and false representations and lies are being told about those people in the community. we need to be honest, have sensitivity with law enforcement and not rule over our people with an iron fist as if we are not all human. when you're looking down the scope of a gun, shooting people, not having any compassion. we cannot go that way. if it continues to go that way, people will continue to be insighted. we have to those types of collective conversations, be honest with one another and respect one another if we truly want to move forward with justice and equality. >> community activist paul muhamammad, antonio french. that's it for this edition of qul autoin." we'll be live from ferguson at 11:00 p.m. eastern. the "rachel maddow show" begins right now. good evening, chris, amazing work. well cone. thanks to you at home for joining us tonight. there's a lot going on in the world right now from iraq, to ukraine, governor perry got his arraignment date today for when he gets his mugshot taken. we've got two new u.s. senate

candidates this weekend and may get two more new ones tomorrow. we're going to get to all of that in this hour tonight. but we start, of course, in ferguson, missouri. president obama commented on the situation in ferguson this afternoon. president back at the white house for one day in the middle of his massachusetts vacation which is otherwise already in progress. the president came back to the white house last night. he spoke from the white house briefing room this afternoon. and he announced that attorney general eric holder is going to be personally going to ferguson, missouri, on wednesday. the attorney general will be meeting with u.s. -- the u.s. attorney's office there and with justice department prosecutors from the civil rights division who are already there in missouri as well. he'll also be meeting with some of the fbi agents who have been sent into that community to carry out the federal investigation into the michael brown shooting. more than 40 fbi agents are already on the ground in ferguson, missouri. apparently they're doing door-to-door canvassing of the neighborhood in which the shooting happened. looking for eyewitnesss and

other information about what happened last saturday when that young man was killed by a ferguson police officer. attorney general holder r eer rd a statement tonight about his plans to go to ferguson. i have to say, the statement was very blunt in its criticism of local officials for how they have dealt with some of this so far. "the selective release of sensitive information that we have seen in this case so far is troubling to me. no matter how others pursue their own separate inquiries, the justicede apartment is resolved to preserve the integrity of its investigation. this is a critical step of restoring trust between law enforcement and community, not just in ferguson, but beyond." troubling selective release of sensitive information. at the same time we got that public statement from the attorney general criticizing local authorities for selectively releasing sensitive information, we also got a quote to "the new york times" from an anonymous federal law enforcement official also

criticizing local officials. specifically criticizing the local police department in ferguson, missouri, for their decision last week to release images and surveillance camera footage and an 18 page incident report from a convenience store apparent robbery. in which police said that michael brown was implicated. several hours after local police released that information, they admitted that there was no indication that the convenience store incident had anything whatsoever to do with police stopping mike brown on the street and ultimately shooting him, but nevertheless, they put that stuff out there. without warning, a local police department decided they'd release that information about the convenience store. they released it on friday. presumably in the hopes of making the shooting victim look like a bad guy. this unnamed federal law enforcement official tells "the new york times" that the justice department specifically asked the ferguson police department to not release that footage from the convenience store. when the ferguson police department released that video

on friday, it, quote, occurred over the objection of federal authorities. so, the justice department told the local police, don't release that footage. it's not relevant. just going to throw gas on the pla flames on this town which is already on fire. don't release it. local police released it, anyway. over the weekend, the justice department tells "the new york times," we told them not to release it and they did it, anyway. now, today, it has happened again or at least a different version of it. today, two unnamed sources who are, quote, familiar with the official county autopsy of michael brown, tell the "washington post" that when 18-year-old mike brown was shot by police in ferguson, he, "had marijuana in his system." and, again, there's no immediately obvious reason why this would be relevant to the question of why a police officer shot this young man. it does, however, go some distance toward trying to make the victim in that shooting seem bad.

and, again, this selective release of information presumably comes from local authorities. this time, anonymously. unnamed sources who are familiar with the official county autopsy of michael brown. so they released the incident report on the convenience store robbery and the surveillance camera footage and some particularly damning still images from that convenience store incident. and they released the full unredacted 18-page police incident report from that robbery. they don't release any incident report on the shooting. and now with the autopsy, somebody has leaked the fact that there allegedly was marijuana in this kid's system. they can release that but can't release any information about, say, how many times he was shot. after the county did its own autopsy from where we are apparently getting the marijuana leak, the family made arrangements to have their own hired experts do another autopsy. the results of that private autopsy were released formally this morning at this press conference, but the bottom-line

conclusion of that autopsy that mike brown was reportedly shot six times, that information was first posted online by "the new york times" at about 11:00 p.m. eastern, 10:00 local time last night. and that was around the time that last night's protests on the trstreets of ferguson turne into the worst night of clashes yet in terms of violence and what police described as the threat level on the streets. last night was the third straight night on police shooting tear fwgas canisters. last night there were multiple guns on the scene and multiple shots fired including multiple shots fired at police. the one night that's been relatively peaceful thus far, rowdy and loud but peaceful in ferguson, suince the shooting o michael brown, one night not marked by violence or massive militarized police presence was thursday night. that was the first night that missouri highway patrol under captain ronald johnson was put in charge of policing the

protests. thursday night was the night that police pulled back from -- pulled back to the perimeter. they got out of their s.w.a.t. gear and armored vehicles. senior police officials marched with protesters that night. there was not a single road block, not a single arrest, not a single tear gas canister fired. that was thursday. friday, the local police released that convenience store footage and friday night and every night since then, it's been back to a much, much scarier scene after dark. saturday, that state police captain, ron johnson, and governor jay nixon stood together to announce ferguson was being put under a state of emergency, a curfew was being imposed. this was saturday after a bad night on friday night. and a sign that imposing that curfew, state of emergency was not going to dial things down, that was pretty immediate right then and there at the press conference when they were announcing it. >> are you going to do tear gas again? are you bringing back military

force? how are you planning to enforce this curfew? [ inaudible ] >> the best way for any -- >> captain johnson? >> we'll hear from him. we'll hear from him. [ inaudible ] t . >> the best way for us to get peace is for everybody to help to make sure that everybody gets home safe tonight at 12:00 and gets a good solid five hours' sleep before they get up tomorrow morning and that we're going to -- the captain -- >> sleep is not an option, governor nixon. we want justice. >> why is the focus on skecurit and not getting justice? >> if mike brown had shot a cup, he'd be in jail. we want justice!

>> why was the police officer -- >> if we want justice -- for those that -- [ inaudible ] i'll let you -- just a second. i'll let you yell at me next. if we want -- >> one question at a time, please. >> all right, bro. >> if we want justice, we cannot be distracted. we must be focused on making sure that people are allowed their first amendment rights, but we do so in a peaceful fashion. we cannot have looting and crimes at night. we can't have people fearful -- >> we can't have police officers killing people. >> that was saturday afternoon. announcing state of emergency and a curfew from midnight to 5:00 a.m., after a bad night of violence on friday night, they announced that state of emergency and curfew on saturday. on saturday night, this is what it looked like as they tried to enforce that curfew. again, there are lots of

peaceful protests. lots of peaceful protesters. lots of actually civil disobedience. but then also violence and a police stance that did look more military than anything else. that was saturday night. that was the first night of the curfew. then this was sunday night. this was last night. second night of the curfew. again, last night considered to be probably the worst night that has happened thus far. at around 1:15 in the morning, so early this morning, really late last night, 1 1:15 a.m. local time, in the middle of a terrible night during which a dozen people were injured, police say multiple shots were fired, at one point the employees of a local mcdonald's barricaded themselves inside their store in the storage room because they feared for their own safety as people overran the restaurant. after that very difficult night last night, at about a quarter after 1:00 in the morning, captain ron johnson gave this press conference in which he summarized over what happened in the course of the night and police had to take additional

security measures to try to restore order. >> chief sam dobson of the st. louis city police department and i have been in discussion with governor jay nixon and a colonel who were at the highway patrol headquarters in jefferson city. we are planning additional steps to quiet the violence. we are all determined to restore peace and safety to the people of ferguson, and i believe the continued resolve of a good people of this community will ultimately triumph over the few people bent on violence and destruction. have time to take a few questions before i return to operational planning. >> how many people have been injured? how many people -- >> we had at least, i believe at least three people. we had a couple shooting victims. so i think two or three people have been injured. >> any officers injured? >> were those random shootings or were they --

>> yes we were responding to those shootings. those shootings had nothing to do with law enforcement. it was between people that were actually out on the scene there. >> they weren't domestic shootings? >> no, they were people out on florissant. >> officers injured? >> there were no officers injured. >> so you mentioned additional steps. can you tell us what additional steps -- >> we are going to go back and do some operational planning to determine what that will be. >> does that mean you're calling the national guard in? >> no. at this point, we're taking additional steps and we will evaluate our resources. >> so, you can see the exhaustion there, and the frustration. that was 1:15 a.m. local time this morning. captain johnson saying, yes, more needs to be done by police to keep order on the streets. we're going to do additional operational planning. we need to step this up somehow, this is not safe enough. he said explicitly this will not

involve the national guard. that was 1:15 a.m. at 2:00 a.m., governor jay nixon of missouri announced that he was, in fact, calling out the national guard. governor explaining in a statement today that they would not be imposing the curfew for the third night tonight, but the national guard would be called out. the national guard would be deployed specifically to protect the facility that the police are using as their operational headquarters on the scene. so, in this evolving, frustrating, ever-changing, chaotic, sometimes self-contradictory array of tactics by laurw enforcement you've had just since we were last on the air talking about this, you've had the curfew declared, an announcement they would not use tear gas to enforce the curfew, then they did use tear gas. then they said it would not do more but would not include the national guard. now it does include the national guard but they are not doing the curfew. something new today during daylight hours today in fergusons as chris hayes has been reporting, police informing people out on the street in what has become the protest zone that they would not be allowed to protest while standing still.

there would be no congregating allowed. people were told by police today on the street that they would not -- police would not be allowing any static protests. meaning protests in which people hold still. that restriction was not a crimp on the style of this protest march today. a march from st. louis' keener plaza to the state office building a few blocks away where protesters demanded to be let into the building to meet with state officials. the protesters were not let into that state office building. they ended up sitting down at the entrance, some of them, and there were eight arrests at this protest march today in st. louis, including a 90-year-old holocaust survivor, a woman named heddie epstein. we learned hours ago from photographer for "getty" images, who's taken the most iconic images of the protest movement thus far, he was arrested in ferguson at the end of the day today. he's been on assignment in ferguson. captured some of the images that have been most widely

distributed of all including this one from last night. here's mr. olson explaining in an instagram video why he was arrested as he was being arrested. >> i'm being arrested -- >> keep moving. >> he said the media is required to be in a certain area. >> so that is the chaotic process by which we got to where we are right now. the president addressing the situation directly from the white house today. the attorney general due to arrive the day after tomorrow. yet more selective leaking designed to make mike brown look bad. apparently from local authorities. a day of evolving standards on protests and policing. no apparent diminishment in anger or people's willingness to demonstrate their anger. and right now, it is 81 degrees and not raining in ferguson, missouri. this is the scene right now in downtown ferguson. where things are definitely still in motion. no curfew is being imposed, but nobody quite knows what's going to happen tonight. joining us now, charlie dooley, county executive for st. louis

county, missouri. he's asked the missouri general to remove the county prosecuting attorney from the investigation into the shooting death of michael brown. mr. doole whery, thank you for time tonight. thanks for being with us. >> thanks for having me, rachel. >> let me ask you, first, about the decision to call out the national guard. the decision by the governor to suspend the curfew that was at least nominally in effect on saturday night and sunday night. what's your opinion about the current standards by which these protests are being policed? >> well, again, the national forward is supposed to securing the command center. that's all they're doing. they'll free up the police officers to be in the street to help keep peace and make sure the protesters assemble in a peaceful manner? . >> in terms of the curfew and different styles of policing we've seen over the past few nights, obviously thursday night seems to have been the high water mark in terms of people peacefully protesting without

too much disruption and certainly without violence. are you hopeful that the community can get back to that sort of a state, or do you think this is going to be a tenser, more difficult confrontation, essentially going forward? >> i'm hopeful that we'll get back to some kind of normalcy. i understand the curfew had some issue with that. it did not do what we wanted it to do. the thing the governor indicated he would drop the curfew and work with that and bring in the national guard to secure the command center, to free up policemen to be out there where the protesters are going, to make sure that they're safe but also to make sure that those that are disturbing the community, the bad element, that they are arrested and pursued. >> why have you asked that the county prosecutes attorney, bob mccullah either recuse himself or be removed from the investigation? why do you think he's not the appropriate prosecutor to look

into this shooting? >> well, his past has been suspect to the african-american community, quite frankly. there's been a tyrone thompson, about four years ago. there's no conclusion to that situation. there's an antonette green. that situation. the things he's said about the governor about this incident, some of the leakage, some of the video leakage, all of those things are suspect. i believe that the african-american community have said they have no confidence in the prosecuting attorney, prosecuting this case. if that's what they feel, he's a part of the problem, not part of the solution. >> the federal resources brought to bear, president obama announced today eric holder is coming to ferguson on wednesday. the justice department already opened its own investigation. fbi agents are on the ground

canvassing for an independent investigation. do you feel like federal authorities coming into this is essentially a better direction or something that can exist alongside an appropriate local investigation? >> i think this is the right thing to do. again, there's a strained relationship between the authorities at this point in time. if that's not going to get the job done, we need to do something different. i applaud the president and eric holder. send in more fbi agents in there to do the criminal investigation. that is an objective. they're an outside party. it gives it validity. it gives it a commitment of transparency. which we have not had at this point. >> charlie dooley, county executive, st. louis county, missouri. i know this is a very busy time for you, sir. thanks for talking with us. i appreciate it. >> thank you. >> all right. we've got lots more ahead, from ferguson, and elsewhere. including a steep escalation of the federal government's involvement in this case which president obama outlined today. we're also going to be speaking

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these are live images from downtown ferguson, missouri, right now, where, again, there is no curfew in effect tonight as there was saturday night and sunday night. but police are blocking all private vehicles from west florisant from the main drag downtown where protests have happened. again, the national guard has been called out today. the guard is primarily, i guess, defending would be the right word, the police operation center which police said was threatened by protesters over the course of the weekend. we're watching this unfold tonight. it's about 80 degrees and it's not raining for the first night in a few nights in downtown ferguson. we're going to speak with an attorney for michael brown's family, coming up next. stay with us. long we've been talking about the most important social issues. savannah: education. al: conservation. chris: uniting the nation. jim: with a bit of imagination. the more you know.

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guard has been called out again in missouri and this time the flood fight is the flood of emotion and anger after the police killing of an unarmed police teenager last weekend. after the policing of the suss quent protests on the street of ferguson has turned into a nightmare. >> i spoke to jay nixon about this, expressed an interest in making sure that if, in fact, a national guard is used, it used in a limited and appropriate way. he described the support role that they're going to be prov e providing to local law enforcement, and i'll be watching over the next several days to assess whether, in fact, it's helping rather than hindering progress in ferguson. >> president obama speaking today from the white house. this started obviously as a local tragedy, a local crisis, but it is now not just a national story, it is a federal one. president obama in making those remarks today, he announced attorney general eric holder will be personally in ferguson

on wednesday. general holder will be meeting with the federal prosecutor's office in missouri and also with justice department officials from the community policing office and also from the civil rights division who have gone to ferguson already. the independent federal investigation of michael brown's killing also includes several dozen fbi agents on the ground there already. and it includes the justice department doing its own federal autopsy of michael brown's body. that federal autopsy reportedly took place today. that comes after the county did its autopsy and after the family arranged for its own additional autopsy. so the federal one will be the third one. for those who do not thust local authorities in a case like this, is it reassuring to have the federal justice department engaged in the way they are engaged, and after the shock of so much military-style policing of the protest in ferguson, will it help matters or hurt matters to have the actual military, the

national guard on the scene at the police command post in ferguson? thus removing all euphemism from the ongoing sense that this has looked like a war zone out there. joining us now, anthony gray, attorney for the family of michael brown. mr. gray, thank you for joining us tonight. it's nice to have you back. >> thank you for having me, rachel, it's nice to be back. >> thanks. today the results of the autopsy that was performed at the request of the family was released. why did the family want to do their -- want to have their own autopsy done? and what to you make of the federal decision to do even an additional autopsy, so there will be three all together? >> well, i think at the iend of the day, each individual that's responsible in some way, or some aspects, in looking at this case, my firm along with ben crump and daryl parks, as well as the federal government, want to have information that they can direct, that they can trust, coming from sources that they

trust and information they can put their fingertips on. and so from that standpoint, i can understand why you have three separate autopsies. >> in terms of the family and how they're doing, we're now nine days into this, nine days since mr. brown was killed. how is the family holding up? and how -- i guess how are they coping? what's their strategy as a family to try to hold it together with so much attention and so much pressure amid their grief? >> sure. sure. well, i don't know how you prepare for this. i don't know what class you can take to cope with something like this. and i can just tell you this, rachel, from the very first day that this happened, it's been overwhelming and shocking for this family. they have not buried their child. he has not been laid to rest yet. and so all of the emotions are still there from that initial day, and that initial event. and so all of what you're seeing in the aftermath of that is just compounding what you would have

in the ordinary course of losing a loved one under the circumstances that we face right now. >> when the president announced today that not only is there this independent federal investigation, but attorney general eric holder will personally be coming to ferguson on wednesday to meet with federal investigators, dozens of fbi agents already in ferguson. we're seeing a very intense level of federal engagele including the president having spoken on this issue multiple times. i have to ask if that -- with the concerns that you've expressed and the family has expressed about local authorities being able to handle this in a just way, is that comforting to see the federal government involved, and are they doing what the family wants them to do? >> well, not necessarily. we don't know if they're doing what the family wants them to do because we don't know what they're doing. the federal government is being left to their own devices. i can tell you this, there's a sense of comfort, there's a

sense of encouragement that the family receives in knowing that the federal government is involved and it's pretty much conducting its own investigation. to the extent that it provides those kind of intangibles to the family is very welcoming. >> in terms of the family's opinion about how this is being handled, i have to ask you about the decision to call up the national guard. national forward is not directly on the streets, as i understand it. they're at the police operation center. you spoke el quoquently with us friday night about the need to stay peaceful and dignified and do honor to michael brown's memory by protesting this in a way that was civil and constructive. i have to get your reaction to the deployment of the guard here. >> well, rachel, i can tell you this. i don't want to criticize those that are in operational control. i think ferguson has been made out to be a laboratory in terms of the experiments that are happening with security. i have to respect those that see that what didn't work yesterday, we need to change it and do

something today differently. and, you know, because we have not had this kind of behavior in the past, and st. louis is relatively -- i said i can't recall a time in my lifetime where we've had mass rioting and looting in the way you've seen the last several days. what i envision law enforcement doing is adjusting their approach as the situation change. so today we had a national guard here. they're going to play their role. we'll see how it works. if it doesn't work out well, i'm sure that those that are in control will go back to the drawing board and make adjustments based on the current security needs. >> anthony gray, attorney for the family of michael brown, thank you for joining us tonight, sir. i appreciate you being here. thank you. >> thank you for having me again, rachel. always good to talk to you. >> thanks. since this story began, some of the most effective agents of calm in ferguson have turned out to be the protesters, themselves, and some of that kind of amazing detail is ahead. stay with us.

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this is about two hours before last night's midnight curfew was set to go into effect. watch. >> there's a, what looks like kind of a s.w.a.t. team standing out into the darkness outside the qt between a dumpster fire which has been set right near the qt into what's become the infamous gas station where things went down the first night. that, of course, the qt where people had rumored that he'd been accused of -- >> get behind us! >> what's that? >> do not pass us! >> getting barked at by the cops not to pass them. >> can you hold your phone up so we can hear that a little bet r better? >> we just said to me on air, media, do not pass us, you're getting maced next time you pass us. >> they're threatening to mace you? >> had a lot of conversations with chris hayes, they've never included the phrase "they're threatening to mace you." that was around 10:00 local time last night as police were trying to keep a lid on things just before that midnight curfew went

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an experian credit report. join now at experian.com with enrollment in experian credit tracker sm. this is the scene in ferguson, missouri, tonight, as the governor of missouri has called off the midnight to 5:00 a.m. curfew that was imposed last night and the night before, but he has called out the national guard to protect the police operation center on the scene. apparently with a mind toward there by freeing up more police to be out among the protesters. trying to keep the peace tonight. the highway patrol captain who's at least not only in charge of policing the streets of ferguson to allow protests, missouri highway patrol captain ron johnson, he and his officers, frankly, have not been able to keep the peace over the past three nights. in the same way that they were able to on thursday night. but captain johnson has still been able personally to at least speak to the situation on the ground, and the feelings of the community and the protesters in

a way that seems to strike a nerve whenever he does it publicly, striking a nerve, i mean that in a good way. yesterday afternoon captain johnson spoke at the greater grace church before a large crowd and he started with a landmark apology. maybe the first one yet. >> good evening. >> good evening. >> i want to start off by talking to mike brown's family. and i want you to know my heart goes out to you. and i say that i'm sorry. i wear this uniform, and i should stand up here and say that i'm sorry. [ applause ] this is my neighborhood. you are my family. you are my friends. and i am you.

[ applause ] and i will stand and protect you. i will protect your right to protest. [ cheers and applause ] i'm telling you right now, i'm full right now. i came in here today and i saw people cheering and people clapping, and this is what the media needs to put on tv. [ cheers and applause ] because when this is over, i'm

going to go in my son's room, my black son -- [ cheers and applause ] -- who wears his pants sagging, wears his hat to the side, got tattoos on his arms, but that's my baby. we need to pray. we need to thank mike for his life. we need to thank him for the change that he is going to make and to make us better. i love you. i stand tall with you. and i'll see you out there. thank you. >> can hear the kind of reception that he got. that was captain ron johnson speaking last night in ferguson. and as well received as those remarks were in that church, after those remarks, last night was a terrible night on the streets. they say it was the worst yet.

for every night when we have reported violence, violent police tactics, violence between protesters, violence between police and protesters, looting, for all of that, there are these days, these mornings when local folks come out to clean up, to try to make it right, to try to be constructive. and that has happened over and over and over again. although that is a much l lower-profile thing than when the looting happens under those lights and the tear gas scan r canisters flying. the protesters, themselves, are stopping the looting from happening. >> we're protecting our community. the store. everything. let everyone know that everyone out here is not criminals. everyone out here came to peacefully -- that's what we're standing for right now. i don't know if -- only one guy behind me i know. the rest of the guys i don't know. we came out here and stopped the looting as quickly as possible. >> again, tonight in missouri

police are not imposing the midnight to 5k a.m. curfew of the last two nights. there was an effort by folks who want do be seen as leaders on the ground. whether or not they are. there was an effort at the press conference to ask people, ask protesters to please not protest after dark, not just tonight but for the next five nights. who has the credibility, locally, to make that kind of ask in this community right now? who had that kind of credibility coming into this crisis, and who is earning that kind of credibility by being a led ader being a trustworthy leader on day nine of this crisis? joining us, liz brown, attorney and columnist for "the st. louis american." miss brown, thank you very much for being with us. it's nice to see you. >> thank you for having me again, rachel. >> who would you say is the leadership, the trusted leaders, the trusted institutions, in this community at a time when leadership seems like it's

sorely needed? >> i think that we have to start the conversation with the observation that prior to what has happened in ferguson, there's been a leadership void. there has been a leadership void politically. we have one african-american elected official in the ferguson area. there's been a political void with respect to organizations reaching out and connecting with young people. there's been a political void in the sense that citizens have pulled themselves out of the political process. so there's a void for leadership. in this community. and i think that some of the things that we're seeing on the ground right now is a reflection of the fact that there is a void. and then what happens when you have a void? well, you have some people that may want to jump in and fill the void and the question becomes, should those be the people that are jumping in to address this? have they earned the credibility? have they made the connection? have they worked collaboratively with any other organizations?

those are the questions that we have to ask before we even deem anyone a leader or a nonleader. >> and over the course of these nine days, have you seen anything productive toward building trusted leadership? i mean, rather than people just leaping into the void and declaring themselves in charge? or declaring themselves an inspiration? have you seen anything constructive and ground up and real in terms of people eventually earning their way into positions of trust? >> well, one of the things that i've seen, there's a person that i have worked with in the past who has stepped quietly in to begin to organize young people. he's brought together about 60 or 70 young people who came to him withes we of what do we do? this person's expertise is political. he's a community organizer. what he has done is he's managed to twbegin to train these young people and as of today, all 60 of those young people, before

this event they were not registered to vote, but as of today, they are registered to vote and they're coming together to try to figure out a plan moving forward because they're being taught that. it matters that you -- whether or not you engage yourself politically. you have to have control of your political world. i submit to you, rachel, that have there been active and engaged political activity within this community, we wouldn't be where we are right now. >> it's been inspiring to see ordinary people putting themselves between looters and local shops or coming out to clean up the streets the next day. is that all ad hoc at this point? is that a potential building block as the community is trying to move to sort of a more lasting peace and a more integrated sense of taking care of their own -- taking care of themselves as a community? >> i think that that serves more to let the world know who ferguson is. what the citizens of ferguson

are. they're a community. they care about their community. that's almost an instinctual thing. i don't know it's a building thing in as much as showing the world what we do. >> liz brown, attorney and columnist for "the st. louis american" who's been talking about these issues of leadership and context in a way that's been really important from the very beginning. it's great to have you here, liz. thank you very much. >> thank you, again, rachel, for having me. >> appreciate it. all right. we've got some more from ferguson ahead, but we've also got some of the day's other big news and wel be right back with that. stay with us. woooo.

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today even though he is still in the middle of his vacation, president obama was back at the white house for a day. the president gave those highly anticipated remarks about the situation in ferguson this afternoon. but before he did that, he speak at length on the situation in iraq. earlier in the day today the pentagon had announced there had been another 15 u.s. air strikes around the largest dam in iraq, which kurdish forces have been trying to retake from the sunni militant group isis. president obama this afternoon announced those operations were successful. and iraqi and kurdish forces

were able to retake this incredibly, strategically important, and huge site from the militant group. congress for its part has shown no signs of wanting to behave t all on what's now looking like a long and extensive new military operation in iraq. with nearly 900 u.s. troops there the president today announced at least that strategic victory at the dam in mosul. with all eyes on the continuing situation in ferguson, particularly every night as the sun goes down and the country turns its eyes to missouri to figure out if the protests are going to continue there another day, there is other news that would be front-page stuff if it weren't getting crowded out by this other major story. among other things to keep an eye on are u.s. senate races. friday the last two precincts in hawaii that had not voted in the democratic senate primary were allowed to hold their own mini election in which they chose incumbent senator brian schatz as the democratic nominee to run

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their freedoms, they're able to voice their opinion. >> how confident are you it's going to stay this way as we go through the evening? >> we're going to do everything we can to make sure it stays that way. >> captain ron johnson of the missouri state highway patrol explaining how he thinks things are going tonight. there's no cure futon night. msnbc is going to have continuing coverage of day nine of these protests throughout the night tonight. that does it for us. it's time for "the last word with lawrence o'donnell." >> i'm so glad you showed all that great work krais hayes has been doing in ferguson, just amazing. well, we now have the preliminary results of one of the three autopsies that will be done on the body of michael brown. the man who assisted in that first autopsy that's been reported will join me. the whel country