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and protesters clashing in the streets. members of our team were actually targeted by demonstrators while they were live on air. >> we've been out here since the live show at 7:00 p.m. central. and whoa. >> hey, hey, hey, hey. watch out, chris. you know what? >> protesters chucking rocks at us. >> let's -- >> not the true story. >> you know what? we are telling the true story. >> people are angry, man. they're really angry. >> all in all, 78 people were arrested last night. police blaming a criminal element from outside of town for that violence. today, police are calling for peaceful protesters to come in the daytime. tomorrow, attorney general eric holder is going to arrive in ferguson. he is going to meet with prosecutors and fbi investigators. first up, let's get latest from the ground in ferguson.
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craig melvin is just back from the ride-along. you got the firsthand experience riding along with captain ron johnson. what did he have to say? >> reporter: you know, for folks who may not have been following this thing, captain johnson, of course, over the entire law enforcement effort here in ferguson. he's got command of the nagtionl guard and the other law enforcement agencies, as well, that have all december escended ferguson. it's fascinating. neighborhoods and businesses and the businesses, business owners stopped by or the business owners where we stopped, the businesses where we stopped by, essentially were all saying the same thing, ronan. they were saying we want you to continue to protect our businesses so we can stay open. we stopped by a convenience store that had been broken in not once but twice. been looted, saw some video of
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40 or 50 young people who had gone in, many wearing masks, taken a bunch of stuff. young ladies, as well. bags. owner, tears in the eyes essentially begging captain johnson to try and get things back to normal here. but we spent the bulk of our time in a neighborhood nearby. where we talked to folks who all of them sort of said the same thing. that they were just as frustrated with the criminal element that you just mentioned, the criminal element that captain johnson's been talking about, all of them saying they're fed up, as well. i asked captain johnson during our ride-along, how do you make that distinction between the peaceful protesters and that so-called criminal element? this is what he said. >> we need to separate the good and the bad. we need to separate the good and the bad. and by separating, i'm not saying that we want to take away anybody's right, but separate yourself. separate yourself. it's like growing up. and your parents tell you going
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to school, you separate yourself from the bad kids. i want you to be over here. so you separate yourself. and we need to separate ourselves. and sometimes in school it's easy to do. the principal said the bad kids to this class, the good kids to that class. >> reporter: how does law enforcement separate them? >> yesterday was a start when i said the citizens to do the protests in daylight hours and go home. >> reporter: they didn't do that last night. >> i just asked them last night. we'll see what happens today. >> reporter: so again, that's going to be what they are attempting to do here on this tuesday afternoon. the call has gone out for organized, peaceful protests to happen before the sun goes down. perhaps you hear cameron in the background here. this is cameron. these are his parents, caron johnson and tadra johnson. you live in kahnefield green and where the shooting happened. >> yes, sir, it is. >> reporter: when did you move in? >> august 5th, 2014.
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>> reporter: and that was just four days before? >> yes, sir. >> reporter: what's happened since to you and your husband and little cameron? >> well, a lot has happened. we haven't been able to live in our apartment complex because so much going on. when we are there, we have to stay up and be aware of the surroundings. there's shooting going on in the parking lot of the apartment complex. >> reporter: every night? >> the last two nights since i've been home is shooting going on. i tried to stay away from there. it's so much going on that i want my kids to be safe. so i try to stay away and been there two nights and crazy, chaos. people hanging out. >> reporter: you have a newborn, as well. we showed cameron. how old's the newborn? >> she is 1 week and 3 days. >> reporter: wow. are you going to stay at canfield green? >> sir, right now we're trying to talk to the mayor of ferguson
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and the community activist programs to help us, you know, to at least do something about the security. you know? if we can't get the money back, hire security. put fences in front of the gates. you know? we got kids that want to run around and play. we shouldn't have to go broad day early in the morning just for them to go outside and play. >> my son like to go outside and ride his bike but i don't want nothing personally to happen to my kids so i feel like he need to stay in the house. >> reporter: you don't feel safe? >> no, i don't. this morning i tried to call the leasing office to see if i can have my lease broken and the at least have my deposit back to move and when i called this morning, the lady said she didn't call me back because she left early for safety reasons. and when i went on to ask her about my lease, she was like, oh, there's nothing i can do. you signed the lease. >> reporter: okay. >> and i feel like there is something that can be done and i
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would like help with this situation. >> reporter: okay. >> because i want the move and i want my kids to be safe. >> reporter: thank you. >> thank you, sir. >> reporter: good luck. >> thank you. >> reporter: they live just a block from where we are right now, maybe two blocks and same apartment complex where michael brown was shot back august 9th. >> thank you for that incredible reporting. really important. much more of an understanding of the situation. we saw that video of you and chris hayes targeted last night by protesters throwing rocks. how common is that level of hostility toward the press there? >> reporter: people are angry and have been angry here as you know and you have heard and seen for several days. that anger by and large is directed at law enforcement. some of that anger has been directed at journalists. some of that anger directed at media and probably heard them shouting to tell the whole story, the true story. as we maintained with them last
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night, that's what we are doing and a conversation i had today, as well, with captain johnson. captain johnson has said and has alluded to and said it outright, as well. to me and a conversation on camera last night, as well. that he thinks that journalists and media are in part exacerbating the problem here on the ground. and there are a lot of journalists, myself included who take issue with that. but they have said that they are going to be instituting some new rules for journalists tonight. it remains to be seen precisely what that is going to mean for folks on the ground here trying to cover the story. >> we'll be diving into what journalists are up against later. we have a recently arrested journalists on the show. appreciate your reporting. great to have you with us. >> reporter: thank you. the ongoing chaos you have heard about from craig and others on the ground is leaving people pointing fingers in the community, including at missouri
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state leadership. joining me from missouri, the sit's lieutenant governor, peter kinder. thank you for joining us. the striking thing is how critical you yourself have been of leadership. you've talked very harshly about the governor's response. look at the headlines generating saying you ripped into did governor. i think we have some of those there. here's some footage of him. where in your opinion has he gone wrong? >> well, ronan, first of all, thank you for having me on and i read your bio and very impressed with the humanitarian work you've done around the world. >> thank you, sir. >> my -- ronan, my focus has been trying to say that we need leadership. we need realtime leadership. we need realtime communication among all levels of law enforcement. it seems that lies at the foot of the chief executive of missouri state government. i don't know why it took eight days into this awful ten-day period now before we got did announcement of a curfew mid
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afternoon on saturday and when we got the announcement of a curfew, it was curfew beginning at 1:00 midnight and ending at 5:00 a.m. instead of the dawn to dusk curfew past history has shown it is much more effective to restoring the peace and calm and law and order that those voices you had on the air so eloquently spoke out that they want. thank you for that excellent reporting, as well. those are the law-abiding voices resident right there in ferguson, missouri. who are crying out. so yesterday, after the ineffective curfew of a couple of nights, we got the announcement about this time midday that there would be no curfew last night. what was the result? the result is today's daily newspaper in st. louis, a very grim headline and looks like we probably had the most violent night yet. in this ten-day period after the
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announcement of no curfew. we were to have a session in which we were briefed on a conference call. those six constitutional officers of missouri state government elected statewide by the people were to be briefed on a conference call by the governor yesterday. he came on and after two glitches that knocked him off the call when he was the only one talking, he never came back to the call and we ended up being briefed hours later by an aide and i said to the aide that you have a lot of people puzzled across the state of missouri why you would announce there's no curfew on monday night. >> lieutenant governor, i take it from that answer you think the curfew should be reinstated? >> i certainly do, ronan. i don't understand an argument for not reinstating it. and i said to the young aide who was briefing us, very nice, young man, i said, look. when you announce a curfew beginning at midnight, you have just announced to the bad actors
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so many of whom, most of whom are from outside ferguson, many of them are from outside the state of missouri, "the washington post" is reporting many are from texas and many are from illinois, you have announced to the bad actor that is they've got four hours of darkness in which they can do their looting and the throwing of molotov cocktails and storming of convenience stores and breaking into retail stores before the curfew begins. i do not understand that. and i'm not trying to be overtly political. i am saying the people of ferguson, the people of the state of missouri, are crying out for leadership. >> thank you so much, lieutenant governor. before you go, i did want do get your reaction. mayor of ferguson just told one of my colleagues tamron hall this morning this about race in this community. take a listen. >> there's not a racial divide in the city of ferguson. >> according to whom? is that your perspective or do you believe that that is a
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perspective of african-americans in your community? >> that is the perspective of all residents in our city. absolutely. >> perspective of all residents, but we just have a new poll out saying 80% of black americans believe it's raising racially charged issues compared to 37% of americans. is race playing a role in what's happening in ferguson right now? >> there's no question it is. i'll let mayor knowles speak for himself but my prayers go up for all in ferguson and north st. louis county to get peace and justice restored. we do not justice in america in the streets, though. we have legal processes that are set in motion, that are designed after centuries of anglo-american jurs prudence justice to protect the rights and liberties of everyone involved, including brown family and justice for them and the community and includes the
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officer not yet been charged. he could not be charged because the evidence has not yet been laid before the grand jury. the prosecutor in missouri by statute and under our criminal justice system has the option of charging himself, this is very different from many other states, he can charge on his own, what's called a prosecutor's information, or he can charge by taking the matter to a grand jury. to the prosecutor's credit, he announced several days ago, i'm taking this to the grand jury. that means the citizens of st. louis county impanelled in a grand jury tomorrow or the next day are going to begin to get this evidence laid before them and our constitutional and bill of rights protections have to be followed here and we do not do justice in the streets, ronan. that's one of the great advances of anglo-american civilization is that we do not have politicized trials. >> of course, the federal justice system is looking at
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just that, the fbi is pursuing the civil rights charges. >> that's right. >> really appreciate your breaking this down for us and thank you for your service in this difficult time. some video of ferguson that caught our eye. you are looking at it right now. georgia democratic congressman john lewis with protesters side by side in the streets yesterday. posted it on instagram days ago. the civil rights icon called on the president to declare marshall law in ferguson in response to blunders in his opinion of local police. we'll talk to a congressman trying to curb these exact problems and bigger problem of police brutality across the country. stay with us. there's a gap out there. that's keeping you from the healthcare you deserve. at humana, we believe the gap will close when healthcare gets simpler. when frustration and paperwork decrease.
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we're bringing you live updates of ferguson, missouri, that is all hour. of course, a community still in turmoil today. unrest fueled by a lot of unquestioned answers. where is darren wilson, the officer accused of fatally shooting michael brown? has he be questioned, interrogated about the incident? why did he shoot and how many times? we know at least six. were there any warning shots? finally, what everybody in ferguson is asking, will officer wilson be questioned and the tough tactics of police to respond to protests over all of this. first, let's get the latest of ferguson. zach ross is there. what are you hearing about the investigation and the affect on the community? >> yeah, hi, ronan. i spoke with the county prosecutor's spokesperson today and said they'll attempt to present evidence to a grand jury
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on wednesday. i said, why attempt? he said it's just a scheduling issue, making time with the grand jury. but it sounds like they're hoping for it to happen. whether that will calm the community is a different question. there's been concern amongst much of the black community here about the prosecutor. he's not been seen as a friend of the black community for a number of reasons. and so, there is still a press conference tomorrow where black leaders call on him to step aside, something they've been asking for for several days. they said they're moving ahead with the investigation so that's what's happening with that. the other issue to talk about to do with the police response, it's worth noting, there are four different levels of police here, national guard now, the state troopers, the county police and then a number of different local police jurisdictions. and so, despite the best actions
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of ron johnson, it's been i think very difficult to coordinate that response and we saw that last night. the only clear instruction protesters were given is to keep moving. they couldn't stop. so largely, people complied with that. but at a certain point, the arrests began when people were judged to be not acting in the right manner. just a few moments ago, we had people walking by complaining about police militarization. so it's definitely not helping. >> zach roth, thank you for that. that's the question around the country. stop the militarization is a call we have heard on the ground and from the hill. there's some legislators trying to introduce legislation to fix this problem. one of those proposals comes from the next guest, that is -- excuse me -- thank you. prompter took a second there. bobby scott, representative who is introduced a proposal on the hill to discuss this more
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seriously. of course, representative from virginia. thank you so much, sir, for joining us and the subcommittee on crime, terrorism, homeland security and investigations. so we talked about this first step of congress meeting, but if you're able to get action out of the meeting, what legislation specifically do you want to see? >> what we are trying to do is see what patterns there are in the police when people died in the custody of police. i introduced legislation to in effect for several years and expired. deaths in custody. where all deaths in the process of arrest or in prisons will be reported to the attorney general so that we can have some database of what is going on. one of the things that we're looking at is what patterns there may be and what best practices could make a difference. we have seen some things, suggestions like body cameras and other techniques where you
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can get the pressure down and so things don't escalate into situations where deadly force has to be used. the techniques can significantly reduce the number of murders and we need to have hearings to ascertain what's going on nationwide, not just in one case, but nationwide. >> one proposal that's coming up with increasing frequency is body cameras in police uniforms and a study really found an astonishing drop in the use of force. in california they used them for a year and 60% reduction in the use of force and 88% reduction of citizen complaints against police. should that be considered more wi widely, sir? >> almost a 90% rux did in complaints and confidence in the police. a problem of ferguson is people do not -- people have a total lack of confidence and some elected officials in the area have a lack of confidence in the
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police force. so, i mean, anything to do to increase the kind of confidence people have, you have police review boards. a lot of things that can help. the demilitarization is one. we had an amendment on the floor of the house i think a lot of people would like to get those votes back where we did not limit the kinds of military weapons that can be given to local police. but there are a lot of things that we can do and the first is to have a hearing, get all the information, not just on one case. you don't want to legislate on one case. you want to legislate on as much information as you can. and see what kind of best practices can be used to reduce the number of people that died in police encounters. >> congressman scott, we'll be following closely with the response on the hill to this. so important right now. >> thank you. you heard from the congressman on a simple solution to the complex questions raised
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by the situation in ferguson. arming police with the body cameras. police departments experimented with the cameras. thus far, data shows them to be -- sign this white house petition requiring body cameras worn by all police officers. it's reached the threshold needed by september 11th and moved fast and that script changed over the course of the show. we have driven at least 8,000 signatures since yesterday. keep them coming and reporting on the response to this. just ahead, much more on the protests in ferguson. still developing fast. we leave you with these images becoming too familiar. marchers in the streets demanding answers after the death of michael brown. don't go away.
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calling in the national guard to quell the violence in ferguson underscores how serious the situation is getting. the guard's been deployed in the most significant crisis and to help clean up natural disasters and california's national guard, of course, called upon in 1992 to respond to the unrest in the l.a. riots. and in 2005, we all remember the national guard and the pivotal response in louisiana following hurricane katrina. to help with the flooding and the overall mayhem there. joining me now from baton rouge is the man that led that task for katrina for the national guard, lieutenant general russell onerae. thank you for being here s. the national guard helping in ferguson? >> oh, absolutely. but just a correction, i worked with the national guard. i let the federal troops in new
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orleans and the three states affected by katrina. yes, i think the national guard will help. probably could have gotten the same thing done calling up 250 more state troopers. but the rest of the state still has to operate. and that's why the national guard is in every state so the governors can use them. i think the way they elected to use them was a good tactic. pull them in the rear and have them or secure the base of operations. and protect a certain place. but yes. i think all americans, we need to be comfortable because that's the force we have in every state in america and their job is to back up and do what that governor asked them to do but in cases of civil disturbance, they're trained and they're equipped to perform the tasks and it is an appropriate mission for the national guard. the challenge is when you bring the guard in after you have seven days of using the wrong tactics by law enforcement and
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trying to get that right and trying to use law enforcement as a solution, as opposed to coming to a political solution to this, and a justice solution to this, we keep responding to the people speaking out and practice civil disobedience with a law enforcement response as opposed to the response and the people's narrative is we want justice, fairness and stop aggressive police actions and what the government keep giving them is more aggressive police actions. >> lieutenant general, based on your experience post-katrina, what lessons would you impart to the highway guard personnel -- i'm sorry. to the national guard personnel that are now deploying in ferguson? >> well, i think the all-government solution the police need to get a narrative from the politicians on what they want to do. i think the idea of facilitating
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the people right to practice first amendment right facilitate that, give them a stage, an mic. facilitate that. let them vent. at the same time, the politicians have to figure out what is the off ramp for this event and the people have spoken. it is justice, it's the aggressive police actions and it has something to do with the fairness and the release of information. to people are practicing disobedience and every day the law enforcement come up with a new rule. you can't stand on this side of the street. you have to keep walking. they have not made it routine for people to practice the first amendment right. they need to routine that and then walk with the people and facilitate safe passage opposed to walking against them and sb grate the police force with the people. and they have got to find what rules they're going to break because right now the rules got them in trouble. they have to find a solution out of this. >> as you point out, so eloqu t
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eloquently, failing to do that, they play into the criticism of over militarization of the response. appreciate your time on this. thank you. >> and civil disobedience. people look for rules to break. >> appreciate it. up next, we look at this problem that's been getting bigger and bigger every day. reporters and some of our own caught in the cross fire. >> we've been out here since the live show at 7:00 p.m. central. and -- whoa. >> hey, hey, hey, hey, hey! watch out, chris. you know what? >> protesters chucking rocks at us. >> let's go. >> tell the true story! >> we are telling the true story. >> people are angry, man. they're really angry. >> we'll talk to one of the most recent war reporters to be arrested in ferguson. stay with us. and burning.
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nbc has just obtained the list of people arrested in ferguson last night. it toll ats 78 people. of whom about 70% are local. from missouri. nbc's gabe gutierrez is speaking to some of those being released from the st. louis county jail today. >> why did you feel so compelled to go out there and protest? >> i just want to support the cause. i mean, that kid did not deserve to die. i mean, them cops -- the cop was wrong for shooting him. and i mean, i live out here. i have to be out here every day so, i mean, i don't want crooked cops where i have to say for the rest of my life. >> overall, how would you say the police response to this has been? >> crappy. if i can say that, crappy. >> why is that? >> well, for one i don't think they're on the same page. i don't think they all have the same understanding of what to
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do. like, we were all told we were allowed to be out there protest and then others said we can't be there. some are telling us on the sidewalk, that's okay. others are, like, well, you need to leave before we arrest you all. >> gabe gutierrez is at the police command post in ferguson and joins us now from there. gabe, thank you. first of all, just give us an understanding of what's happening here legally. what were most of the people even charged with? >> reporter: well, hey there, ronan. good afternoon. all but three charged with failure to bis percendisperse, charged with an unlufl use of a weapon and one interfering with an officer. they've been released after six to eight hours being processed and not posting bail. where are they from? more than 70% we learned according to those records are from the state of missouri. five of them were from the new york area. three of them were from the chicago area. one from huntsville, alabama. two from austin, texas.
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one from washington, d.c., ronan. >> police saying out of towners to blame for a lot of violence. what are people telling you about that charge? >> reporter: well, these particular protesters that we spoke with this morning they deny that. captain johnson said there's been this out of town criminal element that's intentionally provoking these police officers. these particular protesters that we spoke with, they argue that's not case. they feel that the police just overreacted in this case. one of them told us that the police officers dragged him and friends from the truck peacefully trying the leave the area. but right now captain johnson is insisting that these out of towners and this criminal element is intentionally provoking these police officers and at least according to the records we saw, however, more than 70% of the ones arrested are local. if that the's case and out of towners provoking the police officers, they didn't seem to end up in the st. louis county jail last night. ronan? >> gabe, in ferguson, appreciate your reporting on this.
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it's not just protesters. journalists are being arrested and repeatedly. joining me is rob krilly and he was arrested sunday night. thank you for being here, sir. we'll talk about the specifics of your arrest in a moment, but first off, does it appear to you that police are actually arresting people they deem a real threat? >> well, last night i witnessed -- what i can only describe as a snatch squads out of the police lines and targeting individuals, arresting them, forcing them on to the ground and picking up people throwing bottles. so they were really making an effort to find the troublemakers but at the same time they have been asking people to keep moving and not assemble so anybody lagging behind in the street, loitering, was being picked up, as well. >> rob, you were tweeting as you yourself were arrested. you said police pointed weapon at me and captain johnson threatened me arrest, called the squad car.
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very jumpy and then report you've been arrested and, quote, captain johnson furious at journalists getting in the way. finally, johnson ordered my handcuffs off with two others. i gather we're now free. what led up to your arrest? >> we were at the police command scenter on sunday and two others and began to make our way down to another media facility just here and as we walked through the target shopping center, we came upon two police officers, maybe 30 yards away ordering us to stop. we explained we were journalists and as you walk closer, clear it was captain johnson and said if we didn't back up we would be subject to arrest and explained the curfew was not in place and then he repeated his threat. we stood our ground and argued the case. whereupon he said we would be arrested and began strolling back the way we'd come and other police officers arrived to
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handcuff us and did very gently and it was unclear. we asked for confirmation and captain johnson said, yes, we had been arrested and then seemed to have . .
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curfew was still in place. i was detained about 10:00 p.m., a couple of hours before the curfew came into place. but there is a -- not very much clarity on when's happening, degree of confusion. every night the police tactics change and sometimes difficult actually for the journalists to know exactly where they should be and for protesters to understand how to best comply with the police requirements. >> with captain johnson today saying it's very difficult for him to even identify journalists unless in his words you have a $50,000 camera, that will continue to be a difficult and ambiguous situation for press to be in, risking everything to report on the story. rob, appreciate it. >> thank you. and up next, the case against ferguson police officer darren wilson may be brought to a grand jury tomorrow. what do we know about it? a legal update after the break. huh, fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. everybody knows that. well, did you know the great wall of china wasn't always so great?
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as early as tomorrow, a missouri grand jury could begin hearing evidence in the shooting of michael brown. a spokesman for st. louis county said we're attempting to start grand jury proceedings to week. charges can be from murder 1st down to involuntary manslaughter. tough legal questions ahead. let's try to sort them off. we have kendall coffey and here in the studio is criminal defense attorney midwin charles. thank you for being here. i'll start with you, kendall. why defer to a grand jury in the first place before making an arrest? >> well, there are a couple of values to it. first of all, they can make announcement right away that they're moving. a concrete step. sending a message to the community that they're taking this case seriously. this isn't going to be avoiding it. also, may be a message to the feds that, hey, we'll ahead with this thing.
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you don't necessarily need to push us out of the way and procedural benefits to a grand jury. you get witnesses under oath so somebody's going to be committing perjury if they fail to tell the truth to the grand jury and as a tactical manner, proceeding by grand jury rather than a prosecutor simply filing information, the prosecutor doesn't have to prove probable cause if an arrest is made, the grand jury's determination itself constitutes probable cause. so there are more than a few advantages to the grand jury and i think the optics are better for all concerned. >> mid win, if they decide to drop charges, what are the next options legally? >> you mean if the grand jury returns a no true bill. >> dismisses charges, when's next? >> well in the state of missouri, that's usually where things cease. i mean, the buck stops with the grand jury proceeding. it's different here in new york depending on what the vote is. a prosecutor can still try to retry or represent that case to
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a grand jury but in missouri that isn't the case and the proceeding here is going to be very important and it's going to have a lot of weight. as you know, proceedings are incredibly secretive. the defense does not get to participate in that. it's all information provided by the prosecutor. so, the integrity of the prosecutor is key because all of this rests on, you know, how faithful this prosecutor is in getting to the bottom of what happened. >> kendall, if this makes it to trial, is this likely to be found to be reasonable force that was used by this officer? >> it's so hard to speculate. it turns on whether there's a consistent narrative of the witnesses. somebody calls into a radio show, backs up the officer's account. but that isn't testimony under oath. a benefit to proceedings and benefits feds have questioning people, because it's a pretty serious federal crime lying to the fbi, so until we have a consistent narrative from
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eyewitnesses, it's going to be very hard to know if there's going to be an ability to go beyond a reasonable doubt. there's some witnesses to support the prosecution, are there others to back up the officer's story? in terms of forensics, we have at least indications of an autopsy showing six shots fired at a distance that was not point-blank range. that by itself is something that's very valuable for prosecutors if they decide to proceed with charges. >> raises some very serious questions of whether this could possibly be reasonable force. midwin, also a separate civil rights charge that may happen. attorney general eric holder arriving tomorrow in the community, part of the charge is overseeing that investigation. do you think that's likely to result in additional civil rights charges? >> we have to see. it's a good thing that the federal government decided to step in. it sends the message they're monitoring this. they don't have necessarily that much comfort of what's happening in ferguson but michael brown has a civil right to walk down that street and not be harassed by the cops so i think it's
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important that the federal government is involved here and we may see some civil charges here, depending on what additional evidence exists that we're not aware of. >> even if the grand jurydismis could still see a civil rights charge pursuit, correct? >> yes, yes. >> thank you so much. appreciate it. >> thanks for including us. >> next, an update from ferguson. don't go away. what if there was a credit card where the reward was that new car smell and the freedom of the open road? a card that gave you that "i'm 16 and just got my first car" feeling. presenting the buypower card from capital one. redeem earnings toward part or even all of a new chevrolet, buick, gmc or cadillac - with no limits. so every time you use it, you're not just shopping for goods. you're shopping for something great. learn more at buypowercard.com so i get invited to quite a few family gatherings.
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welcome back, everybody. things are still developing fast in ferguson. police and protesters, of course, looking ahead to another night of possible unrest in that community. and they're awaiting the arrival of eric holder tomorrow. the highest ranked official from washington to go there yet. let's get the latest from that community now. msnbc.com's amanda sacuma is there. thank you so much. first off, captain ron johnson has called for peaceful protests in the daytime and for people to
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stay at home at night. it your sense that people are listening to that? >> you know, we already have crowds starting to gather here along the streets. small crowds doing as the standing orders say, to remain off the street and marching along the sidewalk. and that is how it continued throughout yesterday and on into the evening. but around 10:00 p.m., that's when things started to turn. and that's been the story so far here. as nightfall comes, we see more crowds coming in that are not our regular daytime protesters who are part of this mainline protest, but rather the crowd gets increasingly younger and increasingly more rowdy as the night continues. >> amanda, how is holder's upcoming visit being received? >> you know, many residents and observers here from the protesters to the attorneys representing the brown family have been calling for the federal government to come and step in. and it pins into this underlying sense of mistrust with the local
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law enforcement here. they're wanting to see the feds come in and seek justice for this case because they want to hand it on. >> amanda, appreciate your reporting there. >> thank you. >> that wraps things up for today's "rf daily." thank you all at home for joining me. now it's time for "the reid report." my colleague joy reid, you've got a lot coming up. >> a lot going on. thanks very much. coming up next on "the reid report," complete coverage of the michael brown shooting and the fallout. we'll have live reports on the ground, including from one of the protesters who's trying to keep the peace. we'll ask our legal experts about the latest in the police investigation. and as critics weigh in on president obama's involvement in ferguson, we'll get reactions from two people close to the commander in chief. "the reid report" is next. when we're having this much fun, why quit? and bounty has no quit in it either. it's two times more absorbent than the leading ordinary brand. and then stays strong, so you can use less. watch how one sheet of bounty keeps working,
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try to reach out and bridge that gap. but in ferguson, as we've become more african-american, we've focused on the things that unite us and not the things that divide us. >> we're going to let the legal system work itself out. >> justice will restore the peace. >> we need to keep the focus on michael brown jr. >> hello, everyone. i'm joy reid. on this tuesday edition of "the reid report," we're covering all the latest developments in ferguson, missouri. throughout the hour. and let's get right away to what we know. at this hour, authorities are asking peaceful protesters to demonstrate during daylight hours only. this after the national guard presence last night failed to quell another round of flare-ups that sparked another night of tear gas, flash grenades, and nearly 80 arrests. as a result of the continued unrest, the entire first week of classes at the ferguson school district have been canceled. we now know a federal autopsy of michael brown's body has been completed. and in the next 24 hours, the nation's top cop, attorney general eric holder, will be in ferguson to oversee the fbi's investigation. meanwhile, as calls increase to
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replace the local prosecutor, a 12-member grand jury could begin hearing evidence as early as tomorrow. and ten days after the fatal shooting of unarmed teen michael brown, the officer who shot and killed him, darren wilson, is still on paid administrative leave. still, a number of questions remain unanswered, including, will the state-imposed curfew remain lift tonight? who are the people throwing molotov cocktails and firing shots in the streets of ferguson? and what, if anything, can calm the tensions in ferguson? joining me now from the st. louis suburb of ferguson, missouri, is msnbc's chris hayes. chris, you had quite a night last night. things really, again, got out of hand. i want to show a little bit of what you experienced on the streets of ferguson last night. take a look. >> we've been out here since the live show at 7:00 p.m. central. and -- whoa, whoa. >> hey, hey, hey. watch