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for benjamin netanyahu. meanwhile, peace talks in israel are going on today without israel at the table. i'll talk to a top democrat from the house foreign affairs committee about that. also, in an 11th hour vote, undocumented kids crossing the border. what's in it, what's not? we've got the breakdown. also, the sweet tax. the new bill wants to tax sugary drinks and soda nationwide. i'll talk to the congresswoman who wrote that bill. >> i've just been a mess since all this happened. couldn't eat. couldn't sleep. wake up screaming. let him go. >> wii hearing from the family of a man who died after an nypd police officer put him in a choke hold. the medical examiner rules the death a homicide. we'll have the latest on that investigation. meanwhile, good afternoon to you all. i'm t.j. holmes in today for mr. craig melvin.
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developing this hour, one of two americans who contracted the deadly ebola virus is now on u.s. soil and is in the care of doctors at emery university hospital in atlanta. the balance arrived there at emery. two people got out of the back. one of them be the doctor, the american, who is infected. nbc's sarah dollop is keeping an eye on all of this for us. what happens now? >> reporter: well, what happens now, t.j., is that doctors are evaluating doctor brantley, kind of a twist there for the doctor who had pledged his life to be a medical missionary down there in liberia. right now, they need to assess
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his condition. we were all very surprised when we actually saw him walk out of the balance, assisted by a medical professional. they were both clad in the protective suits that nobody expected for him to walk out of that balance of his own volition. quite incredible after learning that his condition actually worsened about 48 hours ago. he's in this special isolated unit. doctors figuring out what they can do. there is no treatment. there is no cure for ebola. so they have to provide kind of supportive care. they have to figure out what his body needs in order to build the antibodies to fight ebola. that might mean fluids. that might mean monitoring his blood pressure. if things were to take a turn for the worse, they are prepared for dialysis or respirator. right now they are in the evaluation stage. the specialty unit is in one of these buildings behind me and it is actually sealed off from the rest of the hospital. it has its own laboratory, its own patient room, even its own filtration system to minimize the risk for the other patients and the general public. >> what do we know about the
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other american, when she might be returning to the united states as well? >> reporter: she will return some time during the week of august third. that begins tomorrow. that plane that delivered dr. brantley can only hole one person at a time. it was on the ground for such a short time today, really enough time to drop him off, refuel, and then it was back on its way. it will return to liberia, get her, bring her back to atlanta, and the same process, to bring her here to emery university hospital. her family just released a statement saying that they are thankful for the safe transfer of dr. brantley and that they are praying right now for his full recovery. >> thank you so much. i want to bring in an assistant professor of infectious diseases at boston university medical school, and also will be traveling to sierra leone next week to learn more about the ebola virus. thank you so much for being here. i'm not seeing the doctor yet.
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i do want to confirm we do have her. there she is. thank you so much for being here. we were all surprised to see the doctor walk off that balance. should we have been surprised? were you surprised? >> you know, i was pleasantly surprised. as you know, this virus actually takes its toll at different rates on different people, but given the fact that you can see him walking means that his bin laden pressure -- his blood pre great and his vitals are great. >> maybe you feel the same way, we understand what you were saying. they were excited, that they would be excited to treat this type of patient. what does this mean? i guess history-making, if you will, to some degree. this is the first time someone who is known to have ebola has been in the united states and we're going to get a chance now to take a good look and learn a lot, are we not? >> yes. i should start by saying that the u.s. medical system and the public health system has seen a
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lot of highly communicable infections in the past. middle eastern respiratory syndrome virus and sars, but we've taken a lot of others as well, such as dengue. we have seen this disease before and have handled it with a history of safety, but not this sort of patients involved. but also the health care workers. when they're saying they're excited, it's because we're in an increasingly smaller world. never seen a patient, it only equips us better. >> help our viewers -- this is a very important question i wanted to ask you. there seems to be so much information and maybe some misinformation out there, exactly about ebola and whether it's airborne, which the cdc and other doctors will tell you it's not. but you have so many people out there who are now seeing this and it's in the united states,
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and they just have those fears, whether it's from hollywood and people have fears, or just not trusting the system, and just things happen. help us understand ebola and maybe even this particular strain of ebola. is there a threat or a chance or any possibility that this thing is airborne and can be passed the way we're used to seeing flu or cold passed around? >> so, i'm glad you mentioned the media component of this. ebola seems to incite this cultural anxiety in us. i do think some of that is what we see. it has been said many times before -- i'll say it again here -- the major form of transmission, the mode of transmission for ebola is close contact and bodily fluids. i think the reason there is this concern is it's in terms of how long it survives out of the body and how it mobilizes but says nothing about whether airborne is a mode of transmission. i can tell you that from what we
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know, that it is -- having a patient such as dr. brantley, it's of absolutely no threat to the general public. particularly when they're in such good hands as the people in emery. >> all right, doctor, we appreciate that answer. i know you'll be going to sierra leone, so good luck to you over there. we hope to talk to you when you get back. thanks so much. eight minutes past the hour. israel may be scaling back its operation in some parts of gaza. prime minister benjamin netanyahu will be making an announcement to that effect. we're expecting that at any moment, certainly within the hour, but it could happen at any moment. this is coming as israeli troops continue bombarding the southern gaza town in their search for the 23-year-old soldier believed to have been captured there. however, hamas says they believe that soldier was killed during an ambush. meanwhile, palestinian health officials say the death toll in gaza has topped 1,600 with more than 9,000 people wounded.
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nbc chief foreign correspondent richard engel joining me now. what can we expect possibly in this announcement that could come at any moment? >> reporter: a lot of israelis are watching very closely. what we think might be said, and this is what we're being told by israeli officials, but we won't know until netanyahu actually speaks, that could come quite shortly, is that the prime minister is going to say that israel has been very successful in its mission to eliminate hamas's tunnels. that the mission to destroy hamas's tunnels, these are tunnels that are between the gaza strip, into israel, that hamas has used to launch attacks on the israeli communities, to try and kidnap soldiers and the tunnels that hamas has used quite effectively during this month-long fight. i think the prime minister is going to say that those tunnels have now been neutralized.
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the tunnel mission was what israel said this war was about. and once it says that it is finishing or has finished that tunnel mission that israeli troops can start to pull back from gaza, pull away from the border and it would mean a major dees ralaticalation of this fig. that's what we're expecting. >> if that's what we expect and that's what we hear, how will that message be received in gaza? >> reporter: it's going to be received with a mixed message here, frankly. hamas does not want the war to end this way. hamas has said it will not accept a unilateral move, an israeli pullback. hamas says it will continue to fight. it will continue to fire rockets, more than 3,000 rockets have been fired over the last month from gaza at israel. the vast majority of them missing, their targets being shot down.
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what hamas wants is a negotiated settlement. hamas wants a cease-feire deal. it doesn't want to just see israel saying we have finished our mission, we've destroyed the tunnels, our troops are now pulling back, and our mission is over. but i think that's probably what we're going to see. and we're also probably going to see threats from the israeli prime minister to hamas saying if the militants continue to fire rockets after our troops pull back, we will respond with heavy, perhaps even devastating force. and i think that's where this thing may be headed, israel saying it's finished its tunnel mission, it's pulling back, and with a threat that if hamas continues to fire rockets, it's not going to send in troops chasing after them, which has been quite costly for israel. israel has lost more than 60 troops and civilians in this fight, but it will fire on them with air power. >> richard engel for us in gaza. thank you so much. we will keep a watch on that announcement and bring you the
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dismantle many of those tunnels. it looks like a lot of that work has been done. we are waiting to hear from him. we'll be monitoring that closely. earlier today, the chief negotiator for the palestinians spoke with my colleague alex witt, calling on israel to send represents to cairo for the ongoing talks there, which israel is not participating in, at least at this time. >> we can achieve the political end by this war, by killing more than 17,000 palestinians, 7,000 wounded, demolishing more than 35,000 palestinian homes, this is not going to get anywhere other than add to the complexities, add fuel to the fire, and the cycle of violence. >> democratic congressman eliot engel is a ranking member on the house foreign affairs committee. he recently traveled to israel with president obama. thank you for being here. tell me what you make of these developments. we're standing by for this announcement. it appears they're going to be scaling back, at least for that incursion into gaza.
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>> well, first of all, any cease-fire in gaza has to include the dismantling of these tunnels, and also making sure that they can't be build again. i think if netanyahu makes this kind of announcement, i think he feels that israel will have fulfilled its goals. however, of course, there was a cease-fire that was broken by hamas, and i think that he is not going to want to walk into that again. president obama has called for the israeli soldier who was captured to be released unconditionally. it would be helpful if that could be done, but i think that israel probably sees no reason to sit opposite hamas, which of course, is a terrorist organization, and apparently can't even be trusted to keep a cease-fire. >> what's next in your opinion, if the point was to dismantle
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these tunnels, is that the end game for the israelis? of course, they have the right to protect themselves if rockets continue to be fired and their citizens continue to be threatened. but for the most part, if these tunnels are dismantled, what next in your opinion? >> i think it has to be coupled with the de militarization of gaza. hamas has been lobbying their missiles on israeli civilians, and no country -- and president obama has said that. we in the united states wouldn't tolerate it. no country can tolerate those kinds of attacks every single day. week, months, years against zil yans. -- civilians. it should also be noted that hamas is a terrorist organization. the fight is between israel and a terrorist organization which denies israel's right to exist, which wants to kill every israeli they can kill. no country could stand for that. so we hope that if israel is
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pulling back and that there will be some quiet, they'll also be some kind of a demilitarization so we don't have in six months, eight months, ten months the same thing starting all over again. >> there are some -- and "the washington post" was writing about this, that there are signs of some impatience. some growing frustration with israelis as the civilian casualties continue to mount. what is your take then, as palestinian officials reporting at least 1,600 casualties there in gaza. what would you say to the mounting casualties we have seen on the palestinian side, and i guess to the israelis and their responsible to protect at the pentagon, as officials at the pentagon put it, living up to the high standards of protecting innocent life. >> look, civilian casualties are horrific. it's terrible. innocent people shouldn't be killed. but i think you have to look at why that's happening. hamas uses the palestinians as
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human shields. they build their bomb factories and their missile launches in heavily, densely populated areas. even at the u.n. school, they found missiles three times or four times this past week there as well. so when you use your own people as human shields and then they get killed as a result, it's really kind of what my mother used to call crocodile tears. insincere tears, because you're the ones who put your own people in harm's way in the first place. i don't know what israel is supposed to do. if they want to weed out those rockets that are coming at them and their civilians are in close proximity, i think you blame the people who put those civilians in close proximity. israel gives phone calls, gives messages, drops notes and says we're going to bomb, we'll give you time to get out and leave. hamas tells the palestinian civilians to stay. so i think that they bear culpability.
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the house of representatives passed a resolution this week condemning hamas for using the palestinian people as human shields. and also, last night, we passed money replenishing the iron dome, which has saved countless israeli lives. >> and it sounds as if israel has no choice almost, but do they bear any responsibility for trying to be a little more -- taking a little more care in protecting innocent civilian life in your opinion? >> look, i think innocent civilian life should always be protected. but i think israel's got a right to defend itself and i think the hamas terrorist organization should stop using the palestinian people as human shields. this is not a fight between israel and palestinians. it's a fight between israel and a terrorist organization named hamas that denies israel's very right to watch. i don't know what else the israelis are supposed to do. >> i know we'll talk to you again. hopefully we'll get you again when you're back here in new york. thank you so much. >> thank you. >> we're 20 minutes past the hour. still standing by expecting israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu to make an
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crazy. they didn't know the context of why she said that. but essentially she got the call yesterday that the m.e. has ruled this a homicide, that he died as a direct result of his neck and chest being constricted and compressed and the fact that he was pinned down to the sidewalk like that. there were some underlying factors as well, but the primary drivers of the death was the actions caused by the police officer as you see there in that video. >> what happens now? now that it is a homicide, that's probable cause for an arrest. >> he says that is all you need. what more do you need other than this m.e.'s report saying that this man's death was a homicide, and that it did not have to happen. came at the hands of this officer. they're making calls for the u.s. attorney and the district attorney to file charges in the case. now, it's beginning to be a procedural matter who's going to file, if indeed they're going to file. but as it stands right now, they have not filed. they have both met with the families, the u.s. attorney and the district attorney's office. so i expect to see something
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perhaps this week. in the meantime, the officer remains sort of off duty. he had to turn in his badge and gun. it was another officer that was reassigned. there was a lot of news about the four emergency medical workers who showed up who basically provided no medical care for him on the sidewalk there and essentially looked at him and checked him for a pulse but didn't do anything, no cpr, no oxygen, nothing. >> there were calls there certainly today for justice, which would mean an arrest. but also for policy changes. but it's against policy to put someone in a choke hold in the first place. so what policy changes could we be looking at? >> the police commissioner said he will absolutely retrain this police force on the use of force. and obviously the choke hold is not a part of the tactics that are approved by the department. a lot of departments across the country don't approve of that maneuver because it can lead to an unfortunate tragedy like this. the police union says that all of this could have been avoided
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had eric garner just simply complied with the officer's instruction, taken the arrest, and peacefully gone off with the officers. obviously that didn't happen. >> nbc's ron mott on the story for us. good to have you here. coming up on the bo bottom of the hour. benjamin netanyahu addressing the nation. a soldier believed to be captured in gaza. he's saying israel has nothing against the citizens of gaza. its battle is with hamas. we will continue to monitor this news conference. it's in hebrew. we'll translate it as quickly as we get it. meantime, coming up, preventing infant mortality with something that looks like a plastic bag. or big idea coming up. also -- >> i'm going to have to act alone because we don't have enough resources. we've already been pretty clear, we've run out of money. >> obama rolls out the rules to
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if, in fact, house republicans are concerned about me acting independently of congress, despite the fact that i've taken fewer executive actions than my republican predecessor or the democratic predecessor before that or the republican predecessor before that, then the easiest way to solve it is passing legislation. >> that's president obama yesterday challenging republicans to send him a real bill to address the crisis at the border. the president made that statement before the house voted on a $694 million immigration bill. it passed along party lines 223-189. the bill provides money for national guard troops at the border. it would also change a 2008 trafficking law, making it easier to deport unaccompanied minors from all countries, not just those from mexico and
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canada. they also passed another bill that would phase out the president's deferred action for childhood arrivals program, which had protected dreamers. both have no chance of passing the democratic controlled senate. you hear that again, folks? both of these have no chance of going anywhere. let me head over to the white house. nbc white house correspondent kristen welker joins me now. hello to you and what's the president to do now? >> hi, t.j. president obama has been talking with some of his constituent groups about what to do next. he's prepared to take unilateral action when it comes to immigration reform. based on my conversations with senior administration officials, he is still on track to do that. and we know thatted a vo ka adv been encouraging him to go big. i'm told he's not shying away from that option. among the options he's considering, potentially granting legal protection for those who are here, and who have
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very close relations with u.s. citizens. those who don't have any type of criminal history. and that could impact a broad swath of those who are here illegally, as many as 5 million people, that's the number that "the washington post" is reporting, although nbc news has not independently confirmed that number. if president obama does announce any type of executive action that is broad and that is big, that will certainly anger republicans already. they are saying he doesn't have the authority to do that. of course, some democrats who are facing tough re-election battles like mary landrieu in louisiana has expressed concern about president obama going too big in terms of an executive action on immigration reform. but based on my conversations with democrats, they say that any political fallout would be minimal. they believe this would be a win for them, not just in 2014, but looking ahead to 2016, they think that it would be something that would be good for them.
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at least if president obama did take some type of broad action on immigration reform. t.j.? >> nbc's kristen welker for us at the white house. thank you so much. i want to turn now to "washington post" white house reporter david nakamura and jonathan allen. david, let me start with you. yes, they passed a bill, the republicans did, which probably isn't going to go anywhere. let's listen to the president one more time from his press conference yesterday. >> house republicans suggested that since they don't expect to actually pass a bill that i can sign, that i actually should go ahead and act on my own to solve the problem. keep in mind, that just a few days earlier, they voted to sue me for acting on my own, and then when they couldn't pass the bill yesterday, they put out a statement suggesting i should act on my own, because they couldn't pass a bill. >> david, have they left the man
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a choice? >> what you saw from the president yesterday was an aggressive move to sort of set up over the next five weeks the groundwork for the white house to roll out some time after the summer this idea that kristen welker just talked about, which is to sort of go bigger on executive action, on immigration. i think that would do two things. one, the president says we have to deal with this crisis on the border and congress did not agree on a final funding bill, so i'm going to devote more resources toward that. at the same time, i'm going to answer concerns of those undocumented ee eed immigrantse been here and law-abiding. i'm going to maybe allow them to work and pay taxes legally, at least temporarily, while we sort of shift our focus elsewhere on the current crisis. so i think the president was really trying to put the blame on the house, say i tried to work with you the past year on broader reforms. you couldn't even come with a bill to address the current crisis. i have to work on my own and i think that's what you're going to see the president do in the fall. >> "the wall street journal"
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editorial called this another spectacle for the republicans. also, this was the latest immigration debacle. just how bad of a look is this for the gop right now? >> it's terrible. i think what house republicans had wanted to do was send a message on immigration to at least make an argument for their view of things, and because it took them an extra day to get it done, it became clear that they don't have a singular message. that the president is going to use this to lay the groundwork for aggressive sweeping action, probably give a lot of work permits to undocumented workers who are already here. i think he wanted to do that before. but now house republicans have given him the excuse that he was looking for. i think, you know, they're playing to their base in a lot of these house districts at the expense of their ability to put together a national program that is appealing to hispanic voters down the road. >> let's listen in here to luis gutierrez. this was yesterday. >> it is though the republican
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caucus that began to reach out after the 2012 november debacle as we re-elected president barack obama, and they said we need to do something different. we need to reach out to that latino community. we need to sensitize ourselves to their need. it's as though they have amnesia and have forgotten and have abandoned that road. >> is there a clearer signal now to how this is going to play out, now that everybody is going back home to tear districts for the summer? >> if you talk about advocates, labor unions, all those folks pushing the white house to move forward on immigration reform as aggressively as they can, i think they're just going to keep pushing that message. the republicans, i think they're not going to be talking much about imgrimigration other than say this border crisis is the president's fault and this shows the border is not the cure. i think that's a common theme among conservatives who believe that strongly. but i think going forward, there's this idea that in the midterms, the immigration is not going to help democrats that
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much in these state where is there's competitive senate races. but as jonathan said, looking forward to 2015 and 2016, republicans i think have really squandered an opportunity to get past immigration as a major issue and you're going to see it as a big issue in the campaign, especially on the democratic side, as they really sort of try to galvanize their base. >> last thing to you here. we did have a breakdown from our nbc political editor about just how ineffective this congress has been, on track to be one of the least productive in modern history. but also this week, they were able to pass the v.a. reform bill and also the temporary highway funding bill. they passed those two bills and those were pretty popular measures. should we give them credit for doing to some great degree the easy part politically, which was pass two things that everybody could agree on? >> these are the things that they couldn't leave town without doing. they had to do a highway bill or that funding would have run out. these are mom and apple pie issues from the perspective of the public, so i guess you give
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him a little bit of credit for not defying what all of their constituents wanted them to do. they can uniformly agree to do a few things. they did funding for iron dome in israel. they are able to do a few things, but they're not able to do much, and i don't think this week was one of the most stellar in congressional history by any stretch. >> i'd like to talk to you soon and maybe we can -- you can point me to the weeks that were stellar for this congress. >> back a few years. >> jonathan allen, david nakamura. gentlemen, thank you both. i'll see you again soon. we are 20 of the top of the hour. time to flash back. it was 24 years ago today when iraq invaded kuwait. that invasion led to the gulf war. at the time, saddam hussein was president of iraq. he made the call to invade his country's tiny oil rich neighbor. five days later, president
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george h.w. bush ordered american troops to the persian gulf as part of operation desert shield. five months after that, after hussein ignored a deadline to remove his forces from kuwait, a massive u.s.-led international offensive known as operation desert storm was launched to free kuwait. here's how our nbc news crews covered the invasion. >> at this hour, iraq remains in firm control of the tiny oil-rich country of kuwait and there is no indication that those iraqi troops, some 100,000 of them, will be leaving soon. they invaded kuwait last night united states time in the middle of the night, kuwaiti time and they have taken control of that tiny country which was not prepared to defend itself. it only has about 20,000 troops altogether. it's about the size of new jersey. and iraq, a battle-tested country led by a man by the name of saddam hussein. he has grand designs for his own personal empire, and of course, he badly needs the oil revenue of that country.
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>> netanyahu said israel is prepared to continue fighting in the gaza strip in order to meet its security needs. we continue to monitor that press conference that is going on live right now. up next, to our big idea. device created in a man's kitchen that could save the lives of a baby and mother when complications happen in labor. this is called the odon advice, the brain child of an argentine mechanic, who came up with the idea after watching a youtube video on how to release a cork from a wine bottle. according to the world health organization, it would only be able to ease deliver ris but could also serve as an
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alternative to c-sections. it's just one of several ideas that emerged from a contest for ideas on saving lives at birth. let me bring in wendy taylor, director of saving lives at birth. and has that particular device. give me an idea -- this is a mechanic. this wasn't his thing. why could this device turn out to be such a big deal around the world? >> if 48-hour window around the time of birth is when mothers and babies are most vulnerable. around the world, about 150,000 women die in childbirth each year. and 1.6 million newborns die. and most of those are in the developing countries, countries that lack access to reliable sources of electricity. they don't have access to trained and skilled health providers. so they don't have all the modern amenities that we have in
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our hospitals here today. we need new solutions. >> how could this cut down on some of those deaths at birth, this particular device? >> obstructive labor is definitely one of the causes of maternal mortality and could also cause problems for new bor borns. this actually is a replacement for something like the forceps. we've had this around for hundreds of years. what this actually does, it's really low-cost, simple device. very easy to use. actually, my 11-year-old daughter demoed it yesterday. so you don't need extensive training to be able to use it. >> how does it work? tell me what i'm looking at here. >> this is a double sleeve plastic sheet. you use an inserter device. and it inserts through the birth
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canal, and basically forms a little nice balloon around the baby's head. and i will try to demo it for you here from this angle. you gently pool. we've got a little balloon. we release the air. and then, you just gently pull. and the baby's head comes out of the birth canal. >> has this been demonstrated and used for a live birth that we know of yet? >> i believe it's been used in some clinical trials so far on healthy births. they're testing it in argentina and also south africa. so right now it has to go through clinical testing. but it certainly has a lot of promise for use in the developing world. but also use in the developed world. it could be a nice alternative. >> we do know that you handed out 30 more grants to folks who
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are working on this same type of thing, which is trying to cut down on those mortality rates at birth. so maybe we'll come back and you'll show us another device. the odon is today's big idea. thank you so much for this. >> great, thank you. >> if you have a big idea out there, we want you to let us know about it. you can let us know via twitter, or you can e-mail us at bigidea.msnbs@nbcuni.com. a new bill wants to tax the makers of sodas, sports drinks and certain juices. the congresswoman who's behind the bill asks about how it will work, and what it's meant to do.
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the legislation would charge manufacturers are penny per teaspoon of sugar and other high caloric sweeteners. it's meant to combat the country's obesity crisis. but the american beverage association is pushing back saying this is an old idea that just does not work. joining me now, the congresswoman behind the bill. thank you so much for being here. how are you going to keep this from being passed on to me? i don't want to pay any more for my drinks. >> well, got to take that up with the beverage association. they don't have to pass it on. but they will. but look, you said it very accurately. we have a very serious dual crisis in public health today. one is obesity. the other is diabetes. we're looking at about almost 35% of adults who are obese, 70% of kids.
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our children, the numbers have tripled and quadrupled. what do we know? we know that sugar is a culprit. there is an enormous volume, if you will, of scientific research and data that shows how sugar is correlated to diabetes. and we have to address it in some way, and the same way we dealt with the public health problem with tobacco. >> but is part of your objective to get those companies to pass along an increase to the consumer because you're hoping that consumers, if they don't want to pay any more for it, maybe they will cut down. >> what i want to do is deter consumption of sugary beverages. as we found with tobacco, with
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the increased cost, that consumption is down. it has been very successful in the cessation of smoking. and we know what a crisis that was in public health, and similar to that, this is what we're looking at here. so yes, what we want to do is to put, you know, a dent in that consumption of sugar. in an effort to deal with a public health crisis. what we will do, the money will go to the public health prevention fund, which will take a look at freetreatment, preven, research, nutrition education, etc., so it's put to good use and the deterrence and prevention. >> the beverage association, as you know -- i'm sure you've been hearing from them. they responded and said this is an old idea that has gotten no traction before. what's different about your bill
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that's been tried before? is there anything different? or is this just a new effort? >> well, i'm not sure that i -- you know, i expect the beverage industry to do precisely what it is doing. i think what we're looking at today is this very serious public health crisis. american heart association has come out in support of this in addition to a number of health organizations. because they're on the front lines. they realize what's happening out there. we also have a much greater awareness in the public today of nutrition. and health. so if you combine the two pieces, public health and a greater awareness, i think that there's every opportunity to move forward. you know, look, about a number of years ago, i proposed a menu labeling. let's put the calories on menu boards. at that time, i was regarded as the crazy aunt in the attic.
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and now we know that it's the law of the land. it is part of the affordable care act. >> well, congresswoman -- >> we will have the calories on the board and we are beginning to deter the use of sugar. >> i have to leave it there. hope to have you back. i know this debate is not over about this particular legislation. thank you, so, so much. we're going to have a live update on our breaking news out of israel. stay with us. not only do they clean everyday dirt, they clean a lot of unexpected stuff too. like scuffed up shoes, tough stuck-on sticker gunk, and lots more. in fact, his book got so full... he made a website instead. share your magic eraser tips at mycleanbook.com
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the u.s. he arrived just a couple hours ago. we'll have a live update on his treatment. also, just hours before heading onto their summer break, the house passed a bill to block undocumented kids crossing the border. what's in that bill, what's not, and what's next? no justice! no justice! >> a community battle cry for the family of the new york man who died after an officer put him in a choke hold. his death has been ruled a homicide. we'll have the latest in that investigation. also, bat kid begins. remember the little guy, 5-year-old batkid who took over san francisco last year. now there's a documentary in the works with some never-before-seen footage. i'm talking to the director. thank you all for joining us today. i'm t.j. holmes in today for craig melvin. we continue to follow the breaking news out of the middle east. israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu moments ago just announced israel is close to finishing its mission to destroy all the known tunnels from gaza.
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but he also said israel is prepared to continue the fight in the gaza strip as needed. netanyahu warned hamas will pay a "intolerable price" if it continues to fire rockets into israel and urged all countries to stand with his nation. >> stand with israel, a democracy is fighting a terrorist organization. there is only one place for decent, civilized people to stand, and that's to stand with israel. >> nbc's martin fletcher joins us now from tel aviv. what are we to make of the statement from prime minister netanyahu? >> reporter: everybody was listening to see whether he would make a firm statement. either is israel going to end the ground invasion or go in deeper, in particular because of the israeli soldier. in fact, what he said was pretty much staying in the middle. he said israel is very close to
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finishing -- achieving its major goals in gaza, in particular destroying all the tunnels. the word he used translated into english was regroup. he said at that point israel will regroup and decide what to do. he didn't commit israel or the army to coming in, going out either way. it's just a matter of regrouping and deciding what to do. that will probably be based on what reaction is now from hamas, how many rockets will hamas fire into israel. the key development really on the ground was that israel told residents, one of the towns in northern gaza where the most severe fighting was taking place, israel told them you can now -- told them you can now go home. and the same israeli tanks and personnel carriers were seen leaving gaza and returning to israel. that suggests the key fighting in that major area of northern gaza is, in fact, over. but in the south, israels are still continuing to fight about
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60 palestinians at least, killed today in that area where the israeli lieutenant was taken. so the idea of an end to the fighting is not near. the defense minister who followed netanyahu, he emphasized that the operation could go on for a good time yet, a good deal longer. and the emphasis on the palestinians and the international community, which is the peace talks in cairo, well, israel has said they're not even going to send is delegation to those peace talks. israel says it's just not worth it. that they had a deal with hamas, a cease fire, the 72-hour humanitarian cease-fire that began on friday for three days. it didn't last two hours and israel accuses hamas of breaking the cease-fire. now their conclusion is no point talking to hamas, no point arranging another cease-fire. it now appears that israel will
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withdraw in its own good time. for hamas, i think that is probably a blow because hamas wants a deal with israel under which the siege of gaza would be lifted. if israel withdraws unilaterally, then there's no agreement about the siege, so hamas would not have gained very much in terms of their major condition, which was the lifting of the siege. so that's the bad news i believe for the citizens of gaza, who were hoping that they would be able to bring in food, medicine, building supplies. they would need israel to negotiate that with egypt, which controls the southern border. >> martin fletcher for us in tel aviv, thank you so much. i want to turn to george mitchell, he was appointed by president obama as a special envoy for middle east peace, a role he served, and until 2011. what did you make of the statement as well from benjamin netanyahu? our reporter saying that everybody's standing by, waiting for a firm statement and he kind of stayed in the middle and talked about regrouping.
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>> ei think it probably lays th ground for a withdrawal of israeli forces, as your correspondent indicated. that already appears to be occurring in the northern part of gaza. it also serves the purpose, of course, of reporting to the people of israel, which people expect from their leaders. periodic reports on a conflict that's ongoing. it probably takes focus on the conflict between the egyptians and various palestinian factions. i think that although israel will not achieve its ultimate objective of removal of hamas and the threat to its security from gaza, it has achieved the tactical goal of eliminating for the moment at least the tunnels that have been a serious problem for them and of severely degrading hamas's capability to serve as a threat in the future.
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from hamas's side, they have elevated themselves politically within palestinian society. before this outbreak, hamas has had a pretty low point politically with their opposition, the palestinian authority led by president abbas, being seen as probably higher standing among the palestinian people. as a result i think it's probably adversely affected abbas because it raises a sense of patriotism and unity among the palestinian people, even though they have internal political differences. so hamas has probably made some political gains in that regard. it's hard to see whether that will be long-lasting. that may be temporary. >> how much closer to this move, it might cut down on some of the casualties and maybe the fighting won't be as intense? but does it get us closer to
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some kind of a deal to end the fighting? or we have one phase of the fighting that's now over? if troops are going to pull out? >> i don't think there will be a deal in the sense that we use the term, because what hamas wants and what i think is unlikely to achieve agreed to lift the blockade on gaza which has been in effect for many years. i just don't think that's like tloi occur. while israel may withdraw its forces from gaza, it will maintain the prior situation there. and israel has occurred in the past. there will be either a formal cease-fire or more likely a sputtering out of conflict that will erupt from time to time. chemo, that there are many
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different factions within gaza and hamas does not appear to have full control over all of them. >> one more thing. you know how difficult this work is to be a negotiator there in the middle east. secretary kerry has been criticized, has received some criticism. what do you see of the united states -- is there much more the united states can be doing at this point? >> well, of course, criticism is inevitable in almost any public position and it's absolutely inevitable for anybody in the middle east. keep in mind that there have been what i think have been 20 secretaries of states. numerous envoys. all american who have gone there, tried to resolve this problem over the past 65 years. and none have achieved the full outcome that we seek. that is an end to the palestinian-israeli conflict and a normalization of relations between israel and the arab
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countries in the region. so i think secretary kerry knows that criticism comes with the job and he's to be commended for staying at it in the face of the difficulties that have occurred. and our inability to bring it to an end. but i'll just make one point. the united states is the dominant military and economic power in the world. we have an unequalled capacity to influence the world, but we will never have the capacity to control everything that happens in the world. a lot of factors go into these conflicts. this is not something that should be viewed in isolation. there's turbulence throughout the middle east. there's several intersecting battles and conflicts, some ancient, some recent going on. so any notion that the united states has the capacity to completely exert control over what everybody does in the region is simply a fantasy. we should do the best we can to
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support those who are our allies and who share our values, but we can't control what everybody does and it should not be seen as an american failure because fighting continues in the region. >> former senator george mitchell, also former middle east envoy. sir, we appreciate your perspective. thank you so much. we have another major story developing this hour. one of two americans who contracted the deadly ebola virus has arrived on u.s. soil and is now in the care of doctors at emery university hospital. you are seeing video of dr. kent brantley earlier today getting out of that balance and walking into the hospital. we're learning that dr. brantley's family is about to visit him for the first time in that hospital. sarah, he walked into the hospital. a lot of us were thrown off by that. >> reporter: a lot of pleasant surprise for the medical
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professionals treating him here, t.j. no one expected dr. brantley to walk off of the plane. he's been battling ebola and they had this very detailed plan to get him here. he had taken a turn for the worse about 48 hours ago, so this is a huge shock. he is currently in a specialized isolation unit here at emery university hospital where doctors are evaluating his condition. they are here to provide supportive care for him. they are here to keep his body going and give it what it needs so he can develop these antibodies. right now there is no respirator or anything like that. it is there just in case. as for now, fluids, those sorts of things they can do safely without exposing any of the medical staff, any of the patients or visitors to the hospital. >> sarah dallof for us in atlanta. thank you so much. we'll continue to follow that story out of lanatlanta.
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bill for not having enough votes. the bill that passed provides money for national guard troops at the border and also makes changes to the 2008 trafficking law, making it easier to deport unaccompanied minors from all countries, not just those from mexico and canada. the house also passed another bill that would phase out the president's deferred action for childhood arrivals vote program that protects the so-called dreamers, kids who were brought here to this country illegally as children. neither one of those bills have any chance of passing in the senate. so, let me turn to nbc white house correspondent kristen welker. kristen, well, where does this leave the president? once again, to act on his own and once again, of course, doing so with folks in congress. >> reporter: the president indicated yesterday that he is prepared to act alone. he asked congress for $3.7 billion to deal with the border crisis. so it's possible the white house is beginning to be looking for
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some preexisting funds. but the president says he's also going to act alone on immigration reform. we know he has been meeting with advocates in recent weeks. they would like to see him take bold action and i am told that he's not shying away from that. among the things he's considering, a plan that would give legal protections for some of those who are here illegally, who are related to u.s. citizens, as long as they don't have any criminal history, any criminal background. this is something that could apply to millions of people, maybe as high as 5 million people, but in speaking with one white house people, i am told that no decisions have been made yet. this is going to be legally tricky, and that is one of the reasons why they are taking this so slowly. we anticipate that president obama will make a decision by the end of the summer or the fall. so this is doing that we're going to hear in the coming weeks. it will come just ahead of the 2014 midterm elections. that has some democrats who are facing tough re-election battles
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very nervous, but the broader calculation on the part of democrats is that this is going to be a big win in 2016. you'll remember that president obama beat mitt romney amongst latinos by 70% to about 20%, so they think that those margins are only going to solidify if president obama does take big, bold action on immigration reform. >> nbc's kristen welker for us at the white house. thank you, as always. president obama also raised some eyebrows at his press conference yesterday when he said this. >> in the immediate aftermath of 9/11, we did some things that were wrong. we dade whole lot of things that were right, but we tortured some folks. we did some things that were contrary to our values. >> the president bluntly reacting to a senate report on interrogation tactics following the 9/11 attacks.
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here. what does it mean? how does this change things now that it has officially been ruled a homicide? >> i think reverend al sharpton and the family think it is now an automatic indictment. but that's not the case. the video that you see there, they have to do some more investigating before they can determine to attach any criminal liability in this case. it's not an automatic -- you know, because this is ruled a homicide, now let's go get this officer and arrest him. there are some people here in new york city over the weekend wondering why this hasn't already been done, but due diligence has to be done here as well on behalf of that officer and the other officers involved. >> right there. that was my question. help us with that. we've got everybody that can see what happened in that video. the choke hold. the choke hold, the compression is what killed this man. so why no arrest? tell us what due process is? what is going on now to
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determine whether or not he should be charged? are the police handling this or the district attorney handling? >> i think both. i think the police are definitely investigating the case. i think what prosecutors are looking for now is the behavior of eric garner there. was he resisting? did he, in fact, contribute by resisting to his own demise? that's what the police union is saying, if he didn't resist, this tragedy wouldn't have happened. the family is saying the opposite. he did not have to be handled this way. obviously the police said that they were there to effect an arrest because he was selling individual cigarettes, against the law in new york city. a lot of folks are saying even for that kind of behavior, if he were guilty of doing that, was this physical confrontation necessary? you can see when eric garner throws his hands up as if to say let's have a conversation, let's not arrest me, let's have a
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conversation here. right before all of that happened, he says he was tired of them ha ras -- harassing him. sadly, his life ended that day. >> some people upset that that has now become a part of the story. but also today, part of the story is the officer, that very officer in that video who put him in that hold, has a background as well that was highlighted at today's press conference. >> that's correct. there's apparently a civil rights lawsuit that has been filed against this officer who is an eight-year veteran. had his badge and gun removed. there was a second officer who was reassigned in this case here as well. we don't know where that federal case is going to go. these gentlemen allege that this particular officer forced them to be strip searched in public. we have not been able to hear from the other side, so we'll have to see where that goes. but reverend al sharp on the did want to bring this to everyone's attention that this officer was
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mcconnell just ahead. with both candidates seemingly unable to decide where to debate each other. this is the closest thing voters get to a one-on-one face-off. the kentucky native joins me now from fancy farm. everybody has to show up. these candidates don't have an option. you have to be at this event. >> this is an annual event. the 134th fancy farm. you can hear the governor of virginia giving me a rousing speech. he took a picture of mcconnell and said this is the last time i'll see mitch mcconnell. the crowd really laughed about that. a very fiery speech here. mcconnell will speak, grimes will speak. people allowed to boo and jeer here. you'll hear a lot of boos when the big speeches start. >> you say all the booing and hissing goes on.
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but they still done have much to lose necessarily at this event unless you don't show up. >> reporter: yeah, the key is to show up and to seem tough and to give a fiery speech. because you're going to have your supporters here. your core is going to be here. you want to make sure your fire up your core. another thing you don't want to do is have the opponent so loud they drown you out. they told the audience today not to boo so loudly you can't hear the speeches. >> we talked about the senate race there with mcdonnell. are -- mcconnell. are we expecting to see rand paul? >> reporter: he's not only going to speak, he's going to bash alison grimes. he's promised he'll use poetry. some part of poetry part of his speech. that's going to br e an excitin thing. also going to talk about the fact that he wants to run for president. people are expected about seeing
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a presidential candidate from kentucky for the first time in a long time. >> you're trying to scream over the crowd there. i know that's tricky. perry bacon there for us. we'll continue to check in there. a couple of big headlines this afternoon, an american doctor who became effected with the ebola virus, he is now on u.s. soil. dr. kent brantley, this is him emerging from an balance at emery university hospital this afternoon. a second infected american in west africa is expected to arrive back in the u.s. within the next few days. also, moments ago, israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu announced israel is close to finishing its mission to destroy all known tunnels from gaza. he also said israel is prepared to con the fight in gaza as needed and hamas would pay a "intolerable price" if it continues to fire rockets into israel. still ahead, expensive
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gifts, expensive trips and a whole lot of finger pointing. bob mcdonnell and his wife are in the middle of a corruption try. they're accused of using their prestige for personal gain. is this just a salacious soap opera or a very public political lesson? we debate that. our brain trust is next. it's the yoplait greek taste-off and we are asking the music city which 100-calorie strawberry greek yogurt tastes best. this one is definitely the winner. yoplait greek 100! you want to see which one yoplait greek beat? chobani yes! yoplait greek wins again. take the taste-off for yourself!
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former ohio secretary of state. kim, let me start with you. some of the details we're hearing about, mcdonnell asking for $70,000, and meeting himself with his businessmen in the governor's office to discuss some of these specifics. what do you make of what we are hearing now from a guy -- this was a guy who was potentially a presidential candidate and really a major face of the party, a rising star in the party for so long. >> it's another sordid story. it's another chapter and a very comprehensive book, from sir elliot in new york to wild bill in the white house. this really does stink. >> do you hear anything in here that stinks to high heaven? not much surprises us. does anything surprise you about this one in particular?
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>> no, i think it's interesting that you have two very contrary stories, with one saying well, you know, the governor's wife was taking these things because she was in love with the giver. and the giver saying something completely different, meaning i would never give these types of gifts to anyone. we have seen this story play out over and over again, whether it's actual sexual immorality or affair or adultery, or just ethics challenges, and financial corruption. we've seen it play out aefr and over and over again. >> is there something to be learned here, a lesson to be learned? we're seeing someone that was a rising star. it's just remarkable. hasn't been found guilty of anything. but does this tell us anything, some lesson to be learned about political office, politicians and just how dirty and behind the scenes it can be sometimes? >> yeah. i mean, the human drama is
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incredible. but i think the kind of policy angle here is that virginia for a long time was one of the few states that had basically no ethics rules. you could give anything to public fishes. so mcdonnell thought he was on right within the law. his defense is saying he didn't realize he was breaking the law here and he didn't do any quid pro quo after this guy jonnie williams. so it's sort of the logical conclusion of the attacks that we're seeing at the supreme court and other levels on campaign finance laws. it's the logical conclusion of that. where wealthy people can influence people in office with gifts or donations to try to get favors for their company. it's obviously an extreme and brazen and almost comical version of it. but i think it does highlight where this could be going if we're not careful. >> let me switch to another gear here and what we saw in the house, republicans in particular do, in passing a couple of bills having to do with the crisis on the border. two bills that are going to go
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nowhere and everybody understands that. one of them passing almost $700 million to go towards border security. what did you make of it, and the strategy in doing so? because it had to be a strategy because everybody knew this bill had no chance of passing the senate and getting the president's signature. >> it appears to me that both sides were playing for the fall election and they were getting their talking points together and neither side was particularly interested in finding common ground to secure our borders and to bring some sense of safety, both to american cities and to the children that had been transported politically out of south and central america. one of the interesting things for me a picture, if you can just visualize the edge and the border of central america and mexico, and then go straight up
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land and hit the closest american city, it's about 1,200 miles. and you tell me that 8, 9, and 5-year-olds are getting up there by themselves with no food? this is crazy. this is an attack on our sovereignty. >> angela -- >> what? >> i was just about to bring you in here. you say an attack on sovereignty. i'll let you do the response. i know you want to get back in there, ken. >> i'm not even going to respond to that. what i will say is that the former secretary of state is dead-wrong here. this isn't about talking points going into recess. this is about a party, the democratic party being the big party. they had said from the outset, whether it was passing the dream control, or the border principles that they stood on throughout this congress, or the senate side passing a comprehensive immigration reform measure that the house refused to take up.
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this is about speaker boehner, them saying they are going to address immigration reform, and shortly thereafter, eric cantor saying they absolutely wouldn't. so much so that speaker boehner put this out on one of their principles, that children would not be punished for the mistakes of their parents. it's time to provide a legal opportunity for citizenship for children brought to this country through no fault of their own. what were they doing yesterday? everything yesterday flies in the face of this particular border principal. i'm sorry, you have it wrong. >> why an attack on sovereignty versus the humanitarian crisis? >> just think about it, what i just said, t.j. you have 5 and and 8-year-olds coming 1,200 miles with no food and no water. look, that's crazy. you would have to have the imagination of jonathan swift to believe that this isn't a well-orchestrated -- >> or the courage of harriet
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tubman, ken blackwell. i'm not going to let you do this today. >> excuse me. my message would be to those border governors. you know, while they play around in washington, do what's in your authority to protect your borders. >> alex, let me bring you back in here. we're seeing how the debate plays out. this led to some tense moments last night after republican congressman tom moreno from pennsylvania said this about democrats and the issue. let's listen. i'll bring you in here. >> you know something that i find quite interesting about the other side? under the leadership of the former speaker and under the leadership of the former leader, 2009 and 2010, they had the house, the senate, and the white house, and they knew this problem existed. they didn't have the strength to go after it back then. but now, they're trying to make a political issue out of it now. >> now, this led to minority leader nancy pelosi -- i think
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we have the video. she stormed over to him in congress in the middle of that speech and eventually shook his hand, but they had some pretty tense moments. we don't have that up for you there. but here it is. you can see it on the bottom -- you see it on the bottom of your screen. ended up eventually shaking his hand. but what are we to make of -- we talk about a crisis we have going on, but we don't seem to be able -- any of us to agree about what to do. and now congress is taking a vacation, or a summer break. nothing has been done on this issue, and kids continue to cross the border. >> yeah, i mean, it's incredible. i think that moment on the floor there with nancy pelosi, the leader of the democratic caucus, just underscores how emotional this issue has become, and how far we've come from the seeming consensus of just a year and a half ago, or two years ago after the 2012 election when the republican report said they need to embrace immigration reform. you have leaders like marco rubio coming out in favor of it.
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we can't even get this bill done before we go on recess. and the guy leading the opposition to the bill on the republican side, ted cruz in the senate, takes off the next day to go to iowa, and i think that kind of tells you, you know, everything you need to know about some of the political motivations here behind this, some of the people taking a hard line on immigration. it's an eye toward the election, an eye towards the next election towards 2016. >> all right, i'm going to have to leave it there. i'm not completely out of time, but i know if ken and angela -- if i get y'all back out in here -- >> you're absolutely right. >> i'm going to completely run out of time. >> you're absolutely right. >> i hope harry reid brings them back to washington. >> that's not going to happen. bye, ken. >> that's right. angela, alex, ken, i will talk to you all again real soon. >> thanks, t.j. new documentary in the works about the 5-year-old batkid who saved san francisco last year. the producer of that film coming up. and as we go to break,
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out. >> of course. bat kid needs car seat. it was a viral sensation. even president obama got involved. the film begins later this year. the film maker has launched a campaign to raise money for it. >> leahe's awesome. his sixth birthday is coming up this week. he's great. he's in remission now. he's going to start first grade. he's an awesome kid. >> that's a good update to hear. we know how big this story got. when did you realize you really had something here? >> a few days after the wish i had a meeting at the make a wish foundation. i asked them how, this is such an amazing phenomenon that so
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many people were impassioned by this and they told me how it happened. they really only wanted 200 to show up and 25,000 showed up and close to 2 billion people followed it online. when i heard about how this kind of spiralled out of control i was like i have to make this movie and nthey agreed. >> how is it you go from 200 to 25,000? >> that's the question. i think different people have different theories. at the core was a group of people. it started with three or four people and came close to couple dozen people who said i want to make this happen for this kid. i want to make it the coolest day ever. i think everybody kind of deep down went to their childhood of all they could imagine of things that would come big and huge and everybody went to that child like place and did it for him. i think that's how. >> you talked to miles parents. i want to play one clip of that and bring you in on the other
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side. >> wow. all these people aren't at work today. they took off to come watch our son parade around town and it was amazing to us to see the whole crowd at the at&t park. i still don't -- it's still surreal to me. >> their initial concern and always is going to be the health of their child but what do they think about tb he response and e responsibility to do something positive with this and pay it forward. >> for sure. i think they feel like it was a blip on the radar for their life. i think they were completely shocked by it. they live in a very rural town right on the border of oregon. they were hunting the week it blew up online and they came back and their phones were blowing up and they were like what on earth is this. they barely been to the city before. it was surreal to them. >> dana, we saw the end result.
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give me one thing we'd be surprised about how difficult. that one part was funny. bat kid had to be in a car seat. that's funny. give us one detail that would have to happen behind the scenes that we didn't see. >> one thing really funny is when lucille, the giants mascot would be kidnapped but he couldn't make it to his captor in time because there was so much traffic generated by the day. he had to jump into an uber and get there and then the uber had to get a police escort to get him so he could be kidnapped. >> we're going to see all that stuff in the film. how much of it is done? how much do you have left? and how much fund raising do you have to go? >> we're finishing up shooting now.
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we're shooting the san francisco mayor next week and we'll be done. then we will make the bells and whistles happen and the sound track and that's the stuff that's expensive. we're trying to raise $40,000 more to do so. sg how much have you raised so far? >> 60,000. it's crazy. just like the day when people came together for this, i think people are coming together for the film. we're so excited and hon noored be making it. >> she's a heck of a film maker. it's so good to talk to you. congratulations on everything. we know it's going to be great film. you'll reach your fund raising goals. >> thank you. >> we're getting close to the top of the hour. thank you for watching. i'll be back tomorrow starting at 3:00 eastern time. everybody have yourselves a
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