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nbc for 70 years. >> can you believe that? >> music and soccer expert. what's next? >> keep him away from john heilman. if it's way too early, it's "morning joe" but stick around, craig melvin is live from ferguson, right now. anyone who has been to these protests understands there is a dangerous dynamic in the night that allows a small number of violent agitators to hide in the crowd and attempt to create chaos. protesters are peaceful and respectful. protesters don't clash with police. they don't throw molotov cocktails. it is criminals who create the
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chaos. i urge the protesters to come out and demonstrate in the daylight hours where your voices can be heard. >> trying to calm the chaos. that was state highway patrol captain ron johnson a few hours ago, after some of the most intense clashes yesterday here in ferguson. good morning from ferguson, missouri. it is tuesday, august 19th, 2014. this is "the daily rundown." i'm craig melvin in for chuck todd. it's been ten days since a police officer shot and killed unarmed teenager michael brown. two people were shot last night, another 31 were arrested. police say a criminal element, a criminal element from out of town set two fires, threw rocks, threw bottles and molotov cocktails. officers returned fire with tear gas and smoke bombs as well.
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the national guard, as you know, now backing up local officers. but the guard cannot make arrests. and while the daytime protests have been mostly peaceful, by and large, things continue to turn violent at night. >> if you are not credentialed media, you will be subject to arrest. disperse now. you will be subject to arrest. >> they shot everybody. they shot everybody. they're shooting at -- >> eyes all red. >> church ladies. >> it's crazy. >> protesters.
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>> you want to make sure it gets inside of your eyes. >> once again, not a single bullet fired by officers, despite coming under heavy attack. >> president obama is sending attorney general eric holder to ferguson, missouri, tomorrow to get an update on the investigation. a private autopsy found that michael brown was shot six time business officer darren wilson. some protesters are demanding wilson be charged with the shooting. prosecutors told nbc news it may take months to decide whether to charge the officer. brown's parents telling the "today" show this morning they want justice. >> justice will bring peace, i believe. >> only if that justice results in the arrest or charges being filed against officer wilson, is that what it's going to take? >> yes. him being arrested. charges being filed and a
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prosecution, him being held accountable for what he did. >> nbc news correspondent ron allen has been in this st. louis suburb since last weekend when these protesters started. ron, good morning to you. >> good morning, craig. >> what's the latest there from the command center? >> well, the national guard are here, digging in. they'll be here for a while, it looks like. and, as you pointed out, their main mission is not to necessarily go out into the street. their main mission at the moment is command control, command security, i should say, command headquarters security right here. the main thing is that the security forces don't want this militarized look out there in the street because they know that that raises the level of intensity with the protesters. of course, the national guard is here, though. and if problems get to that level and they need this sort of power, this sort of security, this sort of force to go out there and keep the calm.
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the problem, though, is that again the pattern keeps repeating itself every night. and it's early in the night just a couple of hours after dark. the gunfire, the confrontation, the molotov cocktails, the bottles, rocks, all this starts to come out. and that's why it seems now the authorities are really starting to focus on intelligence gathering to the extent that they can, trying to find what they describe as a small group of criminal agitators, element, whatever you want to call it. they think it's a very small, identifiable number of people who are behind the violence. all this violence seems crazy. but the police are really working hard and trying to make sense of it in terms of identifying people. that's one reason, perhaps, why they arrested so many people last night, 30 or so. it gives them names, addresses, phone numbers and more information as they try to trace down the roots of this problem. craig? >> ron allen for us. less than a mile way here in ferguson. ron, thank you.
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citing a dangerous dynamic at night. missouri patrol captain ron johnson urging protesters today to gather during the day, to gather during the sunlight rather than after dark. captain johnson joins me live now on a few hours of sleep. how realistic an expectation is that, captain, for these protesters that have been out largely in large numbers at night to come out during the daylight? >> our peaceful protesters will look at that and a lot of them will do that. they don't want to be part of this. last night we saw where they were being peaceful, they were put in danger by that element of criminals that seems to get into their crowd. >> who are these criminals? this element that you're talking about, this element that you talked about last night, who are these people that the police claim are agitating not just the police but the peaceful protesters as well? >> the criminals that are looting our stores that three nights ago put bricks along the
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roadway. these are the criminals that were shooting at police last night behind bushes and buildings. >> shooting -- >> shooting at the police. our officers were under gunfire last night down here at canfield and west morrison. >> did the officers return fire? >> no, they did not. they were hiding behind bushes near homes. officers didn't want to take the risk of not firing into a home or stray bullet. they used great restraint in that. >> at this point, any information on injuries last night? we know there were more than 30 arrests. any officers injured? any protesters injured to your knowledge? >> we had four officers injure friday st. louis county police department with minor injuries. we had no protesters injured as a result of any of our activity. we did have two subject to -- shot by guns within -- by the groups that were here. >> was lifting the curfew a mistake? >> no, i don't believe so. >> is the curfew going to remain
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lifted today? >> thus far, as we speak now, there is no curfew. >> but it sounds like there is a chance that you guys could decide to institute a curfew once again? >> there has been no conversation about that. >> okay. curfew lifted. national guard was brought in. at this point, neither of those things seemed to have worked. what's next? what do we try next? >> the national guard was brought in to secure the command post and also the safety of those business up there. we do have an operational plan that we're looking at that's always flowing with changes based on circumstances and we'll do the same thing today. >> one of the things you said last night is that you thought that perhaps the media, that journalists had exacerbated the problem. what did you mean by that? >> we had a number of journalists. and not all. i want to say that now. the journalists have been on our side. they have been our partners and reporting. get home each morning. i look at the news and i am really grateful to the media for what they've done.
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we have a lot of media that have not done a great job. last night, when crowds were walking and small groups and it got large and they were just walking. and then when a certain element, that criminal element that got out here with masks on, who wanted to acknowledge at a time, would stop in front of the media. the media would swarm around them, give them a platform and glamorize their activity. before we knew it, the crowd was 100. now it's 200. now it's 300. and now those criminals began to start throwing things on to the crowd that was standing within the media. >> you say glamorize. i can tell you, having spent some time on this main thoroughfare, it has been difficult sometimes to tell the difference between the protesters and the criminals. how are journalists supposed to be able to make that distinction? >> if i come with my face
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covered, handkerchief around my face and all i'm talking about is violence and the words i use are violent, we all know what those are. >> those are not the peaceful protesters? >> no, they're not. >> why have you been allowing a number of those folks to wear those masks? >> that's their freedom. it's freedom of speech, freedom of dress and i'm sure we would be standing here talking about something else if you say, wait a minute, how can you make people take a scarf from around their face? how can you make somebody take a t-shirt that they have walked around their face? what says they can't walk these streets if they don't show you their full face? i'm sure we would be talking about that. >> we heard from the parents this morning, who have indicated that justice for them is going to be the charging of the officer. is that what it is going to take? is it going to take some sort of punishment for the officer involved in this shooting?
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is it going to take some sort of punishment for these streets to clear, for the protests to stop, for the riots to stop, for the tear gas to stop? >> these are two different issues. what mike brown's parents need is an issue, and they told us what that is. >> a number of protesters have said the same thing. i've asked a number of folks, what's it going to take to stop this? they said some sort of punishment for the officer. >> as we know -- and i heard, just like everyone else, from the court system and the courts and the da's office. that is not going to happen tomorrow. so that's not going to happen tomorrow. it may be weeks. it may be months. we have to bring calm to our community. our kids cannot stay in their bed for months and not go to school. our officers can't come out here for months and put their lives in danger. peaceful protesters can't come out here for months and put their lives in danger. these homeowners cannot be uncomfortable sleeping in their
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homes wos s wondering if a stra bullet is going to come into their home. we have to let our legal system work itself out. that's what makes our country great. we have to see what the outcome is. we've got to -- we've had our voice and we've got to bring calm to this situation. we're going to do that. >> how? what's different today? >> we've got a different operational plan. today, my hope is that peaceful protesters were stay home -- protest during the daytime and stay home at night and let us take those that have been ruining our community and take them and deal with them in a way that brings calm to this community. >> how many of those folks who you say -- these agitators, how many would you say are from out of town, out of the st. louis area, out of ferguson? >> i don't have numbers. >> okay. >> many of them -- there's a balance. a lot of them are people that live here in this city. we see them walking. they may not live in ferguson but a lot of them live in st. louis.
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>> thank you for your time. appreciate it. >> thanks. >> up next, in an unprecedented move, amnesty international deploys a group of observers here in ferguson. first time ever within the united states. the head of that mobilized organization joins me here next. to a community in ferguson that is rightly hurting and looking for answers, let me call once again for us to seek some understanding rather than simply holler at each other. let's seek to heal rather than to wound each other. as americans, we've got to use this moment to seek out our shared humanity. if it's been laid bare by this moment. not you. new touch of gray mustache and beard reduces gray without getting rid of it all in just 5 minutes. for the perfect gray look you want. new touch of gray mustache and beard.
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>> any way we want to. >> you have a valid point. you have a valid point. back now with more from ferguson, missouri. where, as you just saw, some community leaders are stepping in to serve as peacekeepers, essentially. local and county police are facing unprecedented criticism from amnesty international. for the first time ever, that global group has dispatched a human rights team on american soil. they're in ferguson to investigate potential human rights abuses against the protesters, abuses like tear gas and smoke bombs being used. either one could violate international standards. amnesty says monitoring the protests has been nearly impossible so far because police would not let them get close to any activity. i'm joined now by the director
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of amnesty international, steve hawkins. we spoke half a block away last night probably around 9:00 or 10:00. >> right. >> what did you see last night? what did you guys hear last night? >> what we saw last night was certainly members of the community trying to keep the peace, but then we saw how the police dispersed, come a certain hour. craig, even though the curfew was lifted, it was in place de facto. police were clearly clearing everyone off the street by midnight and in some ways sort of forcing people on to the side streets. so, we also saw the use of tear gas. >> smoke bombs. >> smoke bombs. >> the use of the tear gas and smoke bombs here, in terms of international norms, and i guess it's a shame there are
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international norms when there comes to these things. when it comes to international norms, what has happened here in ferguson square with those international norms? >> what brought us on the ground was to serve as human rights observers clearly because we saw some troubling signs that what was happening here in ferguson violated international human rights standards. so, for example, the use of tear gas, lobbying of tear gas canister into a crowd from a distance where you have no idea of children in the crowd, elderly, who can both be succumb to tear gas and die if there isn't an opportunity to leave. that violates, clearly, international standards, protocols that amnesty has put out in the field in places like gaza and the west bank. >> have you guys informed law enforcement that they are in violation of these standards and protocols?
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>> we have had conversations with law enforcement. we've asked to be included more in discussions, to be part of the patrol when the curfew was in place. we were denied. and so we would hope that we could have more of a formal observer status than we have. >> how many observers do you have on the ground, by the way? >> we have ten here now and about another four coming. >> you plan to stay through the duration? >> we plan to stay for the duration. >> thank you. appreciate your time. >> yeah. still ahead here, grand jury investigation expected to start as soon as tomorrow. they will look at the legal case facing officer darren wilson. also pressure mounting for governor jay nixon, members of his own party are calling for more action. details next. as we head to break, a look at nellie, favorite son of st. louis, stopped by ferguson late
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they're not letting us go. >> you're trying to go down this way? >> trying to go down this way. they're blocking us. we can't get home. >> then they're telling us to go this way. and we don't want to get arrested. we're trying to leave, peacefully, but we can't. >> i can tell you that those two young protesters got out of the perimeter. they did manage to get out of here. i ran into them around 11:30 last night. they were trapped between two police lines. i'm joined by another reporter
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who has been covering this story from the very beginning here. amnesty international breaking news reporter with "usa today." always good to see you. wish it was under better circumstances. tell us what you saw last night and what folks were telling you as well. >> i saw a lot of chaos last night. i spent a lot of time with protesters down here and i saw people getting tear gassed and also people picking up the tear gas and throwing it back at police officers. i saw people making makeshift barriers to try to block the police. they put cones in the middle of the street and were putting items in the middle of the street. i think that's what got police upset and started tear gassing and tear gassing people some more. there was chanting. remember who this is for. this is for mike brown. people were still on message even while they were defying police. >> there seems to be a growing chasm. and i encountered this yesterday as well, growing chasm between peaceful protesters who were here for mike brown and folks
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who showed up just to cause trouble and steal stuff and wreak havoc in the streaks. is that chasm growing? you've been here from the beginning. >> i think that is definitely growing. one of the nights three or four nights ago, people were standing in front of the stores, blocking them. that's the first time we saw like a real divide. now people are saying, i'm going to leave because i'm a peaceful protester. even before the police are telling them, so they know, look, i'm not with these people. i'm here because of michael brown. and the later and later it gets, especially the people who don't want to leave when the police say to leave, those are the people who usually start causing trouble, grabbing signs off the road, making makeshift barriers. it's those people who end up breaking in the stores a lot of times much there's definitely a growing divide there. >> it did not seem as if lifting the curfew last night made a big difference. >> it definitely didn't make a big difference. i saw people just as angry, just as inflamed and i saw people clashing with police because
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even though there wasn't a curfew, an official curfew, by around 10:00, 11:45, police started clearing everybody out. not just me, not just some of the reporters, but everybody. everybody had to go. that was at 11:45. even though there wasn't a curfew, people are upset saying there's no curfew. why should we leave? i don't think there was a big difference in that. >> always good to talk to you. always appreciate your insights. stick around. we would obviously like to spend time with you throughout the day. you get some ewe theek vantage points that we're not able to get. thank you, as always. missouri governor jay nixon tried that consider few, tried calling out the national guard. so far, nothing has eased the tension here in ferguson. he has now come under attack from some members of his own party for failing to do more. that includes state senator maria chapelle-nadal.
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i always struggle with your name. did i get it right? >> yes. >> what more you would like to see governor nixon do. what is that? what more do you want? >> now we need to get into phase two of this entire ordeal and that is really to redirect the energy and the focus of the protesters who are acting out in peace. and we need to look at outcomes such as how to get involved at the local level. immediately, what people are looking for is some kind of grand jury. they're looking for an entitlement. they're looking for an arrest. they want to see some type of justice that is made right now currently. >> what if those things don't happen? >> then it's going to be a big deal for this community. >> what do you mean by big deal? i mean, can it get much bigger than what we've seen over the past few days? >> yes. yes. this community is very angry and very hurt. and because there's such a disconnect between generations and people and the governor, you don't understand what these kids
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are going through, these young people. any given day, any given time, they can be themselves michael brown. because they've had isolated events but not been killed they want to see justice. because they see themselves in michael brown. and so that's why it's so important to just be among the people. i had a grown man yesterday cry in my arms yesterday. right at the qt. he just wanted his right to speak, to protest. and he has a cane. and he doesn't feel comfortable just walking in a circle all day long. >> the voices like the one you just mentioned, are those voices being drowned out by some of the other folks? you and i both encountered these peop people. >> anarchists have come, i've heard. >> anarchists? >> that's what everyone is
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calling them. >> those who want to topple the government? >> yes. >> really? >> i heard that several times from elected leaders in important positions and otherwise, that we have folks coming from california and other places throughout the country and their only mission is to attack police. and it's only a handful of people who are distracting what we're trying to do. and we don't welcome them here. we're here in peace and to raise the consciousness of all people about what goes on in communities that look like this. >> you represent this area. you also caught some flack for some tweets you sent out a few weeks ago. >> i did. >> where you said -- we can't use the language here on cable television but it was f the governor. >> yes. >> you called bs on a lot of stuff. >> yes. >> this was not just one. this was -- >> yes. >> do you regret that? >> not at all. i have the same frustration as my community. but i'm an elected leader. when you have a governor who is at the state fair, listening to country music while -- >> he is the leader of your party. >> yes. so that's what makes me even more so angry, is that he
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allowed his own democratic senators -- and it's not one senator, democratic senator who has been gassed so far. it's two democratic senators. and the governor was at a country music fair at the state fair and that's when he decided to turn around. but, again, we have to move on to results. you know, if we're here day 25 or we're here at day 60 and the governor still has not come to ground zero, we're going to move forward with or without the governor. and if it's his choice not to speak to these young people who see themselves as michael brown, then that's his issue. but we are here on the ground, every single day. and we're going to move forward. >> thank you, as always, for your time. >> thank you. much more ahead live from ferguson. first, though, i want to clarify something that attorney general eric holder's trip to ferguson tomorrow. the attorney general decided to come to ferguson on his own. he was not sent by president obama. holder saying in a statement yesterday, quote, in addition to
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updating the president on these developments, i informed him of my plan to personally travel to ferguson wednesday. again, eric holder going to be here tomorrow on his own accord apparently. all of this as the big question many on the ground are waiting to know the answer to. will the officer involved in michael brown's death -- will that officer face criminal charges? brown family attorney benjamin krump is here live on the other side of this break. missouri democratic senator claire mccaskill appearing on "morning joe" to talk about the federal government's role and the investigation. >> there are some really technical forensic evidence in this case. so, i wanted to make sure that was being duplicated and i want to make sure that with eric holder's visit tomorrow the people in the community are reassured that there is a very, very competent set of eyes looking over the shoulder of every state and local investigator in the community. woooo.
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we want them to be held accountable. don't you? >> absolutely. >> you think if charges were filed, things would -- >> absolutely. >> without a doubt. >> why hasn't he been processed like anybody else? like anybody else. that's all we're asking, man. if he's so innocent, what do he have to be afraid of the law for? he is the law! >> under pressure from the community here and the governor to speed up the investigation. st. louis county prosecutors telling nbc news that a missouri grand jury could hear evidence in the michael brown shooting as early as tomorrow. >> police involved shootings are different. and they're different because the officers, by their nature and by law, are authorized to use force. the real issue is whether that force was appropriate in the situation or whether it was
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excessive. >> zachary roth, national reporter, msnbc.com joins me live. what are you hearing from the st. louis prosecutor's office? how much pressure is there on prosecutor mccullough? >> i spoke to ed mcgee moments ago. and he stressed we will attempt to present evidence to the grand jury on wednesday. i said why only attempt? what would stop you? he said it's a scheduling issue. they need to make sure they can get the witnesses there and have time in the grand jury's schedule. this is a regular grand jury that meets in st. louis county every week. but i think they are feeling -- they won't say it. they are feeling a lot of pressure from the community to move this investigation forward. >> folks who aren't familiar with st. louis politics, how is mccullough generally viewed here? what are his politics? what's his background? >> he has been in office for over two decades now. and it's fair to say he is not well liked and well trusted by
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the black community in st. louis county. there was just -- he ran for re-election against a black challenger, relatively racially charged race. there's a lot of his history where the black community feels like he has not been on their side. he didn't prosecute two white cops accused of shooting down two black men about a decade ago in a kind of racially charged case. he has not endeared himself recently by -- he questioned the decision to put ron johnson in charge of the policing operation and so there have been calls for him to step aside and appoint someone who the black community feels can be more objective in this case. >> any point to believe that's something that's going to happen? >> no. in fact, his office says there's no mechanism to make him step aside. he is going to do his job as he is supposed to do. it looks like in the last day or two, those calls have been receding a little bit. >> missouri congressman cleaver
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addressed the legal case a short time ago here on "morning joe." >> we won't be able to get a thorough investigation by the justice department and the fbi until we can kcreate a climate for that investigation. and what's happening now is damaging or interfering with the -- what needs to be done. >> joining me now, the attorney representing michael brown's family, benjamin crump. good to see you again. the grand jury, again, as we heard from zachary, expected to hear evidence as early as tomorrow. is that what you're hearing as well? >> that's what we're hearing. >> how much faith and how much trust do you put in that grand jury? >> we're very concerned, craig. we're very concerned because it's a secret proceeding. this whole thing that's going on in ferguson is about transparency and mistrust. how can we then have faith in a
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secret proceeding if they come out for a decision saying they won't indict an officer and nobody knows what they heard? >> do you get the sense from folks that you talked to -- i know you spent a lot of time on the ground here as well. that the only way that the protests are going to stop, the only way that the riots are going to stop is for an arrest, for an indictment? >> well, this is the sad part about it. if there is no arrest, we don't get to find out anything that happened in the case, because there's not due process. he doesn't have to face the evidence or any of the witnesses against him in a court of law. if it was reversed, craig, everybody know that the young man would have been arrested and then the evidence would have been put before a court of law. >> when you say reversed, if the officer were black and the dead 18-year-old white? >> yeah. no question about it. he would have been arrested, if you reverse the racial dynamics
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and different things or if you just reverse it where you have michael brown shoot an officer. you would have a trial. what this community is really troubled by is the fact that they keep killing little black and brown boys and nobody is ever arrested and the investigation goes on and then it's swept under the rug and it's over. >> what's the family say right now about a possible funeral? are the browns saying when they might lay their son to rest? >> they're trying to do so toward the end of the week. they may not be able to do it, but they're trying to. >> public or private? >> public. >> open casket? >> we don't know, craig. >> how are they? how is the family right now? >> craig, obviously, it is emotional. they're devastated. they still don't believe it.
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and they haven't had time to grieve because they're fighting for justice for mike. they're trying to tell people in the community to be peaceful when you're irresponsible and violent and it takes us off the focus on getting justice for mike. they have to understand they have to be his voice now because he's not here to speak for himself. it's just hard for them, if that can answer your question. it's very hard for them right now. >> national guard has been brought in. curfew was lifted. neither one of those things seems to have worked so far. what else needs to happen here in ferguson for peace and order and calm to be restored ? >> you know, i thought his mother said it best. justice will restore the peace. right now, these people are crying out for justice. and they're crying out that they get equal justice. nobody is saying be unfair to the police officer. he has his right to due process.
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we're a nation of laws. but what we are saying is be fair to michael brown's family as well. when do they get their due process? when do they get their voice heard in the court system? >> very quickly before i let you go, ben, law enforcement response last night compared to previous nights, how would you characterize it? >> well, i think we all have a responsibility, craig. we, as the community -- if we see people doing irresponsible things, we have to call them out and we've got to make sure we tell them they're not helping the matter, the focus. we also have to tell law enforcement, you all have to respect our first amendment constitutional rights. we have a right to protest. we think this is a grave injustice. we think this kid was executed in broad daylight by a police officer. so we have a right in america to speak up against it. >> what do you make of the reports so far? i know you've heard them. i know you've read them, that
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michael brown was charging the officer, that he was, quote, bum rushing the officer. >> you know what's interesting? it's very irresponsible for this other news outlet to use a source that has not been identified, has not been -- but the rules are different when it's a little black kid on the street. but let's take that there and discount all the other witnesses and everything. you got no physical evidence on the autopsies and stuff and then the way this bullet goes into his head from -- that the doctor says is the kill shot. he would have survived the other shots except for the shot to the head. he's running at a perfect 90-degree angle for that bullet to be able to do what it did, go through his head backward to front. it doesn't add up. and that's why he needs to be arrested and needs to be a trial. this kid was executed, like
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much more from ferguson here in just a few moments right now. there are other breaking news to pass along to you. hamas tv is reporting that israel has bombed agriculture land north of gaza city. reuters reporting netanyahu has ordered negotiators to return home after gaza rockets strike israel. breaking news overseas right now. back here in ferguson, we'll dig deeper into the legal case for and against officer darren wilson, who fired the fatal shot
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back now from ferguson, missouri. live here more on the legal questions. i want to turn to don marsh and william. director of school of journalism at southern illinois university and professor of paul simon public policy institute. thank you for being with me. how much evidence would a grand jury need to charge darren wilson? >> i'm probably not the right person to ask that question. i'm not an attorney. my friend bill here is and probably would be a better one to answer the question. i know, that the -- the grand jury apparently is going to begin hearing evidence tomorrow. that much i do know for certain. but i'll defer to him on that. >> yeah, i meant can you answer that for me. what charges would be likely as well? >> there would have to be probably cause to believe that officer wilson committed a crime.
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the most likely charge, if would be voluntary manslaughter. it would be possible seco second-degree murder charge would be possible but probably less likely. >> mr. marsh, here in st. louis, again, you know, we're in ferguson. for folks not familiar with the geography of this area, there's a causam between ferguson and the rest of st. louis to a certain extent. talk to me about how it's being perceived in ferguson and how it's being perceived outside of ferguson as well in other parts of st. louis county. >> sure. i think the causam goes well beyond ferguson. i think there's a real situation in this area involving the northern part of the st. louis suburbs, premom nantly black. there's a situation there. it's a highly segregated
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community. it's a racially polarized community. it got going many years ago when white flight left the communities open for move in by the blacks who had been restricted where they could live until that time. they moved north. the white population moved out and created many communities like ferguson. how is it being perceived here in st. louis? well, there are a lot of different emotions. i think there's a lot of concern about what is going on, obviously in ferguson, there's a lot of compassion for people not involved who are losing their businesses and livelihoods. i think there's also a high level of embarrassment in this community throughout the metropolitan area. the st. louis is being perceived not only across the country but across the world in the way it has been. with amnesty international in the community now. i guess it's the first time in history that amnesty international has been looking on something on american soil. that's extremely embarrassing
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and shocking. people are very much concerned about that. >> quickly here. based on what you have heard and read, even perhaps what you have seen. the evidence, i guess, in the public domain. look likelihood that charges will be filed against this officer? >> i don't think you can say at this point it's likely or unlikely. i think there's way too much we don't know. and for people to suggest that an officer should have been arrested and charged with murder is really rushing things. it's going take the grand jury is going to have to listen to the different witness accounts, and, you know, the different accounts would lead to different results. the brown family's account of him there with his hands up being shot. that would lead to charges. the police account of brown struggling for the gun and then coming back toward wilson, that
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might well not be the charges. >> all right. guys, i wish we had more time. that's going to do it for this edition of the daily run down. i'll be back here live tomorrow morning at 9:00 a.m. coming up jose diaz balart picks up the coverage. he takes a closer look at the attorney general as he heads property test in ferguson as well as the brewing first amendment debate. this is msnbc. keep it right here. oh, jamie, you got a little something on the back of your shoe there. a price tag! danger! price tag alert! oh. hey, guys. price tag alert! is this normal? well, progressive is a price tag free zone. we let you tell us what you want to pay, and we help you find options to fit your budget. where are they taking him? i don't know. this seems excessive! decontamination in progress. i don't want to tell you guys your job, but... policies without the price tags. now, that's progressive.
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good morning. i'm jose diaz-balart. our first focus is ferguson, missouri. a city still searching for resolution this morning. after another night of violence with a cur view lifted after two nights on the national guard on the scene, more tear gas, more clashes with police. this morning the parent was michael brown said this about
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their city and their son. >> when justice is prevailed, maybe they'll regain their trust in the locals, but right now it's really out of control. >> we need to keep the focus of michael brown. that's who we need to keep the focus on michael brown, jr. >> this is the headline "streets flair up." my colleague chris hayes was there for one of the flair near the local quick trip. >> it looks like flash grenades. there's smoke rising up from where the quick trip is. we see protesters hurling things at -- i can't tell what they are. they're popping in the sky. they look like fireworks. they could be flash grenades. could be about to get tear gassed here, frankly. >> as of this morning, at least 31 arrests were made overnight. at least two
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