tv Andrea Mitchell Reports MSNBC August 13, 2014 9:00am-10:01am PDT
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don't you, steve? you just put your lips together and blow. >> good day. i'm andrea mitchell in washington. a lot of questions about iraq. let's go to the white house broefing where questions are being asked and answered. >> a safe space where they can receive more permanent assistance. what the president has done is authorize the deployment of roughly 130 u.s. military personnel who will assess the situation on sinjar mountain and northern iraq. they will make recommendations on how to get people off the mountain and into a safe place. you heard prime minister cameron indicate today they are cooperating with us in those efforts as well. again, these 130 personnel are not going to be in a combat role
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in iraq. they are there on a temporary basis to make assessments about how to get the population off that mountain. this would be a humanitarian effort to get them to a safe space. there are different ways for doing that. we have not made decisions about how to carry out that mission because we want to get the readout from this assessment team first. >> what do you expect the president to get recommendations from his team? >> i think relatively quickly here in a matter of days. some of them have been able to escape but, again, we want to get options in place to move them to a safer place. there are a range of ways for doing that. again, we're going to be cooperating with kurdish forces who are operating in the region, other international partners and, again, our goal here is to work with the iraqis and with international partners so that these people can get off that mountain to a safer place.
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again, we don't believe that that involves u.s. troops re-entering a combat role in iraq. it involves, frankly, a very difficult logistical challenge of moving folks in danger on that mountain to a safer position. >> but there would be some danger to u.s. personnel involved in that mission like that? >> well, look, any time you have -- even now as we speak, we have pilots flying over iraq. that always carries with it a danger. so in any effort, there are always dangers involved. i think the key point here is that the u.s. forces -- the role of u.s. forces is not one of re-entering combat on the ground. it's how to provide humanitarian assistance to this affected population. again, in terms of the actions being taken, those are in the form of air strikes. jim? >> if they come under fire and a mission is launched, it would be
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combat. >> well, look, bottom line, force protection is always -- >> joining me now from erbil, that was benjamin rhodes. duncan is joining me from erbil. this is an advance group. there may be a rescue mission. what you've been witnessing up there is a really a biblical-size exodus, tens and thousands of people trying to escape the isis onslaught. >> reporter: yeah, that's right, andrea. several thousand christians and yazidi community have made it down to refugee camps north of the country but still the united nations estimates between 20 and 30,000 are still stuck in those mountains around sinjar. they have no food, they have no water and they have no shelter from the scorching sun. the international aid is saying
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they have dropped 27,000 gallons of fresh water, 100,000 meals for the people up there. but still the people here, although they are grateful, say much more needs to be done. they say the yazidis have been persecuted. kurdish politicians saying it's a genocide. the yazidis that have made it to safety to the refugee camps have said, what's next? they don't think they can ever go home, andrea. >> duncan, will it make any difference in the american troops come in? i mean, obviously the concern here in the states is the mission creep but what we're seeing there is so tragic, so desperate, and so violent. i mean, isis is a force that is beyond violent from what we've been hearing from the refugees. >> yeah, well, the peshmerga
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forces have been doing a valiant job. they have opened a corridor for the yazidis to move back into kurdish iraq. isis has u.s.-made weapons that they took from the iraqi army. they have long-range weapons and heavy armored vehicles, something that the peshmerga don't have. they have never come up against an enemy like this, an enemy that welcomes death, that isn't scared of injury, that actively thinks it is a good thing because of its religious belief. and now we're hearing that isis fighters are adapting the way they fight on the ground in turn places because of these u.s. air strikes. for example, in some places they are not traveling in convoys anymore because they know they are more likely to be targeted and in some areas of central and northern iraq, they are trying
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to blend in to the local communities finding shelter with sunni arabs who are sympathetic to them. that is going to make the challenge of targeting them that much harder. andrea? >> duncan golestani, thank you. now i'm joined by a man who worked as a u.s. translator in iraq and was visiting the state department as a member of the unofficial yazidi delegation. i believe you live in houston. you've suffered losses, in fact. i was told your brother was killed by isis at the beginning of this latest incursion. >> yes, in fact, my brother was killed several hours after the attack. i was on the phone with him several minutes prior to him being killed and i was going to call him back in several minutes to get ahold of my dad and tell him the situations and i call
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him back, nobody picked up the phone and eventually he was killed. he was shot in the head. my sister saw them shooting him in the head with her own eyes. yes. >> we are so sorry for your family's loss. >> thank you. >> i know you were at the state department. what do you want the u.s. to do? >> yes. we came as a delegate from different states from lincoln, nebraska, omaha, houston, texas, from different states, from virginia, from -- some people from d.c. and we all came together to make a peaceful demonstration at the white house and talk to the state department. it's an urgent humanitarian needs and see if we can talk to the white house officials. at the beginning we had three points that we needed to emphasize and tell the governments that we need. first, it was humanitarian aid, dropping food, water to this
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estimated number of 2, 300,000 people yazidis people in the mountain. the second was the air assault, air strikes in the surrounding mountains of sinjar. the third one is the evacuation process. >> now, the air strikes are apparently helping. the peshmerga is finally getting more ammo. even the iraqi force strikes are taking place, which is a rare coordination in the last two weeks, at least, between iraqi and kurdish forces. >> yes. >> but at this point you really need the evacuation. >> yes. in fact, the air strike has been very, very helpful, very productive for us. it's a sense that they have start to appear to many vehicles, many isis movements in iraq, especially surrounding sinjar mountains. they cannot move freely lacking long convoys like with 60 or 70 vehicles as usual.
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so as they used to. so it's been helping. the other kurdish protection units who came from syrian and kurdish regions to protect iraqis and evacuate them. they've been very helpful. but they only carry ak-47s with them. at the very beginning it was very hard to face the rgbs and heavy weapons from the isis. >> they have armored humvees and all of these weapons that they have taken over from the iraqis. >> yes. >> captured from the iraqis when iraqis around mosul, in particular, just fled and turn and ran. >> exactly. >> what we're hearing is people being beheaded, executed. what kinds of terrible -- so these isis -- >> it's a very terrible techniques. they try to remember, they are terrorists. they try to spread the terror. they try to scare people.
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and so they kill people first and then they cut their body to pieces and then they film them. they picture them. i'm not sure what kind of therapy that is for them. it's a psychological factor. we still don't know what it leads to that. but we do believe that some kind of religious study they do and there's a long process that they do to become a leader in isis so they can do that. >> thank you very much for coming in and thank you for your service to our military in iraq. >> you're welcome. >> and the best of luck to you and your family. >> thank you very much. thank you for having me here. >> you bet. and in torrential downpours, weather news, from a storm syst system drenching the east coast, record rainfall in long island, including one foot in the town
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confrontations. more violence was a mile away from ferguson. police say one man was critically wounded, shot, police say, after he turned to face a local officer while holding a revolver. a gun was recovered at the scene. michael brown's death has grabbed the nation's attention. on tuesday, president obama inserted himself into the story playing out in missouri by releasing a statement about the teenager's death. this, more than two years after the president told reporters if he had a son, he would look like trayvon martin. the florida teenager was shot to death in 2012. president obama said yesterday in part, the death of michael brown is heartbreaking and michelle and i send our deepest condolences to his family and his community at this very difficult time. along with our prayers, said the president, that's what michael and his family and our broader community deserve. a large part of the decision to keep the identity of the officer involved in the michael brown
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shooting private is being called into question by the leaders in the african-american community. >> the police are trying to balance the safety of this police officer with the need of the community for accountability. you have a community that is grieving and a community and their family that are demanding accountability. that police officer's name is going to come out at some point, sooner rather than later would be better. >> john gaskin is a member of the naacp board of direct fors and chair of the st. louis county branch. thank you for joining me, mr. gaskin. tell me what happened overnight and whether or not the incident that happened in st. louis county is in any way related or is it a separate shooting, as far as you're concerned?
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>> miss mitchell, thank you for having me. last night's events, from what i've heard from all news reports on the ground, was unrelated. but we will take in mind that a lot of people here are very upset and because it was within the vicinity or not too far away from here, there is a possibility that it could have had something to do with the fact that folks are upset and the tension is running high with citizens here on the ground with the law enforcement here within the communities. >> what about the decision by law enforcement to withhold the name of the police officer, i think they said it was because of security and threats. do you think that's justified or is that part of your concerns as well? >> well, to some extent. and i believe i just heard cornell brooks, our president and ceo -- >> that's correct. >> and i think he made a very god point. we've got to hold the law enforcement accountability although confidence is at an all
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time low. i believe providing that name to the family, providing that name to the community will provide some comfort at least to show there is an effort here on the ground for local law enforcement to provide some answers. right now people are looking for answers but i do believe in the local branch here, the local naacp believes very strongly that the local law enforcement needs to work with the justice department, the prosecuting attorney's office to develop some kind of a strategic plan on how all information regarding the case, because as information begins to trickle out, you're going to have some people that are frustrated. we believe that they need to develop a plan working with us on how this information will be communicated and how we'll keep tension on the ground dealt with and how do deal with people's emotions as many folks are outraged as this information comes forward. >> what about the underlying problems? statistically i'm told that
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while 63% of the population there in ferguson is black, african-american, that 92% of police searches are of suspects who are african-american, 93% of arrests. do people there feel they are being targeted by predominantly white force because of their race? >> absolutely. and this is not the only municipality in ferguson that has this problem. as i've mentioned to other folks on your network during interviews, i've told them with the 90 municipalities that have their little oversight, it's almost like the wild, wild west. here in ferguson, it's a prime example for the nation what happens when you have a police force that staff does not fall in line or reflect the demographic of the local population. and as we know with diversity, you know, this is a problem. i believe that the officers here
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look more like the population. you wouldn't have a lot of these problems. and when you -- you know, as al sharpton made a very good point last night, you've got a lot of pressing issues here in this town when it comes to race relations and how people get along. it's a very racially divided town and you've got a lot of people that have been suppressed, that are upset, that are angry and have some concerns and they want to be heard and one of those top concerns is, making sure that the police departments within the 94 municipalities have some proper oversight. and one of our grievances is, one of our demands at the naacp is we feel there should be citizen review boards for all of the municipalities. if you want to have 94 different small police departments within the local neighborhoods, then you need to have 94 citizen review boards making sure that there's proper oversight and
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making sure there's some kind of accountability and i made the point earlier today that you never go into caucasian neighborhoods where all of the police officers are african-american. if you know of any neighborhoods in america where there are white neighborhoods and everyone on the police force is black, i'd love to hear that information. but i don't think it exists. it's obama in our communities and minority communities that you see this. >> john gaskin, i was speaking to the underlying problems in those areas and even throughout the nation. thank you very much, mr. gaskin. thank you for joining us. john gaskin referred to al sharpton who was been out there helping the community deal with the problems and, of course, he's an anchor on msnbc as well. take a look at this cover. in an interview a company says
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hillary clinton is trying to distance herself from president obama for a while. check out this interview. >> her discipline, her stamina, her all ofness, her ability to project extraordinary talent. >> thank you very much. >> yeah. clearly out of the picture today president obama and his former secretary of state are going to get the chance to hash out their foreign policy differences face-to-face. they will be both be attending a birthday party on martha's vineyard tonight. hillary clinton tried to diffuse the tension by calling the president for criticizing his foreign policy in an interview. and then "the secretary called president obama to make sure he
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knows that he knows that nothing she said was an attempt to attack him, his policies or his leadership." double duty today, thanks very much to both of you. chris, this is so awkward. she's trying to distance herself a little bit. did she go too far and so did david axelrod with a tweet made it even more pointed and then an apology. >> well, here's the thing. i get that she's trying to distance herself, particularly on the things that she had legitimate disagreements with the president on. we know, andrea, on certain decisions made by this president, hillary clinton was on the more hawkish side of things. that's not a secret. so distancing herself makes sense because it's relatively consistent with what we know about her time as secretary of state and it makes sense because she wants to get distance from a nonpopular president. here's the thing.
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don't do it and then try to undo it by putting out a statement saying you weren't trying to do it. of course she was trying to do it. she used the phrase, don't do, brackets, stupid stuff phrase for a reason. that's a very closely tied to president obama so the idea that what she said in the interview with jeffrey goldberg of the atlantic, it was meant as an explicit criticism of what president obama is doing is frankly ridiculous. >> and the press secretary was just asked about all of this up at martha's vineyard. let's watch. >> the president, indeed, appreciated secretary clinton's call as he does every opportunity to chat with the former secretary of state. they have a close and resilient relationship. i think you remember in 2007 they had about 20 presidential
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debates and even after a hard fought nomination contest, the president felt strongly he wanted her to be a key member of his team. more importantly, he appreciates her friendship. >> well, yeah. and that's why david axelrod tweeted "just to clarify" -- this is before the apology -- "don't do stupid stuff" means stuff like occupying iraq in the first place. >> that was certainly the vote that obama used in the primary to beat her and so i think what we have here is the president gets that if hillary clinton is going to run in 2016, she needs to define herself and i think that the two principals here understand that. this comes, though, at a time when the world is really messy
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right now and so that's all very critical and clean and syria is a mess. there's a lot of things over there that are really messy. it takes on a resonance that it didn't have while in the book. >> and if you're doing an interview with jeff goldberg, you're doing it for a reason. this is our conversation with jeff. talking about what she said about syria this week. >> this is probably their single sharpest point of disagreement and in my interview with her she went a little further than she usually goes in noting this. i think maybe because of the last couple of weeks she probably feels and people around her feel vindicated in her position. >> chris cilizza, she separated herself over iran and was much more supportive over benjamin
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net in t netanyahu has been as we go through this war in gaz gla. this is a real inflection point on foreign policy. she knew she'd be seeing the president this week at the birthday party. >> the point of her picking jeff for the interview -- look, there's a reason that she sat down with jeff goldberg, a sort of leading foreign policy thinking and writing. they didn't reach out to chris cillizza for that interview. that's the whole thing. as i said before, it makes sense that she would want to do this and to begin the process of not owning every decision, especially some of those in the foreign policy realm that she actively disagreed with. it all makes sense. the thing that i find to be somewhat hard to swallow is the idea that this wasn't done on purpose and with a strategy to begin distancing herself from the president and this was just another interview on -- for her
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any time you have even now as we speak we have pilots flying over iraq, that always carries with it a danger. so in any effort, there are always dangers involved. the key point here is that the u.s. forces -- the role of u.s. forces is not one of re-entering combat on the ground. >> joining me now for more about the decision to send 130 u.s. personnel to iraq, wes moore, a captain and paratrooper in the army, the best-selling author of a book about afghanistan, what do you make about the decision to send 130 advisers in to plan for a possible order to evacuate those refugees that were being savaged by the isis advance? >> well, i think it's something
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that we look at and say we are not terribly surprised that it was going to happen. the idea of a limited military operations incredibly complicated not just statement but concept to understand. military operations are inherently not limited and one thing that we knew once we saw the initial entry back into iraq that the idea that those teams would need additional support, that the things that we saw on the ground would need a response team, all of those things are things that we expected going into this latest round of fighting. >> and you're going to need some troops to -- some ground forces to help the air strikes as well, which are expanding. we're seeing that the peshmerga are beginning to gain traction against isis but this is really just an effort to contain and deal with this crisis with the kur
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kurds. this is not getting at the root causes or their safe havens. >> that's exactly right. that's one of the more dangerous revelations that we've seen thus far. we are on full display right now that iraq does not have a national army there is no national army that can take care of these problems. we're seeing tribal armies and so the response team, the quick response force that we have essentially has been made up now of american and british and australian and soon to be french forces. that's the situation that we have in iraq and that's really what the danger looks like going forward. >> i've been talking to officials and two intelligence officials who think that the real isis threat is now spreading. they are beginning to take hold in larger regions. they don't fear that they would
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actually attack the mosul dam, the infrastructure since they are beginning to move towards a governing role because it could very quickly become a threat to jordan as well. what do you think the u.s. should do about this? >> as we continue to see their movement going east from syria and throughout western iraq, they were really met with no opposition. you know, the -- particularly the sunni iraqi fighters. remember the iraqi national army really put up no resistance or force against them. a lot of that acceleration and growth and confidence has come from the fact that they have had a lot of early and recent battles. the truth is that this is not done in isolation. there needs to be an international response to what is happening and the degree to it is kinetic versus nonkinetic is up for debate. but unbelievably force like isis who is continuing to penetrate
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further into iraq and also to stabilize the neighboring countries is something that has to be addressed and addressed with an international coalition. >> and could not have happened if maliki had not been such a failure as a leader and the sunni leaders working with us, not against us and his own military. >> and for him, this is all very much intentional. you know, nouri al maliki never had a desire to have a unified iraqi government because if he did, he would have governed differently. so to see this transpiring, it's heartbreaking because when you think about the leadership or lack thereof that nouri al maliki brought to the situation, the chance to come up with a new type of future for iraq, what we're seeing in many ways is chickens coming home to roost, looking at the history of al maliki's leadership. >> wes moore, thank you so much. thanks for being with us. cuba is celebrating fidel
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you know, steve, sometimes i know exactly what you're going to say most of the time. the other times, the other times you're just a stinker. >> she was incomparable. actress lauren bacall died yesterday. she was 89 years old. she was cast in that first movie role "to have and have not" with humphrey bogart. a story book marriage that ended at the age of 57. bacall's career spanned decades. she won two tony awards and an
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honorary oscar. tom brokaw first met the actress in california. he recalled this today on the "today" show. >> she was never, never not interesting, never, ever someone who had a big entourage of some kind. she was always betty bacall. >> known as betty, she is now joining me by phone is george steve stevens jr. and sally quinn, both friends of betty bacall. george, first to you, you are a producer, father of the statemefamous george stevens producer. were those first films with humphrey bogart what created lauren bacall? >> absolutely. when you think that she made her
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first film in 1944, she was 20 years old and she's really been part of american life for 70 years, a public life. and the first two, some would say they are the most memorable of all. but she maintained a career which isn't easy for an actress. really over a period of seven decades. >> and when we talk about her work, first there were those movies with humphrey bogart and then he died and she ended up marrying again. sally, you knew her in new york when she moved to new york. tell me about the betty bacall who became your friend. >> she was -- she was such sort of a larger than life character and i met her with my husband, although he wasn't my husband at the time, on the dunes and ben was so completely overwhelmed
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and dazzled by her and he and betty disappeared into the bins together at this fireworks that george had and nearly broke up our marriage. but she was always joking about how ben was the only guy she'd ever met who looked like bogie and finally it became a joke and we became very close friends. but what i loved about her was that she was -- she acted leak a normal person. you know, as tom brokaw was saying, she didn't have an entourage. she was always just there. she came, spent the night, she would come for dinner, she would hang out with our friends and there wasn't this movie star thing that she did, which is, i'm more important than you are and i have five hangers on around me all the time. and i think a lot of the people who -- i'm in east hampton right now and a lot of the friends, this is where we met and where we saw her a lot. a lot of her friends would say,
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you know, she's really one of the only movie stars that we can be friends with because she doesn't put on movie star airs. she was a great friend. she was a wonderful friend. and always considerate, always calling, always wanting to know what's going on. >> and in a classic case of six degrees of separation, of course, her second husband, jason robart jr. played your husband in "all the president's men." george stevens, you, of course, were involved with her kennedy center honor. the life work that really entitled her to that highest of american cultural awards. >> well, it was not only motion pictures, which she had that long career, but she had a great career on broadway, including two wonderful musicals, woman of
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the year, six degrees of separation based on the movie my father made with -- >> right. >> -- with katherine hepburn and spencer tracy. she won toniestonys for both of. there are very few people that you can say are distinctive. there was nobody like lauren bacall. you know, her appearance, her hair, her voice. she had a personality that was her own. and it was both kind of a public persona and, as sally was saying, wonderfully personable, you know, as a friend. she was sultry and intelligent and vulnerable. and, you know, people who knew her just really delighted in having her as a friend.
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we have major developments today on the same-sex marriage in virginia. the u.s. fourth circuit court of appeals says it will not affect the july ruling striking down the same-sex marriage. this means legal marriages could begin as early as wednesday in virginia. lawyers for the county clerk who is defending the virginia ban say that they will seek an emergency order from the supreme court to block any same-sex marriages while the case is still on appeal. and which political story will make headlines in the next 24 hours? chris cilli sdplchltzza is join again.
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hillary in martha's vineyard this afternoon and the clintons and the obamas. just how cozy is that going to be? >> it martha's vineyard big enough for the both of them? hillary clinton and her team really only have herself to blame at this point for the fact that this is being touted as the most awkward get-together in a while. she was previously planning to be up on martha's vineyard to do a book signing for a long-time friend vernon and his wife. again, i think the way that it's been handled, if you're going to -- if you're going to distance yourself from the president, distance juyourself from the president and pushback from the obama folks that what you're doing is not exactly 100% historically accurate, just live with it. don't try to walk it back and make it awkward for everyone? >> can i just say, happy
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>> i know in life, especially when you're a woman on your own, you develop a kind of veneer that protects you. >> the great lauren bacall. we'll have more on her life and legacy. but first, it's 1:00 p.m. on the east coast and 10:00 a.m. in the west. violence in ferguson, missouri, over the shooting of michael brown. police are now asking that all protests occur during daylight hours. this, after two new shootings overnight, one involving police. a woman was shot in the head in gunfire that could have either come from a vehicle or a suspect on foot. those shootings occurred after a night of confrontation between police and demonstrators. meanwhile, the family of that unarmed teenager michael brown are defending his actions. >> my son is scared of guns. he wouldn't like that because h
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