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hurricane julio wshould hit. jim cantore has more on the calm before the storm. >> pretty much calm right now. that is going to change as we go on through the day today and possibly by 8:00 tonight we'll see the center of the storm come very close the hilo. the other thing i'm worried about here on ka mehameha avenu, these windows are only single pane. any debris could break these windows. only a few have boarded up so far. if these local businesses do not choose to board up, especially with winds expected to be around 80 miles per hour. other than that, it's the seas. you're talking about 25-foot waves off the coast which are rolling in. when it stops raining here and i just listen off on to the other side of the bay, i can hear
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those waves crashing. they're not 25 feet yet. but they could be before the day is out. obviously surf everywhere not only here on the big island on the northeast facing beaches but also oahu, kauai, up into hawaii, dangerous conditions will exist. >> jim cantore. we'll keep you posted on this storm throughout the day. the army has wrapped up its two-day question of sergeant bowe bergdahl. he's being questioned on circumstances that led to his disappearance in afghanistan. he was freed in may in exchange for five taliban prisoners. here's what his lawyer had to say. >> he's very anxious to have this over, and he is a grateful human being. here is a man who has had a near-death experience, but we're not talking about an instantaneous near-death experience, we're talking about five years worth of near-death experience. >> the army is considering
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whether to pursue a desertion charge. and the remains of major general harold greene arrived at dover air force base earlier today. soldiers wearing white gloves solemnly carried a flag-draped casket with greene's remains inside. he was killed in an afghan insider attack on tuesday. right now, secretary of state john kerry is in afghanistan on a surprise visit attempting to calm tensions between the two feuding presidential candidates. edward snowden has been given permission to stay in russia for three more year. his lawyer said he'll be able to travel abroad for three-month stints. this comes as vladimir putin fights back against a recent round of sanctions against his country. he's now banning the import of american meat, milk and vegetables for the next year. any minute now jurors in the detroit court shooting trial will resume deliberationses
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after a lunch break. theodore wafer is accused of gunning down unarmed renisha mcbride who showed up incox kated on his porch. jurors were asked to look at evidence between including a shotgun. he feared for his life and shot mcbride in self-defense. a sad story. the global response to the ebola virus is growing fast. one hour from now the director of the cdc will testify on washington, d.c. it just raised its alert level to level one. abroad the world health organization is holding its own meetings in geneva. 932 people have died in this outbreak. two americans are receiving treatment in an atlanta hospital. this a rare moment of focus on the kind of health crisis that receives the least attention and the fewest resources, those ravaging the poorest parts of the world. those include epidemics that
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take far more live than ebola. take measles, 20 million cases a year and 120,000 deaths or malaria, 220 million cases a year and 660,000 deaths. do you want to live in a world where these illnesses raged unstopped until a fleeting moment of attention when american missionaries are threatened? and what would it take to deal with these crises before they hit our stores. dr. aun thonny fauci is with the national institute of health. we'll get to that question of confronting that in a minute but a whole lot of americans want to know how worried they should be. take a look at how fast this spread, start in guinea, moved to liberia and sierra leone then yesterday to nigeria. a pisht died in saudi arabia after traveling from sierra leone. a missionary was medevacked from liberia to spain. first patient to be treated in
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europe. those two american aid workers infected in liberia are back home in atlanta. is there any likelihood that this could spread to america? >> well, i think there's certainly a possibility that someone is going to get on an airplane who was infected in a west african country, be on the plane without symptoms, land in a city in the united states and develop ebowl ha. that's certainly conceivable and maybe even likely given that there's so much international travel. the thing that the people need to understand is that this kind of thing will not lead to an outbreak here because we have the capability of handling cases that need the proper isolation and the proper personal protective equipment for the people the health care workers who take care of them. outbreaks occur as is raging in the west african countries now because an essentially dysfunctional health care delivery system where they cannot handle people who need
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the kind of infection control that is required of ebola. so the answer to your question is the american people should not be afraid of an outbreak but they should not be surprised if some time or other, someone will come here and develop ebola, but it can be handled in our system. >> when we look at how it's handled we've been talking about this drug zmapp that appears to be what these infected americans are being given. why aren't africans being given that same treatment? >> there are essentially less than a handful of doses. if you go to the company and ask how many doses are available now? and by doses we mean like a treatment course which consists of three doses, there's less than a handful. there's no psupply to be distributed. what we're trying to do by a number of agencies is to scale up the production which is difficult to do. so not like there's going to be a lot of drug around in the reasonable future. so it really is predominantly a
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supply issue and nothing else but that. >> dr. fauci, just now we've learned that this is a fact i thought was pretty telling. that more money goes into fighting baldness and erectile dysfunction than hemorrhagic feevers like dengue or ebola, that's according to vox. >> i think indirectly, i wouldn't say the kind of people infected but i'd say what the burden of disease is. if you look at ebola, it was first discovered in 1976. there have been about 23 or 24 outbreaks from 1976 until the present time. and during that time there have been maybe 2200 people infected. when look at what pharmaceutical companies go for, there's no real incentive on the part of pharmaceutical companies to develop interventions in the form of treatment and vaccines for those. that's the reason why the burden
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of that has been on the federal government and we've been doing research on this for years, but the federal government generally doesn't develop products, but now, given the kind of publicity, appropriately so, that ebola is getting, i think you're going to start to see a lot more interest on the part of pharmaceutical companies to get engaged in the developmental process of either a vaccine or a drug, but up to now they haven't had a lot of incentive. >> those are developing fast. thank you very much, dr. fauci. >> you're welcome. u.s. military officials are considering new air drops of food and water to help over 40,000 refugees in iraq trapped on a mountain. the white house press secretary is talking about this now. let's take a listen life. >> the humanitarian situation is deeply disturbing there, and it's one that we're following closely. that said, it's important for everyone to understand, and the president's made this clear,
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that there are no american military solutions to the problems in iraq. we can't solve these problems for them. these problems can only be solved with iraqi political solutions. that is the core of our thinking as we confront these kinds of situations. now, the president has, at the same time, demonstrated his clear willingness to take the kind of military action that's required to core american interests, like protecting american personnel around the globe. he's taken actions like that in other countries. the president has also made clear that american military action in iraq would not include combat boots on the ground. that is a principle that the president laid out at the beginning and that continues to be true today. >> and so it sounds like what
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you're saying is this is under consideration? >> i'm not in a position to shed light about the president's thinking at this point. he's been pretty clear about the broader problems and the broader challenges that are facing the people of iraq right now. what is clear is that there are no american military solution to those problems. those solutions are only going to come about through the kinds of political reforms that only the iraqis themselves can take. >> it sounds as though to deliver this humanitarian aid something may have to be done militarily to soften isis in that area so those supplies can go in? is that a correct read of that situation? >> i'm not in a position to provide you a tactical situation on the ground. i can give you insight into the president's thinking in general about the kinds of principles that would apply to contemplating military action. that would include no combat boots being put on the ground in iraq. the president is clear about that and that principle continues to hold.
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the president has been clear that any sort of military action that would be taken in iraq would be very limited in scope and very specific to addressing a core american objective. >> that played out earlier this summer, that remains the case now. >> yes, that would include things like protecting american personnel or confronting counterterrorism threats. the other thing that we've been also very clear about is that any sort of american military action would have to be closely tied to iraqi political reforms that are long overdue. we have seen some steps taken by iraqi political leaders to form a government on a timeline that's much more -- much faster than they've made these kinds of decisions in the past. so just in the last couple of weeks we've seen the election of a new iraqi president who is a kurd. we've seen the appointment of a new iraqi speaker who is sunni.
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and the appointment of two deputy speakers, one of whom is a kurd and one is shia. what couldn't the work that remain to be done in terms of political reforms is the election of a new iraqi prime minister and a cohesive government that is committed to leading the country in a way that reflects iraq's diverse population and gives comfort to the citizens of iraq that the government is looking out for the interests and well-being of every citizen there. >> last night there was a full report that said that the chairman of the joint chiefs was here meeting the president in the oval office. did this matter come up in their discussions? >> i don't have a read out of that meeting. i think the report noted that chairman dempsey traveled with the president at the conclusion of the africa summit to the
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white house. the chairman did ride in the car with the president on the way back from that meeting but i don't have any read out of their discussion. move around a little bit. anita? >> would you respond to some of the criticism from members of the senate intelligence committee, democrats, senator led by the chairwoman senator feinstein about the report -- the interrogation tactics after 9/11. has the administration poke spo the chairwoman yet? >> i don't have any to read out to you about the conversations between the president and the chairwoman. as the director of national intelligence indicated on friday, the report that was declassified by the dni left 85% of that material included in that report unredacted. that a rather large percentage when you consider the subject matter that's included in the report. those redactions are -- it is
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also important to note that those redactions happened in footnotes. the substance of the material that we're talking about is largely unredacted. and that reflects the president's personal commitment and view that this report be released to the public so that the public can see what happened. the president believes that it is important. he stood at this podium a week or so ago and laid out why it was important for this report to be released. >> you hear the white house press secretary talking most recently about that torture report from the senate which has been a source of controversy. but before that the purpose of this briefing discussing this crisis in iraq with thousands stuck on sinjar mountain in the kurdish territory of iraq. right now the u.s. government is saying they're considering humanitarian drops to assist the
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thousands still on the mountaintop and potential military strikes on the islamist militants that are at the base of the mountain. we'll keep you posted on that situation as it evolves. but first, up next, a different side of the immigration battle evolving fast today. that's the fight to protect lgbt rights at the border. a story you might not expect. skin looking tired? research shows that as you age skin cells loose energy. making skin look tired. wake it up! with olay regenerist. formulated with a skin energizing complex, it penetrates 10 layers of the skins surface. revving up surface cell regeneration and bringing out younger looking skin. because energized skin is younger looking skin.
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fresh tensions today over the flood of undocumented migrants across our border. "usa today" reporting that schools across the country are bracing for up to 50,000 undocumented children. many of them without parents. school districts are pleading for financial assistance from the federal government. for those not lucky enough to make it to those schools, they're in detention centers like these, getting shipped to
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them across the country. those centers are triggering tough questions all day today from communities that don't want them and from human rights groups that say the conditions in these detention centers are not safe. and an interesting wrinkle. lgbt protests in one story that throws this crisis into relief. an undocumented transgender woman held in custody with men alleges that she was sexually assaulted at her detention center. right now in los angeles, a protest is getting under way calling for her immediate release. and more protections for lgbt detainees. joining me now, anchor jose diaz-balart. one of the interesting wrinkles about this case is that ms. gamino is being held in one of these privately owned detention centers. jose, have you seen a difference in how the undocumented
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immigrants are treated in private centers versus ones run by the government. >> not really, in that these centers are really not set up for long-term housing of people and the government was clearly caught off guard by the amount of people that had been crossing the border even though this isn't really new. it didn't start in october of last year. the number, the increased number did start from october of last year. so what happens is you have a lot of people coming in to places where really aren't set up for this many people and it's clearly a long-term issue that we as a nation have to deal with and yet the solutions seem to be band-aided short-term solutions so things like we're reporting are probably not the only case that we're going to see of violations because it just doesn't seem like there's much of an organization and way to handle this many people. >> what do you think? what does this story reveal about how vulnerable sexual
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minorities can be in particular? . the massive detaining of innocent people is harsh, period. but it's particularly brutal for transgender people when there are laws put in place. and there's no real recourse when an incident actually happens. she's a 23-year-old trans woman who has been housed with men for a year. has endured multiple instances of being harassed, bullied and threatened with rape. she made that known to detention staff. instead of helping her, they ignored her. when it culminated into her actually being raped, instead of helping her, they tried to pressure her into signing a form of consent. this isn't an isolated incident. 59% of transgender detainees have reported being sexually assaulted in these centers. >> that's troubling. jose, they're pushing back on the detention centers being brought to their communities. safety concerns, cost concerns.
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from the safety side you're reporting on this border patrol agent who was allegedly murdered by two mexican nationals. how much of this fear from communities is well founded? >> there's a lot of fear and well founded fear. i just want to bring up an issue that our guest just said. this lady has been housed for over a year. this is not part of the new wave of immigration coming over the border. and so this issue has been happening in our country for a long time now. it's just not been reported much. back to the question at hand. the department of justice just this week has brought out the numbers of the crime that is seen in the rio grande valley area and a lot of the crime clearly has to do with people crossing from the mexican border into the united states like these two alleged killers were deported up to four times, one of the two men that allegedly
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killed this border patrol agent. and so the question is, ronan, you know, it's so easy to talk and take sides on the immigration reform issue and talk about it in passionate terms and say this is what must be done, but both sides agree that immigration is broken, right? and so -- and i was just looking at the senate bill that passed over a year ago in a bipartisan fashion of the house didn't even want to talk about. but that bill has billions of dollars for exactly dealing with the porous border. it has an increase of 4500 agents and talks about the possibility of using the national guard on the border. when we discuss immigration reform it's not just a dilettante conversation we're having about the hall of congress, it affects real people and people like this young lady who has been housed for over a year and no one's done anything about it. it affects the thousands of
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children that have crossed and now many times are now facing a new school year in a new country with languages they may not even know. >> you make such an important point in how long she's been held and also about the type of person she is which representing a side you don't usually see talked about. she was born in mexico but also raised in arizona and was an american for much of her life functionally. that's a large portion of individuals in these detention centers and one of the things that makes this such a difficult issue. tiq, as these protests unfold and the government considers what to do about this case, should the lgbt community be doing more to ally itself with the immigration reform movement? >> there's always room to do more and to be better. the immigration issue is also an lgbt issues because there's thousands of gay and transgender people who are seeking asylum because they have no protections. they deserve to be protected
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under the law and be treated as if their lives matter. >> everyone at home, i want you to watch jose's show. he's got incredible coverage of the border crisis and a whole slew of other interesting stories. i enjoy being on that show and enjoy watching it. i urge you to do the same. just ahead on this show, much more on the breaking news that we covered earlier. potential u.s. strikes with refugees trapped on a mountain top. that's remarkable that so much energy is, is wasted. streetline has looked at the problem of parking, which has not been looked at for the last 30, 40 years. we wanted to rethink that whole industry, so we go and put out these sensors in each parking spot and then there's a mesh network that takes this information, sends it over the internet so you can go find exactly where those open parking spots are.
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i'll start with you, jack jacobs. what is under consideration tactically right now? >> everybody has been talking about the requirement to drop food and water on to this site. or maybe conducting air strikes on the isis soldiers who are at the base of the mountain. but you can't do one without the other. we're not going to subject aircraft to the vaguearies of enemy fighters on the ground without first neutralizing all the soldiers, as many of the enemy soldiers as we can at the base of the mountain, whether dropping it by parachute or low level extraction or other means of bringing food and water down there, there are going to be air strikes on the enemy soldiers surrounding the mountain. we may not do the air strikes. we'll certainly control them if we're going to do the humanitarian drop. it may be the iraqi air force that will conduct the strikes. >> andrea, we've been looking at
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isis fighters sweep the kurdish parts of iraq quite successfully in recent days. the kurds have been pleading for more assistance but seems like the white house has been reluctant to get involved. why is that? >> the white house is reluctant to get involved in military in iraq because of our history of the military involvement there. they want to get maliki out of the action, get a new government in, but that's not working as quickly as anyone would have hoped. they're reaching a military emergency. there was a conversation between barzani and hollande. there's been a lot of concern that the iraqi air force is not up to it. even when we were talking about earlier air strike possibilities, that the iraqi air force was so decimated and so untrained at this stage that it would not be a good option.
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that's one of the reasons why there wasn't military action early on when isis was originally threatening and even getting closer and closer to baghdad. >> the kurds right now, obviously, they want independence. does any white house support for the kurds, as they're requesting, mean exacerbating how plsplit this country is rig now? >> i was in irbill with john kerry. that's the problem. the kurds want their independence, they're pressing for independence, but if they get their independence, that would effectively break up iraq. to hold iraq together which has been the administration's position, they need to give the kurds enough help to keep them going but not give them autonomy. >> colonel jacobs, is an air strike operation the kind of help that would be required for that? >> in order to drop the human aid -- i agree with andrea, the
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iraqi air force is not up to the task. we don't necessarily want to put american airplanes in the air space above this. so what you may see are cruise missiles which can be targeted very specifically, launched from either air at a great distance away or from submarines and american surface ships. but you need good targeting for that. you need to know exactly where the bad guys are. >> how sustainable is a humanitarian drop? that would make these 40,000 kurds and other humantary -- >> you have to do that unless you eliminate the bad guys around the mountain. you have to keep the pressure on isis. not only that, the kurds on the mountain have to be able to collect the human arn that's dropped. >> it's so dangerous right now. >> exactly. so there's a daylight window during which you can actually do it. you won't drop in the middle of the night and have the kurds wandering around trying to find
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it. that window i think is closing about now and will open up again at dawn. >> andrea, we heard josh earnest just say it remains no boots on the ground. do you ever see that changing in this conversation? >> i would never say never to anything given all the unpredictable circumstances but that is the operating premise. we saw a couple of unusual things today. the president had a bill signing at ft. belvoir. he can be late for things but he was really late. he was involved in a national security meeting. we saw him in animated conversation with his chief of staff and a key national security adviser dennis mcdonough who was the deputy national security adviser before. we saw them in a very animated conversation before he left the white house. he then went to fort belvoir. there were indications all along when i asked a senior official whether or not as "the new york times" reported they were considering these options of air
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strikes and/or humanitarian drops, the comment was, i have nothing for you on that, which as colonel jack knows is the classic nondenial, which is a confirmation. so they're considering it. he was late leaving. it's under consideration. something is definitely afoot. there was no ruling out or denial from josh earnest. everything is on the table. >> you can watch andrea's show at 1:00 p.m. -- i'm sorry, 12:00. we're on at 1:00 p.m. the candidates are in for our underreported poll. you sent us the stories you think need reporting. now time to vote on the finalists. this week's options, chicago's violence as the windy city struggles through one of its most tumultuous periods on record. over 1200 shootings just this year.
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right. there's no difference to what happened here. the monkey was my assistant. >> the monkey was his assistant. if a monkey takes your camera and snaps a shot of hills, who owns the rights? photographer david slater says he does. but there's a problem. he didn't hit the shutter. this guy did. this soulful crested black macaque grabbed his camera and took hundreds of selfies that you look at them there -- you understand why -- went viral. wikipedia -- this is getting a lot of laster in the studio. wikipedia disagrees. this is a serious rights issue. they're keeping the photo up claiming if slater did not physically take it, it's in the public domain. it's a legal conundrum with real stakes. but in the end the law seems to be on the side of wikimediap about it requires human authorship. this is one of the stories
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revealed in wikipedia's first transparency report issued yesterday. some have higher stakes than monkey royalties. request for private information some made by governments. a brave new world of tech companies grappling with government surveillance with your data caught in the crossfire. joining us now, eric haddeldol and alyssa baraznac. this monkey selfie is one of 300 requests that wikipedia has received to take down content. a lot are very different from this monkey request. they've granted zero so far. how is wikipedia navigating the balancing act of taking down objectionable content and not? it seems like they're firmly in one camp. >> wikipedia is very strongly in the camp of the more information the better. wikipedia and wikimedia foundation, their basic philosophy if the information is
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wrong, go in and change it and make it better. if there's something in a wikipedia article that's incorrect, anybody can go in and change it and fix it and make it better. usually that's what happened. >> that comes out and they're responding to this european right to be forgotten decisions. google is taking down some links and they're publicly reporting what's being taken down. is that the new normal, that there will be compliance with some of the regulations that are more strong handed but there's also transparency about them? >> google has a lot of -- i don't know, flack for that. they definitely -- i've been told that that is bringing more attention to the people who want to be removed from the internet. so that kind of defeats the purpose of giving these people more privacy. so it's unclear how they're going to navigate this. it seems like they're criticizing the ruling in the first place by releasing that information. and they're on the side of wikipedia. >> right, google is a party to
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that, as you mentioned. they're letting wikipedia know about the takedown requests. not all companies do that. should more do so? >> i would think so. this entire right to be forgotten case that came out of the eu seems like it's having the exact opposite effect of what it was sought to. >> the streisand effect, more attention being placed on it. >> i didn't know the former gangster jerry hutch who turned his life around. convicted for crimes in the '70s and '80s then went on to become a philanthropist. >> and he wanted that history scrapped. >> yeah, but then where do you start drawing the line? what if one of the yugoslavian war criminals wanted to change -- go back and -- does he have a right to be forgotten in wikipedia articles? >> the public should have that information. >> exactly. >> there's different free speech regimes in the states and europe, do you see this
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following along split lines where there's a different internet in places that are less maximalist about free speech? >> i don't think that's very consider at of where our future's headed. more and more the lines between nations are blurred because of the internet. so it doesn't much sense that in america you can find out something about someone and in europe you might not be able to. i think that if europe wants that to lap, they're going to sort of risk becoming more like a really, really dictatorship. >> a strong handed regime in place here. >> exactly. >> but look, there are cases of real human drama where people are caught in the crossfire of this and there are things up there that are damaging them, but there's also a strong right to public information. this is playing out fast. thank you for helping us sort it out. stick around because we want your thoughts on this next tech story. the pope has a new edict and he delivered it in german. you know he means business. for young people and tech
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pope francis has just issued a new pronouncement and this is about the internet. il papa said that young people waste too many hours on futile things. sorry, i was looking at my phone. our tech panel is back. eric, how unusual is this kind of tech related pronouncement from a religious leader? >> probably, i don't know, first i'm aware of, but i can certainly use his advice. i don't think i fall into the category of young people. >> they're destroying us. the phones are destroying us. do you think that catholics should get special dispensation for looking at phones? >> i think the pope appreciates people being active with his twitter account. and i mean the pope himself is a
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little bit of an internet addict himself. he even has his own app that the vatican created. >> that's actually a good jumping off point. he's so twitter savvy. seems likes that a pragmatic move. there's a new pew foundation poll that found that most teens are on social media. that's not surprising. but the vatican one of the major religious institutionses that got into that. we went inside the vatican social media shop. this may surprise you. take a look, both of you ♪ gloria gloria ♪
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>> 60 million people around the world are receiving some form of the tweet of the pope. and we think that this is great, indeed beautiful. >> we are open iing news ipa is the heart of all the vatican's news services, missionary news service, press office and even television. the website is important. we like to call it the mothership. but most people are looking at the content on their smartphones. >> certainly people, some people, they have more followers
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than the holy father. >> the pope's not the biggest person on twitter. obviously, there are a lot of entertainers, a few politicians who are bigger than he is, but the fact of the few politicians bigger than he he is. but the fact of the matter is, pope francis gets a massive amount of tweets on every tweet that he sends out and that is just to us a sign of the people who follow the pope really care about the pope. >> we have a new version coming out, the pope app 2.0. we're incredibly excited about it. >> virtually all of the tweets that go outcome from his text. some are his and some are for the his. >> otherwise it cannot be a tweet of the pope. >> but they see different things
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for sticking around. melissa, what works and what doesn't about the pope's social media strategy? >> i often see people interacting with the pope's tweet and i see his bits of wisdom on twitter are reasonable. i think the feature on the vatican app to tour the vatican city is really great, too. it gives you an idea of the pope's stomping grounds. in terms of -- i mean, sometimes it's just too much. you should be praying or -- >> right. it has a religious conviction, inward facing to something that is kardashian full display for full consumption. is that overall, eric, a blessing or a curse for those trying to flourish in this new space? >> pope francis is very popular with the people and you have to go where the people are and the people are on social media so i give the catholic church for
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changing this sort of old school institutional view. i think a lot of religious organizations can learn from it. >> and it hasn't flourished in the way that it has until pope francis got into this role. there does seem to be an underpinning. >> he was much more aloof as a pope, as i recall. i'm not cat electrholic so i do too much attention. pope francis loves to meet and be around people and loves to take selfies of people. it will always resonate when you please the people that you're leading, as it were. >> savvy tactics and substance there and real policy discussions. he's bringing poverty to the forefront and he's doing more than the kardashians. >> absolutely. >> friends, melissa, eric, thank you for joining us. you definitely have our blessings for coming back on
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avoided direct answers to questions about providing aid. >> they are unable to access food and water. they don't have any access to shelter. and they are -- they have fled persecution and efforts to leave the mountain are blocked by isis forces who are vowing to kill them. this is a terrible humanitarian situation and one that is of great concern here to the united states. >> nbc's kristen welker is joining me from the white house. what do we know about the specifics about this religious minority reportedly trapped in the mountains? >> reporter: well, we know it is a grave humanitarian concern. they don't have access to food or water. president obama met earlier to discuss this situation. white house press secretary josh earnest avoided questions about this at the briefing not saying
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