in the air, a second flight carrying an american diagnosed with an ebola on route right now to atlanta. i'll interview the doctor developing an ebola vaccine that could be ready for human years this year. mission accomplished. what was the mission? and at what cost? a spokesman for the israeli foreign ministry joining me live. senator rand paul in iowa in his party shirt, but our question this is more about his party. we'll frame the debate as republicans balance immigration and elections this tuesday, 5th of august. good morning, i'm jose kdia balart. a deadly insider attack on u.s. forces and others in

afghanistan. the military base west of the capitol. senior pentagon officials tell nbc news that three people are dead and 13 others wounded. most of the victims are reportedly americans. the wounds are serious and to expect the death toll to go up. they say a man dressed in an afghan army uniform opened fire. there's been a deadly attack on u.s. and other troops in afghanistan. at least three are dead, 13 wounded. we'll, of course, bring you the latest details as they become available. now to the morning's other big story. ebola. as we speak a specially equipped plane is in the air, could touch down in the next hour in atlanta. bringing an american woman diagnosed with ebola back to the u.s. for treatment. the plane carrying nancy writebol touched down in maine to refuel. they'll be treated at emery university hospital. both american patients received a second dose of an experimental drug called zmapp.

the developer said it provides a 100% survival rate in primates a day after the exposure. it's never been tested on humans. u.s. officials are taking the ebola outbreak really seriously. the health and human services secretary met with african leaders on the sidelines of the white house summit to talk about concerns and national security adviser susan rice said they have a handle on things here. >> the risk to americans is deemed by the center for disease control to be very low. this is not a disease that can be communicated by sneezing or airborne or food or water. it requires a degree of intimate contact. >> inside the cdc war room, all eyes on

let's talk about ebola fears here in the pus. the cdc testing those more than 20 cases or looking closely at, rather, more than 0 cases of possible ebola. like you said those have come back so far negative. things like malaria or influenza whose symptoms mimic the beginning signs of ebola. the only two confirmed cases of those of the patients flown into the u.s. nancy writebol and dr. kent brantly. >> thank you for being with us. i would like to bring in dr. anthony. the director of national institute of allergy and

infectious diseases. thank you for being with us. >> good to be with you. >> let's start with the experimental drug zmapp. how long do we know if the people will get better? >> we're not going to know. it's such a, you know, a small number of of people. two people and you cannot determine. we hope that their improvement was related to the drug, because, in fact, the cocktail of anti-bots, which is what the drug is. a cocktail of anti-bodies if it caused them to improve, that's good news. when you produce more of it. there's little in supply that would be beneficial to others. but right now when you give a person an administration where as other things are being done like fluid replacement et. cetera, it's difficult to determine whether the improvement was related to the drug. >> suggesting that it is but we're not 100% sure. >> and meanwhile your organization is developing an

ebola vaccine tested on monkeys successfully. where are you in the research process? how long before we'll know if it's effective on humans? >> well, the monkey study complete they look good. we'll be starting what we do phase one trials in normal human volunteers right here in the maryland area. which means we're going determine, in fact, it's safe and whether it induces a response you would predict would be protective. those studies will start by the end of september. they'll go on until likely the end of january. at that point, if, in fact, it is safe, it shows to induce the kind of response we're looking for, we'll rev up in going to the next larger phase trial. if that is successful, sometime hopefully by the end of 2015, we'll have some dozes in collaboration with pharmaceutical companies to be able to administer, at least on a experimental basis to people who put themselves at high risk

like the health care workers that are volunteering in the west african countries. >> and there is clearly a fear factor here in the u.s. we're just talking about the 22 cases that people think or suspect an ebola symptoms across the country. none confirmed to be ebola. how do we deal with this? because now the second patient is coming into the united states. it's just so controlled. what is your message to americans? the message is you've got to look at what evidence-based facts are. and the facts are that we know from considerable experience that this virus is only transmitted by direct contract with bodily fluids of a sick patient like blood, vomit, diarrh diarrhea, stool, and things like that. if that's the way it's spread. we have in the united states the capability of taking care of people who are sick as being man te manifested right now with dr. brantly and miss wright boll.

people need to understand that the situation in africa, which they see in the media, is totally different from what we have here in the united states. because their capability of taking care of individuals that preventing spread is really marginal, which is a reason why it's spreading this way in africa. which is not going to be the case here in the united states. >> thank you so much for being with us this morning. >> good to be with you. i want to get back to the breaking news that i told you about at the top of the hour. we're now learning one confirmed dead and a dozen more hurt. when a gunman opened fire at the coalition base very near the capital of afghanistan. the group mostly americans. we are live at the pentagon. what do we know about the attack and those shot this. >> as you can imagine, there's a lot of confusion over this incident in which we know that one high ranking u.s. military official was killed, and perhaps as many as one or two afghan

military officials also killed in the attack that wounded as many as a doesn't mozen more at afghan training facility. according to dod the americans were there for a meeting or demonstration with the afghan military to talk about the way ahead in training the u.s. military -- i mean, training the afghan military. when suddenly someone dressed in an afghan military uniform peopled to be a soldier opened fire with an automatic weapon. killing one high ranking u.s. military official. maybe as many as two other afghan military officials, and wounding a dozen more. according to senior dod officials, many of those are so severely wounded that the death toll in this incident could rise. the entire incident is under investigation, obviously. but this is one of those attacks we have seen for a couple of

years but as u.s. military took extra precautionary measures to protect their own forces, that number one down. according to military officials, when you're working side by side with armed afghan soldiers, there's no way to protect our soldiers 100% of the time. >> as any organization, any terrorist organization or others taking responsibility for the attack so far? >> not so far. we usually find that any individual who is in the military usually has been radicalized somehow. primarily by the taliban. that seems to have been the previous m.o. in most of the shootings. but it's impossible to say at this point, jose. >> thank you so much for that live report. let's zoom through some of today's other top stories. >> get out! cries for help an elderly cou e couple's car got caught in a flash flood 30 miles out of las

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now to the crisis on the border a we continue to wait for possible executive action from president obama. the federal government announced monday that three military bases in oklahoma, california, and texas temporarily housing close to 8,000 minors will be closing. the shelters will be shut down within the next few weeks with one closing as early as friday. the government said the move is because fewer kids are being caught on the border. meanwhile louisiana republican governor and potential 2016 contender, bobby jindal, took a trip to the border. he had harsh words for president obama but praised rick perry's decision to send national guard troops to the border. >> i want to commend governor perry to sending the forces to the border. it's making a great impact. the president needs to stop

blaming people. the first step and the most important step. let's secure the border. >> joining me now florida republican congressman john micah. >> good to be with you. >> as we await president obama's possible executive actions on this issue of immigration congress not giving him too much to work with before you went on break. speaker boehner called on him to act. so what should we be doing? >> well, right now you have a stand off at the border, and it really is the result of failed obama administration policy. first, the president took a 2008 law designed to give refuge to children in certain countries that were being abused and trafficked, and then passed an administrative law through the department of justice not to prosecute. and finally, opening the door

with his pathway to citizenship. his policies to grand amnesty for millions. that resulted in are trying to get their children's foot on american soil and have some chance of citizenship that is held out as hope. this is a result of a staggered but great failure in policy. >> congressman, because on -- >> now we're in a standoff. the house passed some funds to secure the borders. to have to secure the borders. we also gave funds in our legislation to fund the national guard, allow the national guard to go in. if the federal government won't do this, we can allow the governors to go in who can take action. >> now, congressman, let's talk

about this. the law that you refer to was passed in a bipartisan manner in december of 2008. then the president's deferred action which is about two and a half years old, has no pathway to citizenship. no pathway to residencresidency amnesty under any definition of the word, and it happened two and a half years ago. my question would be, why is it that we're waiting for 56,000 kids to appear on the border and hand themselves in to even deal with this? >> again, the law was in place in 2008. he had a good purpose. they took a loophole and in 2012, they passed this daca legislation which deferred prosecutorial action against the childhood entrants. then you open the door by telling folks, well, we're going to pass legislation that will grant amnesty. you get your foot in the door, and you have hope of having your

child become a citizens or be granted status in the united states. and that's what brought this on. it's opening the door and not enforcing the laws it intended. >> but isn't the fact of enforcing the laws in closing the border, isn't that talk of immigration reform? isn't the fact that when you talk about issues like closing the border and making the border less or russ but dealing with 11 or 12 million people who have been here longer than october of 2012. that's what you're supposed to deal, right? either way you look at it, there's a crisis. why are you waiting so long to deal with it and letting events shape how you deal with legislation? ? actually, i think the house republicans came together and passed a measure that give funds strictly to enforce our laws and secure the borders. if the president won't do it, we're giving funds and

permission to the national guard to do it. we're stopping the loophole in the 2008 law people have been taking advantage of. i think we have taken the steps. the senate did not pass the president's proposal. left town. the bill is there. it can be passed and would be a good start in getting control of our board aerns getting control of having illegal illegals, whey be children. we're compassionate about how we treat children coming across the boarder. but the whole world can't send their children to the united states and have the taxpayer pick up the tab nor should we be granting them citizenship. >> thank you for your time. kids, the congressman was talking about at the heart of the crisis, and with kids comes the needs for education. it is, in fact, a legal requirement to provide education to these undocumented minors now in communities across the

country. the first day of school just around the corner. school districts are trying to figure out how to cope with the influx. here in miami decade county, the first day of school is less than two weeks away. someone who has been dealing with it, planning it, and not surprised by anything. is the superintendent of miami schools. thank you for being with us. >> the rest of the country seems surprised by this. yet you have had a plan in place and are dealing with what we think, probably, this year a couple of hundred new young children entering the educational system in the area. >> probably more than that. number one, look, we're ready and prepared. we have a great deal of history dealing with the type of situation whether it is kids avoiding and leaving their nation as was the case during the civil war in nicaragua, or most recently after the devastation of the earthquakes or the hurricanes in haiti. we received them, we hug them, we love them, and we teach them. we have a moral and legal

obligation providing to all children. >> why moral? >> they're kids of the same god. witness they arrive here, it is not up to us educators to probe their origin, their status as far as imdwrags is concerned. >> why not? >> if we do that we are guaranteeing that it will be a silent majority of kids and families who are afraid of answering those questions, therefore, they'll go ignorant. so we should not be put in that position. secondly, it is -- when i talk about a moral and legal responsibility and obligation of teaching all children. it's a matter of both law and compassion that congressman mick can was talking about. do you turn your back on a 6-year-old who shows up hoping to meet a teacher and get an education. what is shapeful. the fact that children, unaccompanied children are being used as political footballs in the nation. it's shameful our nation saw the

issue evolving into a humanitarian crisis before congress decided to criticize what happened. meanwhile 50,000 arrived. another 40,000 are supposed to arrive through the end of 2014. >> this is not the first time you have dealt with the immigration crisis and the politicals a spebl s s a aspect. in 2012 a north miami student was facing deportation. now a student at dart mouth. having been accepted to school of yale. where is the shame of our nation when we pick on somebody like her? over my dead body will she be deported. >> why take such a political statement on this politically charged issue? >> number one, understand i'm an american by choice not by chance. i am an immigrant to this land. this great land of opportunity.

here is a young woman, a 17-year-old student who had a gpa of 6.7. enough to graduate two kids, accepted to the most elite universities in this country. she has a brother who returned from fighting for our nation in afghanistan. for all practical purposes, this child was american. she arrived here from colombia at 2. she has the same values and belief in the constitution as we do. and to have a country that decides to basically deport this child, as she is on the brink of doing great things for the country she loves. i think was shameful. so i had to take -- make a decision. take a stand. >> thank you for being with us. >> and we're taking quick break. coming up senator rand paul is in iowa pushing his message as a gop reaching out to minority voters. is it a tough sell when you're standing next to a lawmaker like

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we have to show we care not only about the people in iowa but detroit. >> let's frame the debate. msnbc contributor jimmy williams and republican stratist. >> we've heard this message from rand paul. we need to grow the party. he's giving speeches at traditionally black colleges. is it working? >> i think it is working. all i want to say is right on to rand paul. he is running! i know he's hiring different consultants. i know, he's getting his team. he's been extremely aggressive. i know, he's raised money in texas through some of my donors. this is going to be a big presidential money race. he's starting early. i think the fact that he's getting the message out that the republican party needs to be more diverse. it needs to, in order to survive, and i feel like the gop

is wearing the suit of the riddler, almost, because it's got question marks. it's trying to figure out do we go toward the tea party, do we go toward the establishment. it's a difficult spot for the republican party. >> jimmy, here is the thing. you have rand paul talking about bringing people in and here is another clip, for example. >> one other issue i'll leave you with to get more people to come to the party. it may not apply to iowa so much. if you want to win, ohio, illinois, pennsylvania, 80% of the geography and lose the citiecity s primarily because we don't get african-american vote. we have to go after people that haven't been considering the republican party. >> here is the thing. he's standing next to someone like steve king who has been devicive. talk about impeaching the president and makes comments that immigrants are bricking in drug. this is king being confronted by a group of dreamers yesterday.

he says one thing and standing by a guy who actually gets press out of being devicive and pretty much nothing else. he was at the fund raidser in iowa. you're raising money with steve king next to you. i'm pretty sure the people donating are not moderate republicans. here is the problem, it's great to talk about it. and, by the way, rand paul is absolutely correct. they have the gop has to do more. but you can't say we have to do more and when you're confronted by two dreamers. when you're confronted by the people in iowa, they lived here almost their entire lives. they have abided by the law. what does rand paul do? he leaves his food on the picnic table and whisked away by a staffer and leaves steve king to defend him? what does steve king do? he grabs her hand and says, look, i'm sorry you come from a country of lawless. are you joking me? that's the problem!

you can't just say it. you center to do it. you can't say you have to be compassionate and be not compassionate. i'm tired of the republicans saying i want this but they do nothing about it on gay marriage, on equality, on immigration. on a woman's right to privacy. all of these things on the voting rights act. none of these things are priority. if they were they would confront them head on as opposed to talking about them. >> i think he brings up points you may want to comment on. >> wow! okay. well, you know, in all fairness. you do have a point. i think the gop, we are a little weak in those areas. that is, i mean, i'm not going to defend that. because i do feel like that's where we're struggling. i feel like, if we -- the more we can move to the center and go away from the far right, the more that we are going to pick up the african-american vote, the latino vote. we do not have a chance if we

keep on veering so far right we leave the new people coming in and lesbian, gay, we're leaving so much on the table. we have a wonderful economic platform. we have a great economic platform. it's the social issues. >> i want to -- yeah, jimmy i want to bring you in. i want you to explain to me, after the presidential elections when 71% of the latino vote went for barack obama. the republican party realizing it had their hat handed to them, said we need comprehensive immigration reform as a policy position. then they don't not only do nay not do it but attack daca. is it just folks think that these words don't matter and it's not going to come back to bite them in the hat later? >> biting there somewhere else is where i'm thinking. you have a point.

and it is something, obviously, we need to work on. there's a lot of people, even people like me, we get beat over the head because we appear like we're too moderate and immigration reform. look what happened to cantor. look what happened to some of the people that were up for re-election that lost because of their views. look at lindsey graham. he was getting progressive and he had primaries. you have to realize a lot of people are paying the price in the republican party, so to speak. they're saying, you know, we want to, you know, have immigration reform. e want to work together. but then the people that are trying to make headway on it are being reprimanded. >> do you think there's any time, enough time for the republican party that really can't figure out what they want to do and say and act on immigration reform, for example. can get their act together one way or another before 2016? >> they certainly can't do it before the 2014 elections. those will be because the sheer

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illegal aliens coming into the country, especially when they are coming in numbers they are now indicators show that not only did they take the jobs that americans do want by and large, but it depresses wages. and right now in this country, we have more americans who are out of the work force. we have more americans than ever before on welfare. so you can't have mass immigration both legal and illegal and hope you're going to be able to give a job to every american out there or low welfare for that matter. >> the fact out of the 11 or 12 million people here without documents most of them didn't arrive yesterday. mo have u.s.-born children, which means they've been here for some time. some have grandchildren in this country. the fact is, they're already here and contributing to the economy and they're really not taking jobs away from people because they're not crossing the border in those numbers. >> jose, i have to disagree with you on that one. i've met too many people

crossing this country doing my films, giving speeches, and i find specifically in the construction industry where construction workers have just lost their jobs. they can't compete against people who are going to be paid cash underneath the table. and, you know, one thing i want to make clear, i've been listening to your show the entire time here, and, you know, both sides, democrats and republicans, are both guilty of this. the need or the want for cheap labor is what is driving all of this. everybody is talking about fences and the different policies. at the end of the day, the people will continue to come to this country for as long as there's an incentive to come. for as long as we continue them to work here illegally they're going to come. >> and they're also coming because of really difficult situations they're living in their home countries and many have family members in the united states who will have made

a life for themselves already here. and feel it's better to die trying to get to the united states and be with a mother or father rather than stay. this is another aspect you bring up. another clip. it has to do with fears that people have who live near the border. check it out. >> if i were to run five miles right now, home border patrol would we see in or at night? >> we have all the the lights in the place with the town is. there's no lights here. i'm going to jump over the fence. this is where i'm going to jump. do you think we could possiblily have 9/11 coming in through airports they come from the board ensure. >> yeah. who said they didn't. two took flight training here. >> so how many terrorists attacks in the u.s. have been

carried out? i know the fear exists but the fact is the ones here don't commitment terrorist attacks. >> that's an irresponsible statement to be honest. let me say something about immigration policy. it was designed primarily for two reasons to protect american workers from unfair foreign competition, and to protect american lives from people who want to come in here and disrupt the american way of life. and right now we're not doing either one with our open borders and allowing people to come through the border right now with diseases like turk low sis. the media is focussing on the children. it's a very small slice of the overall poplatiulation comesing through the board per. lion's share that are apprehended or handing themselves over. those are families and adults coming with one child. many teens. the other 50% of people who are

coming through the border are coming here are sneaking through. they could be from a terrorist network. we know from a congressional report in 2012, jose, that the drug cartel are some of the most dangerous terrorist networks. why deny that. we have drug smeg smugglers, gang members. i want to protect the american people and the american workers. >> and i had to show the vaccination rate with the kids are coming from. i want to continue this conversation with you. the fact of the matter is you didn't explain what i said was irresponsible and you wouldn't answer the question how many terrorists acts have been carried out by the undocumented that are lived here and have been here for many years. >> i did. vis-a-vis -- >> i have to go. let's have you back in the future. because -- >> i'll be back. >> very much appreciate it. >> as long as we continue the conversation as adults i'm here. >> that's it. i think we're both over 21. thank you for being with us.

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