brown involved in a strong arm robbery at a convenient store. officers responded to that call when it turned in to a fatal encounter. the images along with the arrest report are public record. president obama is being briefed on the latest developments during his vacation ta turned out to be anything but in martha's vineyard. we will have more coming up. as well as the chief's remarks as soon as they happen. let's start on the ground in ferguson. we are about to hear from police chief jackson. >> after the calm of last night, the tone here, people are angry. they feel while they have been waiting for the release of the officer's name, it came with more of a smoke screen than anything else. they released pieces of a video.

police gave us stills. it is not clear in the context of what happened and we feel one doesn't necessary ly justify the other and what subpoena the connection between alleged robbery and the shooting death of michael brown. i spoke to a lawyer of the witness who was with michael brown when he was shot and with him in a convenient store not long before. he said, indeed, michael brown did steal a pack of mini cigars but there was no strong arm there. even though it is limited, what connection is there, if any? >> thank you so much. >> thank you so much you are doing incredible reporting out there inning for son for us. with the uproar surrounding the police shooting and new images of michael brown in the convenient store one move has helped to calm tensions the appointment of highway patrol captain ron johnson who marched with protesters last night. we heard from the captain who grew up in ferguson a short time ago. >> the first thing i did, before i came up and got a briefing

from the officers at the command post, i went down to get a briefing from the people who live in this community so i could come back and have a proper conversation here at the command post. >> i want to point out ron johnson came in and changed the situation completely at a moment when folks were saying perhaps we should have marshall law or call in the national guard, perhaps the situation is out of control. ron johnson came in and changed everything. i want to talk about ron johnson who should be lauded as a national hero at this moment changing the situation, coming in with hugs, with apologies, putting away the tear gas and the military weapons and saying to the folks, i have empathy for you. i understand what you are going through. you are allowed to protest all night long. just don't be violent and we

will march with you. it's an amazing turn around. >> it really is. the environment just turned around so quickly and so sharply. i think people now are saying after this morning's press conference there's a little bit of a pain -- i was talking to a couple of guys and they were talking about how there's a feeling that the ferguson police are trying to stop our momentum. we can't let this stop our momentum. we have -- we can't make this an instance that he died for nothing. >> the release of this officer's name, protesters have been asking for days now. darren wilson is his name. how will it impact the situation going forward? will it help with transparency or add more fuel to the fire? >> well, they finally -- they did what they needed to do. it's amazing it went this long. that they were able to go seven days or almost seven days

without a name. it feels like there are so many questions to be answered about the officer and who he is and the past of the police department "the daily beast" did a piece where they are talking about in 2009 the police charged the guy -- with the ferguson police department charged a guy who bled on their uniforms with property damage. this guy was getting beaten by ferguson police and they are charging him with property damage. i think there is more we need to know about the department and the constitutional racism in the city. >>. >> let's listen in though chief of police in ferguson on the ground. let's take a listen. >> ready? first of all, thank you for coming out here. we wanted to do this in this environment so we could hear each other and get whatever information we have let out.

i gave you a lot of information this morning and i wanted you to go over it and we have had some questions coming in to our twitter and so forth. we will address those. there is timing about the release of the tape. we have had this tape frail. we had to diligently review the information in the tape, determine if there was any other reason to keep it. anybody else charged in a crime. and we had determined that was not going to be the case. a lot of freedom of information requests for this tape. at some point, it was just determined we had to release it. we didn't have good cause absent any other reason not to release it under foi and decided at the same time it one be prudent to release that information which

could be a little bit -- i don't know. we needed to release that at the same time we would release the name of the officer who was involved in the shooting. so that we could keep open and give you all of the information we is. we have pretty much given you every bit of information we have now. i don't think there is anything else that we have to give out. regarding the second suspect who was in the store in the tape, dorian johnson, we determined he did not commit a crime and was not come police it -- complicit the crime. on the role of the officer, some thought there were two separate officers. this robbery does not relate to the initial contact between the

officer and michael brown. having said that, i'll take a few questions. >> we haven't heard any information yet, chief that would justify the use of deadly force. >> okay. i understand that. these are questions that have to go to the investigation. i don't think that anything from the investigation will be released until it is complete. >> is it your policy that when a weapon is discharged -- >> the officer fired the deadly shots knew mr. brown was involved in this incident? >> i can only go up to a certain point and then it is unreleased information in the investigation. that certain point is the initial contact between the officer and mr. brown was not related to the robbery. >> when a weapon is discharge ed there is paperwork that has to be filed out of a matter of protocol describing the conditions under which a weapon is discharged?

>> there's a use of force report that we have. all of the reports that will be written on this will be written by the st. louis county police department. >> the report made after the shooting. >> yes. >> do you have it. >> i don't have it in my possession. everything belongs to the county. >> how do you respond to those who say it is not michael brown on the tape? >> i just say take a look at the tape. >> chief jackson -- >> if it is under investigationing why not -- >> all i did -- what i did is release the videotape to you because i had to. i have been sitting on it. too many nut a request. >> why did it have to be today, chief jackson? >> i understand that. consider if i just released the

tape and didn't release the officer's name there would be similar questions. >> i am going to read you a statement. michael brown's statement is beyond outrage the devious way the police chief has chosen to disseminate piecemeal in a manner intended to asass nsa nate the character of their son. what is your response to that? >> my heart goes out to the family. i can't imagine what they are going through wchl ve given you everything we can give you. from our police department, you have everything we have got. there's nothing else i can give you. >> chief jackson, the timing of the release of the video. >> i had a meeting scheduled with the family yesterday morning. representatives from the family came. the family did not. they hasn't had a chance to consult with their attorney. >> it seems like you are only answering questions that demean the character of mike brown. when we ask questions about the way you handled the case, why you release, it is under investigation. you put more citizens in trouble

by releasing the video now they have to be protected because their store and business has been placed in immediate yachl you say you are concerned about your safety but it seems like you are concerned about the officers safety. >> i'm absolutely concerned about the safety of my community. >>. >> he has been a police officer for six years, two with jennings. and four years with us. >> i can't go in to the security of the officer. >> can you talk about his injuries? >> yes. so the officer involved in the shooting was he aware of the robbery call? >> i don't know. i don't know what came out in his interview. i know his initial contact was not related to the robbery. it was related to -- >> you are telling us when the officer stopped michael brown for the first time, he was not aware that brown was a suspect

in a robbery? >> no. he was just coming off of a sic case which is why the ambulance was there so quickly. >> you are saying -- what are you saying, chief? did he know he was a suspect in a case or did he not know. >> no, he didn't. >> had nothing to do with the stop. >> nothing to do with the stop. >> why release the video. >> at this point why did he stop michael brown? >> because they were walking down the middle of the street blocking traffic. that was it. >> did you find evidence of the stolen merchandise on the body? >> yes. >> why did you put more citizens in harm's way. >> are there any other new questions? >> is there a photograph of the officer? >> i was asked that. i'm going to consult with my city attorney and make sure it is part of foi. i just got that question.

>> they are doing a good job and have been here since the beginning and i have every confidence in them. the st. louis county police department is here too. >> they said it was a den gags to your officer a decision by the governor to bring in the state highway patrol. do you agree with bob mccullough. >> that's political and i'm not going to get involved in that. what i will say i know the officer in charge, i have known him for years and i have every confidence in him. >> now that the state police have taken over and there is no tear gas are you excited about that. >> the report that his eye may have been shattered severe injury. >> the side of his -- >> if it is under investigation you shouldn't be able to release that. >> what i tell you about the incident, the shooting is what has been released by the st. louis county police department. everything i say to you, i can't say anything other than that.

>> could you describe the officer to us? tell us more about him? what details did he work? how would you describe his demeanor did you have ever any issues with him, profiling or discrimination. >> he had no complaints. he was a gentle, quiet man, a distinguished officer, yes. >> chief, you talked all over me. you have a tendency to do that. >> yes, we do. >> could you describe him? >> he was a gentleman, a quiet officer. and he was -- he is and has been an excellent officer for the police department. >> how has he been affected by this? >> it is devastating. he never intended for any of this to happen. >> the officer if he did not kill -- if the murder and the robbery did not come together why did the video come out if it is not related together? >> because the press asked for it. >> earlier in the day --

>> pardon me. >>. [ inaudible ] >> anybody remember? >> i don't remember. i will find out for you. one more question. [ inaudible ] >> we can't hear you. >> try it again. >> earlier in the day you said the officer was responding because of the description of a robbery suspect had gone out an the description matched michael brown. now you are saying he stopped him because he was blocking traffic. >> i don't think i said he went there because of a robbery call. he was in the areaer following the robbery because he was on sick case. >> the robbery had nothing to do with the stop why release the video of the robbery? what's the explanation of the timing. >> you asked for it. i held it as long as i could. >> there's no connection between

video and the stop. >> there appears to be nothing -- >> captain johnson and i just spoke about our communication breakdown. we -- i talked to chief belmar about this. we talked to the command post out there but i did not personally call him and should have done that. i'm still in the county being in charge mode. >> hindsight being 20/20 -- >> thank you very much. >> speak to the citizens. >> that is ferguson chief of police tomman mass jackson in a difficult press conference. several questions he was unable to answer. he conceded we cannot be sure it is hikal brown on the convenience store videotape and he said the officer in question darren wilson did not know that brown was a suspect when he encountered him in the street that. got us talking about the table as we were watching this. that led you to say the tape is irrelevant in our discussion of

what happened between wilson and brown. >> that's right. the most significant piece of information to come out of this press conference that is legally relevant is this assertion by the police chief that there was no connection between the video and the alleged robbery and the state of mind of the officer who al actually killed the suspect. what we're basically being told is this is something that happened previously but this officer didn't know about it. why that is important legally is that means what you see in the video that we have on the screen has no bearing on the office ear's state of mind, reasonable a tension of a threat, et cetera. the kind of things that may make for the case of a justified killing in policing. that is significant. it doesn't tell the story of the suspect, what he may have done that may have also created that kind of apprehension but that was a seg cant thing. we had heard questions from reporters saying well, that's

fine you had a request but it seems odd to time it together if it is not rel stroont the officer's knowledge or state of mind. >> i want to bring in a law professor specializing if police study what do you make of the idea that this is irrelevant to the case. >> i don't think it is irrelevant at all. one thing i have learned when officials give statements that's not usually the whole story. there's a lot of depositions. i don't know if the union is involved. what the officer said and heard i think we should take pause because we don't know his side of the story. we don't have information about him. we don't know if he heard something over the radio. we don't know if this official's version is correct. the video will be relevant to this. >> you are suggesting the police chief coming out and saying this was not the source of the contact, he said under direct questioning, the officer didn't

know. you say that may not be the story. >> i would never quote an official directly only because it's been my experience once the officer is deposed by the union stories change, oh, that's not true. unless i hear it for myself it is here say. >> do you think this is a concern what we have from the victim's family, the concern this was piecemeal information. what you are speaking to is the risk of depositions and later interviews because this is coming out. >> piecemealing everything is a problem, especially in a situation where you have this type of public concern. under the microscope because what you do, every little thing you do could blow something else up. to me it is better to give everybody the information as much as you can up front and not piecemeal it but honestly there's an investigation here and probably going to be death threats and public safety issues. there are all kinds of variables that come up with these kind of things. >> let's talk about the notion of a just fied shooting. a lot of people would say if a

person was committing a crime, any sort of crime, officers may feel they have the right to do whatever they need to do to stop that person. others would say once somebody is trying to submit to the officer the officer can no longer use deadly force against that person. what is your insight here? >> just to go back on the video. i guess the police will say it will go to his state of mind. that he knows if he's allegedly involved here. certainly the use of deadly force in this situation is only if you believe that deadly force is being used against you. generally you shouldn't use deadly force to apprehend people who, are in this case there's no reason to believe they are armed. one thing that is obvious is the police department needs to find a better way to get the information out. some other mechanism, the attorney general, prosecutors office. the chief is in an awkward position of vouching for his officers and giving information out that appears to be favorable to his organization.

in addition to sort of recusing themselves on the issue of the riot control and the crowd control, they should give serious consideration to the local police stepping out of this and getting some other entity to give this information, more objectively to build trust and confidence. >> that's right to the point of trust and confidence. the community mood, you heard questions where folks where voicing what some in the community are feeling that why are we hearing the name of the officer which we have been asking for which is about transparency and what many feel is an attack on the character of the person who was the victim in all of this. and putting those out at the same time definitely risks community unrest. >> no doubt. you are vouching for the officer. it is not an appropriate time or place to have that conversation. this is about facts. objective information and sthe department needs to come clean

with as much information as they can. generally you are better off to err on the side of disclosure. you are going to fuel suspicion by sitting on information. an earlier decision should have been made to set forth this information. obviously some people will never be convinced this wasn't a fabrication or smear job because of the timing. >> you talked about the danger of piecemeal information. being a little wary of what the police chief is saying right now. we want to get all of the information out. what are the chances we will get to the bottom of this case? we have an eyewitness. they are very different conflicting stories right now. can we get there? will the grand jury get us there. will forensic evidence get us there. >> it is slow and methodical and i can tell you as a trial attorney i have been on both sides of this issue and there are three things even when you do to trial you don't know. until after the depositions are

done and until all of the information, i have had murder trials where ten witness witnesses that the person was not found guilty even with the eyewitness testimony of ten people. you don't get to the end of the story until the jury speaks. >> say the suspect was involved and he was involved in this altercation. what's this line for excessive force if he was shot dead in. >> well, again, police department should be using every reasonable alternative to bring in to custody. shouldn't be shooting fleeing felons unarmed unless there is a compelling reason. so it's a pretty clear line. the difficulty is we give police broad power and the police officer can say i was fearful with this person, coupled with the video, this allegation, that alone could murky the case.

>> you use the term compelling. for our viewers when you say it has to be a compelling reason for an officer to use deadly force, what's an example of that? >> well, their life hangs in the balance. the life of the officer or somebody else hangs in the balance. that's the proper standard to apply. >> i could give you examples from my cases. i. >> each state is different. >> no, each case is not different. if a police officer feels there is a struggle over a gun and pull out the gun and shoot them that is justified reason for a shooting. if he initiated it is a different circumstance. >> that would be -- to slow down and break out the point you are making. that would be the suspect was close enough to the gun that the officer had that reasonable. >> trying to take them in to custody. a lot of times they try to grab for the gun. >> in in the case of -- say it

is at a distance, what would make sglit if they are shot in the back, running, if the circumstances don't wapg out that they were if fear -- even if it is one of those situations where the officer is under stress. however, there's no justification for shooting somebody running away and doesn't have a weapon. no matter what the circumstances. so these are -- it gets fact specific with these cases all the time. that's why i'm saying until you hear the testimony and even with some jury trials i have been disappointed juries. >> some of the problems we come this to, some people are saying when we have huge racial disparities between a police force and the folks who they are tasked with policing this we can run in to huge problems where bias infects both sides and these sort of things happen. >> we need ito not get nailed down on the facts here. i thought the facts will be figured out.

what is clear you don't need to get to the it inty fwritty of the facts of the case we have a national problem with race relations. law enforcement has serious issues and there's more than one ferguson where you have this dysfunctionalty and law enforcement is a poor -- you can travel the country and see communities where despair settled in and only service offered is policing. >> there are a lot of police officers -- we had an incident ten miles from here in jersey city where a police officer was ambushed. there are stories on both sides. it is about communication, staying in touch with the community, people having a open foreruchl and not getting to this situation swrechl known there are racial issues. >> the police footprint in the country is too big. >> the government's footprint is too big. >> we keep adding laws and ord nances and opportunities for

conflict with people and force hangs over all of that. legislatures every year are adding laws and forcing the police. >> it is always the people who have the power that are making decisions for everyone else. it has always been like that in our society. controlling it is a different story. >> great points. thank you for your insight. on this very, very fluid situation. a quick break and we will get back on the ground in ferguson. how are these new details from the police chief being received? specifically revelation that the officer who shot and killed michael brown was not even aware he was a suspect in the convenience store robbery. much more "cycle." ahead. so now we've turned her toffee into a business. my goal was to take an idea and make it happen. i'm janet long and i formed my toffee company through legalzoom. i never really thought i would make money doing what i love. we created legalzoom to help people start their business and launch their dreams. go to legalzoom.com today and make your business dream a reality.

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back with the praeking news from ferguson where the police chief just wrapped up a news conference. it wuz big revelation that the officer didn't know anything about the alleged robbery that michael brown was involved in before the shooting. tell us what you are hearing on

the ground and reaction to that. >> if there was ever a hope the press conference would make things plain or simplify it didn't. before his statements this the officer wilson had no idea that he was a suspect at the time of the shooting people before then were questioning why the information was released in the first place. when he says it, it is clear one incident seem to have anything to do with the next. the horns are honking behind me. people are starting to grumble a little more. as soon as the information about the video and mike brown was an alleged suspect, people got to the their feelings. it seemed to be a smoke screen. >> sglit is for sieved -- the chief of police said he can't be certain it was brown on the

tape. i know you said previously that brown -- others conceded he still steal some cigars from that store. i don't know if you are standing by that reporting. but it seems the potential for community anger at this point, where the timing of the pieces of information seems very high. >> when you talk about the anger -- in breaking news situations everything is flufd. the facts are the witness said he was involved in the theft but people on the ground are questioning whether the clothes match. whether it is the same person at all. depending on who you talk to, you are seeing a different vantage point. the opportunity for us to shift from would have been a cool calming situation and now ramping up. it is clear -- i don't know if you can hear the honking in the background or people raising their voices now. it is clear folks are getting upset because they feel like when are we going to get some semblance of what happened?

>> what really happened goes to what kind of information police are re releasing. you heard the chief saying the reason they released the videotape is because they had multiple freedom of information requests. what do you think the protests response would be to that assertion. >> we are in the media and understand how it works. a lot of requests were around the shooting the report around the shooting. i'm not sure how much of the media fl media knew there was a robbery that happened before. in general people are upset because they are trying to get to the truth. it seems the ferguson police department and law enforcement officials are standing between them and the truth. they are complicating matters with connecting the young man with a robbery and saying it had nothing to do with the robbery

and the officer who fired the fatal shots didn't know he was a suspect at the time. you can imagine the confusion and anger that we are not anywhere closer to understanding what happened. >> you hear that anger and passion whenever you watch the press conferences. obviously emotions are deeper than just this incident. some people have already formed their opinion about what happened, regardless of what facts come out here. >> that's always the unfortunate situation. sometimes things are muddied with the harsh realities of history an the way they have lived. sometimes the facts of one incident get lost because they have proven themselves in the past to be brutal towards us and unfair towards us. we don't know many of the facts that surround the actual killing. all of this stuff creates this fog around the entire situation. again, that's feeding the turmoil here. we don't know what happened and still don't. >> thank you for your reporting

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down our bottom lines. iraq one of the biggest stories out this week. and resignation of nuri al maliki has done little to calm things. we haven't got an casualty count but it is believed several died on both sides. american forces continue their battle against the islamic state hitting a number of targets north of erbil. we find duncan once again there today. >> good afternoon, touré. almy maliki resigned. now they hope this can be the beginning to finding a longer term political solution in the fight against isis. nuri al maliki spoke 12 minutes last nate night on state tg and said he was stepping aside for the man he called his brother.

his brother has an incredible task on his hands less than 30 days to form a government that comprises and represents different sects. today there have been some positive signs, important sunnis saying they are willing to work wi with al badhi. that is what they have been hoping all along. the idea if perhaps sunnis, who are a minority in iraq feel represented and not persecuted against as they say they were during the maliki era, perhaps that will drain away support given to isis in the rest of the country. meanwhile in the north of iraq, the flow of refugees continues. there are hundreds of thousands of refugees. and the governor said the united states and great britain have a

political and ethical responsibility to do much, much more. from erbil, guys, i'm going to hand it back to you. >> thank you very much. the u.n. security council may be close to approving a resolution aimed at weakening the islamic state by cutting off their cash. is it too little too late? our next guest believes washington and the world's lack of a plan to stop radical islam could be a defining failure. welcome back the ceo and editor of foreign policy magazine. i want to start with the stepping down of maliki. a welcome development on this side of the atlantic. he was a central part of the problem, many believe. him persecuting sunnis and his inability or unwilling to create a unity government led to the strength of the islamic state when sunni moderates felt they could get morer respect out of the islamic state than the iraqi government. >> i think it is a step forward

to get rid of maliki and we have to hope that al badh i is able to do what he couldn't do, and that is create a poll rant government that has space for the sunnis and kurds but that's a tall order. he's unprooifen commodity as a strong leader. a gray party function their for sometime. the fractures within iraq are old and some ancient. the political solution we all seek and are hopeful this will lead to is not necessarily going to turn back isis, which after all, has its origins in syria and has been essentially going in to the cracks where governments aren't really able to function throughout this region trying to take root. and is not just doing this in isolation -- you see in places like libya and egypt and gaza, throughout the region other

extremist groups with a similar agenda doing the same thing. >> you write in your article that the big question here is who speaks for sunni islam, and that the extremists are gaining an upper hand right now. >> even in the most recent story you'll hear us talk about the sunni shia divide. it has been at the center of problems for iraq and much of the region since the day after the death of the prophet mohammad. now you have something else. what a diplomate i talked to called a new cold war in the region, a sunni-sunni divide, between extremists looking to upset the order and move back to political islam, a radicalized approach to islam and moderates who are trying to find a way balance their faith with a little bit of progress. each of the moderates do it in a different way with. none of them are perfect states, but at least they offer the hope of stability and a little more tolerance. the kind of islam practiced by

isis is something that we can see in the persecution of christians, the yazidis, and venn sunnis who don't go with isis in iraq and it's bloody and ugly and really barbarian. >> david, you have argued that we don't just need an iraq strategy. we need a broader regional middle east strategy. in fact that we are dealing with these as if they are separate incidents but a larger problem about these extremists. you draw a line from isis to hamas in fwaz is a to the muslim brotherhood in egypt. tell us why you think this is a broader regional problem. what are we going to do about it? >> first of all, i don't know what we are going to do about it. it would be nice if we took a step back and became strategic in the way we look at it. thus far, the united states has been a bit back on our heels because it is one crisis after another after another and we have been reacting to them

serially. i think we should look at the connection between them. that there are extremist groups and they have similar sources of financing in places like qatar that help to support extremist groups in syria and help yournd write the brotherhood and extremists in libya. there's a militant industrial complex at the middle of this whole thing. if we want to stop it, we have to do wa was mentioned in your earlier report, stop the flows of financing, get our allies together with traditional allies in the gulf and push back at this movement across the region and not just in any one place. >> this concern over terror has caused some nations who normally not work ast as closely together as israel and russia as you have been writing about to put the differences aside to fight this threat. it makes you think not only about the importance of a strat sdwri but a cohesive global strategy where everyone is on the same page and understands

the long-term goal we're trying to get to. >> it has an opportunity with it, right? the russians are afraid of this. the chinese are afraid of this. it has the israelis working with the egyptians, working with the gulf states, jordan, the saudis, the emirates, bahrain, kuwait, because all of them share a concern about this. give en that they do, that's an opportunity for us, as a leader, to put together a cohesive coalition, put pressure on the people that are helping these and identify ways that we can whittle away at their influence and push them back. >> thank you very much, sir. >> thank you. all that plus ferguson means no real vacation for the president, even if he is technically on vacation. now word he's coming back to d.c. on sunday for hush-hush meetings. more on that next. [ female anno] it's simple physics... a body at rest tends to stay at rest... while a body in motion tends to stay in motion. staying active can actually ease arthritis symptoms.

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♪ trouble makers. ♪ dreamer of dreamers. ♪ ♪ we are the y-a-o! ♪ (chinese singing) ♪ oh... oh... oh... oh... president obama's trip to martha's vineyard can best be described as a working vacation, emphasis on the working. while michelle and the girls were working he was announcing potential air strikes in iraq. since arriving he's dealt with a yazidi refugee crisis, headlines about a rift with hillary and the situation in ferguson. he's been on camera two more times since then. now we are hearing he is coming back to d.c. for two days of

meetings before going to the vineyard again. the vice president will also attend one of those meeting. "politico" dubbed this week "the vacation from hell." us now is critical of the president for leaving the capital during a crime of such turmoil. thank you so much for being with us. >> beware, dana, that he can do this while on vacation and not a problem. photos of him on the phone and now we're hearing stories he's komging back to d.c. for two days for big meetings. do we have any sense of what's so important it's bringing him back to d.c. or who might be attending these meetings, military advisers, any word on that? >> they already got osama bin laden so it can't be that. that two-daybreak from the break was actually scheduled at the beginning, it is always going to be the case he was returning to

washington for those two days. that created a bit of a pr problem saying if the president takes the white house with him, why would he actually need to return to the white house? the obvious reason that president benefits from being around the white house, he has the gravity, trappings of the office and all of these kris ease going on at the same time, it's stronger in the seps of leadership to speak from the back drop of the white house. >> there was a lot of talk about the vacation and folks saying, will he be able to do his job from somewhere else? it's one of the dumber things people come up with, can brings me to your article, obama can handle his commander in chief duties wherever he is, but he risks fueling the impression he's detach the as the world burns. the world has been surely burning but we have seen now a

week addressed the nation about it, updated the nation and dealt with the ferguson crisis and spoken to the nation. whether people or disagree with all of those things, it's hard to come to the end of the week and say the nation would think he was detached. what specifically hasn't he been able to do this week? >> i think it is -- i was making an argument about perception. i wrote in the article that the president takes the white house with him and can handle his commander in chief duties from there. and i said that even presidents need down time. i gave president bush a lot of abuse. he took more down time than this president does. but of course presidents need down time. the question i'm asking there is one of perception. do you want to announce a bombing campaign and go on vacation 36 hours later? i suspect he wouldn't have lost the deposit on the place in martha's vineyard if he pushed

it back or try not to get the press constantly getting shots of you on the golf course. it's about images and we can be pure and say, yes, he can do his job and who cares what the images look like. in politics, images matter. i think that he just left himself vulnerable to a lot of criticism. and it wasn't necessary, it's a self-inflicted wound. >> you're actually one of many that criticized presidents for a very long time. i happen to agree with you on perception being a very important thing but george w. bush was criticized and toctipe vacation days and obama a third. ronald reagan was criticized for jetting to california and tip o'neill says he blissfully goes along as the nation shakes and worries. the difference today is where literally president would take a bite of a hot dog and people

would be upset, how dare you eat that hot dog when you need to be in the situation room. >> i covered the first term of the bush white house as a white house reporter and i've lost many months of my life that i'm never going to get back being down in waco, texas, waiting for something to happen, eating a blue bonnet ice cream, whatever it was and lots of barbecue, we lots of pieces why is he clearing brush opposed to being in washington. >> i respectfully disagree in the sense i think this is a washington hangup and immediaty hang-up. but the fact you have so many two-term presidents taking vacation, perhaps the public can understand and handle the fact the president is doing work wherever he or she goes. >> maybe they can handle it. but this president has a very low rafrpging particularly on foreign policy right now and low

ebb in popularity in his presidency generally. >> would the numbers be higher if he made all of these speeches about reengaging iraq from the white house? i doubt it. >> it certainly doesn't help. >> may not make a darn difference. i feel like -- it may not make a difference. >> dana, you've been -- >> might not make a difference. >> you've been in the game long enough to know that these narratives repeat over and over and over. i'm reading pearlstine's book about reagan and they took about nixon as king, these narrative as the president. they go over and over. >> maybe it is just the noise but my point is why give that to his critics and give ted cruz that line about the golf game. if there's nothing wrong with taking the break, just do it out

of sight or be out there on the basketball court as opposed to being photographed out -- >> dana, if it wasn't this, it would be something else but we'll continue this debate for the next couple of years. >> maybe not. >> we love you, dana. >> back to breaking news of the hour in ferguson. the owner of the store where the robbery is believed to have taken place will come out and make a statement at the top of the hour. keep it on msnbc we'll have those remarks as soon as they happen. we'll be back with a final word right after this. she needed a good meal and a good family. so we gave her purina cat chow complete. it's great because it has the four cornerstones of nutrition. everything a cat needs for the first step to a healthy, happy life. purina cat chow complete. share your rescue story and join us in building better lives. one rescue at a time.

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our coverage from ferguson picks up with alex wagner and "now." police release new images from ferguson but are they the ones that matter? it is friday, august 15th. and this is "now." >> this is not a black and white issue. >> no justice! no peace! >> the focal point here remains figure out how and why michael brown was killed. >> we have this full report they passed out. >> including surveillance video that they say shows -- >> a man who the police alleges is michael brown seems to be a confrontation with someone who may be a store employee. >> the officer that was involved in the shooting of michael