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when you're a woman on your own, you develop a kind of veneer that protects you. >> the great lauren bacall. we'll have more on her life and legacy. but first, it's 1:00 p.m. on the east coast and 10:00 a.m. in the west. violence in ferguson, missouri, over the shooting of michael brown. police are now asking that all protests occur during daylight hours. this, after two new shootings overnight, one involving police. a woman was shot in the head in gunfire that could have either come from a vehicle or a suspect on foot. those shootings occurred after a night of confrontation between police and demonstrators. meanwhile, the family of that unarmed teenager michael brown are defending his actions. >> my son is scared of guns. he wouldn't like that because he wasn't raised like that.
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and for someone to say he tried to take a pistol from them, there's no one in in country that could make me believe that because that's false. those are lies. a storm system made for a nightmare commute this morning. major thoroughfares were shut down. as much as a foot of rain fell in long island turning roads into flooded ponds on highways. crews were called out to rescue people trapped in their cars. and over in russia, nsa whistle blower edward snowden revealed new agency secrets. he says the nsa has a secret program called monster mind that can correspondent to cyberattacks from other countries without any human intervention. he calls the program the ultimate threat to privacy. on the magazine's september cover, snowden is wrapped in an
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american flag. he wants to come home and would even volunteer for prison as long as it served the right purpose. vladimir putin traveled to crimea today to meet with his russian security council. hundreds and hundreds of trucks carrying aid intended for help to ukraine. it's carrying baby food and generators for civilians in ukraine but ukraine is viewing this more as a threat, a trojan threat, perhaps to bring russian forces into ukraine under the guise of humanitarian assistance. chuck hagel spent the last 24 hours reminding us that we are, pinky square, not putting boots on the ground in iraq. >> very specifically, this is not a combat boots on the ground operation. we are not going to have that kind of operation. >> good thing that's supported by news on the ground. wait. what's that? oh. about 130 additional marines and
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special forces just arrived in erbil bringing the total number of american military forces in that country to more than 1,000. so again, not so much as no boots such as 2,000 boots. it's true that those american troops will not play a combat role. they are focused on rescuing those up to 30,000 yazidi refugees stranded in the sinjar mountain range. how limited is that supposedly limited mission really? joining us now, chief correspondent. how is the pentagon planning on providing this safe corridor for these yazidis without engaging in combat, as promised. >> ronan, back to your point about boots on the ground, the deputy national security adviser ben rhodes at a briefing up there at martha's vineyard a short time ago acknowledged that u.s. military may have to be on
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the ground to rescue the refugees from the sinjar mountain. from the very beginning, experts said there's no way they can conduct that kind of rescue operation with that many people, estimated somewhere between 50 to 30,000 now, without having some kind of boots on the ground. but again, they are emphasizing, this would be for humanitarian purposes, not combat. and the way that the u.s. military would protect that, is to have enough combat forces in the air, fighter jets, drones, and if any of the isis rebels made a move to interception or interfere with that operation, they would be struck from the air with the air strikes from the planes and/or drones. it appears that ever more likely that u.s. military personnel will have to step down on top of that mountain to help those
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refugees on their way to some kind of safe refuge. ronan? >> mik, thank you. nearly 100 u.s. military planes flying daily over iraq and the cia providing a new fro of weapons to kurdish troops to help defend against isis. american engagement has its ardent supporters amongst the yazidis themselves. ♪
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>> some may be calling for it on the ground but this is a growing entanglement. just how slippery is the slope that the united states of america is on in iraq. joining us now is hayes brown of think progress and right here in the studio is michael weiss. thanks both of you. michael, i'll start with you. how likely is it that these new u.s. military advisers are going to be able to cleanly avoid combat? >> it's probably difficult. the aerial campaign so far has been extremely effective for the reasons that, look, isis does not have military capability to shut down f-18 fighter jets or even u.s. drones. in the article we discussed with michael who was embedded with the peshmerga fighters. all of this equipment that they confiscated from the u.s. forces in iraq or have been left by the u.s. forces in iraq, it's very difficult to maintain.
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it requires specialists and people on the ground that isis does not have. rather, the greater threat from isis is russian-made machine guns which can be used not just against transport helicopters that the iraqis and kurds have been using to transport people out of mt. sinjar but also against ground forces. look, if the u.s. does put in any kind of forces, it's very likely that there are going to be fire fights. >> you have also written, why the u.s. bombing mission in iraq may go on way longer than planned. how long could those operations keep american personnel in the country? >> that depends on two things. one, how long it takes to rescue the yazidi from mt. sinjar and how long we have military advisers on the ground. when obama announced the authorization for these air strikes, his main defense is that there are some on the ground in iraq.
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they require defense. so long as isis remains a threat to those advisers, should isis regain momentum, that's how long the campaign is going to continue. >> of course, the perhaps the most slippery entanglement of all is genie that is hard to be put back in the bottle. >> if you look at the case in syria, freor instance, one of t main reasons that they were able to arm these, there is no danger of that happening in iraq unless, of course, isis kills the kurds and takes their weapons. the kurds have proven to be pretty formidable. what we are hearing is that actually giving them more of these materials -- and by the way, it's not just us doing it. the brits are running in soviet equipment. i just heard this before coming
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on the show. from eastern europe. peshmerga are very loyal to the united states or i should say very secular and anti-extremists. they have no time for groups like isis. if erbil falls, this was one of the greatest success stories of intervention stories going back to the early '90s. if erbil falls, that would be a major catastrophe, not just for the kurds but for the entire region. >> there are people desperate for this kind of u.s. support. but hayes, how does america accomplish that and prevent this from becoming the next afghanistan? >> the kurds have no support for isis. they are great fighters except for the unfortunate route at mt. sinjar. the best thing we can do is have advisers on the ground to train up the iraqi military such as they are to advise the kurds and
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help them maintain these weapons once we deliver them to them as long as they don't fall in the hands of the extremists. as long as they are vetted, it's the best that you are going to get into the region so i don't see much of a chance of the weapons falling into the wrong hands here. >> certainly we don't have a lot of options to turn to. thank you, appreciate it. >> thanks. coming up, these are images from ferguson, missouri, a town that has become something like a police state. no fly zones. we've got the latest details about what the tragic death of michael brown is signaling and what it tells us about race in america right now. stay with us. your 16-year-old daughter
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ferguson police asks that any group that wants to assemble in prayer or protest do so only daylight hours. st. louis county officer critically wounded someone early this morning after police say the victim pointed a gun at an officer. just before that, a woman was wounded in an apparent drive-by shooting a few blocks away in a residential neighborhood. police were already patrolling around ferguson using tear gas to control crowds. this is the third night in a row that residents have taken to the streets protesting saturday's shooting death of an unarmed black teen, 18-year-old michael brown. joining me is charles hadlock. thank you for coming on the program. are police expecting more violence tonight? >> reporter: well, the residents are hoping not. the police department issued a statement today asking the people of ferguson to refrain from meeting at night.
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they say they are trying to offer a place for people to grieve safely and to voice their frustrations in a peaceful manner. and to that end, they are asking that people not gather at night for protests or prayers. they say that several people have co-opted the nighttime events and turned them into more confrontations with police. that's something that they are trying to avoid tonight. it's not a curfew but it's the next thing to it. ronan? >> charles hadlock, appreciate it. here's the thing. this explosion of racially charged violence didn't come out of nowhere. take a look at the numbers of how divided this community is. in 2013, black people made up 67% of the population in ferguson and were targets of a remarkable 83% of car stops. all the more striking, look at just how long it's been like that. all that explains why a full 93% of arrests following car stops in this community were of blacks. according to the most recent annual report on racial
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profiling by the missouri attorney general. as a nation, what can we do? what do we have to do to stop this cycle? josh dubois, former spiritual adviser to president obama and lisa bloom, legal analyst for v avo.com is joining us now. >> what we know is that when that police officer confronted michael brown jr., he likely didn't see a young man who had strived against the odds to go go college next week and friends saw him as a gentle giant who had never been in a fight. he saw a big, black threat. not a human being but a threat. he took an action that he never would have taken against someone that he actually saw and
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actually knew. and it's the case over and over again, with eric garner in new york, with george zimmerman. we have to have a conversation about how people perceive black men and about the broad humanity of black people in this country. and until we get to that root issue, these things are going to keep happening over and over again. >> look, i think it's important to note that as a reporter here, we're still finding out the facts but certainly according to witness accounts, it's really troubling. >> lisa, you wrote a book on the racially charged reaction to the trayvon martin case. what kind of changes do we need to see on the law enforcement side to stop this cycle? >> we need a lot more sensitivity training. the programs in effect in some cities actually work because they undercut the widely held stereotype of the black man as criminal and i think that was a play here. that was a play in the trayvon martin case and so many others. you point to statistics from
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missouri which we've seen also in new york, that black and hispanic young men with disproportionately stopped by police and disproportionate to the numbers in the community. white folks are more likely to be found with contraband and illegal materials. nevertheless, police continue to disproportionately stop black and brown young men. we need to have more education. we certainly need to have body cameras or dashboard cameras in every police car, on every police officer. they are very inexpensive. if we can spend money on the war of drugs, we can afford to do this. >> we're seeing the striking numbers that you're talking to there. shall josh, i want you to react to something that lisa bloom wrote about. lisa doesn't think that's the answer. talk with one another? prayers? with all due respect, mr. president, we need more than calm reflection. we need outrage. we need change.
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as the president's former spiritual adviser, do you think there's room for both? >> yeah, i think it's both. we absolutely do need conversation. we do need conversation and we need to have a broad look at how people see black folks in america but we also need policy change as well. up until now, we never had a national database of police use of force in this country. there's a man out of harvard that is putting this together and trying to get police departments to cooperate and we need to start tracking this stuff so we can implement policies to change the way police departments operate. >> lisa, the president of the naacp was on our air earlier and said young people need to be leading the fight against this. take a listen to that. >> young people can play a vital role. why? because they are the ones frequently who find themselves on the backside of the back end of a badge or a gun. and they find their lives in jeopardy. and so we're asking young people to step forward nonviolently to make clear that they are calling
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upon those who have sworn to protect them, to protect them and respect them. >> lisa, what can young people do to break the cycle? >> i think young people should be on the streets, nonviolently, peacefully, legally protesting. we all should be. this should not be a young/old issue. this should be an issue about equality. those who don't receive racial profiling should resist the temptation to say it doesn't exist. >> the folks in ferguson and st. louis should not be using ar-15s and tear gas to people who are upset. they should be having conversations with that hurting community instead of turning that area into a police state. >> lisa, do you think it calls for weapons that are used in these local communities?
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>> we have clearly overma ti-- walking in the road instead of on the sidewalk. listen, i would never be hassled by police for something like that. in fact, i walk in the road all the time in any los angeles suburb. these are crimes only committed by the poor and when the police are overmilitarized with these kinds of weapons, we have these kinds of outcomes. >> it's upsetting. thank you, josh dubois and lisa bloom stick around. we want to get your take on this. the graphic details revealed in the press conference about robin williams' death. was it too much, too soon? and what kind of privacy are celebrities entitled to even in death?
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you know you don't have to aggravate me, steve. you don't have to say anything and you don't have to do anything. not a thing. oh, well, maybe just whistle. you know how to whistle, don't you, steve? you just put your lips together and blow. >> just put your lips together and employ and blow. believe it or not, that line was written by william faulkner. and with the passing of lauren bacall at the age of 89, it's only fitting to remember a lifetime of work that was iconic. i grew up watching movies of the '40 more than any other era. it remains my favorite and she
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was a titan at that time. that off-screen romance with humphrey bogart started when he was 44 and she was 19. their on-screen chemistry was nothing short of electric. later on, though, she said she wanted to be remembered for more than being bogart's widow and she certainly was more than that. coming up, it feels like it's 2008 all over again. >> hillary clinton and president obama have been feuding about foreign policy but hillary said they are going to see each other at a party tomorrow and they plan on hugging it out. when hillary clinton heard that, he said, oh, it's that kind of party. >> no comment. we'll talk about that right after the break. wondering what that is?
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hugging it out. that's what hillary clinton and president obama will be doing tonight at a martha vineyard's social function. hillary explained, quote, nothing she said was an attempt to attack the president of his policies or his leadership. so what was it that she said in the first place? she said a few things that suggest a pretty deep difference of policy with the president. here she is on arming elements in syria. the failure to build up a fighting force of people who were the originators of the protesters against assad were the islamists, the secularists. this left a big vacuum which the jihadists have now filled. so how could these two different schools of thought influence the conflict there? joining me now, senior white house correspondent chris jansing. she's there at the vineyard. chris, hillary clinton with these hawkish quotes.
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has that influenced the white house and their policy in iraq? >> reporter: it's been a distraction. no question about that. look, the policy itself, it's no surprise. this is what we heard at the briefing. the president wanted a team of rivals. they disagreed. he went in a different direction and it was in the book that came out in june. so none of that was a surprise. they always knew at some point hillary clinton was going to try to differentiate herself from the president and particularly when you look at his ratings in foreign policy, for example, she's going to try to distance herself on some of these key issues. having said that, the way she escalated it suggesting that that decision that he made that was different than what she would have made has contributed to the rise of isis and the crisis we're seeing now in iraq and the timing of it because what's going on in the world is not just obviously iraq. you have the situation in ukraine. you have the situation in gaza. it's really riled a lot of people.
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and i thought it was pretty telling today when the question was asked about the president's reaction to all of this and whether or not he was upset, the quote was, and let me get it exactly right, i'm not going to go ahead and get into behind the scenes here. that tells you a lot and a phone call had to be made by hillary clinton to the president that the white house put out, the deputy security adviser, a policy person, to answer essentially a political situation tells you it was a distraction, ronan. >> how does this compare to hillary's reported positions while she was apparently in the position? >> i think with a lot of issues it was either reported before her book and other newspaper accounts or even contemporaneously at the time there were times where she disagreed with the president. there's this particular issue on syria and arming the moderate syrians. i think "the new york times" had the first story about it.
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it's something she wrote about in her book. the policy is not that surprising. she polled really hard on libya trying to get the president into that coalition in the first place. we know she didn't want to go after mubarak as hard as the president did. there are other areas reported before and this isn't surprising. but at the same time, that's a question she should have been ready for, you know, and i actually think more than the islamic state answer when she said that, don't do stupid stuff is not an organizing principle, she was basically going after the president's entire foreign policy mantra and saying it's not sufficient for a president. that, to me, was an even harsher attack. >> well, let's look at what that foreign policy mantra meant that they are brewing over. the president said this to "the atlantic" back in february. when you have a professional army fighting against a farmer, a carpenter, an engineer who started out as protesters and
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suddenly now see themselves in the midst of a civil conflict, the notion that we could have in a clean way that didn't commit us military forces changed the equation on the ground there was never true. >> i think that's a viable view of what happened. there wasn't a good choice as to who to back, who to arm. that was one of the things that the president was considering at the time and even secretary clinton has said in the interview with jeffrey goldberg in "the atlantic," it's not clear that her approach would have resulted in a different outcome. she likes to talk about hard choices. that's the title of her memoir. a lot of time that suggests that these are not 90/10 decisions to be made. it's more of a 51/49. >> and certainly pandora box on the ground is anything but a clean-cut decision. chris, on that decision in the
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present day, we're learning from the white house that president obama is ramping up the support of the kurds but he's ruling out ground forces. what's next in that conversation. >> reporter: yeah. and i think there was a hard push to say, how do the differenciate between bringing in people, bringing in the military? there was never any question that they were going to have to figure out a way to get the yazidis off the mountain. it wasn't as though isis was going to disappear. we're already seeing that we're bringing in 130 new people and the question is, when you bring in even more, if whatever plan the president decides on you bring it in even more, isn't that bringing in essentially boots on the ground? what the administration is saying is these are not folks that are being sent in here to fight but the reality is, there is also something called force protection. when you go in there and you're doing a mission, there are always going to be people whose job it is to make sure and they make the comparison and i think
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fairly this is what is going on, for example, at the consulate in erbil who are going to have to be protective forces. but they are saying that in terms of actual ground troops engaging in essentially another ground war, that's not going to happen but we'll have to see in the next couple of days and it may happen very quickly given the humanitarian crisis going on on sinjar mountain, what the president is going to decide to do. >> we'll have to see if that changes and, of course, what hillary clinton eventually has to say about it. chris jansing, thanks for keeping track of that there. and jonathan allen, thank you for joining. >> thank you, ronan. just ahead, one state that you may not expect to be on the front lines of america's war on heroin but it is and what the country can learn from vermont. we sit down with that state's govern, next. [ male announcer ] ours was the first modern airliner,
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it's not a war on heroin because you take away the heroin, there's going to be more of something else. you take away the pills, there's going to be more heroin. it's always going to be a balancing act. it can't be seen as a war. the truth of it is, is that addiction is the issue. >> that was taylor, a former heroin user. in the last 40 minutes, at least one person in the u.s. has died of an opiod death. vermont has seen a 250% heroin treatment and the governor is addressing this problem. >> the time has come to stop closing our eyes from the growing heroin addiction in our front yards while we fear and fight treatment facilities in
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our backyards. >> so what can the rest of the country learn from the state battling one of its worst heroin epidemics? joining me now is the governor of vermont. there is a problem in the northeast, including in your state. why is this a problem for vermont in particular? >> well, you know, i don't think it is, to be honest. i think it's a problem in all 50 states. we are willing to talk about it in vermont because we're one of the safest places in the country where we cherish our quality of life. the other 49 states are facing it, too. listen, here's the bottom line. when we in america approved through the fda oxycontin and other painkillers and we passed these opiates out with a
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rational exuberance, we should not be surprised. it's a huge challenge that faces all of us and we've got to stop dealing with it as it is the disease that it is as opposed to a law enforcement challenge alone. >> people would not necessarily expect that vermont falls along several trafficking routes for heroin. how does this contribute to the problem in your state and neighboring states. >> it boils down to price. 80 to 90% of the folks addicted to heroin in america started with oxycontin and fda approved painkillers. now that you can't snort oxycontin when you snort it, which is a good thing, they've gone to the cheaper alternative and it's heroin. forget your hurts as you look at the disease for a moment, just use your brain on the map, you
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can buy pure heroin from south america mostly, all over american cities, cities south of vermont for 5 bucks a bag. it sells on the vermont streets in northern new england for 20 to $30 a bag. there's a huge incentive to bring this into small, rural states. >> a law enforcement and no lock zone known as the narc-pen. has that helped? >> that's right. it has. we've saved a lot of lives. listen, ultimately we've got to change our thinking on heroin in america. we've got to treat it as a disease. here's what i found. vermont has a number of problems and we're losing the battle before we even started. we have lines for treatment centers. in other words, anyone who deals with addiction in their families
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or friends know that denial -- these folks are the best denials and getting them willing to say i've got a problem and ready to go treatment is one of the challenges. what we found is we had lines for treatment, people who said i'm ready for treatment but we had no place to send them. the second problem is, the court system in america works against timely treatment. what we say is, you're busted and then we wait months and months, at least in vermont, before you get to a judge and get your punishment. what we are changing in vermont is getting rid of the waiting lines so we treat treatment of this disease the same as cancer or any other disease that you have. you're ready for treatment, we get you treatment. bring a third-party assessor in, when most likely chance to get the stop of the denial of treatment and bring in a third-party assessor who says, is this someone we should be afraid of or feel sorry for and
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be unhappy for but get back into treatment and be another productive member of society. if you agree to take the treatment option, you'll never go to a judge, the criminal justice system, we'll get you back as a productive member of society. i think it's going to make a huge difference. >> that's an incredibly valuable lesson. lesson the enforcement side and more on the treatment side. but the most controversial aspect of this is that emergency response with the narc-pen treatment. listen to this that was said earlier this year. >> because it's an escape, it's an excuse to stay addicted. i think we need to deal with the treatment, the proper treatment and not saying, go overdose and if you do, i'll be there to save you. >> with all due respect, governor, if it can save one life, why would you not support that? >> i've said my piece. >> what is your response to
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governor lepage? >> he's saying, if you have people who are really ill, go ahead and die. we're not going to treat you. listen, we have to stop pretending that this is not a disease. when my dad passed away from cancer a few months ago, he was a cigar and pipe smoker and we didn't say to him when he got sick, hey, dad, sorry, you made choices that are not very smart. we're not going to help you. that's what the governor is saying. if you've got a disease and you're down and out and you're not going to die from it, we're not going to save you are your life and bring you back to a member of society. how can you have the heart to say -- and these are our kids, our neighbors. everyone thinks heroin addiction is poor, low-income folks. listen, this is all of us. we've got addicts from every walk of life in vermont and addicts from every walk of life, every income level. it doesn't know political party, this disease.
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it doesn't know race or income qualifications. what this governor lepage is saying, go ahead and die. if we can't get it out there to save lives and move folks into treatment, i think it's outrageous. >> that's a powerful response and whatever your position is, i think people need to look at what you're doing in vermont. governor, appreciate it. for this week's call to action, weigh in on this debate. should police and first responders carry this potentially narcan life-saving drug or does it enable drug use? tweet us at #yesnarcan. kelly tweeted, narcan saved my son's life. and kate said, if we can save human lives, why shouldn't we?
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and you'd watch him and you would cry laughing and you would think i'm never going to see anyone like this human ever. it's just amazing. his brain was always thinking ten steps ahead of what he was saying. he was like the muhammed ali of comedy. oh, captain my captain, you will be missed. >> jimmy fallon paying tribute to robin williams last night. only fitting given the fact williams was often called the world's greatest talk show guest. yesterday we learned details about how the comedian died, and that was considerably less savory. you may have heard some of these clips by now. >> entered the bedroom to find
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mr. williams clothed in a seated position, unresponsive, with a belt secured around his neck with the other end of the belt wedged between the closed closet door and the door frame. >> why is it that we needed to know those details? joining me now is nbc legal analyst lisa bloom. thank you for coming back. what are the legal guidelines about what can and can't be disclosed in a case like this. is nothing off limits? >> you know, it's really up to the police officer and those giving the press conference. i don't know if any law requiring them to disclose facts like that. i think we've gone too far. this isn't a crime story, this is a private family matter. why do we need to know those details. within 24 hours of robin williams' death, we knew more about what happened than we've learned in four days since the very public shooting of mike brown. something is off here. i think the family deserves a right of privacy. as to the belt in the door and the scratches on his wrists, i think they went too far. >> what part of the public
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interest is served by knowing all of those details? what would the argument on the other side be from the police perspective? >> well, i suppose the police want to put all of the facts out there. listen, as a journalist, i generally want to know everything and am in favor of that. as an attorney here in california, i can tell you we have a civil cause of action called public revelation of private facts. if the family wanted to have a civil cause of action, they might consider pursuing that. i doubt that they would. i'm sure they want to put this all behind them. but i think public officials considerably should consider when it's a private matter, it's a suicide, it's not a crime, whether this is really necessary. >> this really steps into the often contentious debate about how protected from the law public figures should be. in going public with your life, you surrender a lot of legal protection. it's hard to establish libel or defamation -- >> i think our standards have changed so dramatically, it used
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to be that mainstream media, for example, would never show a dead body. now you see in "the new york times" and other mainstream media, pictures of deceased children even. we now really disclose everything. everything is out there in the public view. there's very little judgment anymore. but i don't know anyone who thinks it was a good idea to reveal these details about robin williams' very sad suicide. >> as you say, you don't know anyone and that seems to have been the reaction online. you look at this tweet when she tweeted why does the world need to know this? what kind of reaction have you seen and do you think a case like this could be an an mating force behind more police departments not disclosing all the gory details next time around? >> i hope it is. and i will also say as a person who has experienced suicide in my family, this was very painful to have to hear these kinds of details. i'm sure that everyone else who's in that situation is sitting there thinking why do we need to know exactly how he did it. the man did it. we love him.
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he's a beloved figure. he had a very tragic end. i think that's sufficient. >> lisa bloom, thank you for sticking around. i think i speak for all of us when we say our thoughts are with robin williams' family and maybe the conversation we're having here can be the start of a larger conversation about how police departments should handle this. >> absolutely, thank you. >> that wraps things up. thank you for joining. it's time for "the reid report". >> you know what, you just had a discussion that we were just having with the team. i 100% agree. all of that detail is so painful for the families. >> it's too much. >> indeed. thank you for making that point, thanks, ronan. coming up next, the suburb of ferguson, missouri, remains on edge as the family of michael brown demands answers from police about the fatal shooting of their teenage son. also former senator dick luger will join me to discuss president obama's foreign policy strategy. and it ain't personal. hillary clinton hugs and makes up with the president after a very public and scathing
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hello, everyone, i'm joy reid and this is "the reid report." lots of unanswered questions remain in the shooting death of michael brown, as emotions in the st. louis suburb of ferguson continue to run high. >> we stand together tonight reeling from what feels like an old wound. >> we aren't taking it no more. >> i want what you want. >> i want some policeman to stand up and say that an unarmed young man should not be shot. >> i want the truth and i want justice. >> they struck my friend in the back. it hurt him a lot. i see it in his eyes, it hurt
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him a lot. >> then former u.s. senator and senate foreign relations committee chairman dick luger will join me to discuss the foreign policy challenges facing his former senate colleague, president obama. plus, after distancing herself from her former boss's approach to foreign policy, hillary clinton goes to martha's vineyard to, quote, hug it out. we've got a live report from the vineyard. but first, another night of angry protests and chaos in ferguson, missouri, despite efforts to tamp down this week's violent flare-ups over michael brown's death at the hands of a police officer. police used tear gas to disperse crowds in the st. louis suburb where the unarmed teen was shot and killed on saturday. meanwhile, st. louis county police say around 1:00 a.m. today an officer shot and critically wounded a man who pointed a handgun at him. that happened near the site of last night's protests. around the same time police say a woman was shot in the head during an apparent drive-by shooting that also
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