good morning, i'm jose diaz bala balart. breaking news in ferguson, missouri. the police department released the name of the police officer who fatally shot unarmed teen michael brown. >> the officer that was involved in the shooting of michael brown was darren wilson. he's been a police officer for six years. has had no disciplinary action taken against him. he was treated for injuries, which occurred on saturday. >> chief jackson discussed a robbery investigation from the same night as the michael brown shooting. though the correlation is not yet completely clear. the news this morning comes after a relatively peaceful night in ferguson following four nights of clashing between protesters and police after the state highway patrol under the leadership of captain ron janson took command. let me bring in usa national today reporter. good morning. we learned the name of the

police officer who fatally shot michael brown. as i understand you have a copy of the pact police distributed. what can you tell us about that? >> police distributed a packet of information that the news organization asked for. in here we have a copy of a robbery incident report that is saying that someone who was 6'44" and a black male had stolen cigars from a convenience store. the call went out around 11: 50 p.m. they wepursuing this. there was no direct correlation made to michael brown. the person was wearing a white t-shirt and khaki shorts. police are saying it seems as though police were pursuing the person, the suspect, in a robbery when they came upon michael brown and the fatal shooting occurred. >> i'm confused. if there's no correlation, why mention it? >> well, they didn't make a direct correlation. there's obviously a correlation in the fact it happened and soon after michael brown was -- they found michael brown and shot

him. i think there is while not being able to make a direct correlation. they never said michael brown is a person who robbed the convenience store. it's pretty clear the officers are saying that he was part of -- he was someone who may or may not have fit the discrepancies, i guess is the best way i can put it. he's 6'4" and 292 pounds. i'm not sure how much michael brown weighed or how big he was. we know he was described as a again gentle giant. i think that's what officers are trying to say. >> tell me about what we know about the officer who was named in the last couple of minutes. >> we only know right now that he was a six-year veteran of the police force and he no disciplinary action. we didn't have an age for him as chief jackson was naming the officer, reporters were saying how would was he? they were screaming out other questions. and chief jackson did not answer the questions. he got into his car.

his officers started handing out the packets. we only know he was a six-year veteran of the police force and also that he had no disciplinary actions before he shot michael brown. >> i want to take you to a major picture. there was a major turn in the tone of the protests last night in ferguson. you sent out a tweet saying, quote, i haven't seen a police officer in hours. crowd isn't being disperse d ony people leaving are the tired ones. here is captain ron johnson. >> i look around and this is my community. these are restaurants i eat at that are boarded up. we're out here protecting citizens, the businesses, but also, protecting rights to the people that are marching. >> talk to me a little bit about the scene there last night and how different it was compared to the four previous nights. >> before this -- before last night there was tear gas, there were bottles being thrown, apparently. there were confrontations with the police. a lot of people are talking about the police. people were angry at the police.

yesterday i took a picture of the chief of the st. louis county police taking selfies. the mood was completely different. people were kind of -- i wouldn't say a block party. they were on message. they were saying "don't shoot hands up." it was a jovial scene. not really happy but more free. people were out walking around. i didn't see police officers around at all for at least three hours. people were saying this is us. we want to have our freedom. it was completely calm. there was no violence i saw. it was just a completely different scene. there were no barricades. there were no police officers. even standing around surveying people. it was really people out in the street protesting and having not a good time but a time to express themselves. >> and i want to take you back. we can't lose sight of the investigation into what happened the day michael was shot. what do we know about the investigation? why was he killed? how was he confronted?

what happened? >> that is actually something we don't really know anything about yet. from my understanding, we were asking -- we meaning reportings were asking chief jackson the questions. he was not answering the questions. he said he wasn't answering any questions today. so we don't know much attendant. we know that from my understanding it must have happened sometime after 11: 51 a.m. that's when the convenience store was robbed and that's what they said kind of proceeded the event. we only really know that the officers, the convenience store was robbed. that the officers were pursuing someone. probably within an hour they encountered michael brown and he was fatally shot. we don't know how he was shot. the police are saying that there was a confrontation. he was grabbing for an officer's gun. we know that witnesses say he had the hands up and somewhat surrendering. there's two starkly stories here. we don't really have a clarification on what really happened. >> and we're coming up on a week since it happened. we really do need to see some

transparency on what, at least, is going on with the investigation. thank you so much for being with us this morning. missouri governor, jay nixon, who spent the day in ferguson this morning releasing the name of the officer is a step toward transparency. >> we need to get just nice this case. it needs to move forward in a transparent way. they need to move forward to get justice. there's a lot of guide posts and markers between now and the finish line of what has occurred the start the last weekend in ferguson. we're going to be working hard to keep people together. joining me now is st. louis county naacp member who serves on the organization's national boards of directions. thank you for being with us. how important is it to finally have the name of this officer released? we're coming up on one week since it occurred. it's the first small step we get

on the investigation information. >> it's a small step but it's definitely a step in the direction of justice. one thing that, you know, they owed the family this information. they owed the people of this community this information. to know who this man is that is on the ground so the naacp can do our due diligence and begin speaking with the police department on who this officer was. i know, they say his record was fairly clean. we would like to speak with some of the people on the ground to find out what their reaction is. and had they had any run ins with the officer. what was he known for in the community. what was his particular area of the city of ferguson he commonly patrolled? one thing that has been mentioned as they said that they were going after mr. michael brown because they believed was fitting the zricdescription of young man that maybe stolen items from a local convenient mart. we want to make sure mr. brown

was not being profiled. that makes us nervous. >> yeah, and john, we want to make sure. that's why i asked the top of the show on why mention this incident of the convenience store. what is the correlation. we need to know that answer as well. now i want to kind of bring in to another aspect of this. had is captain ron johnson and the state highway patrol are overseeing the situation in ferguson. it was, boy, what a difference up. a peaceful night of protests last night compared to the violent clashes we saw the nights before. what changed, do you think? >> you know, i believe that people -- the governor and folks in charge here begin to have some common sense. you can't treat people like they're prisoners of war. you center to treat them fairly

and allow them to exercise their constitutional rights to make their voices heard here on the ground. you've had a lot of people that are upset here. and so to have military trucks out here, to have assault rifles, you know, that's completely inappropriate and completely out of line and completely out of order. i believe -- i commend mr. johnson for his leadership, for his compassion, and for him stepping up to the plate. for allowing hem to have enough courage to put their father and husband on the frontline to help bring justice to the community. >> it does it seem like officials and especially state officials kind of took too long to see it was seething and these were real people involved in real emotions expressing real disgust when w wh-- with what t see? >> i think it took far too long. i think they began to look at

the future political careers and began to figure out if we don't do something about it. it's dead end in for me. politically i think that's what many have began to believe and take look at. and you see on the ground now when they saw national media. people like your network that are really painting the picture and painting details. they're beginning to realize it's a very, very serious situation. it brings into real questions where we need to go from here. >> president obama weighed in yesterday. here is part of what he said. it's important to remember how it started. we lost a young man, michael brown, in heartbreaking and tragic sinces. he was 18 years old. his family will never hold michael in their arms again. >> where do we go from here? what is the next step and what do we expect for the next days and weeks?

i think you'll have people that are upset but people that will be relieved to some extent to know that law enforcement feels the pressure from the naacp, the pressure from national leaders and the media they can't hold the details in. it's information that these people on the ground are entitled to. what we have to do is hold local law enforcement, the governor, leadership here, to the fire to keep these people with the details coming. and to develop some type of plan from what i understand here by being on the ground the ferguson police department was on and off. whether it was going to be announced this morning or what time. it was unacceptable. we have to have a clear plan on the ground how the information is going to be communicated. because people can't afford to play the ring around the rosie here. >> john gaskin. thank you. we'll have more on ferguson later. come up we'll turn overseas there's a change at the top as iraq's divisive leader finally

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this morning israeli tanking standing by as an extended truce continues to hold. the five day cease-fire is raising hopes that the longer term solution could be in the works as israeli and palestinian officials continue to talk in cairo. meanwhile more tension between president obama and israeli prime minister benjamin net ja hoo. according to reports they talked on the phone wednesday in what was described as a combative conversation. the president reaffirming support for the mediation efforts and stressed the importance of achieving a lasting outcome. the world health organization warning the deadly ebola outbreak may be far worse than they thought. it killed more than a thousand people so far. world health officials say they see evidence the number of reported cases and deaths, quote, vastly underestimates the magnitude of the outbreak. a short time ago doctors without borders said it will take six months to bring it under

control. a first visit to south korea in a quarter century. urging koreans to pray and work for reunification. a mass attended by 50,000 people. the pope told the koreans they should aim to reunite as one family. korean war from 1950 to 1953 ended in armed truce leaving north korea and south korea in a state of war. for the big development out of iraq new prime minister is urging iraqis to unit in the face of the growing threat by islamic terrorists. today is his first full day on the job after the em battled nuri al maliki finally bowed to international pressure to resign after two terms. yesterday president obama spoke of his support for the new prime minister but signal nod change in the limited military mission in iraq. let's bring in former white house middle east policy adviser and ambassador mark begginsburgd

bobby ghosh. ambassador, what do we know about the new prime minister? what is the challenge ahead for him? >> jose, good morning. it waser deputy speaker of the iraqi parliament. it's not been a man who rocked a lot of waves, so to speak. it's been a function -- more or less what i call the elder political statesman. he's a consensus figure. after all, how could you possibly come up with anyone who wasn't a consensus figure among these factions. whether or not, hour, i had has the talent, the leadership capability to achieve what is certainly reunification of the country remains to be seen. >> and bobby, the president's critics say that the formation of a more inclusive government should pave the way for the obama administration and provide full support. what is the challenge for the president in terms of dealing

with a new prime minister and in terms of our military policy? >> it's the same challenge for iraqis. met him several times in iraq when he was a sort of low level functi function. the fact he's not maliki is a good thing. it's words remembering he has almost an identical background as maliki. he's a religious shia that comes from a par -- his track record is not deep enough for us to know. this is something the white house will be paying close attention to. is he going to the figure who yooi unites. if there is division in baghdad, it's not going to be enough unless there's united consensus government in baghdad. >> and ambassador, the president has a major bridge to gap.

not just the one that bobby was talking about but his own intelligence warning the grave threat by isis. our current strategy won't do anything to neutralize the threat in the long-term. how does he navigate this? >> the president has to make a decision whether or not his strategy of no boots on the ground and no coalition is going to do what is essentially the biggest problem here. remember, jose, on the day we were all captivated by the humanitarian crisis of the yezi yezidi, the president was on the phone with the kij of jordan who called to appeal for help against isis. the other thing we have to understand is the again side that captured the attention of the american people is going on against shiites, christians in northern iraq that are right now under the suffering arm or brut of isis. i think it comes down to a fundamental question. does the president have the foreign policy management capability of forming a coalition of countries in the region who have to take on isis.

where are the arab states? this caliphate has to be destroyed. isis has to be rolled back. it can't be dependent ultimately on the political condition of what results itself in baghdad. >> ambassador, i'm so glad you mentioned that. where are the arab states that are being threatened? we have lebanon being threatened, we have jordan being threatened. where is the rest of the arab world saying we need to unite and support a battle against isis. e.u. foreign ministers are meeting to coordinate the strategy in providing arms to the kurds. where do our european allies fit? >> as they have been for several years now. they're waiting for us to lead. the europeans are long on words and short on action in that part of the world. they wouldn't arm the kurds until the united states went first. they will not get involved in anything more substantiative than that until the united states goes first.

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>> well, we know he's a six-year veteran of the force. police say he had no disciplinary actions taken against him at the time. we don't know much more. we know there was robbery that happened at the convenience store somewhere near here, and the officer came into the area when he heard radio transmission describing a suspect. we don't know what the description was exact i had. michael brown was enkourntsed by the officer a half mile from where the robbery had taken place. what that suggests is that when the officer stopped michael. and listen to some of the initial reaction here to some people that is going to sound like racial profiling. that's what some of the immediate reaction from some people was when they heard the police describe the sequence of events. >> these are people who are listening what was going on. they're impoem true demonstrations that happen all the time. we're trying to gauge and measure what the wide reaction is to this police are trying to

do this in the name of honest, openness, and transparency. >> ron, what do we know about the next steps as far as the investigation and what we'll get more information on the investigation. other than this police name, policeman's name we know very little about what is happening as far as the investigation. >> indeed. we know couple of things. we know the authorities have spoken with the young man who was michael brown at the time of this incident. we know that the police in ferguson and the county police have been reaching out trying to have conversation with michael brown's family to try as a way of reconciling things. but you're right. we don't know a lot about the forensics of the case. we don't know a lot about other witnesses who have been identified. but we know from statements bit governor and others here, that this is getting a lot of attention from a lot of people at the highest levels of

government in this state. if not this country. the justice department is also very involved. eric holder made a statement yesterday saying there was going to be thorough civil rights investigation of the matter. you heard the president express his concern about things yesterday. so, again, there have been some report that they may be nearing the end of the investigations. we don't know that to be true. the prosecution are urging them saying we want to do it right but the community wants answers now. >> thank you for the live report. i want to bring congressman james clyburn. he's been looking very closely at this and i'm sure that he may have some historical speperspece on this. what is your overall reaction. we're seeing now there's drip, drip, drip of information coming

out this morning. we find out the name of the police officer this morning. what is your reaction of what has been happening in ferguson over the course now, almost a week? >> i've been hurt by all of this. a lot of us have been saying for some time now there's a certain amount of retrenchment taking place in the country. those of us who are products of the 1960 and '50s for that matter, really, really were hopeful we put things like this behind us forecast. but we noticed the recent supreme court decisions recent efforts at the state and local levels to turn the clock back on voter participation and other kinds of suppressive legislation designed to suppress a group of people. people tend to reaction to the

reactions. i was not a good physics guy but i understand the principles. people are reacting to the show of force, the disrespect that seems to be prevalent there in the community. it didn't start with this. this seems to have been going on for some time. people of color running and being defeated by racialized voting. some of this must be laid at the doorsteps. those interested in this. i've been talking with the chair of the congressional black caucus, we're begin to look into what the congressional black caucus c

cauc caucus can do at the local level. going in there and probably having some discussions with local communities. helping them understand the relationship between the extreme they get from elected officials and their participation in the electorial process. that participation seems to be very low in that area. the people there for some strange reason they're not participating. we have to do something about that. we're not going to solve these problems if we stay out of the arena. you couldn't have said it any more eloquently. people in a democracy need to participate in order for their voices to have more weight. the question is, i would like your thoughts on this. i see as though it takes someone to die before that local community that has a suffering

they're dealing with. it takes someone to die in order to have the national discourse. >> that's what it seems. i was thinking this morning about all the rhetoric about being tough on crime. there's one thing to be tough on crime. i'm tough on crime. but there's something else to be death on blacks. that is what seems to be happening. when i think about the choke hold up in new york. a guy crying out for 10 or 11 times that i can't breathe and three or other people piled on top of him. the police officer could not find the wisdom to stop choking the guy until he could not breathe anymore. to me, that's deliberate. and we have to look at this. a lot of bad people carrying badges. most of them are good people. and i support police officers, but we've got to find a way to

weed these people out. i'm glad that the name has now come forward, because we need to know whether or not this guy was acting the way he acted before or whether or not this is some kind of a pattern. or just something that happened. all of these things we've got to take into account we cannot let ferguson be just another statistic. we have to get involved. hopefully it will jump start a movement. that will have people all over this country taking a hard look at their communities, the treatment they're getting from elected officials and whether or not that is going to start them participate at the level as we go forward. >> congressman clyburn, thank you so much for your time this morning. i want to stay on the issue of justice. i want to you to sense sway

will. there are new twists and delays in lopez. lopez has been behind bars for nearly six months accused by the venezuelan government for inciting violence and anti-government protests in february. the latest delay in the trial came this week when the judge once again rejected evidence and several witnesses in the defense wanted to present. today lopez and his lawyers are waiting to hear if the decision is even legal. lopez supporters say all of this is just more proof that you can't gate fair trial in venezuela. the next scheduled date of court is 28th of august. joining me now is the first cousin of lopez. thank you for being with us. >> thank you for having me, jose. as you know, human rights activists around the world have been closely watching the case. lopez himself is calling, quote, an execution wall. what is your reaction to the court once again banning the defense evidence for the second time now.

not allowing the press in there. not allowing reports out of there. what is your reaction to this? >> well, this case from the very beginning, they started off by accusing him of murder and accusing of him of terrorism. then they ratcheted back the accusations after they looked at the evidence and realized there is no evidence of that. if anything, there's evidence of lopez going on -- taking microphone and calling for nonviolent conflict. calling for peaceful protest. we saw the images in missouri about people marching. that's lopez called for. protest marches against the government. people should have a right to protest. in venezuela it lands you in jail and kangaroo court where there is no independence and the court follows the dictates of the president. that's going on in the case of lopez. >> now the government insisted

that lopez and other 0 suggestion leaders are waging a war. they want to kill the president and topple a democratically elected government. >> there's no evidence that people are plotting to kill him. they're continually bringing out the fake plots. under chavez they accused people of plotting to kill the president it's smoke screen. imagine, again, in a country like the united states people said that anyone and everyone who is protesting in ferguson, missoouri for a redress of their grievances is plotting to destroy the governorship or lotting to go against certain political leaders. it's a smoke screen to cover up the fact that venezuela dissented into a dictatorship and being run by people despite sitting on masses and mass of oil wealth have lead the country into poverty. >> where is the money? venezuela has the largest oil reserves in the globe yet

there's no toilet paper in the government said what they inherited was a zaster from the rich people that kept the money and didn't give it to the poor. >> that's a very good red herring. they've had 15 years of government. when they came into government, the price of oil was $7 a barrel. while they've been in government the price of oil has gone from $100 to $150 a barrel. the idea they have not had enormous amounts of income is absolutely absurd. where that money is is simple. a lot of is in switzerland. a lot is in american bank accounts being held by cronies of the government. a lot has been handed out and dolled out as bribes to member countries. chavez gave away, for instance, $100 billion in foreign aid. this wasn't foreign aid. i'm going give you some so you vote for me. you some so whenever some comes

up you vote in our favor. they spent a lot of money buying favor abroad. the poor of venezuela suffered the most who were promised an revolution and the increase in livelihood and standard of living. and who, in fact, received a situation where you can't buy toilet paper. you can't get sugar. you can't get flour. you have to be in line for hours to get the most basic needs. this is supposed to be a government of the people. >> thank you so much for being with us this morning from los angeles. coming up with ferguson under a spotlight, we're going to talk about the militarization of police departments across the country. amid this morning's new developments in the shooting death of michael brown.

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the officer involved in the shooting death of michael brown along with images of a robbery discussed this morning at the ferguson police chief's press conference the night of the shooting. we're all about solutions here on the broadcast. so when a local police force looks more like a military unit to many people. that's a situation ripe forest fire discussion. since 1997 the federal government has been supplying local governments with excess military gear. close a half billion last year alone. it includes since 2006 everything from over 180 magazines to over 430 mine resistant ambush protected people. is all the material necessary? joining me now to discuss is msnbc contributor victoria francesca desew to. how does it relate to what it

boung in ferguson? >> it likens to the fact that when you all is a hammer everything else looks like a nail. and because we've seen the beefing up of local police forces with the heard ware since the late 1990s, we see this shift in mentality. but let me take it a step back, jose. really, the shift in mentality started in the late '60s, '70s with nixon's war on drugs. just that word war on drugs. we're talking about a shift starting with nixon going on to reagan, and then we see because of afghanistan and iraq all of this surplus hardware feed into the mentality we need to think of it as a war zone. stuff we see happening abroad. it's the change in mentality together with the hardware. >> victoria, it's the war on drugs. it's not just a reagan and nixon creation. every single administration has more or less been on the same

pain on this. >> yes. >> i want to ask you this. the fact is that when the police have found more and more throughout cities in this country that sometimes they deal with criminals that are better armed than them, is it not incumbent upon police departments to better prepared to deal with whatever may be out there. it's a different question than in ferguson. in ferguson it was never an issue. in general terms, isn't it something that needs to be considered? >> it is, jose. and the devil is in the details. it's what is the right amount? because obviously you want your police force to be able to protect your community as best possible. but at the same time you don't want to trigger a backlash from the community. really what we have seen is the key to good police work is community policing. it's engajting the folks who live there in helping them patrol your community. if the community doesn't trust

the police force because they're armed to the teeth and every time there's an incident, they bring out the tanls and the military hardware. then you have this vicious cycle of both the community and the police not negotiating, not discussing with each other. we saw it in ferguson when there was a stand off with the police. the community got very angry and we saw the cycle. but once we saw the police force tamped it down. the community also became more engaged. so it's about the vicious versus the virtuous cycle. >> and objects matter. if you're going on the street and you're protesting and upset and vociferous, that does notelessly equate with police having to come out with assault weapons. but i want to -- and you're talking about how things changed. how things have changed in just 24 hours on this story. in ferguson, i mean, we were showing pictures monday, tuesday, wednesday, that could have been i don't know some encounter in some middle east country or syria or something. now we're showing totally

different pictures of how different it was. look at wednesday night versus thursday night. 24-hours and it looks like two different universes away. >> objects matter. and you know saying in spanish. when people die a lot they understand each other. the first couple of days we had a standoff. we had people glaring each other in the eye but not necessarily talking or dialoguing. the shift came last night when we started seeing community members and the police force talking to each other. so representative clyburn earlier said maybe something good will come of this. i also believe the silver lining to this is that the community will become more engaged. also, top down the police forces will say, you know, we have to open ourselves up more to listening not just being that law enforcement presence. but engaging the community. >> you're absolutely right.

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with, i guess, one of the employees. here we -- they redacted the name of the store, but it's not too difficult to figure out. we headed up there and asked if anyone was willing to speak and, you know, the store is opened and operating but they're not going to speak. as we merge i think some people were figuring out where it is. we'll see if that results in any protest moving. roogt now everything seems to be focussed here around, you know, the qt where a lot of protests have been centered around throughout the week. >> yeah. let's focus on the picture what appear to be from a security camera inside a store. i don't know if it's a convenience store. it looks like it could be. it doesn't seem like a c confrontati confrontation. police talked about the correlation between what happened at the store and what lead to the confrontation with brown later. and this is part of that supposed correlation they're

mentioning. it doesn't seem -- i mean, what do we know about these pictures? >> what beknow is that the officer -- two officers or an officer and witness say they saw the images in this photo of mike brown, if it is mike brown, base issed on what the suspect was wearing and later saw his body after the shooting and said they were a match. this report that we've been handed out doesn't really cover the actual shoot incident. it's all from the ferguson police department and fergus-- s focussed on what lead up to this ultimate confrontation. you know, from what appears in the photograph there's some sort of, you know, physical grab it looks like, if this is indeed

mike brown. but in this photograph, but there's no allegation of him being armed in any way. that's, i think, an important thing to keep in mind given that he was still unarmed at the time of this shooting. >> yeah, but, i mean, this is now at least a correlation as to why the beginning of the show we were saying why would they mention one thing and another thing. but, listen, ryan, thank you so much for being with us. ry ryan rye lie. thank you very much. we'll be back with more.

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it's been a busy friday morning with the officer who shot michael brown revealed and now questions about these pictures released by police this morning. and still unclear exactly how they die into the investigation surrounding brown's death, but police implying there is a correlation between this and what happened later. that wrapping up this hour on

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