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condemnation, after an attack hit another u.n. shelter wednesday, killing more than a dozen. >> the shelling of a u.n. facility that is housing innocent civilians who are fleeing violence is totally unacceptable and totally indefensible. and it is clear that we need our allies in israel to do more to live up to the high standards that they have set for themselves. >> nbc foreign correspondent richard engel joins me live from gaza. richard, as i just mentioned, israel is saying they are not going to stop until all of those tunnels are destroyed. do we have any sense of how long that would actually take? >> reporter: we think we have a sense, and we think we know what the israelis are thinking, and it's not clear that they're going to destroy all of the tunnels. i'm not even sure if the israelis know where all of the tunnels are or believe that they

know where all of the tunnels are. we saw that very strong statement from netanyahu saying there will be no cease-fire until our mission to destroy the tunnels is complete. and quite a definitive statement from the israeli prime minister. israeli military sources tell us that israel thinks that it needs another four or five days to complete the military mission, to destroy the tunnel network. if not all of them, most of them. and then at that stage israel could pull back the troops it has on its border, pull back the reservists, send the reservists back home, which would be good for the israeli economy, which has been somewhat on pause during all of this, and perhaps we could see a deescalation, but i say perhaps, because a lot could happen between now and then. israel only gets a vote in this conflict. hamas has a vote as well. today here in gaza we saw hamas rockets, maybe ten of them, flying from the gaza strip toward israel. we were watching the smoke

trails. at least eight israelis were injured by those rockets. and today and we can hear them right now we've been watching israeli drones flying in the day circling. today was a particularly clear day today in gaza and the drones are low. so where we are right now, we could look up and watch the drones circling. we could watch f-16s circling as well and even see when they were dropping the bombs on their targets here in gaza. so this is clearly not over yet. the inner yssue about the humann crisis, the schools used as shelters, six hit so far, the latest one on wednesday, the latest deadly attack on wednesday. that is a major problem here. people in gaza simply feel that they don't have anywhere safe to go, krystal. >> thank you so much, richard engel. please stay safe. breaking news now out of washington. lawmakers 11th hour scramble to respond to the humanitarian crisis at our border, earlier today house lawmakers debated a

gop-backed supplemental bill to deal with that crisis. debate was supposed to be followed by a vote and potentially debate on another bill, that one aimed at stopping president obama and the deferred action for childhood arrivals program or as we call it daca, but in a last-minute maneuver just motel ago, house leadership bailed on the vote and went directly into debating a highway funding bill. congressman henry cuellar is a democrat from texas. a large portion of his district borders mexico. thank you for joining us. >> thank you so much. >> so a lot of confusion there with your colleagues on the hill. i want to read a little bit of a statement that we got from republican leadership on the fact that the vote was pulled and did not occur on the $659 million border bill that they had been proposing. they said this situation shows the intense concern within our conference and among the american people about the need to ensure the security of our

borders. the president's refusal to faithfully execute our laws. congressman, what's your sense of what happened there today? >> unfortunately, we're going to leave washington without coming up with a practical solution. it's disappointing because i love there, i work down there, you know, this is an area that i represent and i know what's happening down there, so it's very unfortunate that both democrats and republicans couldn't get together. there's just been so many undercurrents. as you know, president obama was in favor of the policy change and now he's against it, which is unfortunate that we couldn't get democrats and republicans to work together on this humanitarian crisis that we have. >> and i want to talk about that policy proposal in a minute. but on the specific proposal that the republicans were thought to offer today, the $659 million that they were expected to vote on, that you were expected to vote on today, how were you planning to vote on that piece? >> i was going to support that. that's only for -- it was going

to be only for 60 days, that's why it's a small amount. it had the language of the 2008 policy change that a lot of us feel that we ought to make a change so we can close that loophole. unfortunately, you know, like president john f. kennedy said, i'm not looking for a democratic or republican solution to this crisis, we need to find an answer and people need to get together, so it's very disappointing that we didn't come together as a congress to address this issue. >> and congressman, as you are referencing there, you partnered with texas senator john cornyn, republican obviously, to put forward what's been called -- what you've named the humane legislation. part of what that would do would be to make changes to that 2008 law dealing with how unaccompanied children from central american countries will be handled and how they will be processed before sending them back home, if that is indeed what should happen in that process. and what you wanted to do in

your legislation is make the handling of children from central america the same as handling of children from mexico, that essentially puts the burden on border patrol agents as the line of first defense in deciding whether or not these children should be classified as asylum seekers. are border patrol agents the right people to make that determination? >> well, first of all, you're working off a false premise. border patrol under the law, and i live down there and i work with this on a daily basis, all they're going to do, how they treat mexicans is they ask them from ages 14 and above if they want to voluntarily return themselves. if they say no, i want to go, i have a claim, i have a credible fear, then they go through the regular process that everybody does, and that's the problem. there's a lot of misinformation and understanding of how this does -- >> let me stop you there because there was a u.n. report, a

secret u.n. report that looked into the way that mexican children were treated, which again is the way that you've proposed that all central american children be treated. and what they found is even though as you're saying practically it should be the border patrol agents asking the first questions and then moving on with the process, what they said in that report is that in all sectors of the border visited, border patrol communicated to the u.n. that mexican unaccompanied alien children are always returned to mexico. aren't you concerned about that? >> again, you're basing this on a false premise. again, it's ages 14 to 17. if it's somebody under the age of 13, they go through the regular process, that's what the law calls for, number one. number two, if it's ages 14 and 17, if they have a claim, they go through the regular process. if they want to voluntarily return themselves, then they're handed over to the mexican consulate. the mexican consulate again reviews the record, talks to the

teenager and asks them are you sure? you've got a right under the law to stay here and go before an immigration judge. so then at that time if the mexican consulate feels that that's the way to go, then they hand them over to a social agency. so again, there is so much misinformation out there -- >> again, this came from a u.n. report which i take to be a pretty credible source. but congressman, i did want to get your thoughts real quick on a separate but related issue. the president has indicated he may be willing to go forward with another executive order, something like the daca program that he already put in place, extending that potentially to a larger population. what are your thoughts on that? what are you hoping the president will or won't do? >> again, i have no idea what he wants to do. and again, let me wait to see what he says. do i believe in the dreamers who are here? absolutely. do i feel that we ought to

address the human traffic 2008 law, border crisis that we have? that's totally a different issue. once a human trafficking law and again, you can base it on the u.n. i trust more the border patrol, also the mexican consulate to work on this on a daily basis. and again, i don't know what the president wants to do, but i do know that even on this current issue, he was for it before he was against it. it's unfortunate because we've got to address the humanitarian crisis and we're going home without addressing this crisis. >> congressman henry cuellar, thank you so much for your time. nbc's luke russert joins me now live from capitol hill. luke, they were so confident this morning, the republican caucus, the leadership, it seemed like they had all come together around the $659 million, plus the vote on daca. what the heck happened? >> you know, krystal, i've been here since the beginning of john

boehner's leadership on capitol hill and i've seen a lot of these where the vote gets pulled last minute because they just don't have the support. i have never been more shocked about one than what just happened today. the house gop leadership was very confident all week they'd of support for this plan. they brought this down from originally $1.5 billion to $660 million to appease the conservative right within their conference. this was done to make sure this could get through, because john boehner did not want to go into the august recess allowing the president to slam the house gop for not doing anything. well, guess what happened? last night some conservative members met with ted cruz. they said they would not support this bill, even though you had democrats, a few moderate ones saying they would support it. so ted cruz literally just cut off the house gop at the knees as they head into a five-week recess regarding the issue of immigration and the border crisis. this is amazing.

it's also amazing, krystal, because this was the first vote the new house gop leadership had. this is kevin mccarthy and steve scalise, the new whip. but the grade on this one is a fail because they weren't able to get this forward. a few republicans were very perplexed. they were ready to start going over to vote. it was so surprising that the democratic whip operation had put out an e-mail get ready to vote no on this and then pulled it right back. this was signed, sealed and delivered and they were not able to produce a real terrible blow to the house gop leadership in this new team that's been put together, krystal. >> wow, that is remarkable. now they go home and nothing is accomplished. unbelievable. >> and i'll throw this in real quickly. the week the house gop voted to sue the president over his issue of executive actions, they are now encouraging him on a statement to act by himself regarding the border. you really can't make that up. >> that is just remarkable.

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>> glad to be here. >> i'm feeling drunk on my power here. yesterday i asked him to do something similar, he went ahead and did it. i have to say on the substance of the executive order that the president signed today, it may sound like nothing. it's not nothing, though. in fact 35 of the 100 largest labor violators in terms of the fines assessed were federal contractors. so why should our taxpayer dollars be going to bad actors in terms of their labor violations? so i think this makes a lot of sense here. >> yeah, i think it's a brilliant bill. it's one of those things when the public hears about it, we're all thinking, wait, this wasn't law already? about time. the united states government has always been able to or should always set the standard for effective workplace policies as far as diversity, as far as discrimination, as far as health, as far as safety, so this is another example of the president actually doing his job, believe it or not, and taking care of a policy that i think long term everyone in this country will benefit from. >> jason, just when i think i

have the republican house caucus figured out a little bit, they throw another loop at me. and today, so after suing the president for too many executive actions and then saying they're going to vote on this immigration bill today and then pulling the vote, the leadership of the house caucus, which luke russert just pointed out is now saying they want the president to take action on his own, they say there are numerous steps the president can and should be taking right now without the need for congressional action. so in the very week when john boehner and the republicans voted to sue the president for too many executive actions, they are now saying you aren't doing enough exec uchb actiutive acti >> this is just the bizarro universe republicans live in. in some ways it's john boehner and some ways the tea party extremists. they don't know if he's a golf playing president or an evil dictator who forces laws down the throats of the american people so they do absolutely

nothing. the president then is required to actually do his job. and so the irony of this is that the more incompetent and ineffective the republicans are, the more they create this superpowerful presidency because obama actually wants to see something get done over the next two years he's in office. i think this is turning out to be a huge mistake on the part of the republican party. both this lawsuit, any discussions of impeachment, the failure to get this sort of law passed. it's just empowering democrats heading into the midterms. >> it's been a huge fund-raising boom for dems. $7.6 million overall since the house gop announced the lawsuit. this doesn't seem to be doing much for the republicans but it is doing something for the dems. >> and it's cowardly. let's be honest. if the president has actually done something bad enough to impeach him, then go after him. if we founding out that he was directly telling lois lerner, hey, use the irs to go after my enemies, fine, impeach him.

the idea they keep dancing around this impeachment threat but want to do the lawsuit demonstrates the absolute vapid nature of the republicans' claims here. this is a mistake. they should be trying to push through policy heading into the midterm, not empowering the president of the united states. >> they don't actually agree on much on policy, so going after the president is the only thing they can all seem to agree on. thank you so much, jason johnson. >> thank you. now three things to know this thursday. eric cantor receiving a standing occasion on the house floor today on his very last day as majority leader. you'll recall, of course, cantor lost his primary last month. while he's stepping down as leadership, cantor will still serve as a member of congress until next year. cia director john brennan has apologized to senate intelligence committee leaders after inspector general found cia employees acted improperly when it searched senate computers earlier this year.

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somebody. >> we're training you from the day you join until the day you're out to kill everything that gets in your way. >> well, then why the hell are you pissed off when we do it. >> that was just a sample of some of the chilling and candid interviews contained in the new documentary, "the kill team." the 79-minute film examines cases that you might remember about five american soldiers accused and charged in the killing of three afghan civilians, allegedly for sport. the film, which opens tomorrow, raises some pretty pressing questions about the dehumanization of war at a time when the ground war between israel and hamas is intensifying. as aptly observed in "the new york times," the latest flare-up between israel and the gaza strip has brought a new level of dehumanizing hateful language and a muddying of official talking points with incendiary threats. so the question is when it comes to war, be it iraq, afghanistan or the middle east, are moral

lines blurred beyond recognition? dan krause, the director of "the kill team" joins me now. i want to mention before we jump into this segment that we did reach out to the army for comment and we received this statement. we are aware that a film entitled "the kill team" is appearing in theaters. while we don't have any specific details about the production, to the best of our knowledge the film was produced by a commercial production company without official u.s. army support. all the opinions and discussions reflect the individuals only and do not represent the views or opinions of the u.s. army. dan, thank you so much for joining us today to discuss the film. >> thanks for having me. >> so you look in-depth at one soldier in particular. that was adam winfield. you focus in on him, and you were intrigued by the question of how he went from originally being a whistleblower in this unit, to trying to call attention to the abuses and the war crimes that were happening there, to actually then participating in the murder of

afghan civilians. how did he -- how did he make that switch? >> well, it was under extreme duress. he was part of a unit that was in an isolated segment of southern afghanistan where it was very difficult for him to seek the kind of authority that he thought could put a stop to this, which is why he reached out to his family to ask them for help in alerting the military. after that attempt failed, he was overtaken by fear. he was paralyzed and there was a sense, a strong sense that his life was under threat. he received -- he received a great deal of pressure from his platoon mates to keep quiet, and he felt that at a certain pointing the best course for him was to lay low and try to report the crimes when he returned home. but of course that strategy didn't work in the end. >> and of course none of that is to justify a murder. >> no. >> but it's important to prevent

similar incidents in the future to dig into some of the root causes here. you've got some really quite shocking interviews with a number of his platoon mates as well as adam winfield. let's take a look at a little bit more of the film. >> the first conversation was -- it was based around the idea of a drop weapon. >> i've always heard about people in iraq or afghanistan or whatnot, when you find a weapon, you know, you hold on to it in case you need it. >> during one of our smoke sessions, morelock brought up the fact that he could get easy kills by setting people up. just buy a hand grenade off the books, that's all you need. >> on our minds you've been here for months and nobody is innocent, because these guys either know the taliban, they're either working with them, they're not working with us. >> and the leader of this unit was staff sergeant calvin gibbs, who's portrayed as being sort of the ring leader here, coming up with the plans of how they would murder these civilians and

hopefully get away with it. was this just, you know, a rogue commander, a rogue unit or do you think this is a broader problem within the military? >> well, i certainly think that this in some sense was an isolated incident and that it's not widespread. i mean we're not talking about premeditated murder occurring on a wide scale in afghanistan. but certainly i think there's an argument to be made. we've seen other episodes of atrocities occurring in afghanistan and other conflicts going back decades, hundreds of years, to the annals of history. so we know this kind of thing occurs. it's hard to say how widespread it has been in this conflict. certainly these crimes are unique in the sense that they were premeditated. they talked for weeks and days ahead of actually perpetrating these crimes, and that's what makes them a little bit different. >> it's a really fascinating documentary, dan. to me one of the more troubling aspects was the fact that adam tried to be the whistleblower,

tried to go around and do the right thing and was not able to be successful in that regard. dan krauss, thank you so much. >> thanks for having me. breaking news from capitol hill. about 40 minutes ago, house republicans pulled their border bill from a vote. now just moments ago on the house floor, congressman kevin mccarthy announced additional votes are possible. here is the response from the members. >> the house will be in order. >> wow. chaos down there. nbc's luke russert reports there is a special house gop conference meeting at the top of the hour and they could vote on a border bill after. we will definitely keep you updated on all of that.

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decision to have a meeting today at 3:00 p.m. this is a special meeting. mind you they're all booked on planes to head out of here for their five-week recess, to try to figure out a way forward and possibly vote later today on the border crisis bill. now, what does this mean? if they in fact say they're going to go back to the floor and vote on this border crisis bill and they don't have the votes, that would be an unbelievable embarrassment. so if they are going to move forward on a border crisis bill and they make -- they can't really make any changes to it unless they do an emergency rule, they have to do it very quick because everyone is ready to go, it will be quite interesting to see. >> luke, is this already sort of an unbelievable embarrassment? >> reporter: yeah, it is, for a variety of reasons. this was the week in which the house gop moved to sue the president over his use of executive actions and they basically released a statement saying obama should act on this border crisis with the tools he has available at his disposal,

so that's number one. number two, this was the first whip operation for the new house gop leadership team. steve scalise of louisiana, kevin mccarthy, and that's been a failure. so those are two black eyes right there so far. one thing we're hearing from more conservative members is that if only this idea of repealing daca was included in this bill, that was the president's executive order from 2012 that allowed dreamers to stay here, if that was included there would be more support. one thing the leadership did after the right wing met with ted cruz, all right, you support this bill for funds to the border and we'll give you that bill to repeal the president's daca thing. maybe we see something along those lines again. but i can tell you since i've been covering the hill, about five years now and i've been here through the entire boehner speakership, they have never been called back into a meeting after a bill was pulled like this on a day they were supposed to go on recess. this is unprecedented.

this is wild, to say the least. something that going into the recess if they give up this amount of leverage to the president, i think a lot of members realize that it's a terrible thing to do, but right now that seems to be their play. >> quote from luke russert, this is wild. thank you so much. next, conquering the gender gap in america's board rooms. why it's so much more than just a battle of the sexes.

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there is a new wave of troubling headlines about sexual harassment in the workplace. the popular dating app tinder made headlines last month when a female co-founder filed suit, claiming that she was forced out for speaking up about the company's frat-like atmosphere where she said racist and sexist language was common place.

american apparel controversial founder was suspended after facing years of sexual harassment allegations and questions about his provocative behavior toward employees. this week his clothing company decided to take their own stand. on wednesday american apparel announced a new slate of directors, and for the first time in the company's 25-year history, a woman is joining the top brass. it's a move that just might pay off. an ongoing study finds companies with women co-founders are more likely to generate revenue than those with only men. when more companies look for women to diversify their board rooms, joy reid recently talked with two women warriors who are out to change the face of corporate america. >> natalia is the founder and ceo of the pipeline fellowship and lauren bias is an entrepreneur and the author of "the faith of the path

redefined, kwegt to the top on your own terms." thank you both of you for being here. i want to start with you, natalia, and ask about this question of women in leadership. why would it matter? what difference does it make to have a woman as the boss, a woman at the leadership of a company? >> joy, that's a really great question. just to put it into perspective, the feminist majority foundation said that if we kept at the same rate of progress that we're having right now, it would take about 500 years to reach gender parity, and that's something that we have to change. one of the reasons being that when we do see more women at the helm of start-ups, for example, we actually see greater returns for the start-up. >> lauren, you know, we do still see even with all of the advances that women have made in business and successful entrepreneurs, yourself included, we still see women very much underrepresented as a percentage of ceos and people in

the fortune 500 or running fortune 500 companies. why do you suppose that is? >> the reason that i wrote "the path redefined" was it was an opportunity to synthesize my story and hopefully empower and inspire some other women to own it and to feel as though they deserve it. i think that we don't have enough women who sincerely wake up every day and say i own my place at the table. i own my corner office. i own that opportunity. and sometimes it's just in knowing that we can and in figuring out a way, because you have to of course remember that women have far more jobs outside of work than men ever will. so we've got to hopefully find a way to talk about modern day success and getting to the top on your own terms in a new way. and so there are ways that we can do it and there are ways that we have to feel comfortable and confident in doing it. >> na tallia, you wrote a piece in "time" magazine and this came in response to a sexual

harassment lawsuit by tinder. you said what if in addition to getting women to consider entrepreneurship, venture capitalists joined me in asking men pitching to them do you have a woman co-founder. if they discover is a woman is a leader, can it sometimes be a detriment to things like financing? >> joy, it's a very simple question that i pose. do you have a woman co-founder and the response that i have gotten has been tremendous. one of the reasons is because a lot of people don't think about it. rachel sklar of the list has a saying which is privilege is like oxygen. you don't realize it's there until it's gone. for a lot of us that don't have as much oxygen as a lot of straight white guys, it's something that is really at the forefronti forefront. there was a study recently published and will be announced at the association of management, and it shows that women and people of color get

penalized if they promote someone who looks like them. and that is exactly why we need the straight white guys to be our allies, to promote us, because guess what, we're getting penalized by doing the hard work ourselves. >> interesting, because we try to encourage women to empower each oar but there's also a penalty associated with it. lauren, i'm interested because you're in finance. you're in a field that's very male dominated. at this point 19% of u.s. angel investors were women as of 2013. only 4% were minorities according to the center for venture research. you're both a woman and a minority. how do you survive in that world of venture capital, and did you have resistance to you as a woman? and as a woman of color? >> so i have to say it is one thing when you're standing in that situation and you kind of check two boxes and then suddenly find yourself in the minority of all minorities. so, you know, is it difficult? yes, i think it's more difficult to be taken seriously than anything else. and i think that the opportunity

that i've been given, it's so tremendous because it's not just about me, it's about also opening doors for other women, for other women of color. it's about pulling other women forward. it's about giving them a seat or opportunity when someone elsetn create a network for women. tell me a little bit about that, the pipeline fellowship it's called. >> it's great. we have three main components. education, mentoring and practice. and it just so happens that lauren has been one of our fantastic early mentors. and just to give you a sense of how much we have achieved, in april, 2011, we launch andy i was invited shortly thereafter to attend a network of -- a meeting of angel investors. the whole room, there were about 22 people. two of them were women, including myself. two of them were people of color, including myself. they were waiting to decide

whether or not to invest in a certain company. i kid you not, this is where the lbgt latina comes out, i will out myself. >> triple minority. >> yes. they kept going around the table saying either, my wife and her friends think this or my girlfriend and her friends think that. and so it was so obvious that the wisdom, knowledge and the network of the women was in the room. guess who wasn't in the room. >> just being utilized by the men. isn't that the way it always is. natalia and lauren, thank you both for being here. really appreciate it. >> thank you so much. >> powerful interview there. and that wraps up things for "the reid report." i am krystal ball in for joy reid. i will see you back here tomorrow at 2:00 p.m. eastern and be sure to visit us online at thereidreport.msnbc.com. "the cycle" is up next, guys. >> krystal, we can't wait to see you in just a few minutes. it's going to be a very busy

hour, as you know. this is the last day congress is in session before five weeks of vacation and a little craziness right now on the hill. we'll get luke russert on to tell us about what's going on. we've got ayman mohyeldin about gaza and the latest there. senator bob casey, we'll talk to him about the latest with ukraine and russia. and i'm going to rant about gay marriage and how you can still believe in god an also support same-sex marriage. >> sounds like a good show to me, guys. i'll see you over there in a minute. "the cycle" is up next. avo: waves don't care what age you are. take them on the way you always have. live healthy and take one a day men's 50+.

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good afternoon, i am abby huntsman. breaking news as we come on the air. house republicans have pulled their border bill, for now at least, hours before they are scheduled to leave for august recess. here's what the house floor looks like right now. not a lot of activity. that's because house republicans are conferencing as we speak in an emergency meeting to try to whip their members into shape. ahead of this big new development, both parties draw a line in the sand. >> republicans are committed to addressing the humanitarian crisis on the border in a responsible way. the first bill on the floor helped secure our border and speeds return of unaccompanied children back to their home countries. the president, the white house, has abandoned all pretense of governing. >> today to follow up on their tirade against the poor children, they have a bill