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talked to said that that big police presence commanded the situation and dissipate quickly after that. it seemed to have the opposite effect and also arresting journalists and national journalists in front of other national journalists clearly to sort of fan the flames of outrage. >> jessica, we've had a lot of outrage on the protests today but what more can you tell us about the shooting of michael brown? is there anything more that you're hearing about what is happening with the investigation? >> not a lot more of what has been out there in terms of official channels. multiple witnesses have come forward who are, you know, giving the account of mike brown having put his hands up, that he didn't start it and then, you know, on the police side of
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things they are sticking by that it was an altercation that mike brown started in the vehicle and that the shot went off at that point. they are being very tight-lipped about it. the oba the only thing that changed yesterday is that even if this officer is not indicted, that they are going to release all of the evidence, transcripts, things like that and also that they will release that officer's name, again, even if there's no indictment by that grand jury. >> jessica, stay with us. i want to bring in congressman pete welch to the conversation. you're on the national security subcommittee. do you think the feds have an obligation to step in at that point? >> i think that it's the wise thing to do. i do. i'm watching this from afar like most americans but what community wouldn't be just heartbroken about a young 18-year-old college-bound man shot and killed? the community then demonstrates
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and that's a peaceful right of protest and there's almost a military response suppressing that activity. so i do believe that there's got to be transparency. there's not to be some restoration and credibility. the community has to be confident that there will be a full and fair and open and transparent investigation. they also have to be assured that their right to peaceful protest is respected. our police have a tough job but they are supposed to be -- they are peace officers. when they show up with equipment that really could be used in baghdad, in a war zone, in a local community, that's pretty provocative and i think ultimately counterproductive. >> it's provocative but the governor coming out and saying that he has two things to talk about, the operations in iraq and this crisis at home, this has become a crisis requiring national attention. jessica, take a look at something else that he said.
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take a listen. >> there is never an excuse for violence against police or for those who would use this tragedy as a cover for vandalism or looting. the local authorities and the police have a responsibility to be transparent about how they are protecting people in their communities. >> jessica, from what we know, that transparency has not been forthcoming yet. you were just speaking about how it may come later. attorney general holder has spoken about the fact that they have already interviewed eyewitnesss and have done so and other eyewitnesss say that they have not at least as of early this week been interviewed by the local officials. >> yeah. i spoke to the witness that people have spoken about, dorian johnson, the young man that was with michael brown at the time he was shot and i spoke with st. louis county police following that pretty explosive interview
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that he gave and the county police said we've been looking for him, we spoke with several friends, showed up at his house and called his attorney and he's not responding to us. it sounds like he has spoken to federal authorities at this point so it may just be a matter of mistrust of local authorities. it's not clear. >> you spoke about the provocative nature of our police officers showing up on our streets with tanks and things that we're used to seeing in baghdad, the militarization of the police force is happening nationwide and happened in response to the event in the '80s and '90s. that epidemic has come down and we've seen homicide rates in all major cities way down versus 15, 20 years ago. do we need to rethink the military aspect of our police forces nationwide?
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>> they've done a great job with community policing. community policing is at its core. and obviously you don't do that if you're showing up in a humvee. so i think it is time to rethink it but i think a lot of our police departments have been rethinking it and doing a very good job. >> jessica, as we look towards another evening here that, as we've said, will come after the president and the governor and chief of police have spoken out today, what does that do, if anything, to what you expect to see this evening? >> you know, that's a giant question mark right now. one thing that is still developing is who is going to be in charge this evening. it's been st. louis county and the st. louis ferguson police department and highway patrol serving as second department. governor nixon talked about shift in operational strategy.
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so that may include a shift in who is in charge of all this. the last rumor i heard is that it will be state patrol. they've been second in command of what has happened so far so you can question whether or not that will actually change things. but a shift is what they keep talking about. there's a lot more national and international press-up, today, i believe, and a lot more eyeballs on this and i think that they really want to keep this from being quite so embarrassing and so charged. >> indeed. jessica, congressman peter welch, thank you very much. we're waiting for governor nixon's remarks. but up next, the other big story, the president spoke about iraq. we'll go live to a man who knows a thing or two about president obama's policy. joining us will be john huntsman. how did we get him? thlook what i got.p. oh my froot loops! [sniffs] let's do this?
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welcome back at this hour the pentagon is breathing a sigh of relief about the situation in iraq. what was expected to be a rescue mission in the northern part of the country has turned out to be less dire than anticipated. the 4500 or so people who remain at the top of the mountain there can be apparently evacuated without the help of additional u.s. troops. and many of them actually want to stay. the president took a victory lap of sorts this afternoon. >> as commander in chief, i could not be prouder of the men and women in our military who carried out this humanitarian operation almost flawlessly. i'm very grateful to them and i
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know that those that were trapped on that mountain are extraordinarily grateful as well. >> make no mistake about it, they are tired and scared and still blaming us. as our own keir simmons found out. >> reporter: every time a vehicle comes down this road, they are attacking me and throwing stones. and they are losing hope, this mantels me. >> where is the u.s. army? >> reporter: then, he says -- >> duncan golestani is on the ground for us. >> reporter: there are hundreds and thousands of refugees and the yazidis coming down. many are coming to erbil. it's estimated around 80,000 arrived in the last week alone.
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they have arrived literally overnight and they were forced out of their homes 45 miles west of here because they are christian. now they are being well-cared for by the churches and kurdish government but they just don't know how long they are going to be here for. meanwhile, the search goes on for a longer-term solution for the fight with isis if it can't be won on the ground, can it be somehow won by draining support away from them, by attracting sunni tribes away from them? with that in mind, we're keeping an eye on iraqi state television. they are saying that within the next few minutes they are expecting an important announcement from prime minister nuri al maliki.
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he's been hanging on to power for the last few weeks, desperately trying to form a government even though iraq's government has been trying to hire somebody else, abadi. the united nations and saudi arabia and fellow schiites support al abadi. foreign governments desperately want to see some kind of leader who can unify this country, one who can bring sunnis, kurds, and shiites and the soft support in the court. abby. >> duncan, thank you. joining us now is john
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huntsman and also my dad. thank you so much for being here. >> you know, i turned down ari and i can turn down toure but i can't turn you down. >> i'll always be his little girl. dad, there seems to be a coming theme from the diplomats and the smartest fingers that we have on u.s. foreign policy around the lack of a policy, no vision beyond what is happening right now. take a listen to what former ambassador to iraq chris hill said this week. >> the failure to come up with a forward looking diplomatic plan keeps people out there fighting because they have no evidence that the international community is coalescing around anything. i think that's the major problem more than the idea that we haven't put enough battles out there in syria. >> dad, you talk about articulating that vision and without that you create a lack of confidence both here at home and abroad which seems to be
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what we're seeing right now. >> you just heard from ambassador chris hill who is one of the best from the state department. i watched him in action and he knows what he's talking about. i would say he's on to something. you hear people mentioning that there is a lack of clear strategy towards the middle east and oftentimes somebody is keeping that strategy in the confines of the security council or the state department but they've done a very ineffective job at communicating that strategy and the pieces have to fit together in terms of the global aspects. what are we doing with the world leaders within the united nations so within the security council to define the issue and to get progress on it. and second, a regional approach. i'm not sure anyone is clear on what we're doing in the region, particularly as it relates to the gulf cooperative states, the largely sunni states on the arab peninsula. and finally, the local aspect of it and that is within both syria and iraq, what is our strategy?
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now, kudos to the president for the humanitarian aspect in getting the minority christian groups off the mountain. i think that was very, very good, well-executed. the president deserves credit for that. now we've got a much bigger issue and i fear that it's a time sensitive issue because it's playing out and the decisions that we make or fail to make are going to be with us for quite some time. i would define this as kind of one of those legacy issues for president obama. it's going to live on to the end of his presidency and probably beyond and the choices that are made now at the global, regional and local levels are going to be particularly important. >> let's talk about the choices that we're making with how we deal with the islamic state with is a vicious jihadist group that really isn't going to stop for much. they are aggressively recruiting. they are seeking donations. it looks like a fortune 500 report and we don't imagine that they are going to carve out a
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calafate and just be there. they are going to continue to be kill those who are not as islamic as they want them to be. >> you know, we're on to something here that is quite unprecedented and you defined it in terms, toure, that were spot on. we must contain the movement and work with the region and one must make unilateral commitments if that's what it takes to stop a movement that is clearly destabilizing the region and has already spoken about their intentions towards the united states. now, here's what can be done in terms of the cards that are already on the table. the iraqi people don't want to fail here we need new
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leadership. maliki was a disaster. the army was a subsidiary to the shia side. now we have al abadi. if he can begin to unify the country, that could be a form of isolation against them. the president has been a little late but there's nothing that says he can't kind of have support of the nationalists here. he's asked for $500 million from congress that would go to the defense department to arm, equip, and make more prepared the syrian nationalists and, let's face it, if we were to make some sort of stabilization movement in the region to include turkey, to also include jordan paid for, perhaps, by the cooperative states where we up our game in syria, you've got both sides from a political standpoint and a security
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standpoint and then moving against the islamic state and it seems to me we ought to play the cards that we have on the table and see if we can not find some successes and win there is. >> he spoke about al maliki. he's speaking later this hour. we'll see what that brings. and you mentioned a lack of strategy or at least a coherent expression of a strategy from the president here. but today he did talk about tactics. he talked about a real victory of breaking the isil siege there in the mountains of iraq. take a listen, governor. >> the situation on the mountain has greatly improved and americans should be very proud of our efforts because the skill and professionalism of our military and the generosity of our people, we broke the isil siege of mt. sinjar. we helped vulnerable people bring safety and we helped save many innocent lives. >> do you a agree with that, the
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government has broke the isil siege and saved many lives? >> i'm not in a position to say. i would say kudos to the president for articulating a mission around humanitarian needs and getting something done. i think the president is at the top of his game when he talks about those kinds of missions and now we have to pivot back to a not so pleasant situation. the security aspect of this mission is not a nice one and there aren't a lot of good choices but foreign policy is really about choices and tradeoffs. it isn't -- it isn't a clean world in which we live in terms of the choices we have ahead. and he's going to have to make some pretty tough commitments about what kind of forces we have on the ground, what you call them, are they going to train, are we going to equip, but nothing is going to happen until that political piece is put in place because no army in iraq is going to want to work and be loyal to a prime minister or a government who they don't
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believe in and whose vision they don't buy into and that's why getting the political dynamic in place and solidly in place with a unified national government is so critically important to getting anything done. otherwise, you're not going to have a net effective army and this whole movement towards a regional papacy, if you will, is going to continue unchecked and no safeguards. >> it's such a treat to have you on the show, jon huntsman, governor dad, whatever you want -- >> any time for you, abby. not so sure about ari or toure. >> thanks so much. see you soon. >> pleasure. okay. keeping peace with one of america's most important allies, israel. it's the worst relations in years. today her doctor has her on a bayer aspirin regimen to help reduce the risk of another one.
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weighing a healthy 8 pounds, 5 poundses. they are doing just fine. >> wonderful pictures there. turning now to the middle east where israelis and palestinians have extended another tenuous cease-fire giving negotiators more time to hammer out a deal. tensions between israel and the u.s. are on the rise after israel secured some ammunition from the pentagon without white house approval. a practice the white house has now halted. the journal states that the u.s./israeli relations are at the lowest point since president obama took office. in the same vain, the senior israeli officials are reaching out to the u.s. to improve relations. white house defenders emphasize this is basically potentially a good thing. that while israel remain as very special ally, the u.s. can best advance its interests when it can pressure both sides in this
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conflict. mark ginsburg is a former middle east adviser. good to see you. >> good to see you, ari. >> let's start with the u.s.' role. a lot of diplomacy is moving elsewhere in the region. does that potentially help the core participants in this conflict, the palestinian side and israeli side get to their own deal? >> you know, the united states is basically the ring master in a three-ring circus. the first ring is the u.s./israeli relationship where the united states consistently says we stand by israel 100%. the second ring is this brokering business that we try to do and navigate between the palestinians and the israelis where the arabs and palestinians accuse us of spending too much time in the first ring and therefore we're not effective in the second ring. the third ring is the internal political disagreements that exist between the obama
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administration and mr. netanyahu. the personal lization of this relationship. and john kerry got wrapped up in all these three circles and when the white house says we're distancing each other, i begin questioning, who is telling the truth here? we all know that the relationship has been on the rocks between netanyahu and obama and, number three, the united states has committed to provide israel all of the assistance it has asked for and, frankly, maybe to discrediting the administration but i credit the administration, through thick and thin the president has stood by israel when it has come to its military needs. >> but the negotiations between israel and hamas are very, very difficult. they could not be further apart on the things that they want. hamas wants to expand its legitimacy. israel wants to weaken hamas. hamas wants rearmament. hamas, of course, wants israel
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disillusioned. israel wants to be normalized, left alone. how do you get through a negotiation when the two sides are so far apart. >> guess what, toure, they are getting closer. the cairo negotiations have actually got into substance in the last 24 hours. they are actually talking about how do we begin the process of beginning to relieve the blockade? point one, how do we begin to turn over a control over the border crossings from hamas to the palestinian authority so that israel can safeguard what's going into gaza? number three, how do we open up the sea port so that the gazans can go fishing and, most importantly, will the israelis do a 180-degree pivot and recognize the technical government that may include hamas representatives that it refused to do as a way of reempowering president abbas? i can tell you that right now the negotiations under egyptian
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aid has made progress. >> that's encouraging to hear. we've been seeing these cease-fires coming and going. looking at it longer term, we need a more sustainable solution. a lot of people talk about the two-state solution. is that a pipe dream or is that something that might be achievable? >> i'm a ceo of a foundation called the one voice movement. our goal is to support a two-state solution. it is constantly on the rocks but, guess what, if netanyahu and abbas realize they have a commonality, a purpose to resolve the situation in gaza and mr. kerry decides that there may be an investment of time to get these parties -- because you threw all of the rubble around now and now there's new circumstances. look, everyone would say to you right now, don't bet the mortgage on a two-state solution. when you see where the publics are, they want security. the only way to get them the security they want on both sides
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is peace. mr. netanyahu consistently argued that i'm the prime minister of security and, guess what, his poll numbers are dropping inside israel because people are saying, what did this all bring to us at this point in time? >> right. where did we go from here and get something out of this? ambassador ginsburg, great to have your expertise at the table. >> great to be here. up next, the recovery at home and the jobs that are gone for good. and then when i joined the show, toure said live every week like it's shark week. meet the guy that swims with them and not only lives to tell the tale but brings back the tape you're going to want to see. next.
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but how are americans feeling? corporate profits are booming and the stock market is near record highs again but the job market remains sluggish leading many to feel that we are still in a recession. even those who have jobs are finding that wages are just stuck. our next guest wrote about this disconnect between wall street and main street. here to talk to us is rick newman, columnist with yahoo! finance. thanks for joining us. there's a lot of issues with the labor market. we've got part-time workers on the rise, wage issues. what do you think is driving the biggest disconnect that americans are not feeling the share of prosperity? >> there's one thing that is missing from this so-called recovery. it's income. we now have more jobs than we had before the recession. stock markets are doing great. what is missing is pay. incomes -- median household income is still below where it used to be after you account for
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inflation. typical families have less money than they are used to and a lot of people who lost jobs, for instance, might have a new job but it pays a lot less than the job they used to have. that's a big problem everywhere. we lost a lot of jobs that paid pretty well, we got back a lot of jobs that don't pay so well. there's a big mismatch and this equates to living standards. >> and that differential is about $15,000? >> that's right. that's the difference between the jobs that we lost during the recession on average and the jobs we got back afterwards that pay about $15,000 lesson average. >> what industries are we seeing the most growth? >> we lost the most in manufacturing and construction. those are blue collar jobs that used to pay pretty well. some of them have come back but it's doubtful we'll get back to where we used to be on those. what we've gotten back instead, retail jobs, hotel jobs, health care jobs. >> restaurants? >> restaurants. and they just don't pay as well.
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that's the problem. if you don't have a college degree, you don't have specialized training, you're struggling right now. >> a lot of folks think that the answer is to raise the minimum wage, maybe to 10, 12, $15 an hour. what do you think about that? >> minimum wage job by definition is a low-paying job. that might help put more money in their pocket but it's not going to create the kind of jobs we need here. what might do that is infrastructure spending. this is actually a pretty centrist idea. businesses support it because they need customers to get to where they are selling stuff. and those jobs will be pretty good jobs. of course, we don't have anything like that happening in washington. a lot of talk about this and that and nothing is happening. so, you know, people are on their own. businesses are on their own. >> a lot of folks talk about consumers are actually job creators and when we empower consumers, then we'll have more job creation. so if we work that minimum wage
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piece and maybe even another 5 million folks in the shadows were to come out, be better consumers and taxpayers, that could be a jolt to the economy. >> this is kind of fuzzy math right now. they don't have the money to spend so businesses aren't hiring more. who's going to go first here? that's the sort of cycle we're stuck in. businesses are not going to hire more people until their revenue goes up. revenue is not going to go up until they spend more. we're having a stare-down. >> 1% is out earning everybody by a large part so shouldn't they, be definition, go first since they are doing the best? >> they are spending a lot. sales of mercedes are doing great, sales of luxury foods. tiffany is doing great. the luxury category doesn't have a problem right now. that's not enough. it's just not enough. >> when you say fuzzy math, what is it, fuzzy wool?
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close-up. the week-long tribute has brought us up close and personal to these ancient underwater predators and their razor sharp teeth. we've learned a lot about shark's eating habits and the the dangers that shark face, manically from humans. to get the amazing shots that we enjoy from the comfort of our old living room, joining us is joe ramero. i was just telling you, joe, i recently had an encounter with a whale shark. it was the most exhilarating experience. these are the friendly sharks. why on earth do you jump in the water with the sharks that could literally eat you in two seconds? >> these animals have no opinion about us. i try to tell people all the time, there's never any emotion about it. anything that they establish
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with us is just another kreech in the ocean and they are trying to figure out what we are and sometimes they see this thing split in the middle and it's acting weird and not like the behavior of any animal in the ocean unless it's dying so they sometimes check us out. >> okay. i want to hear about an animal checking you out, i want to hear a story about a close call where you were in the water with the sharks. >> that shot right here off the coast of new england, which is very close to here, that shark we -- i remember that one pretty vividly. >> i could imagine. >> she bit the lens like 18 times to see what i was. but they are a not a bumpy shark. usually sharks have to identify things in their mouth with their teeth because that's the only hands they have. maco sharks are -- >> they are really big babies.
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>> everything in their mouth. >> exactly. that's a very good. >> thank you, joe. >> do you have a question, ari? >> no. >> so one of the things that you've talked about is that sharks are misunderstood and that they are really actual three important to the ecosystem of the ocean. tell us about that and how you think shark week is helping that. >> the celebration of sharks every summer for the last 27 years where they are one of the most revered creatures on the planet, probably the most popular animal in the world and shark week brings a lot of awareness to the animal and things that we don't know about them. for an average about nine, ten people die every year from a shark attack. but more people are hurt by other people, more people are hurt by toasters, you have more
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of a chance of dying by slipping on a banana peal. in comparison, if you did the numbers, 100 million, that's million, that's 300 sharks a second and i don't know how anything can last, and how much we revere these animals i would think they deserve respect. >> i think we should give sharks more respect. it does seem like recently there have been more shark attacks or sightings of sharks. is that the reality or are we just covering it a lot more? >> it's cameras. there's a cam r on everything. you're able to kronnicel everything. we used to go through things and incidents with people and sharks and you have to think about areas that are so remote that there is no contact with people throughout years so records haven't been kept between sharks and people until just recently where it started to have anything to do with a shark. a shark goes to investigate something and all of a sudden it's an arc tack and really,
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it's us sharing their space with them and you have to understand that if you're going to put your body into some place that it is a wild frontier and stick your head out of it and not look into it, then you will run into things that, you know, live there and there's no such thing as a shark-infested ocean. >> it's thrilling to watch these awesome beasts do their killing thing. >> they're a predator. it's amazing to watch a predator be a predator and shark week does a good job of celebrating that and all week it's been showing that and showing sharks for being sharks, and i really like the whole -- it's christmas for shark people, really. >> you know, i don't really want to share space with a shark, but you amaze me. you've loved sharks since you were 5 years old and doing exactly what you love. kudos to you, joe. >> thank you for being here. really good stuff and really good, interesting video. >> up next, no boots on the the ground until there are boots on the ground. my thoughts on iraq. that's next. (son) oh no...
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right now iraqi prime minister nuri al maliki is stepping down. the announcement came moments ago on state television. we are expecting to hear directly from him at any time now. maliki's resignationens the political stalemate in baghdad which many believe has helped fuel the rise of the militant group isis and that, of course, has put us back into combat mode there. in the past week the u.s. has successfully launched more than a dozen air strikes against isis, a terrorist group best described as the worst of the worst and now the u.s. has sent in more than 100 military advisers to help out the yazidis caught between the mountain and
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the killers below upon. the mission has improved, but the threat remains far from over. president obama has made two very big prom ies to the american people. one, that we will continue to help save the thousands of refugees still searchinging for safety and two, that no american boots will return to the ground in iraq. here's the thing, though, like promising to close down guantanamo and promising to act if syria crosses the red line. keeping both of the promises could prauf difficult, indeed, her's why, if the president ends up sending american operators or advisers to help with an evacuation when we're already seeing happen and that would ensure breaking his promise and blowback from potential casua y casualties and if he decides to step up support for the iraqi and kurdish troops for the effort there's no telling whether they could even battle isis. a lot of what ifs here because the reality is no one knows what's going to happen next.
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even the president himself has acknowledge thatted that he doesn't have an answer beyond this current mig. isis has the capabilities, money and resources to keep this fight going much longer than most of us realize. >> it is a slippery slope. once you start the cries to do more will increase and, you know, i hate to say this, but abu bakr al baghdadi gets a vote in this as the u.s. moves toward aing his forces it's likely that he'll attack u.s. targets where he can find them and what kind of situation that will produce obviously, none of us know. >> all of this at a time when the president is trying to preserve his foreign policy view of limited engagement. we continue to be a war-weary nation and we want to hear the the president say no more troops on the ground and we're ending the wars in the middle east. the last thing we want to hear is that we might have another war on our hands in the very same place weigh just got ourselves out of.
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at what point of saying simply what we want to hear is to make the best policy decisions. the way i see it the president has tw options. one, preserving full optionality which will open the door yes, to political blowback, but it would leave him choice for whatever the situation ends up requiring or two, make his base and most of the americans happy by declaring this we'll never use ground troops. the president chose the second option ask by setting this expectation well before any of us know what the outcome will be. he risks creating a political lookity that might influence a decision down the line. this is not a political campaign where you can take absolute positions on things. the world doesn't play politics and doesn't deal in absolutes. i think what the american want and what they deserve is honestly, even if it's not what we want to hear right now because at the end of the day or night actions speak louder than words. we've heard the words, but we still don't know all of the actions. that does it for "the cycle" will carry live remarks from jay
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nixon on the situation in ferguson. that coverage starts right now. a flash point in ferguson becomes a national firestorm. it's thursday, august 14th and this is "now". >> something is not right in ferguson. ♪ ♪ >> a lot of people here are wondering whether this is 2014 or 1964. stunning dwepts in ferguson, missouri. >> tanks rolling down the street like you would see in baghdad. >> this is not a ferguson problem. this is a national problem. >> officials are trying to figure out how to calm a very volatile situation. >> the whole picture is being painted sideways. what we saw is a break dunn of l law and order by police. >> there are firebombs being thrown at the police. >> the missouri national guard to protect people as they protest. >> this is one of the worst police shootings --
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>> his family will never hold michael in their arms again. >> he was executed. >> what in the world is happening here? >> here in the united states of america police should not be bullying or arresting journalists. >> it is not the congo, it is not china. it is not russia. we can do better. we are awaiting a press conference from missouri governor jay nixon due to begin at any moment amid civil unrest and escalating tensions unleashed by the police shooting of unarmed teenager michael brown in ferguson, missouri. after a fifth night of confrontations in which police fired tear gas and rubber bullets to disperse protesters, frustrations in ferguson and across the country continue to rise. 16 people were arrested including a st. louis alderman and two journalists who were covering the protests. this afternoon president obama called for calm on all sides.