shortly before brown's run-in with police outside, video surveillance appears to show him and a friend in a confrontation with a convenience store employee. all this after a peaceful march last night. once the police had been ordered to demilitarize by the new top cop in town, head of the missouri highway patrol and ferguson native ron johnson. >> we had no police line here. as you can see, none of the officers have gas masks around their waists. so -- and i don't have one on either. and so we're going -- we're in this together. >> good day, everyone. i'm andrea mitchel in washington. we are waiting for missouri governor jay nixon to give a press conference at any time. this comes only hours after the police chief identified darren wilson, a six-year veteran of

the force as the police officer involved in the shooting of unarmed teen michael brown on saturday. joining me from ferguson is msnbc.com national reporter trymaine lee. you were at that briefing from the police chief earlier today. a lot of questions were attempted to be asked but not answered. >> i think what you saw last night, where there was kind of a calm after a hectic night, people are now starting to see again. they have no season answers and the police came through, gave the name but refused to take any questions. one man said we are ferguson residents and demand these answers to the many questions we have. while it's still early, the crowds are gathering. people are really concerned they are being whitewashed that the police department may be putting up a smoke screen in between them and the truth. >> trymaine, what we have now is this full police report that they passed out of this incident that took place. and we have the surveillance photos from a video that we

think is soon going to be released. what can we surmise from these photos? it does show michael brown and the person we believe is an employee of the convenience store from the police report, what do we know from this? >> we don't know a lot. and err on the side of caution and context. i can't weigh on what is actually happening there because we haven't seen the entire video. but a man who the police alleges is michael brown seems to be in a confrontation with someone who may or may not be a store employee. now i spoke with a lawyer for one of the witness who was just within feet of the shooting and with michael brown at a store earlier in the day. he said that michael brown did, indeed, take some cigarellos, mini cigarettes but it wasn't a strong-armed robbery. he just stole the cigarillos. it's hard to surmise what we're seeing in the video because we haven't seen the entire thing. >> we're seeing a little bit of the video now on the split

screen. you probably can't see that. and again, very hard to say. we're going to wait to see what witnesses, attorneys, police and others in official capacity say about all of this. we're waiting to see exactly what -- i'm seeing it for the first time as well. a man who appears to be the man described as michael brown walks out the convenience store employee presumably follows him out briefly. this does not speak, though, trymaine, to what happened once he was outside. this does not tell us anything about what happened between him and the police officers. >> and it is like so much in this case. there are few things we know for a fact that this officer, darren wilson, a six-year veteran of the force shot and killed michael brown in some sort of confrontation. other than that, we just don't know bch it. for days that kind of added to this turmoil. people wanted answers. the people had questions that they needed responding to. from their point of view, the young man was shot and killed by

a police officer and he laid dead in the street for hours. and so still we don't know a lot. as this investigation continues to unfold and bits and pieces of information are coming out, we're starting to see the vaguest, grainy picture of what may have happened just hours before this young man was killed. >> from that security video, trymaine, that i'm watching, it apparently took about one minute for this entire confrontation to take place. then there was a call to the police. the police say they were responding to reports of a strong-armed robbery. doesn't appear to be terribly violent but there's an obvious size disparity between the man in the convenience store and michael brown. but why don't know what happened outside. >> also what's important and some folks out here have raised this question is when exactly was that call made, and when was the young man, michael brown, shot? are the two connected? was the officer who may have gotten word ever a description of this strong-armrobbery, was

he responding to it? was he on his way? in the neighborhood? there still seems to be a gap in time. we should be taking a closer look at that. >> you were out last night, and this is after, of course, the governor had ordered the state highway police to be in charge. we saw that the police officer who was in charge actually came from ferguson and again was an african-american. there was a complete demilitarization. tell us the difference that one day, one night made in the way officer johnson approached it and the way the local police in ferguson had approached it the day before? >> the clear difference is there's not a line drawn across the street with paramilitary vehicles and snipers and officers in fatigues holding rifles and demanding that protesters get back. last night, and i don't want to overstate it that there's a sense of jubilance but almost a sense of jubilance. there was still this spirit of protests and people were still chanting.

the same chant they've been chanting all week. the mood was decidedly different. you could feel the difference. the night before, there was teargas and percussion grenades. that clearly was not the case last night. again, peaceful for the most part. the streets were lined with people. there was honking horns for hours throughout the night. a complete difference. and people felt, one person described it almost as a family reunion because they were coming out as a community to protest what they saw and see as an unjust killing of one of their own. >> one of the things that we are all talking about is how did local police forces become so militarized, apparently goes back to an act of congress in 1996 when police forces, even in a small town. there are 21,000 people in the town of ferguson. we're beginning to see pictures of governor nixon beginning to have that news conference. we'll be going to that live in a moment, trymaine, as soon as it

stabilizes. but this whole backdrop of local police having more armed vehicles than some of our troops in baghdad did when they were first, you know, taking iraq. >> right. when you talk to a number of people in the community, we've heard this over and over again, there's this long history of distrust. they feel they've been treated unfairly time and again. they'll say go to the courthouse on any given day and the line is snaking around the building full of black people. most with silly charges, traffic violations that they've been set upon. and this neighborhood where the young man was killed, they say any day, cops are there just pulling folks over. so to see what happened on, i guess it was wednesday night and see the paramilitary vehicles. they say this is exactly the culture that has been kind of brewing here. that there has been this militarization that keep these people in control. >> trymaine, what is the mood now? you've seen, obviously, some

tension because questions weren't answered by the local police chief. but now you've got the governor more involved. is there a feeling that they want to see changes at the top of the police in ferguson? >> there have been some people that called for the police chief tom jackson's job. again, we're still early. it's kind of par for the course. they are upset with the system, upset with the department. clearly upset with the front line officers. and there had been -- i spoke to some folks last night that -- saying barack obama and the attorney general weighing in really mattered. >> the missouri state police are now speaking.

>> testing, testing. i'm not sure where it went off at, but what i was saying, when i had to consider a commander for this assignment, i had to consider the resources of the highway patrol. certainly our best resource are our people. the best resource that i could bring to this situation was captain ron johnson. so i would like to introduce him for him to update you on the, vents that occurred last night and what's ahead for today. so, captain johnson. >> all right. good afternoon. and if you can't hear me, i'll step out into the crowd a little bit. well, i can tell you this -- i'm going to tell you, i'll stand here. if the crowd can't hear me then i'm going to step out there. i'm here to make sure they hear what we're talking about. they can't hear me. so i'm going to step out here. >> take the mike with you.

>> right now what you are seeing is a little bit of chaos. what's happening is officer johnson wants the crowd there to hear him so he wants to step away from the microphones. he's going back to the microphones now. let's hear him, but he does want to make sure that the crowd hears what he has to say. this is community policing and this is what we need. >> when this day is over, a lot of people will be gone. the people behind you will be here and i'll be here, okay? so i'll answer your questions. last night was a great night. it's a great night. there was no calls for service. we did not deploy teargas. we did not have any road blocks. we did not make any arrests. it was a good night.

people were talking. people were inspiring each other. people were getting their voices out. and we were communicating a lot better. and they were communicating better with us. we had many leaders and activists out there yesterday that were helping keep the road open, informing the crowd. and that's what i expect to continue throughout this event. our department along with salos county and city had a great night. myself and chief belmar went down to the quick trip yesterday and walked and shook hands and talked to people and listened and promised that we're going to communicate better. and we're going to give answers to their needs. and we're going to continue to do that each and every night. you'll see me walking down there. this morning when i came, the first thing that i did, before i even came up here n got a briefing from our officers here at the command post who went down there so i could get a briefing from the people that are living in this community. so i could come back and have a proper conversation here with

command post. >> does the release of the officer's name and also the security footage showing the suspect possibly strong-armed robbery change the dynamics of this challenge? >> i think the release of the name is what was requested by the community. and they've gotten it. i have not seen the video. i was watching the news this morning when i heard it came out. i've not seen that. it would be hard for me to comment on that. >> will that impact the tranquillity that we saw last night? a lot of people are angry once again. >> i can tell you that today i will meet with the chief of ferguson and talk about how that was released. try to get a copy or be able to analyze the packet that they have. and this afternoon, i will be walking back down to the quick trip and talk to the people there and explain what i see in the packet and some of the questions that may have been unclear in the presentation this morning. i will try to make those clear. but i can tell you, our task here is ensuring the safety of

the citizens of ferguson, the health of the businesses in ferguson, but also to ensure that the people of ferguson have their voice, their right to speech, their right to gather is maintained. and that's what we will continue to do. >> captain, what about -- >> are you concerned about security with the name release? is he being protected? are you concerned about his safety? >> i have not talked to chief tom jackson -- i have not talked to chief tom jackson, and so i am unaware of anything he has in place. >> they have shown that it is mike brown on the video that they've released this morning. the guy is a young man. the picture looks like him, but the picture, you look closely at the detail, when you look at it, with socks on. the picture of mike brown in the

middle of the street, he had the black of the shoe being a sole. so they are stating that is mike brown in that picture, and i think that is so unfair. you have to look at the whole picture, from head to toe. >> i have not seen that. but i guarantee you, i will look at that packet, and i will look at that. and that's why i'm down there so i can get this kind of information. >> did the locals mishandle the crowd control? >> like we've talked before, i am going to talk about yesterday. and i think yesterday we handled it just right. shook hands. we had a great time. we're going to talk about last night and move forward today. i can tell you what happened last night is what's going to happen here forward. >> is it now a strained relationship between the state and locals? >> no, there's not. i talked to chief belmar laugh night. there are officers here riding

hand in hand. >> the community has been asking for the name of this officer to be released for a long time now. it comes on the same day police release footage that's per ported to be mike brown involved. what's behind the timing of this? >> i can't tell you what the timing is because i saw it on the news this morning along with everybody else. >> -- on the same day as the officer's name. it seems to be -- >> i can't answer that. that may have been a question to ask chief jackson this morning. >> [ inaudible ]. >> i can tell you as far as basic investigation, we're not involved in -- the governor has tasked us to provide security. he wants to make sure that people in ferguson are safe and

that they have a right to protest and speak their minds. and so that's what he's tasked us to do, and that's why we're here. >> [ inaudible ]. >> yesterday -- that's our task. when you look at a lot of the mission statements -- so that's number one. i can't speak to the incident. i wasn't there. i think it would be unfair to speak to something -- the things we do know about.

the things i can give answers to, i'll do that. >> and we've got technical difficulties, obviously, with our audio and picture. we're going to ride this out as much as we can. what you are listening to is ron johnson, the captain who is from the highway -- state highway police, and he says that his mission is to let the people of ferguson protest and march peacefully as they did last night. he said last night was a great night. that they will be out there every night. that he will be walking with the people, walking the streets, and that he's going to be on the streets without all of the armor that we saw in previous nights. so this is his approach to policing. it's on order of the governor and it's obviously a big change in what we had seen previously in ferguson. let's go back to it and see how that audio is perhaps cleaned up as you see the governor at his side.

>> [ inaudible ]. >> i find it utterly disgusting. i don't know how i can go back to my community and say, hey, i asked you all for the official word. you gave this as the official position. what am i supposed to go back and tell the people because you're not being included in the conversation. this looks like -- this is all figure head stuff. >> i can tell you that's not the case. you and i are meeting each other for the first time. this is going to be a serious conversation when we leave here and i tell you when you see me tonight down there, i think you'll get the tone of my conversation. it's going to change. but -- hold on.

but i can also tell you this, in our anger, we have to make sure that we don't burn down our own house. we don't go down there and vandalize our own building. we can stand on the sidewalk and talk about our issue. we can talk about what we want and what we need and a conversation that needs to happen. and we can make that happen. but what i don't want is us to go down and burn our own neighborhood. that does not prove a moipoint. that hurts this community. that's what i don't want. >> can you clarify some facts about -- >> and how do you expect the kids to [ inaudible ]. what are you going to do for them to [ inaudible ] on one hand, when they go to school, step out that door. how are you all going to keep that together? >> you bring up a fine point. and we may need to talk to the

school districts and offer them that we will come in, if i need to go to the schools and talk to those kids and give them confidence and let them know that i'm just like their parents. i went to the same schools they went to. if i need to go. we'll reach out to the school districts and those principals and superintendents and let them know if they need us to come by and speak to those young children. we will do that. >> what thisgentlemen is saying there seems to be a release of information and how the community is reacting. keeping the peace, other agencies in charge of releasing the information. the two sides have not yet met and gotten together and coordinated that effort. do you think this is a conversation that's going to be had so that you are in the loop with the release of the information and can react accordingly to the public? >> i guarantee it's going to be a conversation. it's not going to be a conversation i'm going to have over the phone.

>> can you clarify the timing -- >> by talking to some residents here, they were saying that this is not a black and white issue, that this is about justice. that no matter the color of the officer that killed michael brown, they want justice. i wanted to hear your thoughts about the sentiment of this community that said that they feel that there's not a good communication between themselves and the police department that patrol the streets of this community and there's a lack of confidence. what are your thoughts about this? >> i agree that this is not a black and white issue because we all have sons and daughters. and we do need to communicate better. you saw what communication did yesterday. so we do need to communicate better. we're going to do that. the governor talked about old wounds. this is an old wound. but it's time to stop saying it's an old wound and close it for good. >> can you clarify -- >> the county prosecutor bob mccullough and the county police, is this release of this video linked to that strain of

mccullough objecting to the highway patrol being in charge? >> this release came from the ferguson police department and chief tom jackson. >> you said -- >> how are you going to make your own community and especially the black community feel safe and protected around here after many incidents in the last three weeks here, all across the united states. this is the one with the biggest outrage. what are your exact actions to make black young people, black families feel safe in your own community again? >> yesterday we saw what it should be. we saw what it could be. and we saw what it will be. >> how do you feel about police officers on duty? there's an experiment in the united states where it works really well. the violence and reports about officers that stepped over the power decreased by 60%. is that something that you push for or not for to prevent incidents like that that a young boy loses his life? >> i believe in cameras.

every missouri state patrol car is equipped with a camera. >> this was an incident that we still don't know clearly what happened. you try to investigate it. i have a feeling people still feel confused and they don't know what is happening. and they are getting cynical and they are getting angry again. they have to kind of break through the circle of violence. as you said, you want it peacefully. you want a safe community. there must be a step taken by the police department to make those people here feel safe. this is your first duty to protect the people and not to shoot them down. >> i agree. and agencies are moving towards cameras and whether body cameras or car cameras, i think cameras are important. they are a part of law enforcement. you see them throughout the country. our job is our job. and i'm going to do my job the same way if i'm on a camera or not. and so having a camera, it doesn't change the way i perform my job if i'm doing my job right. >> the timeline about this --

>> got to step down. >> mr. brown, prior to him being killed, there's a lot of evidence come out of his character, what he was before the shooting. why is there not the same transparency, when we talk about -- this young man lost his life. they don't know. they can trust the police to protect them on their way. whether he was the guy or not, a young man lost his life here. let's not paint this a white and black issue. this is all over the world as a young black man. i'm a father. i am scared to death for my children to explain to my son why his friend isn't here anymore. the police are here to protect and serve you and when they see police shooting teargas in crowds of little babies, that bothers me as a parent no matter what color you are. i have a question for you, sir.

what are you going to do to make people feel like they are being respected. this officer's name, we had to wrestle to get this officer's name. there's photographs on social media of a young man laying dead in a street. we are coming to you guys, the authorities, mr. nixon, to ask you to give us some sense of passion or some sense of respect as young black people here in america to know we can come to our police officers and they will protect and serve us, not just protect but serve us. we're asking you to give service to our community so when i go home today, my young son, i can explain to him that an injustice has been done and believe in the police that are here. we pay our tax monies to. they are going to do the best they can to protect you. ju there is someone there to protect them. that is the bottom line, the underlying problem i see here with a lot of these young black folks. i see a lot of these young men,

all different agencies. and this thing is going to boil way over than just mike brown because they are tired when they've been oppressed for so long and this situation has been put on the back burner for so long. what can we do to ensure these folks that there is somebody here that's thinking about them and want to protect you. the police, the military or whomever. >> i can tell you that we have outstanding law enforcement officers in our state. both black and white, male and female. are we perfect? no, we're not. but i tell you what. i wake up each day and i've got a son. i've got a daughter. i want them to walk the street with safety. i talk about our intent is to make this state safe and to stand strong and protect all of our citizens. in this state and the nation. our intent means nothing if those are your feelings, that means we have to do a better job. i can tell you today, whenever we walk away from this and these cameras are gone, this is our opportunity to show you that you

can trust us. it shows you that if i do something wrong, that another police officer will come up and say, you're wrong. and we need something different, okay? and i told you earlier today that i thought that information could have been given out in a different way. i could have said it was perfect. i could have said i would have done it the same way and i'm not telling you that. we're going to have some conversation and make sure we're perfect. the highway patrol. st. louis county. i have an issue in my own home, ooum not going to call the highway patrol. i'm going to call st. louis county because i trust them. we know this isn't a perfect world. you said you have a barber shop. you know every barber isn't good. there's some bad barbers. but that's the kind of way of the world. but when you go home and you see your kids tonight, when i got home last night, my daughter said to me this. daddy, were you scared? and i said, just a little bit. and she said, dad, i want you to

remember, when jesus asked peter to walk with him on the water. when peter got scared, jesus picked him up and said have the faith. and i'm telling you today, we need to be just like peter. because i know we're scared. and i know we're falling, but he's going to pick us up and pick this community up. >> scaled back presence last night. we're already seeing threats of riots tonight. what's your plan securitywise tonight to make sure it doesn't get out of hand. >> you are telling me what social media is telling you. i'm going to see what the people tell me. >> have you noticed the change in protesters, moods, since these pictures were released this morning? >> yes, i have. >> can you describe what you are seeing? >> it's unclear. it's unclear. we need to state the facts.

and i intend to change a mind or two. >> a couple quick questions. first of all, i think it's important to note the specific responsibility here that the highway patrol on the ground by captain johnson have, and they are doing, i think, an outstanding job and will continue being here in the community doing that. i also say that nothing should deter figuring out how and why michael brown was killed. that is not the task with which the colonel was given, and he assigned responsibilities. but there is a lot of steps between now and when justice is served. and there are going to be a lot of other bounces along the way. and there will be a lot of tension at various times. >> is there anything we can do to expedite that process? >> you have parallel processes going on here. we have got this local one and department of justice. those need to be accurate.

they need to be clear. they need to be thorough. and before conclusions are reached, they need to be complete. and i know there's been -- i said certain things should have come out sooner than they did later. but that's not the point. where do we stand and where are we standing now is that that new facts are out that weren't out yesterday. but those are not the full picture of anything. those are some facts that came out. i'm not saying they're not rel haven't or important. but we cannot forget. yeah, they are facts. they are pieces of information. >> do you think it's been mismanaged? >> no, there's been -- i think the focal point here remains from the -- to figure out how and why michael brown was killed and to get justice as appropriate in that investigation. now because of the appropriate outpouring of angst about both

substance and the process, what captain jackson and his team are attempting to do -- excuse me, captain johnson, is to make sure that folks have a chance to give their voice as well as keep the peace at the same time. that's our focus. >> one good night, what about -- >> [ inaudible ]. >> i think you saw it. i think everybody saw a clear change of tone and operational activities yesterday. and i'll stand by that. yeah, captain? >> there is a possibility that [ inaudible ]. if that happens, could it hit the fan again? >> i think there's a lot of steps along the way that are going to cause angst and pressure. that's natural here and appropriate, quite frankly. there's a young man was killed. there's an officer involved in

that. there are -- there's a great deal of energy, appropriate, accurate, real energy. and so i think we'll look at those guide posts and engage them accordingly. i think we're hoping to make sure that during this process, this difficult challenging process, that there is focused energy and peace for the businesses and people of this community. here then there. >> the protesters, will they be allowed where they want to protest or for their safety and everybody's safety -- >> i'll leave those questions -- the captain will get their operational -- i just don't know. yeah. >> what's your reaction to the prosecuting attorney [ inaudible ]. >> we're focused on the responsibilities we have here. >> governor, right here. >> i'm sorry. >> looking at ferguson and the

way it has blown up, i guess, how can you look at the other educational foundations in the surrounding communities are failing or closing or losing its accreditation. the school districts are fighting among each other. michael brown graduated from high school but graduated from a certain high school and was going on to further his education in a trade school. for the other children that came from the other communities that came into this community and have this uproar, how are you going to enthusiastically help their educational level? >> obviously, some of the schools have already started. normandy -- riverview has. normandy opens on monday. i think we've all got a lot of things to do to make sure those children have the opportunity to begin school. how do we get to these long-range issues? we have to be doing a lot. that's not a simple question. but i will tell you that making sure that we improve the quality and access to education and provide that opportunity for all

of our kids, public schools are the backbone of our state. and we'll continue working. i do think it's especially challenging here with some of the issues that have arisen. >> my parents marched. my parents marched peacefully and not peacefully. didn't matter which side it was on. but they gave me a quality education in the city of st. louis. our city schools are closing, governor. you are the chief. you are the admiral, the head. why are our schools closing. why are they being boarded up and sold off? >> we'll get back to -- we'll continue our discussion because these are major issues. let me just quickly say that we see challenges to city schools. i don't mean to get micro about this, but as you see some of the gones were made this year, some of the investments in preschool made over the last few years, direct leadership of dr. adams in there. next question.

anybody else? here and then you. >> [ inaudible ]. simply after removal of military-style police has that made you reconsider the use of this in missouri police departments? >> i think you always do, after things are done you always do a hot wash later an and analyze. and i know the patrol through the academy and whatnot watches all of this and tries to do better each time. i think we're learning a lot. but i don't want to be critical of anybody as to what they've done. i made the decision i made to give the order to the colonel to shift the operational change here and i think it made a very positive difference over the last 18 hours and my full expectation is it will continue to pay big benefits for safety and security and the opportunity to get justice as quickly as possible. >> everybody -- we've had a lot of questions. let's take two more questions. two more questions. one for the governor and one for

captain johnson. >> [ inaudible ]. >> parallel investigation is going on. the justice department under attorney general holder is one of those. st. louis county is doing a separate one. those are two separate ones. >> have you ruled out bringing out the military vehicles again? >> that's a local operational choice. >> what's the long-term plan here? how long do you expect things to be the same way? >> you know, i think there are going to be some bumps along this road with justice. i think there are going to be some moments of angst between now and the finish line of this process. and it's important that during that process, we not see the energy, appropriate energy amassed to cause outburst but instead to be used to make sure justice is served and that there's safety. so i think there's going to be a number of points along the way. >> being governor, wouldn't you

say that details have come out in this case and not facts? because if you are doing a thorough investigation, you have yet to prove what is actually fact if you are -- >> i'm not proving anything. if i said facts or details, i meant information was released -- >> you say facts though, and that's different. >> if -- i didn't mean to nuance it in that way. information that i had not seen that the captain has not seen n none of these guys have seen came out. and like i said, the captain has already answered that question. >> do you see the -- >> [ inaudible ]. >> i'm sorry? >> why do you think the information that came out about his supposed robbery and [ inaudible ]. >> i don't know. i don't know. >> let's have one last question. we've got to wrap up. >> [ inaudible ]. >> like i said, we're focused on the operational situation we're in.

i'm not aware of longer term problems. >> was this officer carrying a taser? >> i have no idea. >> or club? >> what was your response to this situation? >> on monday i asked for the department of justice investigation. on tuesday i appeared in the community. on wednesday i appeared in the xhoonity, on thursday i appeared in the community. on friday, i'm here. whatever folks are saying out there, very quickly -- >> it's about how we feel. people outside looking in. our children, our brothers and husbands and fathers. every day -- and when chief jackson, this department, we're talking about this whole process being transparent and chief jackson throws out these names of the police officer along with pictures of a probable cause for

michael brown being shot and killed and then he does not take questions. that was like a blow back in our face. it was very sarcastic. his presence and it was very, very sarcastic. it was not responsible. we were -- this is our community, and we have people like that that are in charge? we don't need people like that in charge. not just one people of one race but to all people. i am a mother. and like a lot of people out here, we're parents. we have children and families that we love. and if we cannot trust our police officers, who can we trust? who can we trust? we shouldn't have to have -- to show we want to be treated equal and fair. you swear and take an oath of being a police officer, you should be sworn to protect and

ser serve. the way that the mayor and the way that you handled it, what is going to help us get this trust back and bring together -- >> two things real quickly. two things real quickly. i think you saw -- you continue to see patrol under my -- the order i gave to the colonel in this community. captain jackson will be here. he's in the direct line of command all the way up to me. he's going to be in your community. you can rest well assured he's communicate, we're communicating back and forth to make sure -- i think he's a little better trained than me. i think he's got more skills to deal with the challenges that's are here than i do on the ground and i have full confidence that he and the patrol are going to do a good job. i would ask that this process goes forward. we're trying to make sure that there's an open way that folks

can express their energy, express their concerns while protecting the property and getting this process to its necessary conclusion in a timely and complete fashion. and i would ask everyone to follow the lead of the captain and do the best you can to respect the peace. >> anything you'd like to add? >> to your concern, sunday night, the governor was involved sunday night, monday. there were a lot of things that went on behind the scenes. he's been here. he's been in conversation. so he has been here. one thing i will say about the governor, he's saying this isn't about him. this is about each of you. and so he's definitely been here all week. he came yesterday. and he came today. and i -- we've had other incidents in our state and i can't remember a time we've had a governor for five days being involved and show up and be here. and he's been here every day. and i can tell you when my phone rings and i'm talking to the colonel or talking to the governor, that doesn't happen every night.

and so he is -- >> [ inaudible ]. >> i have been talking about that after this is over. there are bigger things that have to happen after this is over. there's things that have to happen after this is over to make us all better, and they need to continue to happen. and you -- and training, diversity, having more minority officers in our communities. it needs to reflect more women an our police departments so all of that needs to happen. and the only way it's going to happen is if you demand it, and we listen and make it happen. >> captain and governor johnson -- >> last question. i'll be down there later tonight. last question. >> -- protesters anywhere in the city or is there going to be a chaunge, areas to protect them

for their safety, or protect the roads? >> the area last night where the protesters were, we've got port-o-potties down there. there's barriers down there. that's where we will be there. we'll make sure that they can be along that street and stay as long as they want. >> what time you want me to come back? >> [ inaudible ]. -- and surrounded with police officers. all the traffic prevented them to go down to protest peacefully. they were redirecting them to my street. and so why was there protection in areas other than the areas where they were redirecting the traffic?

my husband and i have been unable to come home since 7:00 last night when they took out the military style riot gear. i'm unable to shop peacefully at [ inaudible ] while they still lock up people in mcdonald's and they still are not bringing trust back to the community. last night it was peaceful. all of the stuff changed. >> new day. >> wait a minute, my question is, those were still police officers. someone gave them orders. someone gave them directives. so it may be a new day, but i still have to live through hearing bomb-like sounds while they pull the media and helicopters away and all of a sudden, the next morning, i hear about -- how can i feel comfortable and safe? it's a new day for you all but once it's over, what's going to happen for us that are still here when the news reports are

still reporting looting and riots and peaceful protest. how is it going to be a new day for me when all across the country my relatives are, are you okay? everything the reporters put out has to do with his background, has to do with the looting. has to do with the rioting. has to do with everything but the case. civil rights have been violated. >> my phone is ringing and saying the same thing that she's saying. show what you saw last night. >> yesterday on the news, none of it was protest eers. where are the media? >> i'll see you guys tonight. >> as you can see, that was an extraordinary, what was basically a community meeting more than that. more of that than a press

conference. the passion, the anger. you have still photos showing you what was going on. that's the crowd asking questions of captain ron johnson and the governor jay nixon. and what you heard was people saying, if i can't trust the police, whom can i trust? heard from captain johnson from the highway patrol who has taken over who walked the streets last night, demilitarized on the governor's orders. he said yesterday you saw what it could be. what it should be. what it will be. and this after anger erupted again today after this police report, 16-page police report of the original incident in the convenience store. supposedly linked to the final incident but not details of that incident that led to michael brown's death. and the governor saying we will investigate on a parallel track. we will find out why michael brown was killed. the justice department was called in on monday. the st. louis county police will be investigating. but that is separate from

dealing with what is happening on the streets. joining me is msnbc.com's trymaine lee and reverend clinton stansel from ferguson. and also in atlanta, reverend jesse jackson, founder and president of the rainbow push coalition. you met with the governor. you asked a lot of questions. what you heard today is this an improvement or is there still a lot of work to do in ferguson? >> it is both. it's an improvement but also a lot of work to do. we thank the governor for, first of all, putting captain ron johnson. we got a snippet of what community policing should look like when the police does not take an adversariar role and when they partner with the xhoonity. we've got an idea what that looked like. also when there's diversity in the police force. so there was a whole change in atmosphere from wednesday night to thursday night. >> and one of the things that really struck me trymaine, from wednesday to thursday and the

change here is the tensions are so pent up that when this police report was issued today, as you have been reporting, the anger began to boil up again. and the anger was, i think, about the fact that it focused an the convenience store, that questions aren't answered and didn't answer any questions about the death. the four to six shots the police report says were fired at this apparently unarmed man. we don't know what actually transpired because they haven't told us. and captain johnson said he would sflnot have done it this . he wasn't covering for his fellow officer. he said he wouldn't have released the report that way. >> right. and like so much in this case, every step along the way, there's a different trajectory. we had the wild night earlier in the week. then calm last night. and it was kind of calm this morning until the release of this new information. people feel that it's just a cover-up, a smoke screen between the truth and them. when governor nixon said captain johnson has the skills to handle

the situation, it's not lost an anyone that he's also a black man from this community. unlike chief jackson who didn't answer any questions. he rushed off. when captain johnson stepped into the crowd, he was applauded and cheered and said when everyone else leaves, they'll be here and he'll be here. he called for peace again tonight and said he'll be walking with them. it's still a tenuous situation. people have so many answers. and the governor and kevin johnson answered some of those concerns. >> jesse jackson, you and i go back 30, 40 years in watching racial divides in this country. i think a lot of people were surprised a town with 21,000 people could have such a majority african-american population and have three african-american police officers. is that typical around the country? >> it's not typical, and it does not work. i really want to say captain ron johnson made himself eligible to be the next police chief of ferguson. he's handled himself in such a

way that he's brought calm to a very chaotic situation. i would submit to you that why there's the absence of noise and peace in the presence of justice. until you have a fair share of police, men, women, black and white, and judges and firemen and the budget, you'll not have real peace in that situation. i think captain johnson to be commended. >> and what has to happen next, jesse jackson, in this community? we need answers, don't we, as to the original incident and what happened to michael brown. >> the fact of the matter is that the police have released this report, this video seven days later, but how many times was he shot? and where was he shot? and why he lie in the street for several hours? that was a kind of state execution. but it's such a pattern. trayvon shot and the killer walks free. it's oscar grant in oakland.

it's abner lima in new york. unless we have some white house policy on urban policy and reconstruction that all these cities are like dry ships. what about st. louis? they were saying abandoned lots, vacant homes, closed stores. this kind of urban abandonment must be addressed. i hope it will be done soon. >> reverend jackson, thank you. trymaine, we know that you will be out there again tonight. the mood tonight really depends on captain johnson and local officials, but he's got to coordinate with this police chief who released the report in such a precipitous way. >> his presence has made all the difference. but also again, tonight, as last night, minus the military apparatus, that makes a huge

difference. when you had the military vehicles out here, you almost forced a standoff. without that standoff, people are free to roam and they told me last night, they feel a sense of freedom. they can express their rights and protest peacefully. and so while people are angry, you don't have that element that you had the night before with what seemed to be a very adversarial law enforcement apparatus. so even though in ferguson when night falls under these conditions, you never know what happens. if last night was any indication, perhaps we can expect some peace and calm tonight. >> reverend, what community work can be done with captain johnson and other officials to try to heal the wounds and deal with the deep-rooted problems in this community? >> i think one of the things that must take place first. one of the things we're calling for is a special prosecutor. we heard the statements of prosecutor mccullough when he seemed to -- captain johnson who was a part of this and bring

some diversity to this community. we got to come together as a part of this community. when we stage a protest on wednesday, we asked and got -- we asked the police department to walk with us. they said they was unless we began to shout no justice, no peace. they said they got afraid and refused to walk with the people. that's part of the problem. captain johnson walked with the people and so the police department and the civic leaders and the community has to come together. we have to communicate with one another, and also, let me just say this, andrea, real quick. we keep showing these images of michael brown may or may not be involved in a robbery. we're still looking at america. and the sentence for robbery in america is not death. so whether he was or not, he should not have died. >> no question about that. and that is one of the undisputed facts. have we heard anything more

reverend from michael brown's family in the aftermath of everything that's happened in the last 24 hours? >> well, no, i think they are happy. they've been calling for peace. last night we got peace. i think that's what they want. they -- people need to be free to express their emotions. we need access to information. holding information back from us, giving us information doesn't turn us into a riot gear. holding information back might. so we need more information. and we need to be transparent. and we need to address public policy. >> i think a very good first step in addition to what happened last night was the fact that captain johnson answered questions from the people there, not from the reporters. then he opened it up and turned it into a mini town hall meeting. that was responsiveness and he seems to be committed to the concept of community policing, reverend. >> i think that's right. i think the big difference is captain johnson is not afraid of his community. i think you can't have a police force that is afraid of his community. i'm going to be the first one.

i call for the captain of the chief of the ferguson police force to resign. we need someone in the community who is not afraid of the community. as i call for a special prosecutor to look at this case and so we can look at it fairly. >> thank you so much reverend. we really appreciate that. and thank you to trymaine lee and reverend jesse jackson and everyone else who helped us on this very complicated day. that does it for this edition of "andrea mitchell reports." we have a programming note. i'm going to be moderating "meet the press" on sunday. joining me will be jay nixon and john lewis. thank you to david gregory for 20 years at nbc. all the many stories that he covered. we'll be paying tribute to him on sunday as well. my colleague and my friend. and chuck todd, of course, will be taking over as the permanent moderator of the longest serving television program in history,

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details on his death, including the name of the officer who allegedly pulled the trigger. >> the officer that was involved in the shooting of michael brown was darren wilson. he's been a police officer for six years. has had no disciplinary action taken against him. >> and they released a police report detailing brown's death. the moments before and the moments after, including surveillance video they say shows brown stealing from a convenience store within minutes of that shooting. missouri governor jay nixon defended the investigation just this past hour. >> do you think this case has been mismanaged? >> no, there's been -- i think the focal point here remains from the -- figure out how and why michael brown was killed and to get justice as appropriate in that situation. >> first, let's get the latest an this investigation from