did it big. >> hello! >> his movies grossed more than $5 billion. that's billion with a "b." roles like "moscow and the hudson." >> when it becomes necessary to, what is it? >> we hold these truths to be self-evident. >> that all men are created equal. >> that they're endowed by their creators. >> with certain inalienable rights. >> these are -- >> life. >> liberty. >> happiness. >> then came a turn for the serious in "the world according to garp." >> it's a lovely place, lovely. just the ticket for young marrie marrieds. my firm will even finance the mortgage. >> my mother's paying for it. she's become a firm these days. well, what do you think, helen?

is it a home? >> you folks all right down there? >> yeah, i'm okay. we're all right. are you all right? >> i'm fine. you minds if i use your phone? >> sure, if you can find it. >> thanks a lot. >> we'll take the house. honey, the chances of another plane hitting this house are astronomical. it's been predisastered. >> then came genius comic turns in "good morning vietnam." >> good morning, vietnam!

hey, this is not a test. this is rock and roll. time to rock it from the delta to the dmz. is that me, or does that sound like an elvis presley movie? oh, viva danang. >> and "mrs. doubtfire." >> oh, come on. hey, hey, hey. oh, my god, it's clotted. oh, god. this smell like burnt rubber. god, it's hot in here. [ screaming ] >> then back to the serious in "dead poet society." >> a lot of you look forward to this as much as you look forward to root canal work. we're going to talk about shakespeare as someone who writes about something interesting.

many of you have seen shakespeare done like this. oh, titus, bring your friend hither. if any of you have seen mr. marlon brando, shakespeare can be different. you can also imagine maybe john wayne as macbeth going, well, is this a dagger i see before me. >> in the late '90s, he won an oscar for his role in "good will hunting." >> you've never looked at a woman and been totally vulnerable, knowing someone that could level you with her eyes, feeling like god put an angel on earth just for you, could rescue you from depths of hell, and you wouldn't know what it's like to be her angel, to of that love for her, be there forever through anything, through cancer. and you wouldn't know about sleeping sitting up in a hospital room for two months,

holding her hand because the doctors could see in your eyes that the terms visiting hours don't apply to you. you don't know about real loss because that only occurs when you love something more than you love yourself. i doubt you've ever dared to love anybody that much. >> even when you didn't see him, you sure heard him in "aladdin," where as the voice of the genie, he ad libbed so much. >> rule number one, i can't kill anybody. so don't ask. rule number two, i can't make anybody fall in love with anybody else. rule number three, i can't bring people back from the dead. it's not a pretty picture. i don't like doing it. other than that, you got it. >> provisos? you mean limitations on wishes?

some all-powerful genie. can't even bring people back from the dead. i don't know, abu. he probably can't even get us out of this cave. looks like we're going to have to find a way out of here. >> excuse me? are you looking at me? did you rub my lamp? did you wake me up? did you bring any here? and all the sudden you're walking out on me? i don't think so. not right now. you're getting your wishes, so sit down! in case of an emergency, the exits are here, here, here, here, here, here, here, anywhere. keep your hands and arms inside the carpet. we're out of here! >> for us at nbc, robin was a frequent visitor to the "today" show, and in the '80s and '90s, he held court with his pal, the great gene shallot. >> we only have about a minute left. could you tell me your entire life? >> here's my whole life, okay. i took this improv class. i had a fabulous time.

my economics, down the tube. i wrote my whole final in one line. that's this black line? my final. thank you very much. started performing comedy in stand-ups late night with people getting shot up. but it's okay, it's okay, it's just comedy. comedy is easy. dying is hard. and then we work our way through that. then i get "mork and mindy." then the "dead poets society," then we'll talk about other movies. too late now. working our way up. then awakenings and then mrs. doubt fluff. that's what i've been doing for so many years. that was basically my career in a nutshell. >> that's sensational. that was one of the most bill yabt things i ever heard. >> yes, robin was a comic genius, but he was a trained actor, and one of his classmates

at julliard was christopher reeve. his pal robin helped bring him back to life. if robin was your friend, he was there during good times and bad. >> he came here one afternoon and just -- thank god i wear a seat belt in this chair because i would have fallen out laughing. in the middle of a tragedy like this, you can still experience genuine joy and laughter and love. anybody who says life's not worthing is totally wrong, totally wrong. >> here to talk more with us about robin is kate coyne, executive editor of "people" magazine, which is coming out with a special tribute to robin williams. the new issue hits newsstands on friday. thank you very much for coming in. from the president to co-stars, to all of us around the table, we've all been weighing in with

our favorite memories of robin williams. you think he'd be surprised by the outpouring of grief and memories of his acting roles? >> i don't know if he'd be surprised. it's obvious he was in the darkest place you could possibly be. so the love that people had for him, it wasn't enough to stop him from what he did. you know, i think one of the most interesting things given that in just the past few hours the details of how he died from now been released, his wife's initial statement, i think, is what people need to come back to, which is not focusing on the way he died but instead the way he lived and the joy that he brought to so many people, in which case it's not at all surprising this is the reaction people are having. because he brought joy and magic and humor, even in dramatic roles. i found it interesting that clip of "dead poets society" actually focused on a moment that was largely improvisational, which

happened in nearly all of robin's films, where he almost couldn't resist the urge to go into a little bit of humor, a little bit of comedy. there was rarely a role he played completely dramatically and straight. it was who he was. everyone who met him, everyone we spoke to for the magazine said that he never met a stranger. within hours, minutes of knowing him, you felt as though you had made a lifelong friends. >> and you feel as if you know him. most of us don't know him personally, but the minute you heard the news, we were talking about it earlier, you felt so sad and emotional as if you personally knew him and loved him. my favorite movie is "mrs. doubtfire" because he was the best of the best at impersonating people. i used to watch that growing up as a little girl. i was so mesmerized by him. i thought, there's no way that man can be playing that many characters. let's actually take a look at the film. >> i do voices. yeah! we've come to this planet look for intelligent life. oops, with e made a mistake.

we're happy to be in america. don't ask for a green card. i want you in the worst way. it's a rough meeting and it's not going very well for me. i'll tell you that. hey, boss. give it a chance. she's going to loosen up any moment. look at me right now. i want to undo that and get to know you. i'm crazy to make a deal with you! nancy and i are still looking for the other half of my head. i'm sitting on a gold mine. don't make me smack you, sweetheart. i'll do it. >> this is true genius. you have to get in someone else's mind set to be that good. you have to be so good that even your spouse doesn't recognize you. and he did that better than anybody. >> he did. and i think actually it's interesting you saying that "mrs. doubtfire" is your favorite film. the other thing that can't be stated enough about robin williams' appeal is it was multigenerational. you grew up in the '70s, '80s, you loved him from "mork and mindy." '80s into '90s, there were the kids' films.

every single decade this man had a film that spoke profoundly, very often more than one film that spoke profondly to that generation, to that audience. "mrs. doubtfire" was a huge film for children of divorce. the couple does not get back together in the ends. it was notable for that in that era. so children of the '90s, children of divorce feel a real connection with that film. obviously "dead poets society," a profoundly impactful film. very emotional. and he goes on to do "good will hunting," where one of the nuances of that character is his character works a lot with veterans. that's something robin williams in his own life did as well. tons of uso tours. so this is a man whose career spans decades, but whose success spans decades. this sort of longevity is virtually unheard of, let alone the fact it branched over comedy into drama, into incredible charitable work. he was a phenomenal, extraordinary man. >> and one of the other, i

think, elements of his appeal is his fearlessness. he just dives into comedy and goes places nobody else could even think to go. then also even in some of his dramatic roles, really digging very deep. i wonder who are the heirs apparent to that kind of fearlessness and comedy today and who's been coming out saying how much they're inspired by him? >> not right now. i think that really robin williams came to prominence in an era that comedians were rock stars. we haven't really had another return to the steve martin, bill murray, robin williams heyday that saw the birth of robin williams to a large degree. but obviously you look at someone, you know, like chris rock, like kevin hart, like the comedians who are starting to become movie stars in their own right, and i don't think there's a performer alive right now, certainly not one that has any roots in comedy or improvisation, that isn't inspired by robin williams. >> you talk about growing up on him. when i was a kid, i had every

line to "aladdin" memorized. he was so amazing in that. watching chose clips, you see the power of his voice without seeing him personify. you say it's a time to focus on that and all the gifts he bestowed us. also in the news, we cover health care. you think about people who can't afford to get health care. the problems here associated with depression often are a different type of problem, which is even people who have health care face a stigma. 25 million americans according to the national alliance on mental illness will suffer some sort of depression episode this year. and half won't get treatment. often that is because of this stigma. you break your arm, well, you need to see a doctor. you have some other type of internal problem that is just as medically severe, just as potentially dangerous or more so, and a lot of people, even with the science of what we know today, feel that's not something to treat or don't know how to talk about it. talk to us about how because people do obviously identify so

much with entertainers, with celebrities, whether a moment like this is a time for us to also look at how people can get treatment they need. >> yeah, this is shattering and has the potential to really open a lot of people's eyes. unlike someone like philip seymour hoffman, who had his own struggles and issues, but who ostensibly died of an overdose, whether it was intentional or not, won't be known. it was a drug overdose. so much of robin williams' struggles that people thought they knew about and understood were ones of addiction. when the news broke last night, i think a lot of people thought, oh, god, he might have overdosed. in the chris farley vein, the john belushi vein. that was the story robin himself most publicly embraced. he talked about those addictions. he talked about those struggles. it's very clear that something else was going on here. that he was struggling profoundly with depression as his own publicist said. you're absolutely right.

it's not something that he made abundantly clear that he talked about to people. it's not something that goes without a stigma to this day. and it will be tremendous if that can change. if celebrities become as comfortable with saying, i have to go to rehab, which they've become comfortable with. i mean, that stigma has largely been removed. people will own the fact that they are struggling with drugs and alcohol. so if there's any hope, it's that maybe the way that once people were ashamed or embarrassed to say they had to get help with their addictions to alcohol or drugs may now say, i have to get help with my mental illness. this is something that i need to get help with. >> and there is no shame in going to get the help you need or talking to someone, anyone in your life that might need that help or that consultation. >> yep, absolutely. >> kate, thank you for coming in. so we say good-bye to our friend robin williams. he leaves us with his genius and people from 8 to 80 have enjoyed and will enjoy him on the stage he dominated for 40 years.

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this is utterly disgraceful and underscores the degree to which isil is, you know, so far beyond the pale with respect to any standard by which we judge even terrorist groups. that al qaeda shunted them aside, and that's why they represent the threat that they represent. >> john kerry today detailing just how extreme the enemy is in iraq. the image we're about to show you is disturbing, but this is who we are dealing with.

the secretary of state was referring to this photo of a 7-year-old isis child reportedly holding a man's severed head. isis is now pushing south, closer to baghdad, as the u.s. continues to bomb targets to the north. there's also uncertainty as prime minister nuri al maliki refuses to step down. this as thousands of yazidi and christian refugees are still desperate for aid and away out of the conflict. one of the iraqi helicopters delivering aid crashed at takeoff near erbil with two "new york times" journalists and members of the iraqi parliament reportedly on board. nbc's duncan golestani is there. duncan? >> reporter: yes, that helicopter crashed as it was trying to take off, killing the pilot and injuring some of the people on board. there are conflicting reports as to why it happened, but one iraqi official said it might have been because so many refugees were trying to get on board. we know from pictures filmed

yesterday of similar helicopter rescues just how desperate the yazidi people are to get on to those air lifts to get away from mountains where they've been hiding out for the last week, desperately fleeing isis fighters. today a u.s. drone attacked an isis mortar position just north of sinjar, close to syrian border, that had been trying to target kurdish peshmerga forces who are defending the refugees. those u.s. air strikes making a real difference where they happen. not only allowing the peshmerga to move into open spaces, away from isis once convoys have been destroyed, but the fighting is still continuing in parts of the country. further east we're getting reports of violent clashes, and fourth south, too, towards baghdad. >> nbc's duncan golestani, thank you.

let's now bring in jessica lewis. she spent 15 months on the ground in iraq and is doing some amazing work at the institute for the study of war where she's research director and lead analyst for the organization's portfolio on isis. jessica, we're thrilled to have you. now, you definitely are an expert, specifically on isis. you've called them an entrenched strategic adversary. it feels for some of us that isis came out of nowhere. obviously you've been writing about them for a while. the white house has been criticized for underestimating them. are we underestimating them, and is there a way out of this? >> i think the estimates now are actually quite accurate. the very dire circumstance is that this organization that has reconstituted military strength is present in many places in the deserts and in the cities in iraq and syria. active simultaneously on multiple fronts and calling the terrain they're beginning to consolidate, which includes mosul, a caliphate.

it indicates they have a post-war vision to make this caliphate state a reality and that the present moment is one where we don't just have a humanitarian crisis as isis persecutes minorities such as the yazidis, but actually one of an expanse of military that wants to establish itself permanently. >> isis is operating on two main fronts here. you have the classic military front, but also the political front where they provide state functions. this is what you wrote about them. you said, isis is forbiddable, but it's also predictable. isis has exposed my of the core elements of its strategy, and it is possible to anticipate their next step. what does that tell you about what their ultimate goal is and what their next step is to get to that ultimate goal? >> well, certainly. they've declared their ultimate goal is already manifest. when they said they established

the islamic caliphate last month. it's a strategy by isis to consolidate its strength, particularly between two major cities, mosul and erbil. from a military perspective, i expect isis is actually trying to defend territory at this point, which is the capability that i'm actually looking to see how well they can do that. but from an isis point of view, in order to have the caliphate they have declared, they need to be able to hold mosul, which as i mentioned and thank you for quoting the report, means that their plan is predictable and their requirements are exposed. >> to the way you're looking at it, emphasizing that we should consider isis as a potential state and the security ramifications, in your view is it clear whether the current administration can live with and has internally decided it can live with isis as a state? i would reference george bush sr., who both waged a war against saddam hussein but also had a strategic conclusion, one

that proved wise, that we were still better off containing and living with a saddam hussein controlled iraq rather than going into baghdad. later presidents would learn what happens when you do the opposite. can you say whether the u.s. internally has a position on whether we can live with an isis state? >> well, i can't say from the inside, but just listening to statements such as the one that you played from secretary kerry a moment ago, i actually think that the consensus is that isis is a very real threat and a permanent isis is a very serious national security concern. what i do see, though, however, is that the progress to move through a political outcome for a unity government in baghdad and disruptive attacks that protect erbil and protect minority populations in particular does not actually close the gap to answer the question about how the defeat of isis will be brought about and whether or not security forces on the ground are actually capable to pursue that.

so i haven't seen that gap close. >> jessica, you've said isis is a very real threat, but you've warned that u.s. air strikes in northern iraq could actually be dangerous to u.s. interests in the larger region of the middle east. why is that? >> well, this is a very delicate time where we have many interests on the line. not just the unity of iraq long term as a political goal, but in fact as a security strategy. that if the peshmerga and iraqi security forces, for example, are not fighting a synchronized fight, then i don't expect they're going to be as successful as they could be against isis, and in particular, if that strategy does not involve the sunni population that is currently existing within the heartland of iraq and syria, that isis is trying to control, i don't see any of those ground strategies succeeding. so the danger that i see with air strikes alone, the present configuration doesn't seem to be tipping this vulnerability, but concern going forward is if

those air strikes actually compromise the interests of the sunnis who might some day fight isis, then it works in a counter fashion to a strategy that will ultimately defeat isis long term. ultimately, air strikes is a balance to maintain. >> jessica, thank you so much. up next, the politics of all this at home and in iraq. and still ahead, everybody's favorite. shark week swarms "the cycle." you know.... there's a more enjoyable way to get your fiber. try phillips fiber good gummies. they're delicious and an excellent source of fiber to help support regularity. mmmm. these are good! the tasty side of fiber. from phillips

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r -- at update on the ebola outbreak. west africa is now deemed a public health emergency of international concern. that is according to the world health organization. more than 1,000 patients are now dead. the w.h.o. is also giving the green light to unproven treatments saying their use is in this circumstance ethical because of the way the outbreak is unfolded. now one u.s. firm is racing to increase production of its exteere experimental drug, which seems to be helping those who american patients who were brought back to atlanta recently for treatment. >> and in tennessee, a major step back for supporters of marriage equality. a circuit court judge is now upholding the state's ban on same-sex marriage. this is the first time since last summer's doma ruling that a ban on same-sex marriage was not struck down in a constitutional challenge. now back to iraq and its political impact here at home and abroad. president obama is publicly supporting the newly nominated iraqi prime minister al abadi and urging al maliki to give up

his fight. of course, at one point, the united states was publicly backing al maliki too. sending mixed messages is just one of the criticisms being levelled at white house foreign policy. as we talked about on monday, hillary clinton criticized president obama's inaction in syria, blaming that for the rise of isis. but privately, the president has shot down suggestions he should have armed syrian rebels earlier, telling lawmakers that was horse -- well, that it was wrong. this should all make for a happy day tomorrow where obama and clinton will attend the same party on martha's vineyard. that's where we find nbc's chris jansing, who's traveling with the president. all right, chris. give us a sense of what president's been doing today. >> hi, jonathan. right now he's on the golf course as he has been each day since he got here. but this morning he was briefed by his national security team. he made a couple of phone calls to leaders of canada and turkey. obviously, there's a lot of concern about the internal political turmoil in iraq and the fact that nuri al maliki

went back on television today. he shows no sign of wanting to step down as prime minister. so the u.s. among other things is dangling more aid to iraq if they get this new government in place, including more money and more military help, short of boots on the ground. there's also this domestic political situation that you referenced, jonathan. that is the criticism that we've been hearing from hillary clinton. this is not a big surprise to the folks on barack obama's team. they knew it from her book. but i think that what really wrangles them is the timing of it. obviously the president is not just dealing with the situation in iraq and syria, but also the gaza and ukraine. so they think the timing couldn't be worse. you can imagine how many people would like to be a fly on the wall tomorrow at vernon jordan's birthday party for his wife. we knew hillary clinton was coming here for her book signing. the question was, would her path cross with barack obama's? the answer to that apparently is yes, jonathan.

>> yeah, because they're all good friends with the jordans. chris jansing, thank you. for more, let's turn now to john stanton, buzzfeed's washington bureau chief. john, so my colleague at "the washington post," dana milbank whose headline goes something like the president vacations while world burns. should he not be on vacation? should the president not be on martha's vineyard at this time? >> i mean, you know, look, he obviously is able to be briefed on things and make decisions from martha's vineyard. so on a practical level, i'm not sure how much of a difference it makes. from an optics point of view, i do think it matters. i think people overseas look at that and think it's a little odd. certainly domestically, you know, americans always find it to be a little bit strange when president isn't back in washington when there's a major crisis going on. i mean, if we look at the katrina incident where president bush was very slow to react and these kind of things, the optics do matter for them. and it does have an impact ultimately on policy. when they start to have to deal

with these kind of fires, these public relations fires, it destrakts from their ability to effectively put in place a policy. >> yeah, and then when you look at this discussion between president obama and his former secretary of state hillary clinton, a lot of folks are getting confused about it and reading it only as her disagreeing with him on syria. i think there's actually two distinct pieces here. one, should we have done more to arm the rebels or intervene in syria? something the president was interested in doing and then pulled back as we all know, especially when congress wasn't interested in authorizing it. and two, does what happened or didn't happen in syria embolden isis. john, i know you're a close reader of these things, so you probably read the jeffrey goldberg interview, which ran 17 pages. what she says clearly is, i don't know the answer to whether or not isis was further emboldened. we also have something else that is substantively useful here, which is her rather voluminous book about her time at the state

department. if you punch in on amazon, according to their search, the book doesn't mention isis or isil ever at all. so during her most recent and contemporaneous review of that period, she definitely was not saying that she had a strategy for the rebels or otherwise that would have prevented isis. and to be fair to her, john, in her statement here, she's not saying it would have prevented isis. are people misreading this as all about isis and why today's crisis could have been prevented when that's not necessarily what clinton said? >> to a certain degree i think. i don't know that isis was much of a concern to anybody when she was still at the state department. maybe a few people that had seen the them coming. at that time, the syrian opposition to assad was still very much -- a lot of folks, everyone in the world seemed to support. >> free syrian army. >> yeah, the free syrian army. i think isis came out of the chaos going on there, the jihadists saw it as an opportunity to step in and build

a base of operations. i think she's walking a line. she's trying to distance herself from him without undercutting hip, i think. we in the media sometimes take that to mean she's undercutting him because it's a much better story and headline, frankly. i think she's also trying not to totally undermine the president on this right now. >> yeah, i think that's right. john, so the president has made two big promises here. one, that we will not have troops on ground in iraq again. and two, that we'll help rescue these thousands of yazidi refugees who are now coming down from the mountain but still in a very, very bad and difficult situation. how difficult is it going to be to keep both of these promises given that there is really no certainty as to what's going to happen next? even he's said the next steps are going to be logistically very complicated. is he setting too high of an expectation here? >> he may be. i mean, look, you move these people off the mountain, move them into kurdistan, what happens if isis is able to make a major push into kurdistan? you're going to start having to move people from, you know, not

just these folks but everyone else there. you're going to have a major humanitarian crisis there again. so i think that, you know, this notion we can save everybody without actually committing b t boots on the grounds is a tricky thing -- >> because what if you do if for whatever reason you have to sends over a few troops? then you're in a really bad position. >> yeah, i think he's going to avoid that as much as he possibly can. i'm sure they've had some kind of advisers already on ground, at least in kurdistan and maybe in baghdad already working with folks behind the scenes. they don't want to have another recommitment of troops. they don't want to have more americans dying in iraq. that's going to be something that they try to avoid at absolutely all costs. >> john, there have been a lot of critics out there talking about what the president should have done or isn't doing. is anybody out there talking about what the rust government should be doing to try to help support iraq as it's forming this new government and the newly nominated prime minister? >> you know, it's easier to be criticize the president on things like this than it is to come up with an obvious

solution. i think, you know, senator mccain has been very aggressive in saying that we should be throwing much more support behind the military in iraq, the kurdish military, trying to get maliki to go. i think most folks understand this is a very, very difficult situation that the administration is facing. trying to influence, you know, even a very stable government that has decades or at least several years of normal operations is a hard enough task, but the iraqi government has never been much more than dysfunctional to begin with. so trying to go in and have a major influence on what's going on right now is already a difficult task when you take aside the fact that you have this major military disaster going on. >> that's right. john stanton, thank you. >> thank you. up next, new clashes and new protestins over the death of michael brown. we'll go live to missouri and talk about what can bring this community together next. (vo) friday night has always

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cycling now, emotions are running high once again in the st. louis suburb, today over the police killing of michael brown, an unarmed black teen on saturday. this afternoon, protesters gathering again outside the st. louis county prosecutors officer. the brown family attorney alleges that police basically executed brown in broad daylight. a 22-year-old who says he was with brown during the shooting told msnbc.com that brown tried to surrender to the police before he was killed. to be clear, police dispute that story. they say brown had an encounter with an officer, which included a struggle over the officer's gun. protesters turned violent for the second time last night. police in riot gear firing tear gas and rubber bullets back at protesters who were reportedly looting and throwing rocks at those same police. nbc's ron allen is live in ferguson with the latest. ron, what can you tell us right now? >> reporter: well, there's a lot of concern about what's going to happen here next. fortunately, last night was relatively calm compared to the

night before. only about 15 people arrested. but a lot of people are trying to process what's going on here. as you can see behind me, there's a group of residents it here milling about. some are holding up signs encouraging cars to honk their horns as they go by. there are a number of activists down here trying to calm people down and urge them to take a nonviolent course going forward. honor the legacy of michael brown, respect his parents by not burning down and destroying your own neighborhood. respect them is what so many people have been saying. that seems to be happening. the violence really has tapered off from what it was a couple nights ago. of course, every night is different. there's also a lot of concern about the investigation going forward. today there have been demands that the fbi take the lead in the investigation away from the local authorities. there's just no trust here. and one issue that has emerged front and center is this question of who the officer is who fired the fatal shots. the department is now not releasing his name. the police chief has said there

were death threats against that individual as well as others in the department. so he doesn't think it's a good time to do that. the family of michael brown and others see that as a lack of transparency as the police perhaps trying to hide something. so right away here we are in the early stages of what's going to be a long investigative process that there's going to be a long dispute, which is not to be unexpected, but gives you a sense of the level of distrust in this community. a community that's predominantly african-american, yet all but three of the police officers on the force are white. so there's a long history here of distrust, a long history of tension, and they're trying to work through that. later tonight, we expect the mayor and perhaps the police chief to be at a public forum to discuss the issues. we'll see if they show up and we'll see how that goes. >> all right, ron allen. thank you very much. ron mentions michael's family talking about a desire to avoid nonviolence.

to avoid violence, i should say. they spoke with msnbc's al sharpton last night. let's take a listen. >> all it does is put a red flag on what we're trying to do. his legacy shouldn't be about looting, stealing, kicking police cars. the only way to get justice is for us to stay calm and let the judicial system work. we'll get the right results, and that way his death won't be in vain. >> wesley lowery is in missouri covering the story. tell us why these types of individual incidents can strike such a nerve here. >> of course. the key thing is the history here in ferguson and the racial dynamics. the majority african-american

city with majority white police force. we've seen, you know, some incidents of both violence but also a big disparity in terms of who's getting pulled over, who's getting charged with crimes. we're seeing real racial disparities there. so i think that that's a big part of what we're dealing with here. >> all right. wesley, thanks for joining us with the limited time we had on a busy news day. we're going to continue to watch the situation there in ferguson. stay with us. more "cycle" still ahead. 'm goi. [ male announcer ] new crest tartar protection rinse. the only rinse that helps prevent tartar build-up and cavities. a little swishing. less scraping. yes! [ male announcer ] new crest pro-health tartar protection rinse. it helps you escape the scrape. we're changing the way we do business, with startup ny. we've created tax free zones throughout the state. and startup ny companies will be investing hundreds of millions of dollars in jobs and infrastructure. thanks to startup ny, businesses can operate tax free for 10 years. no property tax. no business tax. and no sales tax.

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just when you thought it was safe to go in the water, it's back. shark week is back and for 27 years now discovery channel has been teaching us about these amazing and misunderstood animals and of course, showing amazing footage. >> lone vertical attack. jaws reach maximum width, pinning prey to the surface with no escape. >> unbelievable stuff. i've recently had my own encounter with a shark when i got to swim with the biggest of them all, the whale shark. if shark week has taught us one thing, these predators get a bad rap. in fact they have to worry about us more. for every human killed by a shark, 20 million sharks are

killed by humans, sadly some of these sharks and other marine life are killed by nets and wrecks after being trapped and this year discovery channel partnered with ghost fishing, a group dedicated to removing this material from our oceans, we have the u.s. coordinator, heather mom sa and chuck cobb zach. how much of a problem is this? >> this is happening all over the world. ghost fishing has projects going on in 17 different countries and estimated that there are 640,000 tons in the world. >> we often think of sharks as she's mean man eating predators and here they are going against trash and wreckage and losing that battle. >> that's right. they are very intelligent and effective predators, they are

not able to overcome the fishing gear put in the ocean designed to trap them. they may go to feed on something caught in the net and entangled themselves. >> we think that the seas are full of sharks, but apparently half of the species of sharks and rays are either threatened or actually becoming extinct. how big a role does something like shark week playing in in helping to encourage conservation efforts? >> just last year, 53 million people watched shark week. that's a great opportunity to educate people about sharks and bring this problem to their attention. >> yeah. it's really incredible stuff. this is as much as an environmental problem as anything else, right? >> the major problem with these nets, they are not reported and washington state there is mandatory reporting which is something that we would very much like to see happen in california as well as the rest of the world. however, these nets are not reported. the other problem is that they don't degrade and hem p or nylon

net would take 50 to 60 years to break down and for all of these years, these nets will continue to trap and harm and kill marine life. we have no idea. we will never know the full impact. >> jonathan, it reminds me of spitting a piece of gum out of the car and don't think about the consequences. >> you mentioned that earlier today when we were talking about this segment. there are laws against littering and i'm wondering, are there any maretime laws that prohibit dumping nets and other material that's down there that's killing sharks and other creatures under the sea? >> in washington state as i said there is mandatory reporting. the northwest straits foundation has done incredible work with their local government and fishing in estuaries and probably impact it less so in an open ocean environment such as

the west coast of california. but we do need to have mandatory reporting and in all fairness, i think a lot of time these nets are not lost on purpose. they are fishing around structures such as ship wrecks and under water reefs and these nets get caught on the structures and fisherman can't bring them up so they have to cut them. they are not necessarily losing them on purpose but the devastation is still the same. >> chuck, hopefully a lot of people will see this and recognize it's a problem. what more can they do? what advice do you have to make the situation better? >> i think a big piece of information that people need to kind of take in, they need to really educate themselves about where if they choose to eat seafood where it's coming from. and ideally, you would try to -- only consume seafood that was being harvested in a way that was as least damaging to the marine communities that they are fishing in. but that's really about all we can do is that, or you know, if

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>> don't shoot! >> we're seeing a boiling over of anger and frustration. >> what do we want? >> justice. >> they believe this was an innocent young man gunned down execution style in the streets of their city. >> the police allege that michael brown essentially caused this. >> the fbi is investigating for potential civil rights violations. >> there are only three black officers on the police force out of a force of 50. >> ferguson police will not release the name of the officer who fired the shots. >> the death threats started to come in the social media situation is so volatile, it will delayed for a little while. >> you have a young man that is dead and there are no answers. people are upset because of the lack of transparency. >> there's a dehumanization of black teens. >> and vendetta on the street. >> this is why so many people see america as what they call a