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this unusual problem. hey there, everyone. welcome to "weekends with alex witt." we have developments of the first ebola person from the united states to enter the united states. the foreign aide worker is at emory university hospital in atlanta. he walked off an ambulance. >> it's enkoushlging thcouragin seems to be improving and we're hoping that he'll continue to improve. ebola is a scary disease because it's so deadly. the planned fact is we can stop it from spreading in hospitals and we can stop it in africa. >> we know that brantly's wife, who is seen here in this undated photo on this samaritan's
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purpose's website has visited him along with his mother and father and sister. the plane is on its way back to liberia to pick up nancy writebol. dr. nancy snyderman is joining me. good morning to you, dr. nancy. we were watching the doctor walk with that minimal assistance. why did that impress you so much? >> well, i think it was stunning because we expected, as is usually the case, for a patient to be transported from an ambulance to a hospital on a gurney. and i think they did it this way for a couple of reasons. obviously dr. brantly was strong enough to walk 20 yards and it minimized the press getting any shots from him. i thought about this a lot overnight. we saw two people in suits. one, the person to the left was the health care worker and dr. brantly to the right. i don't believe they put him in that suit because he was a risk. i think they put him in that
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suit so there would be no external pictures from him and it afforded him patient privacy. i suspect there was a gurney inside that back door and he was put on it right away and then taken into isolation. >> brantly seems to be improving but qualified it by saying that ebola is such a deadly disease. how do you interpret that? >> here's where i would implore emory university to come out and demi demystify people and take a lot of the scare away. we know that he was stable enough to walk. we know that dr. brantly is in isolation but we also know that ebola is a killer. the death rate is somewhere between 60 and 90% most of the time. if you can get past and into the second week, your second chance of surviving is greater. however, tough make sure that the kidney doesn't fail, liver doesn't fail. and little things like the
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ability to clot and have good blood, that's a problem. so they are monitoring all these things very carefully. if any of those systems go, it can mean the demise of someone. so he's not out of the woods but i think we're all quite buoyed by what we saw yesterday. >> we were. you mentioned the blood. dr. brantly received a unit of blood from a child that he treated for ebola. what could you suggest about how that might have impacted his chance for recovery. >> platelet counts drops and patients will hemorrhage inside and out. when platelets drop, you can't make clots. your blood gets thinner than it should. a 14-year-old, whose life dr. brantly saved, gave him a blood transfusion. i would assume that was to bring his blood count up and to give him platelets. where his picture stands right now, we just don't have any word.
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but you want to prevent that sort of end stage hemorrhage from even starting. because if that happens and you start oozing from everywhere, then you really nudge closer to death. so the doctors really want to make sure that from a clotting standpoint he's beyond stable. >> dr. nancy snyderman, appreciate it. >> you bet, alex. developing news also in gaza today. some israeli troops are fighting. outside of the united nations school, thousands of civilians are seeking shelter as israeli shelling pounds southern gaza. they discovered a stash of 150 mortar bombs in southern gaza. the army confirmed it's scaling background operations and could soon complete its mission to
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eradicate hamas' tunnels in israel. it appears that a diplomatic solution is off the table. >> so is there a military solution to the hamas problem? >> yes. and israel is working right now to degrade the capability. >> degrade? can you eliminate hamas? >> you can. there's a cost for any action that you have. >> and is israel willing to pay it? >> we live in a very, very unstable region. >> let's go toll tel aviv and martin fletcher is standing by. what is being said about the ground offensive and its status? >> reporter: well, it's confusing signals because they are not saying anything official but it appears that the israeli army is beginning to withdraw in large numbers from gaza. the army says that some of the soldiers are being sent home to rest and we've been seeing the
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troops coming out and tanks moving outside of gaza. but there is a report that israel will maintain a force inside gaza, about a kilometer or so inside gaza, the length of this trip, because apparently not only do we want to do so for security reasons but as the army went into gaza, on the way it it destroyed large parts of the fence between israel and gaza. that needs to be fixed. that may be one practical reason why they need to keep that space. but certainly it seems that the main israeli ground invasion of gaza seems to be over, troops pulling out, israel told residents in the north they could go back. the main fighting now appears to be in the southern area in rafa where the israeli soldier was captured and now the israeli army has confirmed that he has been killed. in that fighting and you mentioned earlier in your introduction, the u.n. school was attacked.
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what happened was two motorcyclists were driving by and israel fired a rocket at them just outside of the school killing ten people. palestinian refugees wounding more and a very strong condemnation by the u.n. secretary general ban ki-moon. he called it a moral outrage and a criminal act. they are vepthiinvestigating wh happened. as a cease-fire was called for, the other elements there, speaking for the palestinians, israel is not there. israel is not taking part directly in those talks. the hope is that -- the belief is that when israel has completely finished its destroying the towns as they swore they would do before leaving, that could be another day or so, the israelis say, they will pull out more fully and hopefully at that point will then begin to take part in those talks in cairo.
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probably not directly but indirectly. but having said all of that, prime minister netanyahu has been saying that israel maintains all options on the table. that same phrase, all options are on the table, he says, and one thing he did, he was emphasized by an israeli spokesman, when this is all over, israel will go back or can go back to the policy of assassinating hamas leaders. alex? >> okay. martin fletcher, thank you very much for that. i want to go over a couple of numbers, everyone. we're getting this from the health ministry. 80 rockets were fired since midnight. that's a total of 3,000, close to 3200 rockets that have been fired. meanwhile, all of this fighting has sparked protests around the world. in fact, yesterday from the white house to london to paris and tel aviv, also south america and asia, protests have gathered there. the majority of them in support
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of gaza calling for an end to israel's military operation. on the heels of that, joining me now, colonel peter learner. colonel, thank you for joining me. >> okay. >> let's talk about the report today that the idf troops are withdrawing from gaza at least in part. can you tell me what the status of that mission is right now? >> yes, absolutely. the idf is currently redeploying, regrouping and preparing itself for further orders. a huge amount of our forces have actually left the gaza strip. indeed we have urged some of the palestinians to come back to the neighborhoods where we were actually operating. we still have activities on the ground to try and combat and sever these tunnels which are intended to carry out attacks against us and we haven't completed that task in whole but we are continuing to do that operation and the rest of the
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forces are downsizing, taking the forces outside the perimeter, regrouping and preparing themselves for the process. >> colonel, when you say regrouping, does that mean coming back likely with the same numbers of troops in terms of the ground assault or does regrouping mean a diminishing of the numbers? >> we're downsizing those troops at the moment. indeed we still have a substantial amount of force on the ground. we haven't completed the task at the moment so there's a need for forces on the ground in order to be both safe and be able to engage the enemy, be able to engage hamas terrorists and combat those tunnels which are still a huge threat. >> can you put into context, sir, how huge those threats remain? it's been a goal to eradicate them. can you give me a percentage of
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how much has been destroyed out of those tunnels? >> well, we've exposed approximately just over 30 tunnels of such and dealing with each and every one of them with our bombs disposal unit, with our engineers is a huge task because each individual tunnel has its own root, an artery with veins that come out of it. indeed, there's a need to study each and every tunnel itself in order to try and deal with each and every tunnel. the last few days we've completed, last night, the night before we increased and carried out a number of detonation of these tunnels. we have a few left to deal with. we can expect that to be over in the coming days, if everything goes as planned. a couple of terrorists come out of the hole and blow themselves up and kill a couple of soldiers, that puts -- >> from a diplomatic sense, sir, israel decided not to go to
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egypt for the peace talks. is the plan now to finish the mission militarily, eradicating the tunnels on your own terms? >> well, speaking on behalf of the military side and not necessarily the diplomatic side, we have to make sure that the state of israel is safe. we have to make sure that these indiscriminate rockets do not land on our cities. just two hours ago we had another barrage to the heart of tel aviv. that is what we have to do. we leave the diplomacy to our politicians, to our leadership. the military has to be focused on the defense issues, they still have 3,000 rockets that can strike israel. this is a reality that we are concerned about. we will continue to carry out our mission as the government
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orders us to. we will have boots on the ground for as long as required and we'll continue our strikes against hamas, who have -- they have to be paralyzed as an organization, pursue these individuals and the operatives, they have to be threatened as well. >> lieutenant colonel, an air strike occurred at a u.n. school in rafa. do you know what happened? >> my initial inquiry into this incident is we were targeting and successfully targeted two or through militants on a motorcycle moving at a quick speed. we're investigating the outcome and circumstances of this strike but we know that we got our target. we have to see what happened in the aftermath and the surroundings. >> the united nations have estimated 75% of the casualties
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in gaza are civilians. are you satisfied with a 25% success rate? >> well, we have to be very cautious. they are based on hamas ministry of health figures and we have to not embrace them with such ease. we are aware of hundreds of terrorists that we have killed in action, confronted and engaged. indeed it is an extremely hard task operating in this densely populated area in gaza. >> uh-huh. >> we are -- we do not intentionally target civilians. we do everything that we can possibly do in order to limit that. how the terrorist organization will abuse and exploit every -- >> but, no. that's all right. and i understand what you're saying, as do many people who are watching this broadcast. but i'm asking you, as one of the most advanced militaries in the world, if you think israel
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can do better to minimize casualties. >>. >> so what we are doing when we are carrying out these attacks, strikes, targets against these terrorists and when there are civilian impact, when there is a civilian impact, when there are casualties, we are reviewing each and every case. indeed, this is a huge task that every western military today is looking at us trying to learn how we do this. because on a comparative level, when we -- when our colleagues were not -- indeed, allies are not carrying out similar tasks across the world, they are also faced with the same kind of difficulties that our military has. indeed, we do the best to try and learn from our mistakes. it is a battlefield. there is obviously battle when terrorists and such hide behind
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u.n. emblems and should rockets from the courtyard of schools, mosques, it's a huge, huge challenge that's our enemy is trying to take full advantage of in order to put his civilians at risk. we have a challenge of defending our civilians. that's what we use our weapons for. unfortunately, they use their civilians to try and defend their weapons. >> general, appreciate you taking our questions. from the military to diplomatic front, a new look at the strains between president obama and netanyahu and why a cease-fire agreement may have pushed them farther apart. and nearly 500,000 people are toledo are being told not to drink their tap water and not even to bathe in it. what could cause that?
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your leaders are not safe. that's the message that israel is sending to the people of gaza. the messages directed people to tell the hamas leadership underground that the battle is ongoing. palestinian ambassador spoke about what he sees as the road to peace. >> if you put them in a continuing situation of resentment and hate, this is an excellent atmosphere for radical lichl. but if you give them hope, you open the borders, let them go to school, let them look for moderation, then we will succeed in allowing all of those who want to have peace between us and the israelis to have the upper hand. >> joining me now is diplomatic
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correspondent for "the washington post." ann, great to see you. should we write off a diplomatic settlement? is israel going to see this mission through first? >> yes. they are really at this point there is little chance of a negotiated cease-fire or temporary truce. the kinds of things that john kerry and ban ki-moon and others, the egyptians hosting talks in cairo have been trying to bring about in the past few weeks. what we're hearing from israel in the last 24 to 48 hours is that this conflict will end when israel decides that it has accomplished enough of its military goals. in other words, it will end on israel's terms and israel sees no chance for a temporary truce. hamas would come away with something from that negotiation. >> what about what we were just
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hearing from "meet the press" from the ambassador, open the borders, foster goodwill that way, any chance of that? is there wisdom there? >> no chance of israel backing off from its blockade from gaza or egypt backing off from its blockade in the near term. what the world community has been trying to do here and thus far unsuccessfully is a two-part operation. stop the fighting in the near term and to open a conversation in the longer term about how to begin to address some of the humanitarian and economic and just, you know, pure life issues that are -- that are stopping the residents of gaza from really being able to participate in the world beyond their borders.
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and that is a conversation that will have to take place at some point. but israel's response now is that now is not the time. we are going to accomplish military goals first. and please do not moralize to us about what might come after that. >> anne, in your latest article, part of what you write is "the collapse of a hard-won cease-fire in the gaza strip after obama a few hours friday lessens the already-limited american leverage to end israel's longest and most deadly war since president obama took office. the pressure on israel to limit civilian casualties is misplaced." . was it some sort of a tipping point on friday? >> yes. what happened is that what limited leverage the united states had at that point to bring israel around to ban
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ki-moon and others thinking about it is that enough had been done. they simply had to stop the ground offensive and aerial bombardment. that leverage went away. all israel had to do was point to what happened within 90 minutes of the cease-fire being declared, which is that israel abided by it, at least initially, and hamas did not. and israel's response to that is, okay, so we told you so. we -- you know, we said that they are not a negotiating partner and we have agreed to go along to this point to a negotiation but no further. >> uh-huh. >> and the other thing that happened was the apparent capture reported capture at the time of an israeli soldier. any time there is even the possibility of an israeli soldier in hamas hands, then the -- sort of the world
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pressure for israel to bargain with hamas has lessened. as it turns out, israel has declared that soldier dead but there was a question about how israel would respond to that and the united states, the obama administration is love to be seen as pushing israel too far, particularly in that situation. >> absolutely. yesterday i spoke with israel's forei foreign minister and i asked how he would describe his relationship with the united states right now. here's what he said. >> we have an incredibly warm, open, and close relationship with the united states. nobody is under any illusions to the fact that the united states is our best friend. we are acutely aware of a deep sense of support and partnership that emanates from the united states of america and we're very appreciative for it. >> in your experience, anne, is that accurate? >> yes.
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two things can be true at the same time. the united states and israel can have a relationship of unparalleled closeness and the united states can apply pressure to israel in many ways, that being the only world power that can do so. and the experience of the last couple of days, israel has been pushing back on that pressure. in fact, the associated press has reported on friday that netanyahu said directly to officials, don't push me. >> stop testing the tone to that conversation that we hear. >> yeah. we reported as well that this is of a piece with israel's reaction to the collapse of the cease-fire in which it said, we will do what we feel we must and we will stop when we decide to stop. >> anne gearen, thank you so
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testing that there were these microcysts in the water. we have tests to ensure that we have safe drinking water and because that level was higher than what we should have. we pulled this plug and said no more water. no water to drink. >> so here we are in the second day. how bad is it today? are things improving? >> well, it is improving, as you said earlier in the beginning, that we did get one test result back that looks like we're on the right track. we're just waiting for some more confirmation about that. also, we have that in place and the distribution of water and other things that people might need if they are not able to get. we have those set up. it's a better day in terms of addressing this -- you know, this issue here. >> yeah. and do you have any idea when this is going to be fixed, when the problem will be over? >> well, we're waiting -- we're waiting for those other lab results and once we get them,
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we'll make a decision as to what our next steps are. and we're hoping, we are hoping that we'll know some more information later on today. >> yeah. i know there's been quite a run on the water, bottled water on stores. we're looking at people, families taking as much water as they can possibly carry away from the stores. have those stores been restocked? >> yes, they have. in fact, many of them were able to restock last night. we've had great responses from our corporate partners in that some of them restock their shelves and others brought water that we could distribute to residents throughout the city and the county area. >> all right. well, best of luck to you. the president of toledo city council, paula hicks-hudson, thank you. >> thank you so much. a senior white house adviser says it's not totally implausible that republicans could make an impeachment attempt against president obama, especially in light of last week's push for a lawsuit.
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>> the possibility that congress would consider an impeachment. >> you really think they would consider an impeachment? >> i think it would be foolish to discount the possibility. >> joining me now, representati representative jan, a democrat from illinois. i want to talk about the minimum wage challenge that you took. first, do you think a gop impeachment attempt is a legitimate concern for democrats? >> oh, i have no doubt that it is. the right wing of the republican party, which is really dominating the agenda, i think it is ready and willing to go to impeachment and i believe that john boehner and others are
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doing the surrogate for that as keeping their tea party wing to be by a lawsuit. i want to tell you, if i think the senate were to go impeachment is on the agenda. >> okay. i just say wow to that. you and your colleagues took a minimum wage challenge. what was that like? >> well, i'll tell you, you learn a lot by trying to do that about what $7.25 means and what it really means, alex, is that it is impossible to live on that. particularly if you have children. it is just not enough to be able
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to drive food, to drive your car. and it means if one thing goes wrong, if you blow a tire, if you have to go to the dentist, you are absolutely not going to make it. there is no room for error and there is no spontaneity. >> if you're a tip worker, that wage plummets to $2.13 an hour. >> think about that. $2.13 an hour for people who are supposed to get tips that bring them up to $7.25 an hour? >> you can't count on that. >> you cannot count on that. the employer is supposed to make up the difference, often doesn't, and it hasn't been raised for 20 years. but even the minimum wage, $7.25, is about what buying
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power there was in 1968. it is impossible. and yet we left for the august recess without raising the minimum wage $10.10 an hour, over three years. so even that is not a living wage but it certainly would give 28 million americans a raise. that's what americans need right now, a raise. and the republicans are completely unwilling and even mocking this effort to try and experiment with living the minimum wage and i say to them, you try it. >> yeah. well, i want to talk about a picture that you tweeted of your live the wage menu. the food items you were able to afford during this challenge, could you deviate from this list at all? >> look, if you want a really good amount of fruits and vegetables that is good for your health, it's very hard to do that. we had a bag of apples that lasted the week, a small bag. we had a couple of tomatoes and
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a bag of romaine lettuce that we very carefully used for during the week. it is hard. during the summer where school lunch and breakfast programs are out and families are having to feed more kids, it's really not doable in a healthy way. >> quickly, as we go into the midterm, do you think this issue is going to be a hot topic, minimum wage debate? >> i think it's absolutely going to be important but i think the disparity between the wealthiest americans who are cow-towed, too, by republicans and then those struggling with jobs and trying to make them, two-thirds of minimum wage jobs are women. they have more reason to get out and vote. this is going to be an issue. this income disparity and the need to give americans a raise
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there's obama one thing that barack obama managed to keep his grip on power. he needs the usa. >> one of us just wants six more years and yet another term while one of us knows kentucky deserves better. >> senate minority leader mitch mcconnell and alison lundengren grimes. >> kentucky is under attack from barack obama's administration and we need to fight back.
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and they know as long as they can hold the senate with their kentucky candidate, they can do whatever they want. >> you don't care about us anymore. thanks to you, d.c. stands for doesn't care. if mitch mcconnell were a tv show, he'd be stuck in 1968. we need a representative who represents the people of this state. >> here's the latest poll. senator mcconnell holds a 4 point lead. it's a close race. let me bring in columnist dana milbank. hi, dana. >> hi, alex. >> is senator mcconnell's
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political money machine enough to overcome his opponent's local political bloodlines? >> it's become a bigger race than many expected and that's because mitch mcconnell is extremely unpopular. if barack obama were more unpopular in kentucky, grimes would be in a commanding position right now. look, he does have a commanding political operation there. and it's hard to see how he gets toppled in the end. but what this is causing is the republicans are having to spend a lot more money and attention there and it's distracting from their efforts to take over the senate in the rest of the country. >> do you think control of the senate could hinge on this race, republicans looking to win back the majority? how much is at stake and could this race determine the balance of power? >> it could hinge on this and half a dozen others. republicans have to run the table here and win enough seats without losing a single one or
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if they lose a single one, then they have to gain that back by gaining another. so attention is being focused on a half dozen, eight senate races across the country. this is actually closer than any in arkansas and north carolina, louisiana, alaska the people thought would be tighter. in the end, it's really hard to see how the sitting minority leader in the united states senate is toppled but stranger things have happened. >> absolutely. rand paul recited a poem about lundergan grimes. listen. >> to liberals she whispers, in kentucky she claims coal makes us tick. to the liberals she sells her soul, the same ones who hate kentucky coal. >> that's got to be so hard to listen to all of this stuff.
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you're right there in the room. senator mcconnell, when he was being called a mad man, he was getting mad. senator paul is criticizing lundergan grimes. how valid is that criticism? >> first of all, we have to give rand paul some credit. it appears that he wrote this poem because of the quality of the rhyme. he didn't borrow this poem from anybody else, it would appear. it started out and ended as a dr. seuss. >> okay. >> so, is it effective to say she's an outsider, a hollywood liberal? yes, that's the standard republican playbook out there and, of course, she's getting money from out of state. so is mitch mcconnell who is deeply unpopular in his own state. i don't think it's going to work for him to say she's some sort of a carpet bagger.
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coal is a powerful issue there for the same reasons that the republicans have problem in west virginia and appalacha. that's going to be a grag on her. >> dana, thank you. >> thanks. the immigration crisis hits home far from the mexican border. one mayor offered to make her city a hub for undocumented children. that to get through the rest of these dishes. i want more suds! dawn? you won't last. a drop of dawn ultra has active suds that stay stronger longer, so you can clean 2 times more greasy dishes to get the job done. you're full of suds after all. now drop and give me twenty spaghetti bowls! dawn does more. so it's not a chore.
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one city in new york is at the center of an immigration debate when a senator was asked if syracuse could be used as a hub for undocumented children. she wrote, "as a city with a rich i am grant tradition, we feel strongly these children should be welcomed and protected. syracuse would welcome the opportunity to provide shelter with the larger global issues causing them to leave home for such an arduous journey are is
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he solved." do you know whether syracuse will be used for undocumented children? >> we don't. as of two weeks ago, we were told that the congress passed its initial assessment and it was going to be moved up for further assessments. right now the government is doing an overall needs assessment for what the needs are that they are going to have. obviously this is complicated by the fact that there is no immigration solution that has been put forward by the congress. >> were you surprised by the anger that your decision to take up the president's offer was solicited? >> you know, i wasn't. this situation brings a lot of drama to it but most of the people in this city are positive of it. my family came to syracuse and we have current immigrantses
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coming from around the world. it's been a net positive experience. there are people who are scared because of the misinformation that has been deliberately thrown around and as fanciful of ebola coming over and as questioning as, what is the facility going to look like? we don't want to have a prison in the middle of a residential neighborhood. i think this is part of a great democracy when people are able to air their opinions. i've been to hundreds of them. this was an overall positive two meetings where there was a lot of emotion but information that was able to be exchanged as well. >> i notice that you told the associated press that you could house between 100 and 200 children. one resident at your town hall asked how would you ensure that the kids don't fall into the community. they are tough questions. >> they are, but we have the answers to them. and the answers are that 85% of these children get placed with a family member, a sponsor as they
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go through the immigration process. and when we talk to people who have similar type of facilities around the country, they have never had any bad public safety issues. when you know that these are children, some have walked 300 miles to come across the border to escape violence, what i ask people to remember is this is what makes us proud to be americans, that we take what is written on the statue of liberty very meaningfully. we want to be a place where we can have aa respite as the issus get waded out. >> the negative response, there are a number backed up initially by wanting to ask questions. what about the public safety issues in what about potential public health issues? and when you say there there haven't been in other communities or when you talk
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through the facts, those issues get instantaneously. there are people who have negative responses and when you say that these are children escaping gang members, they will say to you that they are lying or they read something on the internet. overall, it's been a way for us to remember how each of us got here and to offer a place of safety and compassion for these children and to say that this is what makes us so proud to be americans, that we step up to challenges like this, that we offer help for people who need help. >> stephanie miner, great to talk to you. thank you so much. >> thanks for having me. it's been 40 years since the nixon administration. how the disgraced president plays in his own words. they're irresistabowl... completely unbelievabowl... totally delectabowl. real silky smooth or creamy broths. everything she's been waiting for. carefully crafted with real seafood,
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new air strikes, new turmoil as israel says it is scaling back in parts of gaza but will there really be less fighting?
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the american doctor with ebola shows improvement. watch this. >> americans cannot resist psychoanalyzing because they think i'm a complex and therefore interesting person. >> former president richard nixon almost 40 years after his resignation. why did he decide to record himself so much? a new documentary has some answers. hey, everyone. welcome to "weekends with alex witt." here's what is happening right now. scaling back. the israelis say that they are nearly complete with the mission to destroy hamas' tunnels. i spoke with colonel peter lerner in the last hour. >> indeed we've urged some of
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the palestinians to come back to some of the neighborhoods where we were actually operating. >> but in southern gaza, the situation is much different. an air strike in rafah killed at least ten people outside of a united nations' school where thousands were seeking shelter. >> israel absolutely has the right to defend itself and we are israel's staunches ally but you cannot condone the killing of thousands of children. >> ban ki-moon calling for the strike a moral outrage and criminal act. what's been the response in israel? >> reporter: well, israel said they would investigate the incident. and that's what they say -- what they've said, by the way, every time there's been some kind of a tragedy in the u.n. school. what happened today, according to eyewitnesss at the school,
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was that a couple of men were driving by on a motor bike and they were hit by an israeli rocket. they were killed. but the damages from that explosion, shrapnel killed ten people and refugees were injured who were seeking shelter. that's what called the secretary general's strong response. i haven't heard, i don't think, such a quit response from the secretary general. over the last two weeks, the number of u.n. employees who have been killed is up to nine. >> with regard to the reaction by israelis, just the average citizen that you're seeing there, to word of a scaled-back operation, what are they saying? >> well, it's very mixed. we were all saying the israeli public is 90% behind the
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invasion, behind the government. there's a strong opinion which believes that israel has made a big mistake in pulling out of gaza and that they should continue and destroy hamas and otherwise the fighting will simply resume in the near future and there's those in the middle and the growing left who say israel should get out and maintain a defensive line along the borders. israel is pulling out at this moment without any agreed cease-fire with hamas. and that just really raises the possibility that the fighting will continue. there's nothing to stop hamas firing, continuing to fire rockets into israel. israel would then respond with rockets from the air and the prime minister said all options are on the table. the army, although it's beginning to pull out of gaza, will remain in the area in case there's more fighting to do. so it's a very messy end. i'm not even sure we can call it an end. it's a very messy stage that we
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are in. the prime minister regrouped the army. we have to see whether it's a beginning of the end of the war in gaza or simply a pause while israel looks at what is happening in cairo, you know, the cease-fire negotiation in cairo. so we're just -- >> i was just merely agreeing you with. thank you very much, martin fletcher. well, the crisis in the middle east sparked protest from the white house to london to paris and tel aviv, also south american asia calling for an end to the military operation. sharply pointed words were aimed at president obama due to the lawsuit imposed on the fellow republicans. kristen welker is joining us from the white house. what is the new talk today? >> alex, good afternoon to you.
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representative king saying that president obama should be impeached. this is interesting, alex, because if you look at it in the broader context, republicans have really been trying to shelve this issue. they say it's a loser for them. democrats have been fanning the flames of impeachment, raising millions of dollars this past week and really trying to rally the base but today congressman steve king said he's steerious about it. take a listen. >> if the president has simply decided that he's going to enforce any immigration law, or at least against not anybody except for the felons, this is a broader group of people. i think congress has to sit down and look at the constitution and that is the word that we don't want to say and i only say that on this program because i want to encourage the president, please don't put america into a
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constitutional crisis. please don't do that. there's too much at stake in this country to be deciding that you can take over the constitution and write it that well. >> reporter: now, senior adviser to the president dan pfeiffer was asked whether they are using this as a political football. he said it would be foolish not to think that house republicans could actually move forward with impeachment. the reality is, alex, it's very unlikely that that is going to happen and this underscores this idea for a lot of people that this is a so-called do nothing congress. as we've been reporting on all weekend, they left on friday without taking any meaningful action on the crisis at the border. that's the issue that they have been railing about for weeks, alex, and their record is dismal. the 113th congress has passed 142 bills so far. compare that to the congress before it which had passed 151 bills at this point. that was a record low, by the way. >> that was the previous
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do-nothing congress. >> right. the first do nothing congress was coined by harry truman and passed 900 bills. pretty stunning record there. >> absolutely. now to an encouraging development out of atlanta where a foreign aide worker being treated for ebola at emory university hospital appears to be doing better. kent brantly appears to be showing signs of improvement. sara james is outside of the hospital. what are you hearing about how he is doing? >> reporter: we saw dr. brantly walking out of the ambulance and the news since then continues to be positive. we're told his condition is improving. however, since we heard that, the family has now requested no further updates be given out on his condition. so that is the latest information that we have and may be the latest that we get for some time. no press conference or formal statement planned for the day at
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cannot resist psychoanalyzing because they think i'm a very complex and, therefore, interesting person. >> that is the 37th president speaking in a new hbo documentary called "nixon by nixon in his own words." he was disgraced in the words of certain impeachment. there were recordings made by nixon from 1971 to 1973. joining me is director of "nixon by nixon" and ken hughes, lead researcher on the film. gentlemen, thanks for joining us. >> thanks for having us. >> i'm going to toss it to you, peter. as you listen to what president nixon said about himself, that he was paranoid, he was. >> he was definitely paranoid. the film begins by nixon saying, we were obsessed by secrecy. he grew up in a cold war era
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where his role was to keep secrets. he would be the first to kind of admit to his paranoia. he said it was true. >> all of the trouble that these tapes cost him, why the president chose to record himself in the first place, he addresses that and as does john erlickson. >> it was the purpose of having it for the record. everything was voice activated which, of course, was probably stupid. >> historians are going to grab an hour of tape when these tapes come out and if you listen to a snippet of tape, kroyou're goino form an impression of this man which will be wrong. so hopefully a historian will listen to you will a of the tapes and then come out and say richard nixon was the strangest
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collection, the strangest paradoxal combination. >> he embodies so many contradictions. there is great vision regarding foreign policy. he's a master of the global chess game. at the same time, he could be the most petty imaginable and the tapes really capture it all. they work as a wonderful time machine. so for this 30-month period, february 1971 to july 1973, when nixon is doing incredible things. he's doing the diplomatic opening to china, negotiating the first nuclear arms control agreement with the soviet union, extricating the u.s. from vietnam, winning a landslide
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re-election for generations. >> ken, i want to pick up on that. that was the public side. as you well know and as we all will know by watching this documentary, president nixon swears he makes these bigoted comments that are absolutely cringe-worthy but what is revealed is how one message was given to the public and the other was given behind the closed doors. when you think about that, the fact that he recorded everything, did that expose him to criticism that other presidents would not have to suffer through. ken? >> definitely. that's one of the priceless things about the tapes. we know what richard nixon was up to during this time period and we don't really know what other presidents were up to before, with the exception of the tapes made by johnson and kennedy, who unlike nixon, were forethoughtful to have on/off switches. it wasn't a wall-to-wall voice activated system that president
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nixon had. we have a certain blind spot with regard to his successors that we don't have with nixon. >> when it comes to watergating, carl bernstein says, i suspect if you look at why people are seeking out information, it it is not for the attainable truth, it's for the ammunition to reinforce what they already believe. do you get a sense with the research you did for the film and putting it all together on the scandal, do you agree? >> i think that watergate -- the watergate period we witnessed the golden age of journalism, were journalists were on nixon's tale and challenging him with every step he took. what was most interesting for us was for us to use the press reporting to track nixon's tapes. so instead of using the tapes to go then and look at reporters, we reversed it. and what we would -- the day
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before a press story would come out, we'd hear nixon plotting against the press. and how he was going to spin a story. the next day we'd hear the press reporting the story and challenging some of his questions and the next day after that we'd hear nixon furious with the press and playing dirty tricks to kind of get back at them. i was in school. i was in college when the watergate scandal broke. i grew up on it and then had to wait 35 years to really dive in and listen to them. so -- >> let's listen to part of what he said during a news conference towards the end of his presidency. here's that. >> kwha is it about the television coverage of you in these past weeks and months that has so aroused your anger? >> don't get the impression that you aroused my anger. >> i have that impression. >> you see, one can only be
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angry with those he respects. >> does that tell how the press reacted to him, peter? >> there's kind of an embarrassed, kind of clawiness in the laughter there. nixon was never relaxed or at ease with the press but especially himself. i think everyone in the room felt it. he himself preached anger and hatred. they were -- they were part and parcel of how he made decisions every day. he went after the press in a very personal way and usually in kind of a dirty, below the beltway. i think everyone in that room understood it very closely and personally. >> in an interview after he left the office, the president talked about his legacy. here is that. >> what is history going to say? how is going to judge richard nixon on china, russia, vietnam,
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the supreme court, these things all made a difference. >> i initiated programs in the field of the environment, hunger, cancer, drugs that i think are very sound building blocks for the future. these are positive achievements. yes, there was watergate. the first president ever to resign the office. that's part of history. >> ken, you've written a lot about this president 40 years later. what is the state of his legacy? >> i think the state of his legacy is and is always going to be mixed. we know more about nixon than we did 40 years ago and we know more about his dark side. vietnam was one of his achievements. he deliberately prolonged that war because he knew if saigon went down it would shoot down his second term ability to win.
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he kept that war going through all four years of his first term even though he knew he couldn't win it and the result of that was the deaths of more than 20,000 american soldiers. that's a horrible legacy which we did not know 40 years ago and we know now. so with nixon, we know more than any other president and what we know is both more enlightening and disturbing. >> best of luck with this. it airs tomorrow night on hbo. >> thank you, alex. don't drink it, boil it, bathe in it. what is behind a water alert in one of ohio's biggest cities? now it's quicker and easier for you to start your business, protect your family, and launch your dreams. at legalzoom.com we put the law on your side. when folks think about wthey think salmon and energy. but the energy bp produces up here
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the israeli ambassador was on "meet the press". >> israel right now is working right now to degrade the capabilities. >> can you eliminate hamas? >> you can. there's a cost. >> is israel willing to pay it? >> israel has many threats. this is not the only threat that israel faces. we live in a very unstable region. >> joining me now is a retired colonel who flew over 120 combat missions. his latest book is "lords of the sky." welcome to you, sir. i want to draw on your perspective. can the military accomplish its mission better than it has been? the israeli military? >> fortunately or unfortunately, the way you look at it, there's a price to pay for that. you can't do anything these days without somebody capturing it on a cell phone or somebody filming it in some way and i think they were counting on this being under the radar.
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we were distracted in europe and ukraine owe other places and they were counting on being able to do whatever they wanted to do and now they can't. which is why i think they are running up against a pr battle that you can't solve with tasks or jets. >> so is there a solution to this and what does that look like? >> militarily, hamas was not going to be able to win. they can't. the arabs have been trying to do that since 1948. they can't. there's more to it, in this case, and israel cannot win this strictly militarily. if they were able to turn loose and roll through gaza and subdue the whole area but they can't do that. >> is there anything that israel can do to prevent the rebuilding of the tunnels that they are destroying right now? >> again, they could. this is my opinion but i think it's a lose-lose situation and israel has to realize if they cannot be turned loose to solve
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this militarily, that they have to solve it in another fashion. they have to sit down with the other people that live there. it has to be by the people who live there and have a vested interest in forming some sort of method so they can figure out how to live together. they share the same real estate. they always have, they always will. they have to learn how to live with each other. >> we're talked about a pretty confined space. were you surprised that hamas was able to make these tunnels and have them be so effective? >> not at all. it's urban warfare and they are good at it. it's 125 square miles and they have 1,500,000 people crammed into it. these are not people wearing uniforms. they are people who can blend in when they have to and when they need to. i've seen it all over the world. no, it doesn't surprise me that they are able to do it, which brings you to the military objective of destroying all of
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the tunnels and stockpiles and i don't think israel is ever going to be able to do it. >> you mentioned the public relations situation and the death toll in gaza nearing 1800, the u.n. says that 75% of the deaths are civilians. would you accept this level of civilian casualties from the u.s. military and would the world be expected to accept it? >> no, we wouldn't. we take great pride in our precision and ability to minimize every other type of death that there is except on the battlefield and what people need to realize is, when they are talking about this, it's no longer the gaza strip. it's like in the area where the plane went down in ukraine. people fight, people die, people who aren't wearing uniforms. unfortunately in this case, it's the women and kids paying the price. >> retired lieutenant colonel hampton, thank you so much
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. welcome back to "weekends with alex witt." thousands in toledo are told not to drink water. >> reporter: they waited for hours, desperate for drinking water. >> orderly fashion, please. >> reporter: a state of emergency after city leaders declared the tap water flowing into homes for 400,000 people was too dangerous to drink. this family left town, drove nearly two hours so their kids would be safe. >> we weren't sure if it was safe to bathe in the water. you turn on the news and we saw that water was going fast at all of the stores. we wanted to get some water as fast as we could. >> reporter: the scramble for water started just after 2:00 a.m. on saturday. lines at grocery stores went around the block.
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lake erie, a major source of drinking water for toledo, may have been impacted by a harmful algae. >> we're trying to err on the side of safety. >> reporter: a precious resource so often taken for granted, suddenly hard to find. miguel almaguer, nbc news. to the crisis in the middle east, the grim death toll has surpassed 1800. while the fighting continues, the talking has stopped. israel did not send envoys to egypt. they call for voices of moderation today. >> if you put them in a continuous situation of fighting and the resentment and hate, this is an excellent atmosphere for radicalism. but if you give them hope, open the borders, let them look for
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good jobs and moderation, then we will succeed in allowing all of those who want to have peace between us and the israelis to have the upper hand. >> joining me now is democratic congressman adam schiff. thank you for joining me. >> good to see you. >> we have a presentation of a hopeful picture from the ambassador, through moderation. does it have any hope, really, and does the united states have a role in pursing that? >> well, there is hope and i think we have made progress in terms of dealing with fatah and mahmoud abbas in the west bank. it's been a different story in the hamas-ruled gaza. israel has allowed in construction buildings, palestinians to improve the quality of infrastructure and life and they have used that material to build tunnels in which they can infiltrate israel
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and kidnap people. even if the relaxation of those restrictions has led to these tunnels, you can see israel's reluctance. the broader point is that at the end of the day, when this fighting is over, the only answer is a return to a peace negotiation and a two-state solution. that's the only way that this continual cycle is going to come to an end. >> you bring up a good point in that the supplies and resources being used to make tunnels, what could be done to discourage that. does it mean, perhaps, a change in leadership from the old to the new? do we get at all a sense that younger palestinians, that they are more amenable to peace, that it's almost a generational thing? >> i think that's certainly true of many palestinians that they don't want to fight the fight of their fathers. at the same time, others are backing further radicalized. if you look at the region more
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generally with these fighters flocking into the region, i'm an optimist and even though they are proved wrong all the time, i think there's a way to resolve this and that the israeli people and palestinian people can live side-by-side in peace. >> sir, the way you're talking about it, and things that have to be done to not have the younger generation become more radicalized, what is being done right now is only playing into that. it's a catch 22. >> well, that's unfortunately, exactly right. if you look at what has been going on in the west bank over the last few years, the economy has improved there, relations between israel and the palestinians has improved there because israel has a part there in mahmoud abbas. there is no partner in gaza and as a result, hamas has been increasingly marginalized, which is good, but this was hamas' way
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of reasserting its way and making it relevant again and it's been successful in that a very marginalized hamas is fighting against israel. what we have to do in discussions with our partners in egypt and jordan and elsewhere is make sure that the end of the conflict weakens hamas, that the people of gaza, as they should, blame hamas for the loss of lives and ruined infrastructure and we get to a model that is much more like the relationship with fatah in the west bank. you asked what can the united states do, and we can continue to play a role in helping the parties negotiate an end -- and i'm not talking about the cease-fire but to the broader conflict. >> so when it comes to trying to have a weakened hamas, does it make sense for the israeli military to see their mission through, to eradicate the
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tunnels and try to get rid as many rockets as possible but the question is, can the gazan people survive that? >> i think israel is getting close to the destruction of the tunnels and israel is going to have to stay in this fight until they do. after one cease-fire was rejected by hamas and another violated by hamas, that's not going to allow them to go forward. they can't risk another violation by hamas. hopefully they are nearing the end of the destruction of the tunnels. they have to make sure that hamas gets nothing for having started this war, that the people in gaza place the blame on hamas, as they should. and the only blame on the palestinian side is mahmoud abbas, because they've been willing to negotiate and work with israel. so i think it's very much in israel's interest to make sure that the f acatah and mahmoud as strengthens this, not hamas.
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>> i want to switch gears and talk about what was revealed this week after director of the cia john brennan's resignation has been called for. do you believe laws have been broken and do you believe the five cia staffers who do it should be prosecuted? >> it certainly looks like laws were violated. i'm going to wait until the independent review is completed in terms of what the accountability should be, whether they should be fired -- certainly i think some people should be fired. whether they should be prosecuted would depend on what their intent was. the fact that they used phony online identities to search these senate computers indicates to me that they knew what they were doing was wrong. so i think there's going to have to be some serious accountability here. in terms of the director, it really depends on whether the director was knowledgeable about this. i would hate to believe that he
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was since he protested so loudly and very vehemently about this. i certainly hope that's not the case. >> as you're well aware, the heart of this is at the issue of the report itself. here's the president on friday. >> even before i came into office, i was very clear that in the immediate aftermath of 9/11, we did some things that were wrong. we did a whole bunch of things that were right but we tortured some folks. we did some things that were contrary to our values. >> stark words for the first time. so what's next? >> well, those are the kind of words i was expecting the president to say after the release of the report but events may have gotten ahead of where they intended to be. well, i think that senator
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feinstein ought to fight to have much of this declassified as possible. the agency's often overly classify things which would cause no injury to the agency except for potentially embarrassing or not reflecting well on the agency and that's not a purpose for declassification. i hope that senator feinstein sticks to her guns. i'm confident that she will and i think it will be very important that this may be public, that we allow the american people to see what took place in their name and it will tell the world that we are not unwilling to disclose where we have made mistakes and take remedial action. it's important for us at home and abroad, even as it doesn't reflect well on one chapter of our history. >> all right, adam schiff, thank you. the prognosis for paul george after a horrific injury on the court. whew.
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new information on the devastating injury for paul george. he's undergone a successful surgery. ron mott, what are his chances for recovery? >> paul george has a pretty good prognosis. he's got a long recovery ahead of him and even though his mind may be able to deal with he can tended rehab, i warn you, this video is hard to watch. >> too fast for his own good. paul george shaken up. >> paul george's injury obvious, severe. >> paul george suffering what appears to be an injury. >> the kind where fans wonder if it's all over. george put that speculation to rest right away, even before surgery, promising, i'll be okay and back better than ever. former nfl quarterback who famously shattered his right leg
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in a 1985 game and never played again says he knows on twitter what george was going through on his back. pain. >> i've had people say to me, did it hurt? so i tell them to hang their foot off the curb and i'll drive over it with my car. it hurts like heck. >> reporter: george, a star with the indiana papers, suffered a lower compound fracture. >> this is the tibia, the bigger bone, this is the fibula, the larger bone. this bone has good blood supply, better than a ligament, it heals quicker. >> oh, my goodness. >> reporter: others have proven it. >> over the top. >> reporter: skier vonn broke
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her leg in the lead-up to the winter olympics. a long road with few guarantees about where it ends. basketball great larry byrd said the number one priority for everyone in the nba is for paul george's recovery. not speculating on when he will return. it's a very nasty injury but he's got a good opinion about it. >> thank you. >> you bet. new results about a poll about what the americans think about the conflict in the middle east. defiance never grows old. citracal maximum. easily absorbed calcium plus d. beauty is bone deep. but parallel parking isn't one you do a lof them.ings great. you're either too far from the curb.
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a new poll shows american reaction to the conflict in the middle east. nbc news/"wall street journal"/marist poll show 43% sympathize with israel. 43% are unsure. let's bring in joe watkins and
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jonathan alter, also the author of "the center holds." hi, guys. good to see you both. thanks for joining me. jonathan we see how americans are viewing israel right now. what is at the heart of president obama in terms of his view of israel. >> i think he's a strong supporter of israel and there's been a lot of trash talk about him partly because his middle name is hussein. this goes back to 2008, but if you actually look at the policy, it's been very steadfast support of israel even when he hasn't always gotten along so well with benjamin netanyahu. now, especially in the last few days he's been very supportive because he's made it clear and the israelis appreciate this, that it was hamas and the palestinians in gaza who violated the cease-fire and killed israeli troops. usually in those situations there's this kind of gray zone where you're not sure who
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violated the cease-fire. in this case we know. it was hamas, which is committed to destroying the state of israel and does not believe apparently in cease fires. >> my question though next would be how does the president balance being a loyal ally to israel with dealing with the palestinian situation. how effective can it be when it's perceived he has a strongs bias one way? >> i don't think the president is biased. i think he's tried to be even-handed about this. at thea anend of the day. israel has the right to exist. and on the one hand we want to see peace and many of us would like to see a two-state solution, the president realizes in this most recent conflagration that hamas is the one that's overstepped its bounds. and so israel is doing the right thing. israel is saying we've got to stop this -- these tunnels, these cross border tunnels and we're going to stick to that. of course, they're not eager to come back to the negotiation table. it would be great if we could
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get israel to come back to the table to talk with islamic jihad and the others but i think the president is just trying to have a steady hand in all this and working behind the scenes to see if he can bring both sides to the table. >> yeah. >> i was just going to say, alex, it's a little confusing i think for many americans, and we saw from that poll here. it makes sense to be even-handed between israel and the palestinian authority of president abbas. it makes no sense and can't make sense to be even-handed between israel and hamas. so people have to understand the distinction between the palestinian authority and hamas which is mostly in gaza. this is something that's eluded a lot of folks not paying close attention. >> absolutely. very good point there. hey, guys, i want to talk about the house republicans moving forward with their lawsuit against the president. here is what democratic congresswoman jan schakowsky told me in the last hour. >> the right wing of the
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republican party, which is really dominating the agenda i think is ready and willing to go to impeachment. >> joe, she has a point, doesn't she? while some moderate gop voices in the house might not want to pursue impeachment, the more extreme right wing voices, they seem to be calling the shots. >> they're not calling the shots here and it's not going to happen. speaker boehner said repeatedly that this is not going to happen, there's no -- nothing on the agenda to talk about impeachment. the president has not done anything to be impeached. there's no impeachable offense. this is clearly not on the table, and he said it, republican conference chairman has said it. a number of other republicans are saying it over and over again and it's not going to happen. >> quickly, why the lawsuit? jonathan a shot at that in 15 seconds. why the lawsuit? >> well, it's a symbolic effort, what they call impeachment light to show they think the president has overstepped his bounds. i think this phrase, impeachment light, since it was passed by
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the house of representatives is going to stick and cause republicans trouble -- some trouble in the fall and allow the democrats to raise more money. >> okay. jonathan, could you just say that's a wrap, got to go, bye. >> good job.
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