re than four hours. if you have any sudden decrease or loss in hearing or vision, or any allergic reactions like rash, hives, swelling of the lips, tongue or throat, or difficulty breathing or swallowing, stop taking cialis and get medical help right away. ask your doctor about cialis for daily use and a free 30-tablet trial. good morning. i'm jose diaz-balart. ferguson, missoouri the first day of school has been postponed again. the governor early this morning signing an executive order to send to the national guard to keep the peace. and a news conference is expected this hour with the family of michael brown and independent forensic pathologist hired by the fame to conduct what is the second autopsy on michael brown. this autopsy released this morning. showing michael brown shot at least six times including twice in the head, four in the right arm.

all into brown's front. this follows what some are calling the most intense night in violence yet. starting well before the midnight curfew. at 8:25 the first reports of gunfire rang in. then at 8:56 p.m. hundreds tried to attack the police command center forcing police to respond with tear gas and at 9:20 p.m. the local mcdonalds became under siege. ron johnson early this morning calling the violence premeditated. >> will not sit with disobedience. >> not losing sight of the tragedy that sparked the violence, the shooting death of michael brown.

>> justice. >> what is justice to you? arresting this man and making him accountable for his actions. >> the president returning to the white house from his vacation early. he'll meet later today with attorney general eric holder. we begin our coverage on the ground in ferguson, missouri. at the white house. let's start on the ground with the huffington post. put last night into context since you arrived in ferguson >>well, at first there was a party-like atmosphere. there were people marching down the street remembering michael brown. there are also a lot of people out who seem to be rebelling in the atmosphere. all that changed pretty quickly. we were standing here on west floorson which is where the protests have been taking place.

we su a lot of people running and people said there's tear gas. get away! and it started what was basic life the police going down the street all night long tear gas and trying to clear the street. >> you took some pretty candid shots of kids being tear gassed and detained. these are kids that should be going back to school today, but they're not. how many kids are in the thick of these protests and is there a sense when they'll be able to reopen the schools? >> well, there are a lot of kids there last night. in many ways it was a family affair. there have been kids out here holding signs saying, you know, justice for mike brown. a lot of parents said they wanted to bring their kids out here to see this civil disobedience. to see a protest. a lot of parents told me they think didn't think it was going to get rowdy. they thought the missouri highway patrol had it undercontrol. they were pretty shocked. the mother of the 8-year-old who was tear gassed was upset.

she said i shouldn't have brought him out here. he was struggling. and so i think there have been a lot of children caught up in this. and like you mentioned, they're not going to be able to go back to school this week. >> you also attended a rally for officer darren wilson. the image of the police officer who killed michael brown. >> i tried to go to the protest. but the traffic was so bad. there were hundreds if not thousands of people there. the crowd couldn't fit in the venue, the greater grace church. so people were out in the parking lot in the rain trying to listen to speakers. there was radio station. so we actually had to go back and watch it from our hotel room. we got there so late and it was crowded. it shows how much interest is there is in the community. the protests aren't letting up, and the rally, i think which is a lot more peaceful. everyone is coming out to the stuff. >> amanda, i want to be clear. what i was referring to is the

protest for daryl wilson, the police officer. that was also held over the weekend. >> yes. that was held yesterday in downtown st. louis. a few dozen people came out to show support for the officer. it was pretty much an overwhelmingly white audience. i think there was one african-american man. they wanted to show there are two sides of the story. they're concerned about officer darren wilson and his family. they think that basically the media portrayal has been biassed. if we don't do anything wrong the cops won't go after you. that side of the story should be told. >> thank you for being with us. now from the white house traveling back to washington from martha's vineyard this morning is kristen welker. the first question, what should we expect out the president's meeting later today with attorney general eric holder? >> good morning. the attorney general has been consistently updating president

obama on the situation in ferguson. this is going to be another one of those updates. as you know, the justice department started the own independent investigation. i anticipate that attorney general holder will be updating president obama on this status of that investigation. other the weekend, of course, he ordered an independent autopsy to be conducted by federal officials, which underscores we're seeing the lack of confidence in the way that officials on the ground in ferguson are handling michael brown's case. the attorney general saying he decided to do so at the request of the brown family and the extraordinary circumstances involved in the case. the attorney general expressed deep concerns about the way it's being handled. that bubbled over last week. on thursday he reportedly told his deputies, i believe we have a graphic of the quote, jose. quote, tell them to remove the damn tanks. so incredibly frustrated by the

militarization we've been seeing on the ground in ferguson. he, of course, reached out to local and state officials and called for them to deescalate, to demilitarize their response to the protesters. that's something we heard in president obama's remarks when he addressed the nation from martha's vineyard last week. he called for calm on the streets. he said now is a time for healing. he talked about the excessive police response to the protesters. there's deep concern in the white house to the response they're seeing in ferguson and particularly to the developments overnight. that will clearly be a large part of the discussion that president obama has with the attorney general as well. that conversation will take place this afternoon and the question is what level of information will we get about the conversation? i anticipate we'll get some type of a readout. no plans for president obama to speak publicly. >> and what about missouri governor jay nixon sending in the national guard? the white house has been in touch with him throughout the last week.

any response for the white house for that decision? >> senior adviser valerie jarret spoke with jay nixon's office this morning about the decision. apparently the white house wasn't informed beforehand. so they learned about it after the fact. the white house believes that the main mission there of the national guard is to secure the command post with the law enforcement officials there. the response from the white house is, look, if it helps to bring some measure of calm then it's a good thing. that's the ultimate goal here. but, of course, there are deep concerns about deescalation. valerie has been in contact with the civil rights leaders who have been on the ground who are urging calm, who are urging peaceful protests there. the civil rights leaders on the ground reportedly saying the vast majority of those

protesting are doing so in a peaceful way. there are only a few people who are creating problems. so that's really the concern. president obama getting some criticism. calling for a stronger response from the administration from the president. of course, president obama did speak out about it last week, i'm hold that he wants to be careful before coming to the podium about it. he wants his words to have some impact. it's obviously a situation that inflamed his goal in speaking out last week was to try to deis collate the tensions on the ground. it he thinks there's a way for him to help do that, we might see him again at some point. whether it be today or some time later on this week. he wants to be careful, i'm told, before inserting his voice into the conversation. jose? >> kristen, it's odd to me, maybe i'm wrong, but it's odd to me if they're in constant contact with the governor, governor nixon he wouldn't tell them he's about to make a decision that is going to one way or another affect the

balance in that area by bringing out the national guard. >> right. and it's a great point. it is possible he alerted other parts of the administration. but the white house said they weren't informed beforehand. that was a decision that he made unilaterally and then informed the white house after the fact. jose? >> kristen welker. thank you. the back to the community we continue it await a news conference from the family, which we'll bring you live. we're seeing the first shots from the news conference. you see it the preparation underaway. the thousand people gathered if a local church on sunday to remember michael brown in stark contrast to the violence we saw later night. including ron jansohnson who ha been the center of the response. >> i want start off by talking to mike brown's family. i want to know my heard goes out

to you. and i say that i'm sorry. i wear this uniform and i should stand up here and say that i'm sorry. >> powerful words. joining me now is the president of the st. louis louis reed. thank you for being with us. talk about the violence last night. you were at the memorial and out last night. how do we go from a peaceful church gathering to that? >> well, i think one thing that is important to note that the overwhelming majority of the demonstrations that happened during the day yesterday and the days prior were peaceful protests. because, you know, they started at 5:00 or 6:00 in the morning and went until 10:00 at night before there was any mass confusion, which is what we saw last night. and it seems to sparked off when

the police officers come in contact with some of the people that are there, some of young folks that are there that are not there to protest. i think we need to make sure we keep it in context. we also, you know, in moving forward to get to where we're having, you know, more peaceful protests throughout the length of the trial and everything, we're going have more adults involved, you know, after 8:00 at night. i think it's going to a big difference. we're going to have to work to create communications between the police department and some of the young people so we can build some trust between the two. and i think that will go a long way, also. >> i think it's important to separate what you're saying. the fact that the overwhelming majority of the people that are protesting peacefully and expressing their voicing and there are some who aren't there for that.

as you eloquently said it. michael brown's mother called for justice this morning for officer dairrren wilson to be hd accountable. do you think it would mitigate the violence if there are some people not there for michael brown's justice? >> yes. we have to commend the parents. the parents, time and time again, said they do not support looting or the violence. they don't support any of that. they asked and said they want their son's name to be memorialized in the correct fashion. that is not the way to honor their son's name through the violent acts we've seen on the streets in the final hours of some of the days we've had protesters out. >> and do you have a reaction to the governor sending in the national guard as a consequence or reaction to this? he didn't even tell the white house he was going to do that. >> i think the governor probably

made that decision based on conversations with ron johnson. i don't want to second guess that. i know, on our hand as community leaders, what we need to do individually and collectively is to be there. i think it's important for us to do everything we can do to bridge that gap between the teens and young people that are out on the streets and law enforcement. that's going go a long way. it's not just going to help us get through this downturn but help us get through, you know, going to help us build strong relations for the future of our law enforcement and our community. >> thank you so much for being with us this morning. coming up as we await a news conference on the privacy autopsy on michael brown. we'll talk to a well-known forensic pathology what the results will tell us.

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this is a live picture from st. louis. we're expecting a news conference for the family of michael brown, his attorney, and a forensic expert hired to conduct an autopsy. we'll bring it to you live. a grand jury could begin reviewing evidence in the michael brown shooting this week to decide if there's enough to indict darren wilson in the case. st. louis county prosecuting attorney said the process will be ongoing rather than waiting until all the evidence has been collected. in an interview yesterday, he explained the jury will take care of preliminary things like

subpoenas early in the process. >> i expect it will go on, you know, probably until the end of september. we want to do it as e expeditiously as possible but not quickly. we want to be thur roy. >> the department of justice opened a separate civil rights investigation yesterday. attorney general eric holder ordered a federal autopsy to be conduct order the 18-year-old bringing the total to 3 so far. and 40 fbi agents are on the ground gathering information. i want to bring in federal prosecutor and pathologist. >> i want to bring in the issue of tug of war that could be happening when you have so many different areas, federal, state, local being in an investigation. >> it can create risks of

different witnesses responses to different investigators. a lot of issues. you're hope you're working as partners rather than competitors with a separate agenda. is a lot up to the feds. do they respect the different tasks each authority has or said we're the feds we're in charge here. >> how would it change things. the federal government super seeds it all, doesn't it? >> they have the right to impose their laws. if they come in as the 800-pound gorilla pushing the state and locals around. it's going create resentment and add to an already polarizing community. >> if you have local officials some would say acted in a suspect manner. they don't release the information until a week later. they release the video of brown that had nothing to do with the incident. it seems as though maybe a federal government superseeding that may help to calm the fears

of no justice. >> the feds have a very important role here. this is exactly the kind of case where they can come into community and be a positive force. they're not involved with local politics. they don't care what the local police think. they want to see if a violence of federal law occurred. they have plenty of jurisdiction to exam that. >> let's talk about the result of the family's autopsy of michael brown, the focus of the press conference we'll be seeing in moments here. let's see a diagnose of it. according to the new york times brown was shot at least six times in in the head and arm. what does it tell us about possibly michael brown was killed. >> first of all, while the fends have power and jurisdiction, it's regrettable there's a third autopsy. there's no reason in the world why the feds shouldn't have

worked it out for the pathologists to be there with the private pathologist. it was done with robert f kennedy. they're there and participate. it should have been worked out. it's most regrettable. it's going to lead to more confusion about the whole thing. what we've been told thus far at least six shots. it's interesting to think of the phase at least. the point there are entrances and possible exits with reentrances. the pathologist is not absolutely certain. number two, you've got two shots in the head. of a 6'3" guy. i don't know offer wilson's height, unless he's 6'8" he was not towering over him.

maybe brown was bent over or charging. maybe he was a charging bull and going after the police officer standing there with the gun. i find it unlikely. more likely michael brown was falling to the ground and the shooting continued. striking him on the top of the head. another shot hit him around the right eye and excited around the jaw and reentered around the clavicle. the y with regard to the four shots on the arm, which have been characterized as a shot from the front. keep in mind, just look at my arm. look. look at my arm. when you have the autopsy person in front of you, or the photographs, we do what we call an evaluation in the anatomic position. palms up body facing you. when your running your arms could be like this flapping back

ward. a shot that hits from the rear enters in the arm and now the body on the table and the arm comes into this position supine, and you have the bullet wounds here. you have to be careful in characterizing these as shots from the front. so these are, my observations, at this time, the other important one is no stipling, which is think of a black pen coming down on white paper. those are the burning pigments from the gun powdered producing those superficial. that wasn't found. there was ab article of clothing. i don't know if it was a t-shirt. i doubt it was heavy. most likely if the shots were fired at close range it gets gun powdered residue. clothing has to be examined. right now it would appear that from a handgun, these shots were fired from a distance beyond 18

to 24 inches. you don't get carbon pigme mmen beyond 24 inches. that's important, too. we don't know anything about the car. has it been tested for gun powdered residue. there's a lot of things to be learned. >> and, ken, what will take for the doj to completely take over the investigation and the doctor has some extraordinarily fascinating analysis what so far we're seeing. we're getting more information at this press conference you're seeing on your screen. it should be starting any minute. should the doj be taking complete control even after the doctor was saying. there seems to be an issue of why didn't they join the second autopsy? >> the doj isn't going to tell the locals and the state authorities to go away. that's going to take cooperation and an agreement by the state and locals to let the feds take the thing over.

if it were to happen, the spoken reason has have more financial and human resources. sometimes there's an unspoken republican. it's too hot to handle politically at the local level. we're not mad that the feds are taking it off our hands. >> what is process. how long could it be before we get more information. we're coming up on droits and days and weeks and stills there seems to be no real information. it's coming out drip by drip. >> the feds are tight-lipped. they are been louder than usual. state and locals you tend to get information. i think we're going continue to get it in small pieces. don't be surprised if it mostly comes from the state and local side. >> thank you so much for being with us this morning. and just ahead. the family of michael brown expect hold it a news conference minutes from now. you're seeing a podium. we'll take a look at the emotional service held in support of the brown family in ferguson yesterday.

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here is a live look in st. louis, missouri, at any moment we're expected to hear from the family of michael brown and their attorney. they're expected to talk about the preliminary autopsy, it's a private autopsy conduct bit doctor, as we mentioned. the report founded unarmed black teen who was shot at least six times including twiced in the head. we'll take you to the news conference as soon as it begins.

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news conference with michael brown's family, the family attorney, and the forensic pathologist hired to conduct a second autopsy. a third autopsy conducted by the justice department will come next. and i want to bring in former prosecutor. and, you know, we were talking a few minutes ago about the difficulties of carrying out an investigation like this with so many different responsibilities of local, state, federal government getting involved. is there anything that we should know about how these three areas are going to be sifted down to make things work in a more stream lined fashion. it seems like they have to compete against each other there's going to be a lot of information that is lost. >> it would be helpful if the authorities would have a joint press conference and tell us how they're cooperating. they can certainly stumble over each other. for example, if they do different interview was particularly important witness and the witnesses say something

a little bit different in each interview. it doesn't help get to the 0 bottom of the truth. it adds to the complications if cases go to trial and witnesses are on record saying different things. what there are competing differences of opinions in the autopsy reports. that's not going to make getting to the truth any easier in terms of community opinions and job of sorting it out maybe at the trial. what happens with a good defense lawyer when he gets a couple of different opinions and autopsy reports. they can absolutely run to the goalline with that. this needs to be coordinated and there needs to be true partnership, not competitors, i think they could help the public and all of us how they're coordinating their role. >> have a joint ex-cconference o that. >> correct. from a public standpoint, let's understand how you're coordinating it so we don't end

up, for example, jose with an outcome with the feds said there should be charges and the state said there shouldn't. >> what happens if that happens? >> each side has a right to bring the charges. what does it do a community that is torn apart if there seem to be two different completely different views of what happened here. >> let's talk about that community. i want to go to ferguson and straight to msnbc.com reporter who has been following the events there. tremaine, the family's private autopsy suggested the bullets were fired into the front. we heard the doctor said maybe they didn't have to be all from the front maybe if he was running it would be different. how are people responding to the autopsy information this morning? >> people are responding in various ways. i spoke to a woman about 15 minutes ago and she was describing to another person what the autopsy revealed. a shot to the top of the head,

one in the eye, and arm shot and they said it's overkill. folks don't know what to make of what. they're glad to have a lunlt of it but they feel like it's overkill. in term of the early narrative, it's unclear how much it contradicts police. we don't know how many times if the officer fired his gun. he could have missed. we don't know. who knows. folks are glad to have a lufblt information. it's almost fuelling the fire they feel that something here doesn't smell right. doesn't pass the smell test. >> it's fascinating the only bit of information we're getting is from the family. it seems like that public officials have a responsibility to let information out that could be helpful for all of us to understand how the information is being carried out. how the investigation has been carried out. it doesn't come from the governmen

government. >> i don't want to call it a misstep on the part of the government. we've seen on other cases the longer they wait to release the information people are filling in the information. this could be part strategy get in front of what law enforcement is going to release. we know there a number of autopsies being planned. you have the families, the federal government seeking to have an autopsy of their own. i think the family is getting out in front of this. they now the people supporting them are hungry for information and -- >> tremaine, i'm going to interrupt you. the news conference is starting now. >> there is no -- i don't think that -- is there a mic here. is there a mic here? you can't hear?

just hold on a moment. turn it on, son. we'll have one on in a minute. >> now the news conference is just getting started. the technical issues -- >> tommy pettersson, the pastor of the church here and state representative of the 66th district in north county. we welcome you here today and we thank you for coming, and now we're going get down to the business at hand. we're going to introduce now attorney crunk. >> thank you so much, pastor, for allowing us to have this press conference.

this important press conference here in your church. i'm attorney benjamin. i have the honor of serving as the lead counsel along with co-counsel anthony gray, darrell parks on behalf of the family of michael brown, jr. we also have present with us one of the highly respected, one of the most renowned forensic pathologists. dr. michael who we retained to be the family's pathologist to conduct the independent autopsy on their behalf. with him, who assisted him is professor sean parcels. they'll be addressing you momentarily.

the brown family wanted to have this autopsy performed on their behalf because they did not know whether whether the federal officials were going to conduct their own independent autopsy. they did not want to be left having to rely on the autopsy done by the st. louis law enforcement agencies, the same individuals they feel are responsible for executing their son in broad daylight. so, therefore, that is why they begged and plead eed to have an independent autopsy done. the attorneys here, we know all too well, if you don't have your own autopsy and you have to depend completely on the police department autopsy, that's not a good thing.

but even our clients understood that wasn't a good thing. they could not trust what was going to be put into reports about the tragic execution of their child. secondly, i want to stress very clearly that this is only a preliminary report. very preliminary. professor parcels will get to elaborate answering basic questions. the number of shots, which was always questioned not only the family, the citizens of ferguson, but people all over the country who have this curiosity wanted to know. that question was answered partly as opined and stated in

the interview that was released that it could have been answered on day one if you were really trying to have transparency be the objective. but what we know now from professor parcels are preliminary autopsy is at least six, at least six shots could be more, but at least six. they'll have to conifer with the other medical examiners who did the first autopsy. and dr. badden will explain why it's important doing thounsdss and thousands of autopsies as he explains. you want all the information you can get. this only tells part of the story. also, the clothes have to be recovered that were talk about

whether there's any residue on them and so forth. he explains, as only he can explain, you know, you want to talk about what was recovered in the x-raies. and most importantingly, the witness accounts. the eye witness accounts, which is so very important and bringing the fuller story together. what does the preliminary autopsy tell us? it verifies that the witness accounts were true. that he was shot multiple times and is going to be one of those things that we have to get all the witness statements out and look at all the autopsies, all the evidence that put the picture together that his family knows that the witnesses when they were telling them about him being shot multiple times in broad daylight was accurate.

and you all have reported an many witness accounts when they said his hand was up that is in there. when they talk about the way it happened is in there. we have to go from this point with the preliminary autopsy and try to get all the information so we can get the answers that not only the family wants but ferguson wants and the country wants. his mother and father and their family, they had just a few questions for dr. baden, and that is -- the first question was, how many times was he shot? and so that question was answered, at least initially.

as dr. baden met with the mother, she had the question as any mother will have, was my child in pain? and dr. baden shared with her, in his opinion, he did not suffer. and then lastly, his mother wanted to ask the question that dr. baden nor any of the lawyers could answer. what else do we need to get them to arrest the killer of my child? [ applause ] at this time, we'll have attorney daryl parks address you

and attorney gray will address you and we'll have dr. baden and professor parcels come and try to give all of us a little lesson on pathology. thank you. attorney parks. >> thank you. >> in a situation like this, facts become very important, evidence becomes very important, and it's so important that the facts in this case really get out. this case suffered from a lack of transparency -- actually -- i'm going to hold them up. and you heard the attorney say there was multiple shots. two shots that i want to focus on for my purpose here today. they become important because they show that the direction of the bullet was in a back to front direction. the first one is what we will call the kill shot and the one that attorney crumb was speaking

of he wouldn't have suffered from at the apex there's a severe and clear entry at the apex, the very top that went from a back to front position. also, the second shot to the head that you heard him speak about. it's a dot on the diagram by the hairline. that bullet went in there and came out near the eye area. that's very important. because it shows a back to front for both of those. it supports what the witnesses said by him trying to surrender to the officer. and his head was in a downward position. it had to be for what happened. those type of facts are clear. we believe that give those kind of facts this officer should have been arrested. those things speak for themselves. why would he be shot in the very

top of his head? 6'4" man. it makes no sense. and so that's what we have. that's why we believe that those two things alone are ample evidence for the officer to be arreste arrested. >> good morning, everyone. >> good morning. >> i want to continue the call and plea for those that are reporting, for those that are investigating this case, to remain fair, to remain balanced, and to look at this case for what it is. i can see there is a very disturbing divide that is developing in our community, and this is not what we initially came to the community to call for. our call was fairness, it was

for transparency. we had to have the aupts so we could have information at the finger tips so that we could explain to those that called me. i have not spoken to anybody about what i knew personally. this is this opportunity to get this information out. one thing i will address from the factual standpoint, i saw a news report this morning, and one of the -- i'm not sure if he was an officer or not. one person reported that the events last night may have been spurred by a trigger by the release of this autopsy. let me just tell you for a fact that this autopsy came out two hours later after the law enforcement decisions -- authorities made a decision to converge on that crime. if they want to make a connection between the release of this information and what happened last night, that connection is misplaced.

thank you so much. >> now we will call dr. michael baden and professor sean parcels to discuss their preliminary autopsy findings. sorry. >> thank you. we are here as forensic scientists. we're looking for information that is from the autopsy and other scientific studies that will allow us to eventually reach final conclusions. but the question that is asked to me most commonly in these types of situations when somebody dies after an encounter with police, anywhere in this country, in other countries, too, when it's predictable there

may be community concerns and that the parents of the decedent doesn't trust the government, and they request a second autopsy. independent autopsy. this is not uncommon. the third is very uncommon. that's going to happen today or tomorrow with the federal government, i understand. and the reason for it, as indicated, when there isn't transparency. i was chief medical examiner for new york city for 25 years. we a number of these encounters. what we found in new york city was that the sooner the information goes out, the sooner the family is talked to. the family has a right to know

how their loved one died. this calms community and family concerns over a cover-up or not getting told the truth. simple things are found on day one of the autopsy. as you know with other sudden deaths and gunshot wounds and stab wounds. the next day the autopsy results come out and answers these kinds of questions. how many bullet wounds, and most important, did my loved one suffer. pain and suffering is concern. we can answer those questions on day one on the basis of the injury such as when there's a damage to the brain, bullet wound to the brain. that causes immediate loss muof consciousness at that point. telling that to a family can te