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from detroit lakes minnesota. let's get to work! ♪ ♪ >> the science just simply doesn't back up the issue of global warming. >> hawaii is bracing for powerful dual storms. >> it is the worst storm to hit the island in more than a decade. >> there isn't even one study that could be produced that shows that carbon dioxide is a harmful gas. >> the most comprehensive crime -- >> climate change is something a lot of people don't put as a top priority. >> the science is not settled. >> how do you change that? >> there are real costs not out in the distant future. >> you can expect fewer normal weather days. >> what's being called a super storm. >> because carbon dioxide is not a harmful gas. >> climate change has been making the fire season in the
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united states longer. >> it is a harmless gas. ♪ ♪ >> good to have you with us tonight, folks. thanks for watching. we'll start with an issue that is right in front of us and destroying our country and that's climate change. there are four examples that are happening right now that i'm going give you tonight that really are abnormal. every single day we see weather getting more severe because of changes in the environment and there are currently two hurricanes in the pacific heading for hawaii and this is not a radar image that you see too often. in fact, it is very rare. hurricane iselle is expected to crash into the big island later tonight. this is going to be the the first hurricane to hit thathawan 22 years. would you say that's rare? i would. iselle would be the first hurricane in history to hit the big island.
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the category 1 storm is expected to slam hawaii with sustained winds of 80 miles an hour. the second hurricane, julio is expected to pass just north of the islands. very rare and still a chance that it could hit hawaii in a couple of days so they're taking precautions. hawaii governor abercrombie made clear that all levels of government are working together. >> the emphasis we want to make is that all levels of government are working together. when i say we we're talking about the federal, the state, the county, non-profits, private enterprise from the electric companies, et cetera and everybody working together under the game plan that we put together. >> so here is the arena that we're talking about here. they're getting ready and getting prepared. it's very rare. hawaii doesn't have to do this in the last two decades. i believe you can bank on the republicans talking about
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offsets and how we're going to pay for this. you know, when they're back on vacation. you see, climate change is also impacting america's drinking water. this is the second example tonight. this week we've been covering the story. we saw a water ban for 400,000 people in toledo, ohio. very rare. water temperatures and phosphorous run off from ponds called algae from lake erie. it contaminated the water supply with dangerous bacteria that can cause liver damage. o we're all looking forward to that! the ban was lifted and nobody could tell us why. wait a minute, there could be another ban coming up later in the month. example number three, on the west coast we are seeing record dry conditions devastate communities. that's not a promotional statement. it's the truth. look at this tape. california is currently experiencing its most severe
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drought ever. a new study shows the colorado river basin has lost 17 t, that would be trillion gallons of water since 2004. it's enough water to fill lake mead twice. the drought could cost california's economy $2 billion. 17 thousands of the state's farm jobs are expected to be lost and cut. the high temperatures have also caused a massive fish dieoff in southern california. example number four. last week warm, new rient-rich waters drove droves of anchovies. the fish used up all the oxygen and suffocated themselves. workers had to kleeb thousands of dead fish from the harbor. the stench was reportedly overwhelmi overwhelming. you can only imagine. we have another example, meanwhile, wildfires are raging
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out of control in the western portion of the united states. three states fighting wildfires are now declared emergencies. california, oregon and washington. washington state have all declared emergencies because of raging fires. roughly 180 wildfires are burning across this country right now. in july, washington saw the largest wildfire in the state's history. firefighters in washington are still battling numerous fires. one of the fires doubled in size this week on wednesday to ten square miles because of the drought. today, the biggest west coast fire is burning in rowena, oregon. the 1900-acre fire is threatening 600 structures and evacuations are under way. >> dusk and the smoke approaching town is proof that the fire is betting bigger by the hour. >> you don't know it will do.
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the wind's shifting. >> they were told be ready to evacuate. >> firefighters from the portland metro area raced out to the gorge while the family watched the fire creep closer and closer to their home. >> i never thought it would happen to us. it's always been a concern living in this area, and we've had a couple of scares, but never to this extent. >> this scare could be attributed to the wind. it's not sped upon up. this is real time and it explains why rick wolf and christie garner were under a mandatory evacuation by late evening. >> we know this, storms across this country are also becoming more severe. damage from tornadoes and severe thunderstorms is on the rise across america. in 2013 alone it marked the sixth year in a row with insured losses over $10 billion. this chart, we're not messing around, it doesn't lie. these are the numbers. severe weather is on the rise for a reason. climate change. this past june, just recently,
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days ago, june 2014 was the warmest june since records started being kept in 1888. may was also the hottest may on record. unfortunately, there is a party in this country that refuses to acknowledge the problem exists. house republicans refuse to approve funding for wildfires and instead they went on vacation and what were they doing? they were suing the president. a huge amount of these wildfires has forced the forest service to use other funds to fight fires. they asked congress for more money and some republicans to their credit spotted a fix for the funding and meanwhile, the house did nothing. republicans did nothing and sued the president and went on vacation. unless congress takes's meani meaningful action for climate change. it could cost the united states economy $150 billion a year. that's chump change. folks, america is burning. the the storms are becoming
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larger and more threatening to our coasts, sea levels are rising. our drinking water is at risk. joe asked the people in toledo and everyone, but science-denying republicans know what's happening. it's climate change, but we as a country seem to be in denial. so what's unfolding here in front of our eyes right now is that we have this do-nothing congress and they're basically telling you you're on your own. go get your own drinking water. go fight your own fires, we don't have anything for you. we're too busy. we have a tee time. and you wonder why the polling out there shows that the american people are so fed up with their government, so fed up with the lack of action in washington, the only thing they know how to do is not get along and the only thing they do well is obstruct this president because for whatever reason, i guess they just don't like him.
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sue him, threaten impeach ament. in the meantime, america is looking at things we haven't seen. there are a lot of abnormal things happening right now. what's our arena filled with? our arena is filled witha i a bunch of defires and a political system that doesn't want to address it, but america is still a great country. we're losing our grip on that. get your cell phones out. i want to know what you think. tonight's question, it's a good question. i'm sure i'll be quoted on this one. should climate-denying republicans be forced to take up basic earth science course? text a for yes, b for no to 67622 or go to ed.msnbc.com and we'll bring you results later on in the show. not to make fun of the situation at all, it is very serious, but it's so frustrating when all of these things are happening that are terribly abnormal and very
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severe and we say the science doesn't back it up and that's the position of one party in the country. the republicans. i want to bring in john ga rshg amendi who sees it in his district. good to have you with us tonight. >> hello, ed. >> how bad is the situation in california with the wildfires and the drought taking place, john? >> every year it gets worse, ed and it's been bad over the years before, and every year it's worse because there really is climate change. the state is drying out. the drought is part of it and we are seeing all across the state dryer and dryer conditions and we're not preparing for what we know will happen in the next fire season and that is more fires. so we've got to try to get ahead of this in two ways, ed. one is to get on top of the carbon emissions and the president has made a major step forward with the epa regulations that are being seriously
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attacked by the republicans in both the senate, the house and across the nation. at the same time, we need to prepare our communities for these fires and we need to manage the forest, reduce the fuels and, frankly, we'll need to appropriate the money to fight the fires and to prepare for the next fire season by reducing the fire threats in our forests and in our wild lands. >> congressman, we're looking at the videotape of the devastating fires taking place in california and the house went home without fixing the funding to deal with this. your reaction to that? >> it's going to cause problems this year and problems next year. the department of agriculture, that's the u.s. forest service that manages millions upon millions of forest acres is spending all of its fire fighting money that was appropriated by the last couple of weeks of this month of august and then they'll have to dip
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into other accounts, the forced management accounts and maybe more beyond that to fib earn off the fire season that will clearly run another four months beyond august and we'll see more problems this year and next year because we will not have put in place those fire suppression and making the forest even safer. the other part of this problem is 196 members of congress, all democrats have signed a discharge petition to pull a bill out of committee, a bipartisan bill to set up a special fund so the fires can be fought in this year and the nextiary and the money set aside to manage the forests, and it could be spent on this purpose rather than being taken out and put into fighting the fires this year. the republican leadership in the house objects to that saying it will cost money. yes, but fighting fires this year and next year more and more will cost even more money.
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>> we just don't have money for the basics. they deny the basics, and i just struggle with this, these americans out there losing homes and property. what did they do wrong to be singled out and be told i don't have anything for you. this will take a real toll on cal's economy. 17,000 jobs will be lost in the ag committee and $2 billion in the economy. are there any numbers out there, congressman, that will move republicans in your state. i think the republicans in this state are more sensitive to this issue and they're living it in their own districts. i think they are more sensitive and it is their leadership and mr. ryan in the congress that has been putting out letter after letter saying no, no, no, we can't do this, but, ed, i was a boy scout. in fact, i was an eagle scout and the motto is be prepared. we have to prepare ourselves in two ways. one, go after the carbon emissions. reduce those carbon emissions and take whatever action we need
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to do and much of that is under way certainly here in california with the cap and trade program and secondly, get ahead of next year's fire. put in place the the fire breaks and reduce the fuel loads and those are things we can do and when we say that we save lives and frankly, we save money. >> congressman garamendi, i want to ask you about the breaking news on iraq because you're on the house committee. i want to bring in tiernan. if all of these disasters won't get the attention of republicans, what will it take? >> thaw that is a very great question and thank you for calling attention to the impact climate change is having. there are more than a hundred members of congress who deny the basic existence of climate change with the 97% of scientists. it is time for them to stop siding with their polluter
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allies and is start look out for public health and their environment. there are solutions at their disposal. win-win solutions that will create jobs and money back in consumers' pockets that will protect the environment and those are the solutions that they'll pursue and it's not that there are many republicans in congress and there are any number of them running for the u.s. senate who think we should abolish the epa and it's going to be a really important election cycle for whether we move forward and continue to make progress like the administration is doing on climate change. >> on these wildfires, is there any doubt these wildfires are linked to climate change. unfortunately, whether is whether the forest fires and the more frequent and intense storms you talked about upon. the the extreme weather that's
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upon us will only get worse. >> the obama administration is taking action through the man especially cutting mrugz from coal. lub lick pollution and that's what makes us so encourage side that the people support the chon sense solution to cut carbon pollution and we have future you are generations to prevent the devastating impacts that you have been pointing out. >> tiernan, of course, the republicans are in denial on climate change and they haven't had anything to do with this, but srn the perfect example from ohio that were a waste from all kinds of different things have gone into the rivers and now end up in lake erie and a man has done that and now they can't drink the water and there's ban bes and there's possibly more
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coming? isn't this the best evidence? and so human behavior is at the root of all of this and the republicans are still in denial. >> you're absolutely right. the situation in toledo as in ohio and i find it particularly disgraceful and up sentable, the fact that 400,000 people were unable to bring their water because of global warming and it is a result of increasing temperatures and carbon dioxide. we can continue with the administrate of what we're doing. it's time for seance to start looking is the sleuths, to answer your taughts and at both places. coming up, mike huckabee, here we come. he joins the impeachment chorus.
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secretary josh earnest said any military action would be very limited in scope. >> they are unable to access food and water. they don't have access to shelter and they are, they have fled persecution and efforts to leave the mountain are blocked by isil forces ordered to kill them. this is a terrible humanitarian situation and one of concern to the united states. >> i am joined again tonight by congressman john garamendi who sits on the house arms services committee. your reaction. what action should we take, if any? >> we can start with the humanitarian assistance. we clearly have the capability with the c-17s and c-130s to provide air drop humanitarian support, food, shelter, tents, and and whatever supplies might
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be necessary. we have planes flying through that area, nearly all of the time back and forth through afghanistan and into iraq also. so we could do that and shoulding that we definitely should do if the situation is as described. air strikes are another matter and this brings us to our neighbors in the area particularly turkey and they have a keen interest in this area and to try to settle down the fighting in this area because it could, and it does threaten them at this time and so we need to work closely with turk owe this matter. the iraq government to the extent that they have capability left at all, they should be involved and air strikes, we have to be really careful. you're in for a dime and you're in for a dollar and you have to be really, really careful here and i would like to know what the president has in mind and what the military has in mind and how extensive and how often
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and the drones can launch hellfire missiles if this was appropriate, but watch out, the war powers act is out there and the president -- this is clearly the initiation of a military campaign. >> i was going to ask you about that. do we legally stand on solid ground to be able to do any kind of air strikes? >> i believe the answer is yes. i'm very concerned about i ra. i've led the effort in congress that the president must come to congress before he takes any military action on the offensive side in iraq. however, the president does have the power under the war powers act to take offensive military action for up to 60 days and then he must notify congress and then there is another 30 days in which congress says okay, continue on and stop. that's the way the law is written presently. we'll see what happens here, but i think the president needs to be very, very clear as to what
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exactly is the goal of any action and be very careful. it is a slippery slope. >> so humanitarian aid, from your perspective, not a problem. any kind of air strike is a slippery slope at this point which brings me to the question what about maliki? is he unworkable? is he just not a true partner with the united states to continue this behavior against other sects within iraq? what about that? >> maliki's got to go. that's my view. he's got to go. he is a major problem. he has pitted the sunnis against the shiites and he's pitted the the sunnis against that. he's created a very, very divisive situation and reallien flamed the sunni population and that has given a lot of opportunity to the extremists because they're teaming up with disaffected and very unhappy sunnis in the region.
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that's a problem and maliki's got to go. this has been the policy of the u.s. government for a long time and form a coalition government and bring all of iraq, the kurds, the sunnis, the shouldii and let them reap the benefits of whatever peace might bring. maliki has gone exactly the other direction and maliki ought to go immediately. >> well, with that in mind, congressman, finally, if we were to have some type of air strikes it would be against the sunnis at this point, would it not? they are the problem here and this, of course, militarily, action would be pitted against maliki. >> well, therein lie the problem. you can't go after iraq and go after all of the sides. however, issa is a terrorist organization that really began
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many years ago and took serious root in the syrian conflict and using the sunnis has been able to move into and take over a large portion of iraq. so it depends and this is one of the things that needs to be understood and perhaps it is known, but i'm not sure what it might be, who are these issa people who are holding these people as hostage in this mountainous area? >> okay. congressman john garamendi, thank you for being with us. i appreciate your time. >> coming up, donald trump believes something might tarnish his golden image. he lands in tonight's "pretenders." plus mike huckabee's argument for impeachment, all hat, no kalth. the rapid response panel will have some fun with this one, but next, i'm taking your questions. ask ed live just ahead and we're right back with "the ed show" on msnbc. i'm only in my 60's...
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appreciate your questions and i love hearing from you wonderful viewers in the ask ed live segment and our last question is from edward who wants to know what is your opinion about the situation in iraq? hey, ed. i'm all for humanitarian aid at some level to start with and even a heck of a let more, but i am not for international intervention here and you start a shooting match, what's our intel on the ground? who are we going to be hitting? how do we know we're siding with the right people and one thing will lead to another. i say no military intervention at all at this point, but humanitarian aid certainly has to be considered and i would be for that. >> our next question is from john. do you think steve king and michele bachmann are a viable right-wing ticket in 2016 and what's your definition of viable? do i think they'll run?
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they're crazy enough to. do i think they'll win? absolutely not. would they be good for business? >> oh, yeah. >> stick around. rapid response panel is next. i'm hampton pearson with your cnbc market wrap. stocks decline across the word on geopolitical worries. the dow closes off session lows and still down 75 points and the s&p down 10 and the nasdaq sheds 20 points. better than expected jobless claim figures fail to inspire investors and claims unexpectedly fell by 14,000 to 289,000 and netflix was a winner jumping nearly 5% today in a facebook post, ceo reid hastings says the company has surpassed hbo in subscriber revenue. that's it from cnbc, first in business worldwide.
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i never have a green light. i'm bound by the constitution, and i'm bound by separation of powers. there are some things we can't do. my preference in all these instances is to work with congress because not only can congress do more, but it will be longer lasting. what the american people expect is that despite the differences between the parties there should at least be the capacity to move forward on things we agree on and that's not what we're seeing right now. so in the face of that kind of dysfunction, what i can do is, you know, scour our authorities to try to make progress and we're going to try to make sure that every time we take one of these steps that we are working
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within the confines of my executive power. >> welcome back to "the ed show," republicans refused to tackle the important issues like immigration and that's what the president was talking about yesterday and on wednesday president obama made it clear he wants to work with congress, but in the face of unprecedented obstruction he's not afraid to use executive authority and we've seen that and they blamed him for it. republicans are responding to that show of leadership the only way they know how, by talking impeachment. >> has this president done anything worthy of being impeached in your view? >> absolutely. there's no doubt that he's done plenty of things worthy of impeachment. from a governmental standpoint you're not going see it accomplished with this senate, but i think it's an important argument to make that there are a number of things that this president has done in the overuse of an executive power, his complete ignoring of the law. >> all generic talk from the
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hecklers from the stands. joining me tonight in a rapid response panel, democratic strategi strategist, bob schrum and columnist for the grio. good to have both of you with us tonight. goldie, what is your response to huckabee adding to this impeachment buzz. >> what strikes me is none of the hecklers from the stands of the president get into the devil in the detail in terms of what the president has done that would have them so upset to talk about impeachment and they sure are sold on it from the generic view from talking about it. your thoughts on it it. >> that's because they really don't have to. what they're doing is playing a bit of a political crap shoot. they're hoping that and they can hope this delegitimizing this president in a way that turns out their base this fall. so this isn't about floating articles of impeachment and you
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can pretty much impeach a ham sandwich in this congress and that's holding them back from the real deal and what they're doing is a political ploy and this is meant to make certain that they can gain control of the senate come this fall in some of these tight races such as kentucky and georgia. so you will see this language in the grassroots. where you're not going see it is with the established republicans who could what kind of fire we're playing with here. >> what are the motivations of a guy like mike huckabee, and they're running for the republican nomination on this? >> i think that goes to the heart of the problem. goldie is right about republicans wanting to turn out their base, and i think all of this kind of talk will energize the democratic base. she's also right that establishment republicans don't want to go down this road at least before the midterms. look, they didn't want in a
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couple of years ago to shut down the government and their base forced them to do that. i think this could happen again after the midterms. i think after the midterms the base could force republicans to actually try at least in the house to impeach the president and it's a political disaster for them and they may not be able to avoid that and one of the things will drive it. mike huckabee is a front-runner for the republican nomination for president in 2016. he's appealing to the most extreme elements in the country who happen to control certainly the early republican primaries and caucuses. so i think we'll see more and more of this conversation, and i think there is some chance that they can actually try to do this. >> so huckabee is calculated here in his words in that he's got to go hard right, early on to be entrenched in the states that you're talking about, rob? >> oh, sure and, look, lindsay graham when he was in his
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primary in south carolina and was facing a tea party challenge and he voted for immigration reform and he'd done a couple of other reasonable things and once he sponsored climate change legislation with john mccain, he used the impeachment word and he did it to satisfy the base, but this is playing with fire because once you light this fire after the midterms republicans could very well go down this road. you know, they're trying to say democrats are jamming this up. democrats aren't creating this. it's not just huckabee, it's a lot of republicans who used the "i" record and democrats are calling him on it. i think it will help turn out democratic voters in the fall. >> well, it's this rabble rousing taking place that they're trying to take on immigration, on suing the president and on the health care law and now, of course, this talk of impeachment and it's constantly being floated out there. michele bachmann's floated it out there although she's not
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running again and steve king has in a town hall earlier this week. you have rand paul talking it up and now you have mike huckabee. what should be the democratic response to this if any at all? can they let this just -- or should democrats out on the trail start talking about this? >> i think between now and the midterm, democrats ought to say bring it on. it's raising the money and it's turning out the base and it's firing them up and getting them ready to go. i think dems are right to keep the language alive and to pass huckabee the mike, pass michele bachmann the mike, one more, two more, three more times as long as they'll repeat it and democrats are right to do this. it's a weakness that republicans don't realize that they have. after midterms, however, it gets even more dangerous because w r we're in a position where they may move ahead on this and they
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might float articles of impeachment and the problem is they would destroy themselves in 2016. >> i want both of you to respond to the mississippi congressman and i am so furious at the guy, i don't even want to say his name. talk about the democrats are waging a war on whites. bob, that's about as low brow as it gets and if you want to talk about on women, war on wages, war on workers, all right, but a war on whites. they're scraping the bottom of the barrel. your thoughts on it. it's disgusting and race baiting and he reflects the worst traditions of the south who had passed away and was passing away and i think it hurts the republican party, but this ed, as i said to you before, we've had so much resentment about some people about the changing nature of america, the changing nature of the population and
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this is a majority non-white country and we happen to be an african-american president and some of these folks just can't abide it it. >> your thoughts on the war on whites, goldie? >> that comment. >> this is not new language and this is the kind of language that's been going in the country for 200, 300 years where it's the politics of victimization. and so for this particular congressman to say it is of no surprise. i think the party establishment is quaking in their boots over this kind of language because it means their tent gets smaller and in a day and age where their tent gets smaller their days become numbers, if you cannot figure out how to broaden your tent for non-traditional republican voters e then you lose. >> this is the pertinent question for republican representatives and senators across america as they go home in august on vacation in meetings. do you agree with that, congressman from mississippi? are the democrats waging a war on whites?
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and in "pretenders" tonight, dufrmed, donald trum. for the first time he want tos take his name off a company. in the beginning, the donald had nothing, but confidence about his atlantic city casino. >> opening day, donald trump in typical understatement is calling the eighth wonder of the world, the trump taj mahal. donald trump has to take in $1 million a day at the taj mahal just to break even. he's convinced the casino can make it. >> well, it didn't make it. his namesake went belly up and now he wants to chisel the big letters off. trump filed a lawsuit to dump
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his name from the two hotel and casino properties in new jersey. trump says he's no longer controlling the failing businesses he founded and now they're hurting here's what really is hurting trump's image. >> we are being abused by china. they are manipulating their currencies. they are taking all and i don't mean like a little bit. they are taking tremendous numbers of our jobs. >> ties? where are they made? >> beautiful. >> great ties. >> where are they made? >> china. >> the ties are made in china? [ applause ] >> if you are going to be the president of the united states you have to be born in this country. there is a doubt -- >> he didn't kill bin laden. he gets credit for that. he said, all right, let's get him. why does he get so much credit? i don't view myself as having failures. >> it's hard to wreck a casino. the house always wins, unless you're trump. in donald trump thinks a pair --
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since robert taira openedsion king's hhis first bakeryd, in a small hawaiian town. making bread so good, that people bought two loaves one to take home, and one to eat on the way. so good, they grew from here. to here. to here. but to grow again, to the east coast they needed a new factory, but where? fortunately, they get financing from ge capital.
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we not only have teams dedicated to the food industry, we're also part of ge, a company that's built hundreds of factories. so we could bring in experts to help king's hawaiian make sense of transportation routes, supply chains, labor pools, and zoning to help them make the right decision. and, i'd like to think, to make their founder proud. if you just need a loan, just call a bank. at ge capital, we're builders. and what we know, can help you grow.
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>> the number three trender, big endorsement. >> president bill clinton had a busy day raising money and asking for votes. >> i choose allison. i think you will, too. >> former president clinton stumps for allison grimes in the bluegrass state. >> i love kentucky. you voted for me twice. you have been good to hillary. >> clinton's aim to shift the conversation away from the baggage of today's national democrats. >> i am not an empty dress. i am not a cheerleader. i am not a rubber stamp. >> the number two trender, apparently a star. >> i have never been on live television before. >> did you ever expect to go to the fair and be a superstar? >> no. i did not expect that. >> a chatty 5-year-old becomes a viral video sensation. >> people all over the world know the name noaw ritter. >> i really have never had any
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people like me. >> the soon to be kindergardener is a global phenomena. >> it's like a thousand drops of heaven. >> where did you learn the word "apparently". >> i don't know. maybe from my mom. i don't know how to spell it. now can i be done? >> today's top trender, busted. >> republicans are not giving up on the crusade to roll back labor rights for working americans. >> everything unions get their hands into, business didn't do well. >> the gop wants to attack it. they are scared. >> the gop's plan to take down unions is uncovered. >> the top republican on the senate labor committee said the nlrb is pursuing some of the most misguided policies under this administration. >> this is about fear of employees being able to express their rights by forming unions. >> with majorities in the house and senate, republicans say they would push back against him the most controversial rules. >> they want no one standing who has rights on the job. >> joining me tonight, leo
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gerard from the united steel workers international. good to have you with us. the republicans are showing cards saying wh they are going to do if they get the senate. lamar alexander calling the national labor relation board's policies intrusive and misguided. what do you think that means? >> i think my first response is that they are coming into the open and saying what their agenda has been for many, many years, in fact for decades. what he's saying is he doesn't want workers to have rights. they are propping up multinationals, the rich and powerful. if you look at the continuous attack on the labor movements since reagan was president, compare it to the growth in inequality. you could look at the fact is that as the labor movement has been attacked, income inequality has grown. what they are doing is coming out of their shell and telling what their agenda has been. it's the wrong agenda. one of the spokesmen that i
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heard on the clip talking about reunions destroying things, we have lost more jobs to the reagan and bush agenda. we have lost more jobs to the rotten trade deals than anything they could ever try to pin on the labor movement. from my own union, we work with employers to save them. we are before the international trade commission working with employers in paper, tire, steel and in rare earth to save jobs. i don't see republicans there. >> mr. gerard, what do they have against the nlrb? what policies are intrusive and misguided. they are pointing to an ambush election. if there is something written in the work place to have an election that the time would be cut down so there wouldn't be infiltration or influence by a group that the employees would be able to vote on this in a timely fashion. is that intrusive? what about that? >> let me just say in most advanced industrial democracies,
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when workers want to join the union they sign a card or petition. when a majority of them signed the card or petition, most other industrial democracies, they get a union. in america, what they do is get all kinds of delay tactics, interventions. they get captive audience meetings where the foreman for the plant brings in workers one at a time. they tell misrepresentation. they get to drag elections sometimes for six, eight months, a year, year and a half, two. what the nlrb says is it's not fair. if people submit under the rules a substantial number of cards or petitions to join the union there ought to be a vote within ten days. in most other democracies the vote is when the person signs the card or petition. >> they are off base and telling america what they think of wage
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earners and what they will do to dismantle efforts in the work place to have are a better living. good to have you with us. we'll follow the story for sure. that's "the ed show." "politics nation" with reverend al sharpton starts now. good evening. >> good evening, ed. thanks to you for tuning in. we begin with breaking news tonight. a humanitarian crisis and planning for a possible military action in iraq. nbc news reports president obama is now considering air strikes and humanitarian air drops to help tens of thousands of iraqi civilians who are under siege tonight by islamic terrorists. the militant group isis trapped up to 40,000 members of a small religious minority on a mountain top in northwestern iraq. >> they are unable
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