untaxed cigarettes on staten island. cell phone video ignited a public outcry and friday new york city's chief medical examiner ruled garner's death was a homicide resulting from the compression of his neck, the chokehold, a compression of his chest applied by the officers. garner's asthma, obesity and hypertension were also said to be contributing factors in his death. live now to events under way in harlem. >> homicide. you all know what that means. now, so this is not about the family overreacting. this is not about civil rights activists polarizing. this is about an illegal chokehold that caused the death. let's start to deal with the facts. [ applause ] now, the fact that there was an

illegal chokehold, the fact that there was -- that it was the cause of death and the medical examiner says, therefore, homicide. that, in and of itself, is probable cause for an arrest. [ applause ] the district attorney needs to even say i'm going to move forward and arrest or i'm going to defer to the federal government, but you cannot have the facts and not address the facts. that's where we are. then you go on if the federal government takes it or the prosecutor does to a grand jury. but all we are interested in is justice. don't do us no favors, but don't do us any way different than

anyone else that probable cause has been established. [ applause ] now there are two issues here. i want to be real clear. there's the criminal justice issue, justice for eric garner. justice for eric garner's family, friends, loved ones, and then there's the issue of policing to make sure this doesn't happen again. what the media is trying to do is run one past the other. i want to be real clear. we had a meeting the other day at city hall, charles there, cynthia davis joined the clergy from staten island, with the mayor and the police chief.

>> you are listen iing to the national action network president, msnbc's al sharpton. here at my table dean, a columnist at the daily beast, janel bo with bowie, associate r of political science and international public affairs at columbia university and sima ire, criminal defense attorney here in new york city. thank you all for joining me. this is obviously a critical moment. the i want to start with you, seema. tell me what it means for this investigation going forward in a very narrow legal sense, what a finding by the medical examiner of homicide means. >> it means that now the district attorney's office can file charges against the police officers for homicide. but what it really means, the sad reality is that it's going

to be presented to a grand swrir. the fact the grand jury may or may not indict, that depends on the status of staten island. as many of you know, staten island is largely white. and they have done this before. perhaps you remember majerle graham in the bronx where they presented to a grand jury and the grand jury doesn't indict. i know staten island well. i practice in staten island. i have a strong suspicion this case will be dismissed by the grand jury. also, because these ems workers, officers, will testify in front of the grand jury and they may display some type of empathy, they may get that from the grand jurors. >> let me ask, if that were to happen, and we don't know if that will happen this evidence presented to a grand jury, the grand jury of staten island decides not to indict, what we heard from reverend sharpton was the possibility of federal intervention, that someone might be able to say if that does, in fact, happen, this man, mr.

garner, the late mr. garner's civil rights were violated. >> absolutely. there are federal civil charges. there are federal cripplial charges and state civil charges. there are many avenues for the family to find closure, frankly, for this. >> i want to come out for a minute from the kind of narrow legal case. and i want to turn to you on part of what we heard reverend sharpton say there were two different issues. justice for the families, the friends, the immediate community of the late mr. garner. and then there's a question of a larger justice around policing, ensuring this doesn't happen again was the language he used. i want to point to the fact not the only might it happen again but we are already seeing in the news he in new york a parent chokehold of a pregnant after i african-american woman whose apparent crime seemed to be grilling illegally on her front

stoop. we have seen the video come out of the young man being stomped, apparently, in the head by an arresting officer, mr. coffey. what is your sense of optimism about both the narrow sense of justice and the larger sense of policing justice? >> i think i have more optimism about the narrow sense of justice. i think the broader issue -- look, mayor de blasio ran on a progressive platform and we've seen stop and choke and stop and kill. i think we are ratcheting up very quickly with the ubiquity of videos to a moment we saw in 1991 in l.a. where communities had enough with rodney king. now, as we said, we've had two others. you'd better believe there are more to come. the mayor may have a serious ib you around disorder and uprising

coming up in terms of new york city policing on his hands if he doesn't do something decisively. in terms of commissioner bratton, he is the implementer. he is the chief implementer of a theory called broken windows. you go after low level crimes, loitering, marijuana possession. the theory is that it leads to more serious crimes. and this is still, after 20 years in practice, 30 years since the theory has been out, this is a netheory in search of evidence still. >> jamell, we heard from dorian that mayor de blasio ran on a platform of stop and frisk. a little bit of what was probably the turning point campaign commercial for mayor de blasio of his own son talking with about the fact that de blasio was, at this point candidate de blasio, specifically different on this question of policing. >> i want to tell you a little bit about bill de blasio.

he's the only democrat with the guts to really break from the bloomberg years and the only one who will will end a stop and frisk era that unfairly targets people of color. >> and so here we have the mayor's son saying he's the one who will stop it. i want to also play for us what reverend sharpton said to mr. de blasio about his own sob, about dante. i want to take a listen to that as well. >> people feel that you are not just another politician, but that you're the transformational mayor they look to be. the fact of the matter here is given the data that we are seeing in terms of these broken window kind of operations, it's disproportionate in the black and latino community. if dante wasn't your son, he'd be a candidate for a chokehold. >> that is pretty hard to hear. >> but it's actually true. the thing about policing that gives a lot of did discretion

and it gives a tremendous amount of discretion to individual officers. it is going to mix with ideas about criminality and who you should be paying attention to. it's almost sort of inevitable if you're going to approach policing, knock out the minor offenses first, that officers, even if they're not, you know, explicitly targeting subconsciously, well, that guy looks more suspicious, that woman grilling seems is like a bigger problem than that kid, he may not be latino, may be doing something. even with everyone having the best of intentions, you're going to have an outcome that is heavily racially disproportionate and we sort of know not everyone has the best intentions here so that makes it even worse. >> i think that's so useful because if we look at jameel coffey apparently stomped by a police officer, it's really

important to note that police officer was an african police officer. what you'll hear in response it cannot the be racialized if, in fact, both the assailants and the victim were black. but it has to do with who is deemed dangerous, right? black bodies, brown bodies, m s muslim bodies, presumed muslim bodies that are actually sick bodies. >> absolutely right. i saw a picture that to me brought it home, a young kid of color holding the it t-shirt with all the people killed by the nypd over the years, shaun bell, bumpers, and then it had handwritten in the name of eric garner. so this young kid grows up in a community ep sees the police as not an ally, a frowned, someone who will kill him, to be on honest. they need a relationship with the community. the muslim community, it made no

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[ roars ] we're continuing to follow events live in harlem at the national action network and we're wait iing for the relativ of the late eric garner to speak. mr. garner died after being put in a chokehold by new york police officers. the family will speak today about the medical examiner's report that determined garner's death was a homicide. this is mr. garner's mother.

let's take a listen. >> giving honor to god, who is the head of my life, to family, friends, and of course my newfound family. it gives me great pleasure to be here again at the national action network with reverend al sharpton who has been awesome since this whole thing started. this whole ordeal, he's just been just there for us every step of the way. i don't care what nobody says about him, he's all right with me. he's all right. [ applause ] and we also want to give thanks to the religious leaders, bishop evans, who is part of my family, bishop brown, reverend brown,

reverend -- excuse me. reverend daughtry and. >> we will continue -- this is mrs. carr. this is the late eric garner's mother. we will come back to her and to other family members in a moment. we'll continue to monitor it for you. as you imagine, this is obviously a very emotional and difficult time for the family. we'll come back to that. while the family is preparing their statement, i do want to look at a statement by mayor de blasio, sort of playing on what you're just saying, dean. de blasio's statement, the mayor's statement said we all have a responsibility to heal the wounds from decades of mistrust and create a culture where the police department and communities respect each other and that's a responsibility commissioner brown and i take seriously. we make a change and will. as mayor i remain committed to ensuring that this won't happen again. but, honestly, that notion of,

oh, this is a both sides issue, no. one side is empowered with the power of the state and has acted illegally and caused the death of the other side. this isn't a two-sided issue. >> i was just going to give dean credit where credit is due. dean keeps point iing 0 out to that if it wasn't for the video we wouldn't be here talking about this. and i can tell you that every week i have a client that's going to the civilian complaint review board to make complaints to the police department for excessive force. i have clients who have been strip searched in broad daylight in front of their entire community, but no video, and even bringing that to a jury, a jury doesn't believe it. why? it's not a jury of their peers. >> let's hold on for a second. i 0 to want to go back to the national action headquarters here in harlem, the mother of eric garner is speaking.

>> give his mother a big hand. let's stand and greet her as she comes. >> good morning, everybody. first of all, i want to thank the god above for giving us justice for my husband so that we can move forward and get this cop done with. that's it. i want to thank the national action net work for standing behind me and keeping me strong through this tedious process. it's been really hard. i've been trying to be strong, but it's really hard. i met with the prosecutors and i feel like i did the right thing by doing that, and i just want

them to do the right thing and get me justice for my husband. and thank you. thank you. that's all i'm going to say. thank you. >> give her a hand. >> that is the widow of eric garner speaking there. i apologize, earlier i identified the mother of eric garner as the mother of mr. bratton. that was a mistake. i apologize for that. so we heard just in that moment that his which hidow was beginn think there was some possibility for justice as a result of what the medical examiner found. again, though, let me ask, you know, when we see a family like this this thrust into the role of social justice advocates, of people speaking on television on a weekend morning, this was just a family kind of doing their -- experiencing their lives and suddenly they're in had this position. what can we expect in terms of the kind of spotlight that is likely to occur on this family? i'm just in this moment thinking about eneesha mcbride, trayvon

martin. on the one hand i'm watching this family and their grace under this pressure but i'm thinking what may be coming in subsequent months might be very painful. >> my hope is no national politician speaks about this case because part of the problem with trayvon martin, as soon as president obama said anything, it became politicized like that. and all of a sudden you had conservatives taking the side of george zimmerman because they saw this not so much as a justice issue. not all conservatives but many didn't see this as a justice issue but president obama is terrible. >> don't we want him to speak? i hear you saying we don't want him to speak because of the backlash. on the other hand don't we also, however, want our national elected officials to say this is unacceptable in this moment? >> this is the tragedy of the current moment. this is the time where it would be great tore president obama and other national leaders to say we have a problem in this country with overpolicing.

we have a problem with particular communities being singled out for tremendous violence against them. but to say that is really to risk political backlash. it is to risk the kind of examination of that. if obama were to speak tomorrow morning about this, i would expect fox news to have a report the about how -- >> right. and not to sing is l out fox news but we have seen the ways in which a racial moment becomes racialized and politicized. whether he speaks or not, again, watching what's happening around the mcbride trial and the way the victim is often put on trial and the victim's family. seema iyer, i want to talk to you how that chokehold becomes illegal and why that becomes an issue. everyone else will stay with us and will be with us later on the program. right now when we come back from our break, we'll talk about the border crisis and the debate that kept congress working late into the night. business, with startup ny.

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was noticeably annoyed. house republicans as we speak are trying to pass the most extreme and unworkable versions of a bill they already know is going nowhere. they can't pass the senate and if it were i would beat them. they know it. >> it would grant additional resources to the national guard to address the border crisis and seek to curb president obama's executive powers when it comes to deferred action. that's the executive authority to deport some of the undocumented. so congress, now on break, leaves a continuing crisis without the necessary funding to it adequately care for thousands of chirp saying their budgets will be exhausted before of congress returns in september. even if enacted it would be t temporary. we missed the root causes why this crisis even exists. in 1986 president reagan passed

a sweeping reform bill. while the bill create add pathway to citizenship it focused on enforce. it increased focus on enforcement in had a number of unforeseen consequences in the years that followed. the smuggling price increased from $700 to $7,500. migrant workers who might stay for a season or a few years and return stay longer to pay off the debt. as one of my guests explained the reason why migrant workers come here to begin with has its roots in the central american free trade agreement. cafta has meant big business to agri-business to the tune of $20 billion a year but has devastated economies and the

likelihood of family farmers. he argues policies are part of the mix. hector perla, assistant professor of latin american and latino studies at the university of of california santa cruz, jamelle bouie, tomas, a field investigator of a network of researchers in international affairs, and elena toss, clinical law and co-director of the criminal rights clinic at new york school of law. i want to start with you first on the legislative stuff. based on what we saw coming out of the u.s. house of representatives, sort of increased focus, again, on enforcement and border control, seeing this as an immigration and law and order, that would

likely impact the rye sis we're currently seeing? >> no, what has come out of the house of representatives, if it ever were to become law would make the situation worse. these are two different bills aimed at two different problems, a humanitarian crisis where we have children presenting themselves for help. what happens to the many undocumented people here in the united states who want to be on the path to citizenship and rather than coming up with a solution to either l problem they have cracked language that would make the situation worse with the kids in this humanitarian crisis they want to create a fast track deportation system to send them back to harm's way and with those chirp who have been here in the u.s. for many years, american in every way except on paper, they want them to be deported before we have immigration reform. they are forcing the president to use his executive authority

to come up with a solution. >> on that, i appreciate the framing, there's a crisis -- a humanitarian crisis around children who are present iing themselves to border patrol. they are trying to come as a humanitarian question. hector, your writing on this crisis has been extremely influential on my thinking about it. american policy and the way it impacts the crisis, ted cruz speaking about the american policy he believes is contributing to the crisis. the direct cause of it is amnesty. they are coming because they believe they will get president obama's amnesty and if we want to solve the problem the only way to do it is to eliminate the promise. >> is that the reason this is recan kurg?

>> he gets it exactly wrong. it is a man made disaster, a man made crisis. it's a human rights crisis. but he's looking at the wrong policies. we know it's not because the spike began in the fall of 20 11 before daka was passed and many of the kids don't know it's happening. we as a nation need to look in the mirror and that is we have a huge responsibility in this crisis and it's our foreign policies, most recently cafta but we can go back further with the liberal policies, the washington consensus that we pushed on central mek immediately following the civil wars there. we can go back to the civil wars and how we militarize the rebe john for -- and the dictatorsships and death squads throughout the 1980s. so our economic policy has been one that, you know, these

countries that were just coming out of war all after sudden we open them up to. these multinationals come in and displace people from their traditional lively hoods. outright hostility to leftist governments, like in el salvador and the central american initiative which is a militarized form of policing in the region that's draconian. it's tragic that you were talking about the eastern garner situation. but that's the kind of policing model implemented here and over there as well in draconian fashion. >> this strikes me at some point. maybe those of us old enough to

remember the situations in el salvador and nicaragua may have some familiarity with but other folks it may have begun to get tim. to honduras for a moment and help the viewers understand what it is that's going on talking about this policing, aggressive policing, the relationship of u.s. economic interest there. what does that look like on a daily basis if you are a 10-year-old living in honduras? >> well, it depends on where you live. honduras is undergoing the process of urbanization. so a lot of people are leaving the fields because it's simply put not a way to make money anymore and they go into the cities and you create these informal cities that keep on expanding, expanding. these cities are outside of any state control or state anything. you have these vacuums of authority or elicitness and whoever takes control of that and can exploit it tends to be the big, bad man with the gun.

in this case gangs, organized crime or affiliated gangs. for a 10-year-old it comes down to -- and these families -- we're on the fourth or fifth generation of migration. these kids are born of the nuclear families beyond destroyed at this point. a 10-year-old could be raised by the neighbor because the father left or was killed, a myriad of republics. the mother, the same thing. mothers are leaving their kids to be raised by neighbors. the gangs notice this the they see a potential recruit. a potential -- someone who can do a little gig for them here every so often. and that's when had the kid is faced with the choice, the inhumane choice of either you play ball, become a criminal, or you will suffer the consequences of. >> and once a 10-year-old is facing that kind of decision, we're in a circumstance that

ought to create a human rights international law amnesty situation, is that right? >> yes, there are laws on the books here in the united states that are aimed at protecting children who have a well-founded fear of persecution or abandoned, abused or neglected in their home countries. those laws are in place. they were passed with bipartisan support because we, as a country, believe we should protect these countries. if those children come here they should be given every opportunity to seek a process so that they can show that they fit those categories and we should be protecting them. >> jamelle, i will ask you about the process looks like for young people in this country who are trying -- or young people who are on the border of this country on either side and the ways it's not just a little test but also this law enforcement test that at times means lives are caught in the crossfire. honey, look i got one to land.

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on tuesday the mother of rodriguez filed a federal civil lawsuit against the u.s. border patrol to find out who killed her son in october 2012. jose was shot ten times through border fence but unknown agents as he walked home after playing basketball in the border town in new mexico. according to his mom, the reason she is bringing this lawsuit is, quote, the u.s. border control agents who killed my son in a senseless act of violence are still out there and they need to be brought to justice. the u.s. government has not held the agent who shot my son accountable and that is why i am bringing this lawsuit. according to an investigation by fusion since 2012 559 pregnant women were at the tand in six immigration and customs enforcement facilities, despite a 2010 policy change that says absent extraordinary circumstances or the requirements of mandatory

detention, field officers should not expend detention resources on aliens known to be suffering from serious mental or physical ill nezs, pregnant or nursing. despite that change at least 14 women have suffered miscarriages while in detention since 2012. jamelle, part of the reason i wanted to highlight the shooting by the border patrol and what could be a violation around pregnant women is what we've been talking about earlier in the hour with mr. garner. the death of mr. fwarn egarner of the presumption of his criminality, the chokehold right on the steps of the new york -- here in new york city, and it feels like in both cases there is a u.s. policy of almost violent policing towards bodies we presume to be criminal or illegal in some way. >> right. we have a long-standing idea, a

culture in this country that immigrants from mexico, immigrants from central america are somehow foreign to this country. it doesn't matter how long they've been here. it doesn't the matter -- >> this country used to be that country. >> we view them as foreign and suspect. that just carries on, again, regardless of people's intentions, almost. deep-seated that it carries on in our policy as we push border security and it doesn't help that we also have this draconian security as well to encourage that view of these imfwranmigrao take center stage. our policing choices, ideas about the inherent foreignness and suspect of immigrants from below the border also informs our approach 0 to security. >> i want to listen to

representative bachmann saying how she would like to address the president on this question and then i want to listen to john lewis who talks about, i think, exactly this kind of solidarity. let's list en to both of those. >> what harry reid has the opportunity to do is to come back and join us. we'll be here anytime, any day, anywhere, anyhow. we will join him here in august, september, whenever, and he needs to put the other handcuff on this lawless president's hands so that we can restrain this president from granting amnesty. >> there is no such thing as an illegal human being. history will not be kind to us if we fail to do what is right, what is just. we must pass comprehensive immigration reform and we must pass it now. >> we hear from michele bachmann the language of handcuffing the president which, again, in this moment feels like, come on. and then we hear a civil rights

leader saying there is no such thing as an illegal human being. i can hear both of their experiences informing how they see this moment. >> absolutely. it's completely -- you see the line drawn visibly in the sand. the president has a chance to do the right thing here. and really stop caving in on border security. a lot of the stuff that's being asked to do, the border security stuff, as you mentioned earlier, the kids are not getting through. they're coming and turning themselves in. pumping more money into more border enforce lt, more draconian enforcement makes no sense. it's not going to solve the problem. >> and as we think about that then, what does begin to solve the problem? we've talked on this show about the need for these children not to be fast tracked to deportation but instead to have interpreters, to have attorneys. given that congress has gone on vacation, do you have any optimism about the likelihood

we'll get some of those resources that could make a difference? >> resources is going to be tough for the president, but the president can put into place protections for these children to do what he can to make sure they have access to attorneys, that there are resources available for these children to go through the process and actually have a chance to explain their stories to immigration judges. i work with children who face this situation, and they're incredibly traumatized by what they've gone through. it takes time and resources to figure out what's wrong and if they quaul if i for relief. many do and the majority of americans agree they should have the chance for that due process. >> after the break, i want to get into what is being seen more and more as the root cause. l he? probably dead... how much fun is this? what? what a beautiful sunset... if you like sunsets. whether you're sweet or salty... you'll love nature valley sweet and salty bars.

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per capita murder rate. this violence and crime fueled by gangs and drug trafficking are only part of the complicated tangle of factors leading to the displacement of so many hondurans. the according to juan hernandez, u.s. drug policy is to blame for the migration surge. speaking to the mexican newspaper, hernandez said, honduras has been living in emergency for a decade. the root cause is united states and colombia carried out big operations in the fight against drugs. and then new mexico did it. this is creating a serious problem for us but spakd in migration. so what happens we change the language to displacement rather than migration or immigration and if we see u.s. drug policy as the root cause of it? does that change what this discussion looks like politically? >> i think it would be correct, for start eers. people are only coming to the

u.s. it's like one pathway, people are being displaced within cities, within neighborhoods, states, within the country. people who live, say, in the coastal area get pushed away from the violence and move to the city. they come under threat there. move with family members in nicaragua, belize, or safer countries. other people just straight go into the united states. so there is displacement similar to what has happened in any country that's been undergoing the civil war. i wouldn't consider what's going on in a civil war but there is high degree intensity of internal violence that leads to displacement. >> one of the things that has seeped through, every line of cocaine you do here in a snok party is having this impact on a hohn dnduran child and that doe be a framework but a limited one for understanding how our drug

policy and appetite influence and impacts these countries. >> that's one phase of it, one aspect of it. the other aspect is the d draconian militarized policing, the war on drugs create add war in sevcentral america. there is a drug war in the region and all of those countries that have followed that are the ones experiencing the highest levels of violence, honduras 90 homicides per 100,000. in el salvador and guatemala we are almost as high. nicaragua who hasn't followed that policy is very different. they have a more community orient oriented 0 policing geared 0 to prevention instead of the heavy hand or the super heavy hand they have developed. >> they have a model policing that looks not unlike the richmond, california, model we highlighted on the show of identifying at-risk youth engaging them in kind of

alternative and legitimate activities and, of course, we, meaning the u.s., are also not there because of our -- because of what happened in the '80s. we're are also not messing around and tinkering around the in that kcountry. >> and ideologically, for instance the millennium challenge corporation pulled the funding from nicaragua. nicaragua no longer receives challenge money which is millions of dollars. el salvador right now actually -- and this is really, you know, alsalvador's changing path after 2009 has begun to go away from the heavy handed policies and you see the impact it's starting to have, the increase in children from el salvador hasn't nearly been as much and has been the largest of the senders. they are the third largest latino community in the united states. obama has a chance with that as

well. instead of playing politics and trying to leverage and look tough on, you know, the left in latin and central america, the domestic audience, he has a chance to pass the funding is already there. the millenniumcalening money is there. he has a chance to get it. that could go to economic development programs and stop all these kids dying. they're not funding it. >> jamelle, we have ten second but i have to ask you this as a yes or no question. wasn't this an opportunity for republicans, not just for the president, but for republicans to demonstrate a kind of compassion towards one group of potential migrants, displaced refugee children that wf allowed them more space to be even harder line on immigration? and why in the world didn't they do that? in ten seconds. >> yes, and i don't think he did it because this is driven less by policy than a primal opposition to this sort of migration. like a fear that they're losing their country. >> to those migrants from the

southern border in particular. thank you to hector, jamelle, to tomas, and to elena. thank you for your work. coming up next, we'll go live to the middle east for the latest on the fighting still under way between israel and hamas. we'll learn this morning that one of the american ebola patients is on the way to the united states right now. so we're going to take a look at why there is still no vaccine for this deadly virus. it's a matter of medicine and money. business, with startup ny. we've created tax free zones throughout the state. and startup ny companies will be investing hundreds of millions of dollars in jobs and infrastructure. thanks to startup ny, businesses can operate tax free for 10 years. no property tax. no business tax. and no sales tax. which means more growth for your business, and more jobs. it's not just business as usual. see how new york can help your business grow, at startup.ny.gov

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denies they are hold the sold r soldier. at least 50 more palestinians have been killed bringing the death toll to 1,650. mostly civilians including at least 286 children. 66 israelis, mostly soldiers, have also been killed in the fighting since the war again. more than 9,000 palestinians wounded, an estimated 460,000 displaced. the numbers tell a tragic and horrific story but it is the images that are the most powerful, the four palestinian boys killed while playing on a beach, captured in an incredible photo by "new york times" photographer tyler hicks. families finding their homes turned to rubble, injured children carried to the hospital in the arms of adults. these images hit us hard. they've always hit us hard, as far back as we have had images of war. the civil war was the first to

be extensively photographed. the scars on one man's back piled on top of one another became a rallying point in the north. others showed bodies lying on the battlefield. in vietnam it was not only the video of war that we saw for the first time live and in our living rooms but the still images that helped turn the tide of public opinion against the war. an execution of a vietcong officer, a young girl, her clothes burned off in a napalm attack. images broadcast after the battle of mogadishu in 1993 when two blackhawk helicopters were shot down and 18 americans killed showed somalis dragging the body of an american soldier through the streets. the images made the country wary of intervening for years, images of children killed helped push us to the brink of war but led to a successful international

effort to secure chemical weapons and the images from gaza compel us not to look away. they are an essential part of the conflict being waged for public support around the world. look at how israeli officials respond to questions about the high civilian death toll. they accuse hamas of hiding among civilians for the express purpose of creating these images of dead and wounded civilians to inspire the international community to put pressure on israel to meet hamas' demands. as israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu said of hamas last week on cnn, they want to pile up as many civilian dead as they can. they use telegenically dead for their cause. can it really change what is happening on the ground? i want to bring in nbc news correspondent martin fletcher live in tel aviv. martin, we're talking about the images of war this morning and

i'm curious to know if the israeli population is seeing everything we're seeing here out of gaza and, if so, are the images impacting public opinion at all? >> reporter: well, i think it's a great question, your description of the power of images through war to affect public opinion is really -- it's a really powerful concept and the cause is very true. i think here in israel the quick answer, the short answer is, no, israelis do not see as much of the carnage and horrific pictures we see around the world, not the so much is shown on israeli television. but there is enough shoeb for almost everybody we speak to here when we talk about the war and what israel should do next. it's horrible what's happening in gaza. we feel so awful about the people being killed there. israelis always say that. then they go on to say, however, we have to finish this war. bear in mind that with about 90% of israelis believe that israel and the government and the army is doing the right thing in fighting hamas in gaza.

but to speak about the war images in israel, it's important to point out that the role of war photographers, and i used to be one, was -- has been to bring images of wars that are usually distant into the living rooms, into the homes of people who otherwise be wouldn't really know what's going on and say to them basically this is horrific. we should stop it. that's the role of the war photographer in most cases. the difference is in israel, israel has fought ten wars and had violent uprisings, ten of them. the war against hezbollah in lebanon, three wars and now five years against hamas. all of those wars in israel are fought at home. it's not a matter of photographers bringing pictures from distant places and saying isn't this tesh? israelis know it's terrible. they fought all those wars at home. this is one of the very few countries that has conscription where every boy and girl in

theory goes into the army, becomes a soldier. what unites israelis is the knowledge when their children are 18 years old, they will go in the army and the war, on average, every six years means almost every parent in israel fears that knock on the door at night, that little group that says, your son, your daughter has been killed. war is very real. they don't need photographs to see it. they are passionate about their own defense. they're upset about what's happening in gaza and their response to it in general is we hate it but it's our reality. we'd like it to finish quickly but we need to end the fighting with hamas, end the threat from hamas that hamas poses to us at home in israel. and photography plays a very important role. by the way, there have been very important photographs in israel that have changed things. the cbs, the first intefadeh, filmed israeli soldiers beating those palestinians, break bones, and that horrified israel and those soldiers were arrested and are prosecuted by the israeli

army. photographs do play an important role here but not the role of telling people what's going on. they know what's going on and it's very sad because they've fought so wars. >> martin fletcher in tel aviv, thank you. it's useful that reminder about conscription and the ways in which conscription changes the notion of who soldiers are and them being remote and the li likelihood of them. i want to bring in my panel in new york, a columnist at "the daily beast "laura wechsler at yale university, and director of the photographic memory workshop. also at yale, dorian warren, who is also an msnbc contributor, professor of political science international public affairs at columbia university and a fellow at the roosevelt institute. and finally hillary mann-leveritt at american university. she served on the national security council under presidents clinton and bub and

as u.s. embassies across the middle east and author of "going to tehran." let me come out to this question about photographs. i thought what martin said was useful. the one, when you are living in the space that is the war, you don't need photographs to tell you about it. also, he made the point about conscription, not the because i agree or disagree with the israeli perspective on it, a reminder images are always in context of what we see when we see something depends on what we think we're looking at. when i say civilian dead versus military dead that's very different in the u.s. where if a voluntary military verse us a conscription one. it's use pl to be reminded of that. when are war images policy changes? when do they intersect with our -- what we're seeing and the way it changes how we behave? >> yeah, that's a great question. and we have a belief and you showed a whole history of images

that helped us remember that. we have a belief that images change policy themselves. but images change social policy and opinion only when there is a social movement behind them. and these images have 47 years of occupation and a resistance movement behind them. and it may very well be they will change public opinion globally. there is also a peace movement in israel and these images also are use fful to that movement. so israel is a diverse society, the middle east is didverse, an i would say the images are necessary but not sufficient. what is also necessary is the movement that is behind the images. >> i want to think about this, also, not just in the context of israel and hamas and gaza but to remember the u.s. has behaved in ways relatively recently, not that far off from this. president obama addressed on friday a little bit of how the

u.s. responded post-9/11 in part as a result of september 11 being something that was experienced simultaneously by so americans because of the broadcast and images. we experienced that attack at the same time. i want to listen to the president from friday on this. >> tortured some folks. we did some things that were contrary to our values. i understand why it happened. it's important when we look back to recall how afraid people were after the twin towers fell and the pentagon had been hit and the plane in pennsylvania had fallen and people did not know whether more attacks were imminent. >> acknowledging we tortured some folks, that we behaved in a way that was potentially understood as disproportionate

even in part because we were terrified and we were terrified in part because we saw what happened as it happened. >> it's true. images are going to move you. i think one thing to think of our photography, it's no longer mainstream media. you showed images from the "new york times." it's not that. social media. 2009 was the last time there was a big conflict. at that time there were about 50 million people on twitter. now 250 million people. now 1.5 billion people. instagram didn't exist. now 150 million people. i interviewed wrung kids. all self-appointed war correspondents taking pictures and posting it. we see immediately it is moving people. will it affect public policy is the question. you saw people 18-29, only 25% think it's justified what israel is doing the people of color, the same numbers. 50% say no. it's the obama coalition versus white conservatives.

that's the only group, the majority saying what israel is doing is justified and i think the imagery from social media has changed it. it's unfiltered. it's no longer mainstream media telling the story. that's why it's moving celebrities, too. >> i would disagree with all due respect. >> what? >> that it's between a white conservative camp and obama. i think what obama -- president obama is doing, and i saw this with president bush and president lyclinton it in the white houses i served. the critical thing is the narrative and to get the narrative quickly and decisively to which people can view these pictures. so when i was in the bush white house after 9/11 the most important thing was not to galvanize the country in sorrow, but to make sure that the pi pictures we would see out of afghanistan were sanitized so when we bombed the hospital in kandahar we said without any evidence on the ground that the taliban were using those people in the hospital in kandahar as human shields, something we could not have known but it was critically important to get the

narrative out. >> it is we see in real time -- i will never forget sitting there and watches the second plane, right? s if it is a searing, live moment. that sits next to sanitized moments of our response so we can never be held as accountable in our own minds because what we see coming out is simply never as horrific as we saw. so much more on this. the unlikely alliances in this conflict and the ways in which they're making nations take sides that are surprising when we come back. hink salmon and en. but the energy bp produces up here hink salmon and en. creates something else as well: jobs all over america. engineering and innovation jobs. advanced safety systems & technology. shipping and manufacturing. across the united states, bp supports more than a quarter million jobs. when we set up operation in one part of the country, people in other parts go to work. that's not a coincidence.

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further ceasefire negotiations in ejit after a ceasefire fell apart almost immediately on friday. egypt is one of several arab countries in the past supportive of hamas. but the knock times report this had week countries including egypt, saudi arabia and jurorda are sitting on the sidelines this time. if they're sitting on the sidelines, does that mean they're effectively supporting israel in this context and would the images we're seeing begin to shift that? >> the governments certainly are passively if not overtly. the last time there was such a huge conflagration in 2008-2009. but we've had an intervening variable which was the arab awakening or what some call the arab spring. we were shown front and center that there's a huge difference between arab-muslim populations and autocratic governments. the governments are playing with fire. i have spent so much of my life in saudi arabia, in the gulf, this is a powder keg.

for these governments to side with the u.s. and israel to kill palestinians is something that had will be their doom. we saw that with the mubarak government and i think that's what's in store. we are really in store for a dramatic change of alignments in the middle east, something that will hurt the united states, hurt israel, hurt our allies. it's something in part we set the train in motion for. >> interesting point that arab spring in part largely brought to us visually via social media helps to sort of disaggregate that notion of the state versus the state and its which are almost always in some level of contestation. dorian, thinking of that then, i want to look at two images that were reported by an nbc reporter, and these aren't some of the graphic images we have seen recently but just really powerful standing for almost the same moment when people believed

the ceasefire was occurring and the moment it is clearly no longer occurring. you see that beach. we're not looking at bodies here, just calmness in the sea and you recognize, no, the war is still going, the beach goes personless. s to that help us to gain any kind of understanding of what is happening in that space in that moment? >> i think this goes back to laura's point about context patters. you can't just look at an image without the broader context. i imagine for americans who look at that, it means something very different from palestinians or israelis or egyptians or other folks in the middle east. i want to bring back this point dean made. what we've seen is the nation state losing control over putting out images at the same time as we've seen social media so that -- and this links back to the very first story -- >> of eric garner. >> now we have people that have

video on their cameras and pictures that can did -- so when you see -- >> right. this image becomes not an image that was taken by a reporter. this was given to us by our citizens. >> if that image has a now and a futurity. these are our future and they will be used not the only to tell us what's happening now in all its horror but as evidence they will be used as a national narrative. they will be used as commemoration. they will be used as incitement. >> so these images coming out of gaza have that same future aspect. >> that's very important to understand that. >> there's one little -- the big images -- martin fletcher was on live from tel aviv. it's beautiful. the buildings all standing behind him. cut to eamon and there are buildings decimated. it's the subtle changes. some of the subtle ones i think tell a subtle l message. some can be really powerful.

>> this message is critically important. we assume it will lead to somehow an equalizing of the battlefield, people who have been dispossessed or without voice will have a voice. those people aren't all going to have a voice we like. and i think what we're seeing in israel is something that is incredibly disturbing. we saw a member of parliament put on her facebook that israel should are in fact, kill the mothers in gaza to prevent more snakes from being born. we've seen images of israelis dancing, that there's not going to be school in gaza because there are are no children left. the israeli narrative as problematic and disturbing as some of us may find that, we may see that, you know, in the future as something that was better than what's coming. >> and i think this goes to the point of this internal contestation within any nation and back to your point about you must have the social movement and the lefty in you stands up, social movement good.

i always want to point out, the klan was a social movement. this was a group that had power to a government that was overtaking and then took power into their own hands. social movement itself is not necessarily in any one. up next, i will share with you the incredible piece written by my guest, dean. he shared it with us all this week and we'll talk a bit about it. ♪ in the nation, the safest feature in your car is you. add vanishing deductible from nationwide insurance and get $100 off for every year of safe driving. which for you, shouldn't be a problem. just another way we put members first, because we don't have shareholders. join the nation. nationwide is on your side.

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palestinians. to them, i guess, palestinians are simply holograms. talking about images, how powerful is just a map from pre-1940s that simply demonstrates there's a space? just that as an image? >> the fact we're still fighting over is there a palestinian people, is there a palestinian state, in 2012 we're an invented people. my father is an inventor. we are still fighting to be considered human beings and that's the struggle for palestinians. >> but all people are invented people. just to say there's no african-american people until that identity comes -- there are no latinos in latin america, right? latino is an invented identity but really nothing creates that identity more powerfully than shared suffering. you want to create a people, e oppress them, and that will generate a people. >> sure. and it's simple. i wrote my article about my father being born in 1930s in

what was called palestine. it wasn't a political statement. it was what the state of israel today was called palestine. he was born on the west bank. right over the green line. we exist. there's a people. 5 million palestinians living in that little region right there. the to say these ry didiculous statements, they don't exist. there was never a country. you don't have a flag. doesn't help any of us. it's rid i can lus. people were attacked horribly by people on the right. i wrote another article. i got so much hate mail. i understand it. we're not disappearing. we're here. more of us in the media telling our story. we want to tell our narrative. i don't want to be completely tied to israel. we have our own lives, olive trees and dancing. we are human beings and my family, if it wasn't for this conflict would have been born and died within a few miles of where they were born in the west bank and wouldn't know anything about palestinians but fate had

other plans and we are here. >> the story dean is telling me, laura, reminds mean the question of what you are seeing or think you are seeing has everything to do with a pre-existing set of notions about what is true, what exists in the world. if i look at a map and it says israel, is that a lie or is it true? if i see palestine, is it a lie or true? simply seeing a thing does not convey meaning to it. >> seeing a thing is, first of all, a sensation of horror, of these, what we're seeing. but it's an invitation to bringing you own humanity. and you need to imagine a different future. photographs can teach us to imagine how we could do things differently. how we could be different. that's what these photographs are asking us to do, not to immediately see them in the immediate moment and all of our

preconceptions but the widest possible historical knowledge in order to understand what needs to be different. these photographs are a failure of humanity. they are a witness to that. >> as you bring up the point of history and talk about your own family history, hillary, what that draws for pea is a conversation ongoing, which is the way that you tell the story, dean, it sounds as though this conflict that we are currently seeing the photographs of is relatively recent in history. often it is told as if it's ancient, visceral and simply cannot exist. as though the reality of palestinian/israeli conflict is true. when i read your story, okay, it's been true for this period of time but not forever. does that change what we think is possible? our future? >> if you look at jewish communities around the middle east, after the '67 war there

was an emigration of jews from many of the iran arab countries. when i talked about that people said that's so terrible. of course they're suffering. no, i've been will. i've been to the kosher restaurants, to the jewish hospital in eiran. there is not this deep-seated arab, jewish or muslim jewish animosity. not the way there was in europe which was based on race, on color, based on genes and biology. that doesn't exist in the middle east. so i don't think that in terms of interrelations this is an unresolvable problem. in terms of power and dynamics it may be. the memory of the holocaust was freshst from 1948 to 1967 and israel was its most democratic, there was barely any food aid.

the united states decided to embed it in our narive after 1967 when we see israel can become a so-called strategic narrati narrative. >> it feels important to me because as horrible as it is i feel more optimistic. not the in the beginning of time in some way. >> we could step back, allow the criminal court to adjudicate this, step back our military aid. >> it becomes more reasonable. thank you to dean and to laura wechsler, also to dorian warren and to hillary mann. up next the latest on the arrival of patients with confirmed cases of ebola here in the united states. virtually all your important legal matters in just minutes. now it's quicker and easier for you to start your business,

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has been asked to accept two patients who are currently in africa infected with the ebola virus infection. the reason our facility was chosen for this is because we are only did -- we are one of only four institutions in the united states capable of handling patients of this nature. >> we learned one of the two american mashts infected with the ebola virus has affected here at an airport in georgia after being flown from liberia. the patient identified as interest kent brantley is being taken to emery university hospital in atlanta for treatment. he is the first known to reach the western hemisphere. doctors took precautions. he ayaybadejo rifd aboard a noncommercial flight, encased in two players of plastic. he will be put in a special isolation room where he will be

quarantined until recovery. we did not know which of the two would be arriving first. brantley and nancy, a missionary, were both diagnosed with the disease earlier this week as their condition deteriorated, a serum was sent to help. there was only enough you to treat one person. he insist ed that it be given t nancy. the doctor was instead treated using donated flood from a 14-year-old child who survived the disease. the situation worsens with the virus claiming more than 700 lives and forgeted more than 1,300 people. the government is diswatching military and police forces to enforce measures to keep the disease from spreading.

our government has nonessential trips to guinea sierra leone. patients should be on alert for those with ebola symptoms. now in the united states, let's go to nbc news correspondent outside emory university in atlanta where dr. kent brantley will be treated. how is emery preparing for his arrival? >> reporter: emery says they've been preparing for years. they've had this unit for about 12 years and have prepared and run drills and are ready to put that training into practice. dr. brantley arrived at dobbins air reserve base a short time ago. he will be put in an ram blans here at emery university hospital accompanied by law enforcement.

he will go into that unit, one of four in the country. doctors will be performing a supportive role, giving the body what it needs to keep fighting. that might mean kiddie dney dia machines, they are prepared to do whatever they need. there has been a lot of controversy on social media about the decision to bring an infected ebola patient into the united states. one doctor says he fully sports that decision. >> i would really dispute the notion this is bringing ebola into the country. this is a sick patient to feeds our help, somebody's parent, somebody's son, somebody's sibling. he needs our help and we will try to to help him.

>> reporter: and the family members will be able to see them through a glass window. if the patient is able, they will be able to talk to them through a communications system. the unit is self-contained, separate from the rest of the hospital, the patient rooms, even the laboratory is just dedicated for this specialty unit. that eliminates the risk to other patients in the hospital, to visitors and to the medical staff. now dr. brantley is expected here in just a short time. the plane will turn around and go back to africa and the other ebola victim expected to be here in the next few days. back to you. >> thank you so much. a senior fellow at the institute for international humanitarian affairs at fordham university, he has a diploma in tropical medicine, a masters in public health are from harvard, has worked with the world health organization in humanitarian crises all around the word. and joining me is senior editor at box.com where she oversees health medication coverage.

sarah, i want to start with you for just a moment because before some of this information started becoming clear there was a lot of conversation and vaccination and whether or not vhaving a vaccine would make a difference. what are the challenges relative to ebola? >> they are not necessarily science. we've done really well in testing ebola vaccines. the challenge is mostly economic that there's not really a pharmaceutical can company that sees a big payoff in creating an ebola vaccine. when they happen they happen in very low income parts of the world like west africa. they don't see a big payday. though we have the science put into testing and developing and experimenting with ebola vaccines there's not a company

that wants to move it through phase two and three trials. it's a difficult situation where we have a lot of great science but not enough to move it forward. >> sort of what we're hearing about this physician as well as the missionary who has also been infected, the other american infected is they are there on humanitarian missions. so i'm wondering if this constitutes a broader argument for public investment, profit driven incentive for pharmaceutical development not just ebola but in a broader sense. >> yeah, i think it does raise the question of how we develop drugs. ebola is not the only disease that is either rare or hits a less wealthy area of the world. those are the orphan diseases that get left behind, those that hit wealthy people.

drugs like diabetes and hepatitis c we probably want those cures but it doesn't seem like a system to finance these cures that for diseases that hit less wealthy parts of the world. we do have the nih here in washington. they do finance basic research on things like ebola. the challenge is bringing it to market. that's the part where pharmaceutical companies usually step in be and we're not seeing this challenge of vaccines for other diseases that hit these parts of the world of the it does raise the question, should we look at other ways that pharmaceutical companies don't see a big payday associated with. >> sarah, thank you for joining us and bringing that perspective on the question of how we're even thinking about vaccines.

let me come back here to new york and i want to ask you, doctor, so i'm hearing this language about vaccines. we heard in atlanta, come on, this is not ebola coming, this is a patient coming. you and i in the break talking about the fact i was feeling legitimate panic but not wanting to be the cable news host. so help me breathe through had. >> so this is a really interesting and complicated story. we don't have to panic about ebola. it isn't the right virus to start an epidemic here and here is why. as soon as you become infectious you become symptomatic and the symptoms are dramatic. cases are relatively straightforward to identify, certainly in new york. and then all the other things that we can do for control, active case finding, contact tracing, isolation of those people and then treatment. all of that means that it won't

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built for business. this has been a more aggressive ebola outbreak than we've seen in the past. but keep in mind that it is still affecting parts of three countries. keep in mind that ebola is not something that is easily transmitted. that's why generally outbreaks

dissipate, but the key is identifying, quarantining, isolating, those who contract it, making sure practices are in place that avoid transmission. >> does the president have it right there? >> he's exactly right. the guy that discovered ebola virus in 1976 now runs the london school of tropical medicine. one of the most pre-eminent organizations in the world for studying this kind of thing. he said he would confidently sit next to someone on a train with ebola. he's right, it's hard to spread. in the long term, we have to worry about that, but immediately what we need to be doing is containing this epidemic in wet afrist africa a pouring money in. it's not a very different situation to three weeks ago when we weren't talking about it and the w.h.o. wasn't spending $100 million. >> okay, so when you, however, say the keys are -- also when the president says identifying,

quarantining, isolating, and then what i hear is there are military personnel in many of these nations that are now tasked with doing that. these are nations that have just come out of bloody civil wars where the appearance of military isn't exactly comforting in their local communities. is there reason to believe that the very things we need to do may be the very hard et things to do? that in fact investigating might be an easier task on the continent. >> it involving changing peoples live dramatically in west africa. there will be curfews. there will be military hunting, you know, seeking out patients and compelling them to be isolated or treated. it's not a very nice situation. we should have been doing this months ago when it was still in guinea, when it was containable. the problem is that no one ever got a medal for preventing an ebola epidemic. what you get is a metal for responding to it. prevention is always underfunded. what we should be worried about

is the fact that if it was flu, we would be panicking in new york. >> why, tell me. >> flu spreads differently. it's airborne. it's easier to catch. you're contagious before you're symptomatic. hiv is a great virus for spreading in an epidemic because you can be asymptomatic for years, give it to hundreds of people. pe ebola, you're so symptomatic, you're going to be moving to the hospital. >> in the case of flu and in the case of ebola, we're still in the reality where you said prevention is underfunded. that we focus on it so much less. so when we have diseases that spread easily, we're not well suited for the prevention side. >> what we're seeing is a failure of the international system to respond to this virus. this is a virus we should care about for humanitarian reasons. there's a survey a couple of days ago in one of the big markets in liberia and they asked 1,000 people and 90% of

them didn't believe ebola exists. this is not a region the west has treated well over the historical period. they've got good reasons not to trust us. >> you both made me feel better it is unlikely to become an epidemic in the u.s. and made me feel worse about the fact it is a crisis on west coast of africa. thank you to dr. alexander. and that is our show for today. thanks to you at home for watching. michelle martin will be here. right now, it's time for a preview. >> new fighting and new questions about the search for a captured israeli soldier. the story behind why that situation keeps changing. i sit down with chief palestinian negotiator saeb erakat at 1:30. taxpayers are footing the bill and polls show they are not buying it, so why are republicans doing it? and a political soap opera. cash cars and a reported hidden romantic crush.

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