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announced his authorization for targeted air strikes in iraq and air drops of food and water to 40,000 people trapped on a mountain top. ben rhodes spoke tos msnbc. >> the united states will take whatever action is necessary to protect our personnel, and so e aisle is a terrorist organization. if we see them threatening our people we're going to act against them. in terms of broader counter terrorism -- >> the administration said the air strikes are about protecting our people. is it what it's all about? >> what they're trying to emphasize is that this is a multipronged but limited offensive. humanitarian aid and important first step where they were able to air drop some supplies.

really emphasizes it's about protecting u.s. interest. in part because the want wants to keep it in limited in scope and mindful that the public is weary about any regaining of military momentum toward action in iraq. a limited strike at this point. now the president has reserved the right, of course to continue this should there be additional threats to u.s. personnel. you talked about there's u.s. entities and interests in baghd baghdad. if there were a threat there, you could see something potentially happen. what the white house is certainly trying to do is convey this as both humanitarian, necessary to protect u.s. interests, at the request of the iraqi government seeking this help but trying to send a message that the president doesn't intend to put u.s. boots on the ground. there was the strike this morning, as you reported with two 500-pound bombs. our understanding is the f 18 have been removed from the theater not actively pursuing

anything right now. the operation has the authority to go forward should there be additional interests. we don't yet know what the status is of these strikes on the artillery that was the main target here. so, jose, it's about trying to show there needs to be some level of action but trying to put it in sort of parameters that the public will find acceptable. there's criticism, of course, from some on capitol hill who believe the president should have acted sooner or more forcefully. and that this does present the possibility of being a situation that could escalade. that remains to be seen. it's a decision reached, as we understand yesterday, the president dressed the public and there will be more to say today about how it's being carried out and the scope. that's where many questions will be. how broad could it be. how potentially dangerous could it be? and the white house wants the message to be limited and humanitarian. >> kelly, thank you. the crisis in iraq has steadily been growing worst for

months now with the isis terrorist group driving christians and other religious minorities from their homes by giving them the choice convert or die. isis militants took over the city of moez l in june. it looked like they might take baghdad. isis fighters moved east and west. they've been terrorizing people in the towns. right now 40,000 christians, 40,000 christians and members of a religious sect are trapped on a mountain. joining me from iraq. thank you for being with us this morning. tens of thousands of iraqis have fled to the turkish border to escape isis. describe to us what the situation is there, like, right now >>well, right now the majority of the people fled yesterday. it was yesterday during the

night and then yesterday during the morning when we saw several follow fall into the hand of isis militants. that prompted tens of thousands of christians to flee from the areas. at the same time, tens of thousands of have been displaced from their homes last sunday. fled from the area where they were -- the turkish border. they were concerned that isis would reach the areas. right now the mountains where many of the christians fled their homes yesterday morning are now sheltering. >> we're showing some of the

pictures you put up on your twitter feed, which illustrate how massive this problem is right now. and these people that are leaving their towns and villages do so because they fear isis, which are ruthlessly a lly aid logically group that takes no prisoners. >> absolutely. it's been proven for a long time in syria before and now in iraq. they have entire communities that have been leaving in northern iraq for thousands of years. they have driven entire

communities from their homes. just yesterday morning, several towns were taken over by isis. i was in three of the towns the day before yesterday, tens of thousands of people there and yesterday morning they were empty in the space of a few hours. yesterday afternoon a refugee camp full of people who fled mos mosul. thousands of people left in an hour because of isis. fled the area state department. several were killed in front of them. others there's no news. we don't know if they're alive or dead. also, people's fears are well

justified. >> thank you so much for being with us live this morning. let's go to baghdad, the capital of iraq. the associated press is standing by. we were hearing how the situation was desperate, chaotic, dangerous in areas like erbil and mountainous areas toward the turkish border. what is it like in the capital of iraq? >> to be honest, it's pretty calm, you know, considering relatively speaking. it has been calm for several months now compared to what has been happening in the north and west of the country. people concerned by the progress that the islamic state group has been making over the past few weeks since the take over from mosul by fighters from the islamic state group shook people

in baghdad. i was describing it an exposed artery now. the river and the dam. it struck close to home for people yesterday. and so, you know, while there is a lot of reluctance to have the americans back in house and, you know, kind of dropping bombs from the sky or anything for that matter, any kind of intervention, a lot of people are relieved today because they feel like at this point in time, the government here -- the kurdish government up north cannot handle the threat that we're facing now. >> certainly. we have seen the army in iraq not really make play a major role in defending the country against isis so far. vivian, baghdad bureau chief for the associated press. thank you for being with us this morning. let me bring in patrick murphy. good to see you. >> you too, thank you for having me. >> the president vowed not put

american combat troops on the ground in iraq. saying there was no military solution. you say it will be tough to do without boots on the ground. what do you mean by that? to drive isis completely out the towns and areas the areas they have held because they're getting more and more powerful. what i did say is i anticipated the air strikes happening. what the american people want to know is there a clear danger to america right now with isis? and the answer is yes right now when it comes to the american personnel better in erbil, which is where the air strikes happened with the f 18 navy fighter jets that dropped bombs on the artillerye tili are drope forces there. there was a clear present danger. but the we question is does it mean we're all in? sending more boots on the ground? we have about 700 american

military personnel in iraq right now. i think the answer is no i think that's what president obama was speaking last night and hintsing it wasn't going to happen. >> yeah. a we start thinking about this. the iraqi army hasn't done squat to defend the country from isis. does the united states have any allies in the areas? is it time to arm the kurd? >> we have allies in the area. we're friending with the kurds. one of our strongest ally is north in turkey. you see a lot of refugees fleeing there. at the end of the day, it's an iraqi solution. we need them to stand up. . a lot of sunnis desserted. because they have no confidence in malikmaliki. he needs to step down. he's a shia leader who only lead the shias. he's disenchanted and persecuted a lot of sunnis. that's why they're not willing to join forces to kick out isis

which are to the right of al qaeda. the political solution, which everyone is calling for will not happen if mall loiki is still t. that's what the frustration we feel right now. >> patrick murphy, thank you for being with us. >> let's go to jim mick chef ski. he has more on the breaking news story that united states carried out air strikes. jim, good morning. can you hear me, jim? >> i can now. for some reason i lost it. the air strikes today conducted by two u.s. navy fa 18 off the aircraft carrier george h.w. bush in the persian gulf, the first two shots and what are likely to be a long string of air strikes by the u.s. add

specific individual targets. no one is looking at some kind of huge world war ii kind of bombing barrage on the isis forces, only because they're so dissipated. in this case today, this artillery piece, apparently, we're told, had been firing at forces around the erbil area. earlier in the day. what made it a target for the u.s. because that technically the u.s. personnel at the consulate and the u.s. military advisers in erbil were actually within range, we're told, of the artillery police which put them in danger. when instituted a threat against the americans which complied with the president's orders when to conduct the air strikes. it was a green light for commanders to say this fits all the parameters, those are the bad guys. they're firing weapons. take it out. and that's what happened. >> and, jim, i wonder and the

tens of thousands of people that have been stuck on the mountain, mount sin jar. they are receiving water and basic food supplies. they have to come down some time and isis is waiting for them. what happens when they have to come down. >> u.s. military planners are looking ahead to possible more humanitarian air drops like the one that occurred last night on the top of the sin jay mountains. the president alluded to the fact that the u.s., if necessary, would launch air strikes against those militants. the isis militants a the bottom of the mountain you were talking about. if they pose any kind of threat, he said that the president said that the u.s. would be able to launch air strikes in conjunction or in support of any

iraqi move to break that siege. we haven't seen so far any iraqi forces moving in that direction. don't know if that's even likely. but like these air strikes, it appears that in terms of assisting and providing some kind of protection for those refugees on top of the mountain we're in it for the long haul. thank you so much for being with us this morning. friends, i've got to tell you, it's a developing story. we're going to be covering throughout the remain of the hour. coming up, a rough night in hawaii. tropical storm iselle rolled in and tropical storm julio is behind it. we' . and the breaking news this morning in iraq. there's a gap out there. that's keeping you from the healthcare you deserve. at humana, we believe the gap will close when healthcare gets simpler.

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more now on the breaking news this morning. u.s. air strikes over iraq less than 12 hours after the president announced military authorization. the target isis terrorists attempting to slaughter a religious sect called the gee tee. the former chair of the foreign affairs committee. congresswoman, thank you for being with us. >> let's talk about this bombing that happened a little while ago. your reaction. >> i support the president. i think this is long overdue. the iraqi leaders have been calling for the u.s. to act to help them as they're fight against this terrorist group that is, as you said, to the right of al qaeda. and they want to slaughter christians, any religious minority. >> they've been doing that already. >> they've been doing it. putting their heads on a stick. and it threatens our neighbors and u.s. national security

interest in jordan and all the neighbors. so we're worried about isil's march toward total domination. they want to establish the call fate, the islamic state. we have to take action. it's a humanitarian mission and limited air strikes. i think too limited. >> what do you mean by too limited? there's the issue of mission creep. iraq hasn't been a good place for americans to deal with. the government is pretty much in paralysis. they have not defended the country against the trosists. >> i'm not defending what al maliki has done. we're moving on, and what we see a section of iraq that has been so pro u.s., the kurds, and we thought the kurds can take care of isil. we see isil taking over the those sections and threatening the kurds. it's an oil-rich area as well as

good u.s. allies. once they struck there, i think that got the president's attention. thinking my gosh if they're going to take the area. these are good fighters. they can defend their own. we hope there is something good is 0 going to come of this. those who supported the president in syria, when we said we're going to do limited air strikes, and we said, okay, we're in. and then he pulled the rug from under us and said, okay, we're going to get congress to act and then he went away. so he needs to stay in this fight. we need to get this done. isil is a threat to u.s. national security. >> i want to shift your attention toward the middle east. in egypt hamas and israel has been talking and the 72-hour cease-fire ended and the rockets started coming. >> the reality is israel has honored every cease-fire. they have said silence will be met with silence. but when they hear bombs, they will respond with missiles as well. hamas is a terrorist

organization, you cannot equate it with our true democratic ally, the jewish state of israel. they want to defend themselves. israel has every right to defend itself. hamas wants to destroy vale. >> we understand that. the problem hamas is in gaza, which is a highly densely populated area with civilians, men, women ab and children. when israel attacks the hamas target, many times they are hitting innocent civilians. >> only because hamas wants them to hit innocent civilians. that's the reality. i passed a bill in the house condemning hamas for the use of civilians as human shields. they launch attacks from schools, from mosques, from hospitals. and then they say, look, israel is throwing bombs at schools and mosques and hospitals. and they have underground tunnels where there's a infrastructure of machinery to destroy israel. >> can something be done to help in the situation which doesn't

seem to have a peaceful endi ii possibility. >> we need to pressure them to divorce themselves from hamas. and then let's forge this peace with the palestinians and let's marchalize hamas. hamas is going to be outnumbered once they see the palestinian people are aligned with israel. that's the only answer. >> i have to shift you to immigration reform. you weren't able to do anything before you went on the five-week break. the crisis on the border continues. you are only one of a handful of republicans that voted against removing daca. what is the solution there? it seems as though many in congress talk but the proof is in the pudding and there's not good pudding on immigration reform. >> that's true. but there wasn't good pudding for the democrats when the democrats controlled the white house, the house, and the senate for two years the president said he was going to make immigration reform a israelty and he did

nothing. >> 2014. >> right now what we can do, we're going to be passing an immigration bill thanks to your brother who is founded on conservative principles. no one jumps over anybody else who has been in line. we're able to get people right with the law. >> when is it going to happen? >> mario and paul ryan and good leaders are working every day toward that. we hope it will happen. >> what will it take? >> i think the dreamers have been a positive impact for our community. they are as american as apple pie. they don't have the papers, obviously. this lets them get with the law and be part of the arm ed force and contribute to society and be students. that's a good thing for us. >> florida congresswoman, thank you for being with us. coming up we'll have more on the breaking news strikes against a terrorist group. who is isis and why do they want

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the yezidi religious minority were forced to flee. it they are fleeing for their lives. joining me now is professor of threology at florida university international. >> great to be here. >> let's talk about the e zee de. they refuse to assimilate to islam. one of the problems -- it means god in ancient persian. other, problems with thoughol s. they believe on seven angels. they are dependent on the. one thing they alienated them the great angel that the symbol to the arc angel is the peacock. the angel does things that equivalent to the satan of the muslims. they think of him as satan war shoppers. >> it was accepted by god later

when he came back. let's focus on today. this is a fascinating theological conversation. why are they vulnerable. who are they? why is isis after them. it seems they want to wipe them off the face of the earth. >> isis is a muslim extremist group. anybody who disagrees with them are vulnerable. in this particular shape. let's be truthful. they've been persecuted by the ultimate empire. this is not the first persecuti persecution. they're vulnerable to being extinct. >> let's talk about isis. it's odd, you know, when you think that al qaeda thinks that this group isis is a little bit too dogmatic and crazy for their own liking. first of all, can you negotiate with these people. can you try to establish a way of living together in peace and harmony? >> no. these guys are believe their hay

or the highway. they kill anybody who disagrees with their extreme ideology. >> what is their mission? to get syria? >> stay there and call fate. they believe they're going to extend the rule to the entire muslim world and the entire world. these guys believe they are the true successor to islam. they're the true believers in islam and islam will be able to imitself on the world through their interpretation. >> i want to show video coming into msnbc. the mount sinjar area. so many tens of thousands of ya z ya tee zee are in the area. she has seen how towns and refugee camps empty out when they know isis is coming. this reality, in the middle east, where are the american allies? who do we deal with? how can we get out of this

situation? and avoid mission creep an avoid u.s. boots on the ground when there's the potential of again side? >> yes. i like the fact you used the word genocide and we need more action. >> what do you mean? >> isis is a tremendous let. not only to iraq but the entire region and us as well. i think, unfortunately, we need to avoid mission creep boots on the ground. here is the problem, isis is such a horrible threat to all of us. and not only to the sunni, i mean, the shias in iraq. the entire muslim world. they want to take other. they don't accept any kind of comprise. essentially it's kill or be killed. we're between a rock and hard place. let me be blunt. we have no true allies in that region. many sunnis are flocking to isis because they believe the isis represent the elimination of the shia. many people are give the money

and support. not only land power but support as well. who do we trust in the region? which side do we become involved with? if we fight against the isis, everybody else and everybody else. >> and the turks will because they have the issue. >> exactly. all we do with the other sunni countries in the region is a tough place for the united states right now. >> florida international university though logan, thank you. an extraordinarily complicated situation. let's bring in michael mcfall. the former american ambassador to russia. these days he teaches at stanford university. he's an msnbc contribute per. thank you for being with us. we were listening to the professor. the whole complication there. your specialty is ukraine and russia. and what i want to bring all of this in together because these are issues that the united

states is dealing ining with. then the ebola. this is a lot that the white house is having to deal with. >> absolutely. lots of crises around the world where the administration has to react to actions of others in the places you described. it's a challenging job but i think they're doing a competent job in responding. it's the principle job of the national security advisers and the council. i worked there for three years before going to moscow, they're the ones that need to cover drain responses to all of these at the same time. >> and you think in the case, for example, of ukraine and russia. there are diplomats you talk to, people to negotiate with. but then in iraq you have isis. we heard about them. it's my way or the highway and the highway means your head is on a platter. there's no way to deal with them. how do you sit down, how do you

deal with, how do you find a solution to something when isis is involved? >> well, you don't. and i think this is, as a former diplomat, this is a weakness for the united states for us. we tend to be like engineers. we want to go and we want to solve problems and negotiate. that's our instincts. that's our tradition. there's some problems and some actors in the world you cannot negotiate with and not solve the problem through negotiation. most certainly this threat in iraq and syria today is one of them. that's why i think the president was correct in authorizing these two operations in iraq yesterday. >> this is not a problem that will go away any time soon, right, ambassador? >> that's right. it's not going to go away any time soon. and the.was careful that he does not want to have boots on the ground there. he feels very -- he's clear way back in 2002, by the way, that he wanted to get the united states out of wars not to expand

to other ones. at the same time, we have to be enga engaged. we have to engaged in this case militarily. but on the world diplomatically. the world wants american leadership to help manage some of these problems even if we can't solve them. >> and what a problem we're dealing with. michael mcfall, former american ambassador to russia. and msnbc contributor, thank you. we'll stay on top of the breaking news and get the latest from the white house next. also, we'll be checking in on the latest from hawaii where they're bracing for major flooding from two storms. so we gave people the power of the review. and now angie's list is revolutionizing local service again. you can easily buy and schedule services from top-rated providers. conveniently stay up to date on progress. and effortlessly turn your photos into finished projects with our snapfix app. visit angieslist.com today.

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back to the breaking news out of out of iraq. we got new video of american humanitarian aid to the ya zee tee people with the u.s. drop ing two 500 pound bombs for targeting the group. less than 12 hours after the president announced military authorization for the strike the strike was carried out. thank you so much for being with us kristin kewell kin. >> thank you for having me. in a written statement the mrs. has been consulting closely with

congress about events in iraq over the past number of weeks and additional consulted with congress on the actions. consistent with these consultations, we will comply with any applicable reporting requirements in the war powers resolution to break down what that specifically means, the administration has 48 hours to alert congress about these military air strikes if they deem that to be legally necessary. so we should anticipate that happening with within the next day or so. that's a key point here. the president has been and the white house has been in close consultation with congress. before president obama came out and addressed the nation last night. it marks a major shift in policy. the president ran on a platform in ending the wars in iraq and afghanistan. if you look at the polls, the public doesn't have an appetite for reengaging in the middle east. white house officials say in this is stance president obama felt action was necessary for

two reasons. one, because u.s. interests are threatened. there's a u.s. consulate in erbil. you have the extremist forces moving on to erbil. because they say it's about a humanitarian crisis. preventing a genocide. you heard president obama use the term last night. you have about 70,000 people religious minorities who are trapped on the mountain top who are driven out of the foams who don't have access to food, water, dozens have already died including a number of children. the president felt there was a humanitarian call. more broadly it's about trying to save iraq. if erbil is threatened and baghdad falls, specially all the gains made in iraq will be lost. the president, white house officials believe has the legal north to do this consistent with international law. they requested the health and

commander in chief they would argue he has the right to protect u.s. interests. we're getting reaction from capitol hill hill house speaker boehner saying he supports the president's decision to take action here but overall he sees as a fill your of the broader administration policy similar response coming in from conservatives like senators john mccain who say that there should have been a residual force in iraq after 2011. of course, that's been a big debate here in washington. that is some of the early reaction we're getting. white house officials in meetings behind the scenes trying to determine their next move. >> kristin welker thank you. coming an international crisis on ebola. big news from the world health organization. we'll bring that to you next. when folks think about what they get from alaska,

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outbreak an international public health emergency. it killed more than 900 people there. the head of the world health organization said the international community needs to take notice right now. >> countries affected to date simply do not have the capacity to manage the outbreak of this size and complexity on their own. >> an infectious disease specialist in cleveland, thank you, doctor, for being with us this morning. in liberia, they cut off large parts of the country. can countries like liberia contain the virus there? >> it's hard to say. the capacity for containing an outbreak like this vary from country to country. it requires a lot of equipment and people, which is why the world health organization has made the declaration, i think, liberia and other countries will likely need our help.

>> and you talk about terrible that is important. workers running out of containment supplies. what will that mean for the fight against the virus? >> it makes it competingly dangerous to be a care giver for an ebola patient if you don't have the personal protective equipment. one could imagine it could cause some health workers to refuse to report to work. they're not going to be properly protected from the parents. >> the cdc promoted it to the highest level. what do we know it means for here? >> the cdc will be an important center for testing samples, for instance. so this increase in response will hopefully mean a faster turn around time for some of the samples processed from of a caf. it will mean more apodemologists and people to help with

coordination, which should hopefully allow us have a more accurate idea behalf is going on and where it's happening. >> here's a question i've had for awhile. they brought out a spanish priest from west africa and took him to spain. he's critical, but he seems to be getting better and the two americans seem to be getting better. why are some people surviving this and 70 to 80% not? >> that's a great question. if we could answer that question, we would have a lot more information than we currently do. with all the viruss, we know that the individual immune response is very, very important. there's no therapy for this. and so it's up to the individual person's immune system. and we do know in this virus and other viruss, through research that has been done, that some people have a stronger immune response and some people seem to lack it where the immune system makes things worst for them.

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good morning, everybody. i'm in for tamron hall. this is "newsnation." breaking news the u.s. has begun air strikes in iraq president obama authorsed from the white house last night. u.s. officials tell nbc news that two u.s. war planes dropped two 500 pound bombs outside the city of erbil. the u.s. has a consulate there. erbil is also the capitol of the kurdish region. deputy national security adviser spoke to msnbc a short time ago.

>> we have in people in erbil. if isis is allowed to advance anymore. it puts our people at risk. the president made clear we're going to take limited air strikes necessary so there's a perimeter around erbil. >> besides air strikes, president obama authorsed u.s. planes to deliver supply on a mountain in northern iraq. >> today i authorize two operations in iraq. targeted air strikes to protect our american personnel and a humanitarian effort to help save thousands of iraqi civilians who are trapped on a mountain without food and water and facing almost certain death. earlier this week, one iraqi in the area cried to the world there is no one coming to help. well, today america is coming to help. >> and with that l