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it's being described by the palestinians as a massacre. as the death toll rises, what can be done to bring both sides back from the brink? >> hamas intentionally targets civilians. the israelis do everything they can to avoid targeting civilians. there's a profound difference there. israel holds itself to a very high standard. what we've seen in this northwest gaza is that it's incredibly doflt meet its very high standard. care versus risk. one ebola patient is now heading to the united states to a special isolation unit at emory university. dr. nancy snyderman is here to grow up the rising confusion and here about the deadly virus spreading here at home. >> it is safe. it is smart. it is prudent. it does not put people at risk. >> hacking the senate. the cia is caught in the act. spying an the intelligence committee's computers while the committee was investigating the cia's interrogation techniques after 9/11.
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we'll talk to one of the senators now calling for the cia director's resignation. good day. i'm andrea mitchel le iell in . a cease-fire ended less than two hours before it began. both sides blaming each other for attacks leading to an outburst of violence. israel has intensified shelling in rafa where at least 35 palestinians have been killed today. israel is now searching for one of its soldiers who they say has been captured by hamas. i'm joined by nbc's ayman mohyeldin in gaza and in tel aviv, martin fletcher. secretary kerry issued a very
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unusual statement on his way back from new delhi where he announced the cease-fire in the middle of the night. issued a statement condemning hamas for breaking the cease-fire. i know that that is not the perspective from the ground in gaza where they are seeing a lot of israeli rocket fire. >> that's correct. in fact, right now, hamas is saying that it was the israelis who violated the cease-fire. there is one point of agreement that has emerged today which is that, yes, both sides agreed that israeli troops would remain inside gaza, part of this 72-hour humanitarian cease-fire. that is a side -- that's a point both sides seem to agree on. what hamas is saying is that that agreement meant that israeli forces could not continue any operations inside the territory they've already taken. meaning they could not be destroying tunnels and they could not be expanding their territorial gains in areas where they have soldiers already on
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the ground. as a result of that, its military wing today detected israeli troop movement in rafa and that prompted them to launch this operation in which the israelis say two soldiers were killed. one was captured. obviously this is always going to be two sides to this story. the israelis are saying, no, they were within the cease-fire limits and perhap ter paramete understood by all sides and it was hamas that violated it by attacking the israeli soldiers. regardless of the two narratives, what has emerged, an ongoing rescue operation from the israeli perspective. from the palestinians, very heavy shelling in rafa that is driving the death toll up very quickly here. >> martin fletcher, we understand that secretary kerry from his plane has called officials in qatar and in turkey who have some influence over hamas to try to get the release of that soldier. you know better than anyone after covering what happened the last time an israeli soldier was kidnapped, they released 1,000 prisoners to get that soldier
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back. they place a huge value on every military member there. >> that's right. and that's likely to be the case agone. that was sergeant gilad sha leak held by hamas for five years before they swapped more than 1,000 palestinian prisoners to bring him home safely. that's the national trauma that could begin today. it isn't clear, one has to emphasize, whether this soldier is alive or dead and hamas has not confirmed they've got him. israel said he's been abducted. so still a bit of a gray area what exactly is going on. the bottom line is, yes, israel is now embarking upon an adventure which in the beginning consists of very sharp intense warfare around the area where the soldier was -- where they say he was abducted. in order to try and prevent him from being taken out of that area, whether israel would quickly lose track of him.
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so at least now they know the area where the soldier could be. that's why there is such intensive israeli gunfire in that area. leading to that loss of life among the palestinians. that's what israel says. either way, israel now faces a choice to try to resurrect the cease-fire or to launch a deeper ground invasion claiming hamas sabotaged a cease-fire and stral is left with no choice but to deepen their invasion of gaza. cease-fire or ground invasion? we've been saying that for weeks. cease-fire or ground invasion? now it's more imperative that israel decide briefly and quickly because of a soldier's life at risk. >> thanks to martin and ayman. the united nations has now been less categorical than the u.s. than secretary kerry. the u.n. secretary-general saying that he condemns in the strongest possible terms the reported violation by hamas.
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and then also called on israel to be as careful as possible in not accelerating its attacks. so the u.n. is also a partner with the united states in brokering that cease-fire which was announced in the middle of the night in asia where secretary kerry was at the time and now as we've been reporting, has already collapsed. meanwhile, our other major story today, the world health organization says the ebola outbreak in western africa is growing faster than its efforts to control it. the two sickened americans in liberia remain in serious condition but are expected to be evacuated from the region by next week. here in the u.s., atlanta's emory university hospital is preparing its isolation unit for the arrival of one ebola patient whose identity remans unknown. joining me to sort this out is dr. nancy snyderman. you have been working around the clock on this. there's a lot of conflicting information. a lot of fear and a lot of it is unnecessary. if you can clarify why, for all
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of us, we're being asked. why would we bring an ebola patient to the united states. >> let me start with the fact that ebola belongs to hemorrhagic fevers. you get infengted with a virus and if you die there's hemorrhage before death. this is related to dengue fever and other things we've had in the united states and we've always been able to put out the flame. if you look at western africa, it's like a wildfire that's out of control. and unfortunately, ebola has to be contained and put out of control -- put, really, put out and that's the way to contain it. why bring patients home? two reasons. one, these are americans. one is a doctor. one is a missionary. second thing is, they are sick. and they are in liberia where the health care system is quite poor. the real question people are asking is, are you now bringing an infection here that's never been here before? because it's a cousin of those other things and because we have such sophisticated technology,
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the patients will come here. they'll go into isolation. people with hazmat suits will take care of them. their symptoms will go away, assuming they survive and it's game over. the real lingering question is how stable are they? and will we really be able to successfully get them out of liberia? >> and get them out in time. you and i were discussing whether something was to be announced. this breaking news. this is a statement by the deputy spokesperson at the state department on behalf of the state department and the cdc. as you were anticipating in your reporting. they are confirming the medical evacuations of two u.s. citizens from west africa are being efforted. the state department and the cdc is facilitating a medical evacuation for two u.s. citizens who have been infected by ebola. these are the two patients we've been discussing. the safety and security of u.s. citizens is our paramount concern. every precaution is being taken to move the patients safely and
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securely to provide critical care en route by a noncommercial aircraft -- >> correct. >> private plane. and to mann tain strict isolation upon arrival in the united states. these evacuations will take place over the coming days. cdc protocols and equipment are used for these koond kinds of m evacuations so they are carried out safely protecting the patient and the american public as has been done with similar medical evacuations in the past. they'll be taken to medical facilities with appropriate isolation and treatment capabilities, and because of privacy considerations they will not confirm the names. we understand that's the hipa rules. and precautions in the u.s., we refer to the cdc. >> imagine a c130-type of military plane and inside it is a vinyl bubble. the patient goes in there in another bubble. every who comes into contact with that patient is wearing a hazmat suit. so the people pror teare protec.
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this is now a military operation. this patient will be transported most likely to a military base, passed off to another vehicle and go to one of these top notch facilities in total isolation from all other patients. offering no risk to the general public nor any other patients who are nearby hospitalized. this is exactly what we do with infectious illnesses. it's been done in the past safely and it will be done this time safely. >> let me just splexplain to ou viewers also. the c130s or c-17s are cargo planes. they carry the president's limousine, marine one. >> they are stripped down big old things. >> i just flew one from erbil in iraq to brussels. inside was this huge container in which the secretary of state and his staff sat and we as the troops would, sat an canvas seats, slingback seats along the side. so they move huge things. they move trucks, ambulances. >> imagine taking a standard
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operating room, a standard patient room and just saying, okay, it's not going to fit in the back of an airplane. the pilots are isolated and safe but everybody else now treats that like it's an operating room, an isolation room, an icu room in the air. that's what it's going to look like. can you transport more than one patient at a time? to be determined. i suspect this is going to be one at a time. >> now for americans who are concerned about their safety, bringing these people here, you also have at emory university, you have the people on the ground who are similarly attired and equipped and professionally trained for this. it is concerning to the uninitiated, myself included, bringing this disease into the united states. >> the whole thing is, if this is a spark from the wildfire that's burning out of control, it's a spark. it comes here, we put it out, game over. once a person has had ebola, and if they are lucky enough to survive ebola, they are no
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longer infectious. >> like the young man volunteering his blood. >> exactly. luke the young man. so if we can save these people, they have the long-term risks of arthritis and muscle weakness and pains but they are no more risk. this really takes me back, i swear to god, 20, 30 years ago when hiv/aids was running rampant. i keep thinking it's ryan white. this is time for all americans to recognize the science has to lead the way, not the rumors, not the fear. this is going to go down as one of the smart medical decisions. and we have a chance to save the lives of two americans. why wouldn't we do that? >> thank you so much. and bringing us back to the protests against this child ryan white, 20-some years ago. >> in the meantime, we have to remember africa is not out of trouble. this may be six months while ebola rages through and tens of thousands of people left in africa are going to die.
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this is not under control any time soon. >> thank you so much. >> you bet. coming up -- caught hacking. the fallout after the cia now admits it spied an the senate intelligence committee's computers. that's next right here an "andrea mitchell reports." rythi. and with the quicksilver card from capital one, you earn unlimited 1.5% cash back on everything you purchase. not just "everything at the hardware store." not "everything, until you hit your cash back limit." quicksilver can earn you unlimited 1.5% cash back on everything you could possibly imagine. say it with me -- everything. one more time, everything! and with that in mind... what's in your wallet? and with that in mind... ♪ [music] jackie's heart attack didn't come with a warning. today her doctor has her on a bayer aspirin regimen to help reduce the risk of another one. if you've had a heart attack be sure to talk to your doctor before you begin an aspirin regimen.
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there's a lot of pressure today and growing on cia director john brennan after the agency admitted it spied on senate investigators who were looking into the agency's controversial interrogation practices after 9/11. the cia categorically denied that back in march. >> the cia went into their computers and took documents out and were attempting to block their own investigation. >> the facts will come out, but let me assure you that cia in no way was spying on the ssci or
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the senate. >> a suspected cia cover-up of waterboarding and other harsh interrogation techniques during the bush years. the senate intelligence chair demanded answers. >> i have grave concerns that the cia's search may well have violated the separation of powers principles embodied in the united states constitution. >> the cia's own inspector general said she was right. five agency employees, including two attorneys, improperly accessed the computers. launching a keyword search of all and a review of some of the e-mails of democratic staff members. joining me is a member of the intelligence committee. senator, thank you for being with us. you've been very outspoken about what this means for the cia leadership. how do you feel after seeing the inspector general report which shows there was at some point a breakdown, despite the fact that brennan had denied it to me
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thaen very day the allegations were first made. >> i think that's part of the problem. there's been a tone that's been set by this director of the ends justify the means and that's when the mistakes like this happen. it's unacceptable. i think it does speak to the separation of powers. and it also just completely undermines the trust between the intelligence committee and the agency. and so i think it's time for a fresh start. >> even though john brennan has a career at the cia, has a very close relationship with the president, and has been widely praised for his past leadership in intelligence. >> well, i think the relationship between the intelligence committee and the leadership at the cia, the director in particular, has hit a new low here and that causes it to be very difficult for the agency to do the very important job that it needs to do. it also undermines public confidence in the agency.
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so i believe the time has come for director brennan to move on. >> should he reresign? >> i believe he should. >> do you think he knew about this, or was he just let down by his staff? >> i don't think it's completely clear when director brennan first learned of these activities, but i think what is clear is that he set a tone in the agency at sort of a spin up within the agency that created an atmosphere that certainly allowed for corners to be cut, for judgment not to -- for poor judgment to sort of rule the day. and then as you know, he went on your show and many others and just flatly denied what was going on. it's an unfortunate situation, and we have to make sure that what's most important here, which is really the underlying debate about the release of the
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torture and interrogation report that we make sure we set the record straight and then we re-create the confidence in this agency that it deserves. >> now that report has been declassified. it is circulating now on the hill. senator mccain's and senator mccain and graham said today there may be a minority report which disagrees with some of the overall conclusions saying that maybe there was some valuable intelligence gained from these harsh interrogation practices otherwise known as torture. what's your conclusion? you've seen the report. >> my conclusion is that torture is not just wrong but, frankly, that it doesn't work. that under those extreme circumstances, people will say absolutely anything to make it stop and oftentimes lead you down leads that cost us a lot of time and effort and take us in the wrong direction. i think it's very important to get this torture report out.
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to let the facts speak for themselves and to let the american people judge for themselves. if we do that, we can make sure we don't repeat this very negative time in our country's history. >> there was a leaked report, a draft of the report. it wasn't leaked. it was e-mailed by mistake by the white house to the associated press saying the secretary of state at the time colin powell was out of the loop at the initial stages of the decisions to do these enhanced interrogations. correct? >> well, i'll let you speak to that. certainly that is what i've seen in the press, and when the report is finally declassified, then i'll be able to discuss it at length. >> thank you so much, senator. i hope we can have that conversation once it is out. to be continued. >> i do, too. i look forward to it. >> back to our breaking news this hour. the state department and the cdc are facilitating a medical evaluation for two u.s. citizens infected with the ebola virus.
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purina cat chow complete. share your rescue story and join us in building better lives. one rescue at a time. trying to get the house in order is not an easy task. speak eer john boehner will be holding votes in the house today an immigration after a humiliating defeat yesterday causing congress to postpone its five-week summer recess. joining me for our daily fix, jeanne cummings, jonathan capehart and chuck todd, host of "msnbc's daily rundown." >> bring us up to date on what's happened so far today. last night this was the fifr test for the new house leadership absent eric cantor. >> they discovered they didn't
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have enough votes to pass their watered down bill and had to pull it. now what they've done today is added $35 million to the total. so it's a $694 million aid package for states along the border. that extra $35 million will -- the way they've structured it, would go straight to governor perry to help pay for new patrols along the border. and that seems to be enough to bring along the texas delegation and others. they also added another provision that would require the government to check the immigration status of the people who come to pick up any of the children who are there. so a few other things, they are trying to chip away and bring votes on as they can. as of right now they think they have put enough of them together to pass it. >> and, of course, we've seen so much dysfunction. chuck todd, you had an interview with bob dole who everyone knows was as partisan as the next
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person, but still managed to work with george mitchell and other leaders when they were in charge in the senate. let's play a little bit of your conversation with bob dole. >> the senate may not be broken, but it's badly bent. and this is going to take some strong leadership in both parties. i mean, you got to get things done. i mean, they blame the house republicans who have passed a lot of bills that have never seen the light of day in the senate. and so it's sort of a pox on both your houses. >> chuck todd, he's 91 years old. he's been frail. he's had terrible hospitalizations. but he's in amazing shape. what a fascinating conversation. >> first of all, he's in actually improving health. he had a couple knee replacements. one knee is not working so hot so he's still figuring that out.
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he's doing really well. he's been following this closely. he's got an agenda in the september. he's trying to get this disability treaty. i'll have a lot more of this next week. but he's trying to get this u.n. disability treaty passed. he's been talking about how hard it is and how hard it has been working with some elements of the republican party. and he was tough on both parties as you heard him there. but he was -- it was interesting. he was cautious. he doesn't have a negative word to say about either harry reid or mitch mcconnell. they've both been very good to me, nice to me. he then certainly talks about how there have got to be better ways this can be done. better ways these guys can work together. he hit his own party a little bit. they have to learn to run on something. run on something positive. don't just be out there always being against. i think he says, the message has gotten out that republicans are against the president. what are you for? what are you campaigning on? so he is just watching like the
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rest of us, but he's one of those concerned washington veterans that you hear about just shaking his head. >> and indeed, he's got a unique perspective. jonathan capehart, who benefits, if anybody, from this breakdown? now today they are going home for a recess. they call it a work period. you and i know what work periods really mean when it means to congress. five weeks in the summer when you have this immigration crisis on the border. do the democrats campaign on this saying do-nothing congress or do the average voters say, pox on both your houses as bob dole said? >> i think the average voter is just -- can i say this on air? i think the average voter is pissed off with congress. >> you can and you did. >> you did. >> throwing caution to the wind. what happened yesterday is emblematic of why the american people are so frustrated. democrats have been running
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against the dysfunction of congress. the do-nothing congress, the do-nothing house gop for months now. and as we've been reporting all week, they've been running on the possibility of impeachment and speaker boehner's lawsuit against the president over the health care law and raising tons of money and getting new donors as a result of it. and so what happened yesterday just easily plays into democrats plans. and so now they go into this five-week work period and are able to hammer the republicans, and particularly the house republicans for weeks an end. and republicans if they don't get something done today, they are already in trouble. and how they talk to their constituents back home is going to be very fascinating to watch, assuming they do town halls like they've done in summers passed. >> how does the president manage his vacation because he does want to get out of town but you have the ebola crisis. the middle east crisis. this is a terrible summer.
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>> well, it is. he's not leaving for another week. his martha's vineyard time is not for another week. i wouldn't be surprised if we hear him. look. democrats, for the first time, probably in 18 months, you see them walking with confidence. this white house seems confident again. and think about, this is august 1. on july 1, there wasn't a lot of good news that democrats had thinking about the midterm elections. president obama's competency. his job rating was going down. those are still issues democrats have to deal with. the president is still unpopular. there are still concerns about his management skill. but the republicans in a 48-hour period gave democrats something to run on. and you see a pep in the democratic party step that we haven't seen since the 2012 election. >> the luckiest men of all, maybe eric cantor. >> i'm sure he's saying, it's not my mess anymore. >> exactly. >> see you guys later.
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coming up next -- strong words from secretary kerry today about the breakdown of the cease-fire between israel and hamas. we'll be hearing from martin indyk. and the palestine center's yousef. think the tree we carved our names in is still here? probably dead... how much fun is this? what? what a beautiful sunset... if you like sunsets. whether you're sweet or salty... you'll love nature valley sweet and salty bars. this is kathleen. setting up the perfect wedding day begins with arthritis pain and two pills. afternoon arrives and feeling good, but her knee pain returns... that's two more pills. the evening's event brings laughter, joy, and more pain... when jamie says... what's that like six pills today? yeah...
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the u.n. weighed in saying that he also condemns the reported failure and the hamas actions today. how do we get this back on track? >> well, i think it's important as you stressed that it is reported. as we've seen so far, both the united nations statement and as far as we know, secretary kerry's statement as well is relying unilaterally on an israeli claim that i don't -- i have not seen yet anyone independently corroborate. of course, those in hamas have a different perspective on what happened here. they say this happened before in fact, the cease-fire took place. it was the israelis that violated the cease-fire. i think what this really underscores is that these kind of cease-fire agreements in which the israelis are still operating on these tunnels are really precarious, not really going to be stable. and with an absence of any sort of independent monitoring and accountability for the actions of the parties, this is probably
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not going to hold. if you have the israelis going down into a tunnel and in the process of going down there, they see, you know, palestinian militants, what exactly do we expect to happen? so i think this idea of a cease-fire while the israelis continue to operate against these tunnels is really not going to be durable in any way. we need an end to all military action from both parties. we need it to be monitored. and we need the parties to be held accountable for violations. >> the monitoring was supposed to be agreed to during talks in cairo. now those talks are canceled. how do we get back to square one? >> again, the international community has to redouble their efforts to bring these parties to the table to have a serious conversation about not just the cease-fire but ending the continues that palestinians are dealing with in the gaza strip so that you don't have these conditions that continue to lead
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to these violent episodes. but as we've seen in the past, there is always going to be challenges in the early hours of cease-fires. and it takes very strong commitment by players in the international community to push both of the parties to, you know, obviously, hold fire to keep something moving in the right direction. i think the biggest challenge, though, is you have this huge imbalance of power between the parties. and if the palestinians violate a cease-fire agreement, for example, the israelis can hold them accountable. whereas in the opposite direction, if the israelis violate the cease-fire, the palestinians are really not able to hold them akoccountaccountab. so some larger player has to hold israel responsible for cease-fire violations, for anything to be durable in the long term and to have any serious conversation about ending the siege of the gaza strip. >> thank you, yousef. joining us now, martin indyk who just returned to the brookings institute as serving as special envoy for the
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israeli-palestinian negotiations. martin, thank you very much. no one knows these players better than you. how do we get this back on track? was a cease-fire in place so israel was empowered to stay in the tunnels. that was the agreement. qatar and turkey are being appealed to to try to influence hamas to get become off the -- stop firing, basically, and get back into the negotiating stage. >> well, andrea, i think we're at a critical moment here where kind of crossroads. and everything has to be done immediately to try to get the cease-fire re-established and to get hamas to release the israeli officer that they have captured. apparently after the cease-fire in an operation that killed some israeli soldiers, as well. and i think that the egyptians,
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as well as the qataris and the turks will need to press hamas very hard now, immediately, to try to get that to happen in order to pull back from the brink because i'm really worried at this point that the breakdown of this cease-fire, which was different than the earlier cease-fires in terms of the package deal that had been put together, that hamas had accepted, that included hamas and fatah, palestinian authority negotiators going to egypt immediately to discuss the agenda for transforming the situation in gaza, that all of that could be lost now. and israel could take much harsher action against hamas in response for what's happened in the last 12 hours. and then we're in a very different situation. the situation in the west bank
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today is like a tinderbox. the anger there is at a very high level. the potential for an explosion there is very real. especially if israel takes harsher action to respond to what hamas has done now. so that's why i say we're at a crossroads. a very dangerous crossroads where i think it's really important to whatever is possible to salvage this cease-fire. >> martin, there's been strong support for prime minister netanyahu and the security council in israel. 87%, 90%. but the editorial in the economist today says that europe, the rest of the world, is debating. and questioning israel's actions because perhaps of the way this has been so visible to everyone. social media showing the asymmetries of power. and that americans are debating it as well. american jews are debating it. what is your take on this? >> well, i think that's true.
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we've seen it many times before. in this situation where israel, in order to protect its civilian population from attacks, from these rockets and also the threat from the -- now is killing palestinian civilians in large numbers because hamas hides amongst the civilian population. and as a consequence, it suffers international condemnation that grows as long as the conflict goes on and will grow even more intense, i'm afraid, if as a result of what hamas has now done israel feels it's necessary to push further into gaza. and that may, in fact, be their tactic to isolate them further and cause further strain not just with europe but with the united states as you point out. so prime minister netanyahu is in a very tough dilemma today.
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i think he's wanted this cease-fire. but now he's under a lot of pressure from the israeli public. i mean, 87% is a very high poll number for israelis to agree on. anything is a miracle. 87% of them want him to take tougher actions now. and on the other hand, he's got to try to act wisely in this situation knowing the consequences. not just in terms of israeli casualties, plan casualties but also israel's standing in the world. it's a very tough dilemma. that's why i say the most important thing at this point is to try to get hamas to give up the officer, the israeli officer, return to the cease-fire, get those talks going, and for everybody concerned, particularly the palestinians in gaza who will be the ones who suffer most, if we pass this point and the fighting intensifies. for them, above all, we need the
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cease-fire to be established. >> martin indyk, thank you so much. you tried so hard to prevent this from happening. thanks, martin. >> thank you, andrea. and coming up -- spy games. but this isn't an episode of "homeland." we'll take you inside the real life nuclear arms sting code named "operation shakespeare" next on "andrea mitchell reports." it's surprising what your mouth goes through in a day. but what's even more surprising is that brushing alone isn't enough to keep it clean. fortunately, you've got listerine®. unlike brushing which misses 75% of your mouth, listerine® cleans virtually your entire mouth. so what are you waiting for? it's time to take your mouth to a whole new level of health. listerine®...power to your mouth™. also try listerine® pocketpaks.
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discussed nuclear materials. >> now the nuclear issues, you said a couple of years ago that you were looking for radioactive something or other? are you interested in what they are calling proliferation equipments? are you looking for nuclear weapons making or just nuclear power making or everything? >> everything. >> everything. i am a dealer as you a seller. i can do anything. >> it's documented in a new book. "operation shakespeare: the true story of an international sting." i'm joined by the author john shiffman. i love this so much, i endorsed it. i blurbed the book myself. congratulations. take us back to this iranian arms dealer and how long was
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this going an and how decide the u.s. get on to it? >> thanks. when we think about homeland security we usually think about homeland security and the tsa. we don't think about them going undercover in places like bangk bangkok, london, frankfurt. they lured this prolific yet very representative arms broker who was working for the iranian government. he was ordering tiny microchips, radar, all sorts of sonar radar and he was having it shipped secretly from american manufacturers back to iran so iran could use it perhaps against u.s. forces. >> did the american manufacturers know what they were doing? >> in some cases the american manufacturers do know and several very big household names have been fined excessively for the work. itt corporation, utc, other
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companies. but generally smaller companies that really don't know what's going on and some of the material is shipped. the iranians pretend to be in dubai, pretend to be in singapore. it's also the russians and the chinese and pakistanis. we're also trying to use american military technology against u.s. forces and against our allies. >> let's talk about the microchip. you have an example of it. because this is the kind of technology, it's very, very small. it's perhaps, what, $1,000 a piece but these are used in warheads. these are used to target american troops. >> this -- right. most of the technology we're talking about is smaller than a finger nail. this particular microchip is from "operation shakespeare" that the iranians were trying to acquire. if you string enough of these microchips together it can target multiple airplanes in the sky. and it's important to keep these, you know, controlled and
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in the right hands. we can see even in recent history what can happen when sophisticated technology like this military technology gets in the wrong hands. >> tell me about lieutenant seth dorgan who was working an this. >> i open the book with a story of him. it's not just about american technology and infrastructure but it's also a very personal issue. the reason these homeland security agents work overseas undercover is to protect troops like lieutenant seth devorn. he was killed in february 2004 by a remote control ied bomb. and they also found later, they found unexploded ied parts in afghanistan and iraq nearby and these were later traced to american manufacturers. the triggers were, in remote control triggers in arizona and minnesota. so this is an example of, unfortunately, how if we don't control this technology it can get overseas and come back to haunt us in the worst ways.
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>> well, the book is really extraordinary. john, thank you very much. "operation shakespeare" is an amazing story and goes on today. thanks for being with us. >> thanks for having me. appreciate it. coming up here, an update on the two american ebola patients heading to the u.s. for treatment. that's here next. the ca♪illac summer collection is here. ♪ during the cadillac summer's best event, lease this 2014 ats for around $299 a month and make this the summer of style.
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that president obama has organized, and unfortunately because of ebola, sierra leone and liberia will not be able to attend. >> absolutely. of the more than 700 people who have died as a result of the outbreak, most of them are from guinea and that president also is reconsidering whether to come. the three-day event, which is sponsored by the u.s. commerce department and bloomberg philanthropy is focusing on economic issues. however, they have added a panel discussion on the ebola outbreak in which hhs and the cdc will all be there. so it's a coincidence, but a lot of smart people can get together with the relevant countries that are coping with this and probably have a pretty good discussion. >> they are going to hear fromo. this is a big deal. that does it for us for this edition of "andrea mitchell
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