will continue to focus on praying for kent. >> the number of possible new cases grows daily. >> she's fighting through it. she's working real hard to get through this. >> two u.s.-based groups are ordering all nonessential personnel to evacuate. and workers who mounted a wage war against a fast food giant just won. we will tell you about a new decision that could turn the tide for the labor movement. but we start with the unyielding violence in gaza as more attacks land on civilians. and as food, electricity, and water become scarce in the region. a short time ago, at least a dozen were killed in a busy marketplace with hamas vowing to respond forcefully. the white house has condemned an attack earlier today on another u.n. school that's serving as a
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refugee center, this time killing at least 15. all told, more than 1200 palestinians, mostly civilians, have died along with 53 israeli soldiers and three civilians there. while there have been three instances confirmed by the u.n. of militants' rockets found in these schools, the u.n. says is these were empty at the time of attack. a u.n. spokesman told andrea mitchell today that israel should have known very well the school attacked today housed refugees. >> we notified the israeli army of the exact position of this school and the fact that there were 3,300 people there, precisely 17 times. and in spite of that, it is clear from our initial investigation that it was israeli artillery that hit the school and caused all of these deaths. >> nbc's ayman mohyeldin