motion. you have to have some level of confidence that this is moving forward. i hope you will pray tonight, too, that there is not going to be any violence and hopefully this will all end soon. that's "the ed show." i'm ed schultz. "politics nation" with reverend al sharpton starts now. good evening. >> good evening, ed. thanks for tuning in. breaking news tonight. a new phase of the investigation into michael brown's death begins. according to the washington post, st. louis county prosecuting attorney bob mcculloch plans to present evidence to a grand jury tomorrow to consider charges against officer darren wilson who shot michael brown last saturday. also tomorrow, attorney general eric holder will travel to ferguson where he will meet with fbi agents and prosecutors from the justice department.

there are some 40 fbi agents on the ground. they have interviewed more than 200 people. clearly the attorney general isn't waiting for results from the local investigation to try to figure out what happened. law enforcement sources also confirm to nbc news today that a federal autopsy on michael brown's body is complete. today in nearby st. louis, another fatal police shooting. the st. louis police chief says two officers shot a 23-year-old african-american man affidavter brandished a knife at him. he says the officers drew their weapons after they told the man to drop the knife and he didn't do so. this new incident appears unrelated to the ferguson protest. it drew a crowd saying hands up, don't shoot. alderman antonio french who has

been a frequent presence at the ferguson protest spoke to the crowd. >> the last thing we need is violence in our neighborhood. >> we know our rights. >> you know your rights, i know them, too. i will make sure this man's rights are recognized, too. we'll find out what happened. >> it's unrelated to michael brown. clear areally struck a nerve with the community demanding justice. piercing through all of this is the voice of a grieving mother who will bury her son on monday. >> ms. mcspadden, what will bring peace to the streets of ferguson? >> justice. justice will bring peace, i believe. >> only if that justice results in the arrest and charges being filed against officer wilson? is that what it's going to take? >> yes.

him being arrested. charges being filed in the prosecution. him being held accountable for what he did. >> will there be an arrest? and what is it like under ground right now? joining me now from ferguson are msnbc.com's tremaine lee and missouri state representative courtney alan curtis whose district includes most of ferguson. thank you for being here. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> michael brown's mother says arresting officer wilson would bring calm to ferguson. is that what you hear from proare testers and people on the street? >> most certainly. people on the street are saying they want a number of things. they want to be heard. all the past grievances that involved the police. when it comes to michael brown's case they want a clear and transparent investigation. a step beyond that, they want an arrest and prosecution. they have said for days on end

they feel michael brown was murdered and left in the street like an animal. they want answers. justice from this side of the case is nothing short of an arrest and eventual prosecution. >> all right. tremaine, hold one minute. stand by. i want to go to breaking news out of texas. governor rick perry is appearing at his arraignment on abuse of power charges. the governor was indicteded last week for trying to remove a democratic district attorney. the governor called the charges an outrageous political attack. let's listen. >> -- someone who lives up to the high standards of conduct and personal integrity. and this issue is far bigger than me. it's about the rule of law. it's about the constitution that allows not just a governor, but every citizen to speak their mind free of political

interference or legal intimidation. [ cheers and applause ] this indictment is nothing short of an attack on the constitutional powers of the office of governor. there are important fundamental issues at stake. i will not allow this attack on our system of government to stand. [ applause ] i'm going to fight this injustice with every fiber of my being. and we will prevail. [ cheers and applause ] and we'll prevail because we are standing for the rule of law.

>> that is governor rick perry going inside to be booked. he was indicted for trying to remove a democratic district attorney. he has said from the beginning this is political. and bogus and will not stand, but it may have political implications since he has been widely expected to run for president again in 2016. again, he's going into the courthouse where he is to be booked on an indictment for trying to remove a democratic district attorney charged with abuse of power among other things. let's go back to ferguson. we are talking with, of course, representative courtney alan curtis and tremaine lee. representative curtis, i was talking with tremaine about the

arrest, the mother saying this morning she wants an arrest. tremaine saying people there saying they want a fair and even investigation and that there is probable cause there. is that what you are hearing? how do you react to what the mother said this morning? >> obviously we want what the mother wants as well. it's going further as of otay. there are 24,000 wards within the city of ferguson. they are actually calling on the mayor now to recall or get rid of those wards because of the over enforcement of the law in ferguson. even outside of that, they are asking for conviction. not just arrest and prosecution. now people are calling for conviction just because the communication hasn't come out the way they wanted to. now the list of demands is growing. >> tremaine, there are a lot of things about the shooting and the officer darren wilson that

we don't know. questions like where is he, has he been questioned, why did he shoot, how many times did he shoot, will he be charged. would it help calm ferguson if these questions were answered? >> most certainly, rev. the longer authorities and officials wait to release this information, you're going to continue to see the kind of twirling of the rumor mill. we already know emotions are at a fever pitch. people are angry. of course as we believe the latest shooting incident in st. louis has nothing to do with this case. it fans the flames of people who say police and law enforcement officials have been so heavy-handed, particularly in the black community. until we get the answers, particularly how many times did the officer fire? some of the ballistic evidence that corroborates with the witnesses. people in this community aren't going to be happy. it is calm now. the police have done a pretty great job neutralizing the

streets. they have blocked off one end and have a checkpoint at the other. tonight we'll see again if anger and if all the emotions we have seen un-furling into violence. >> in my visits with with the family and the churches, i keep hearing people saying there is no transparency. nobody is coming forward. how in that atmosphere, representative curtis, can you expect people to find any level of trust when they are being told nothing. >> we absolutely can't operate in this environment. even outside of that, nobody knows what the investigative process is. i, myself and others have personally asked for individuals to release what the investigative process looks like to at least provide the public some information so they know what to expect or what actions have to take place before they

can get to what they are looking for. we have yet to see it come out. mcculloch hasn't said there is a time frame. at least release the information with regard to the investigative process. >> one of the things that's interesting also is that there are some officials down there that deny there is a racial divide at all. you know, the mayor, james knowles spoke with my colleague tamron hall. this is what he said earlier today. listen. >> there is not a racial divide in the city of ferguson. >> according to whom? is that your perspective or do you believe that's the perspective of african-americans in your community? >> that's the perspective of all residents in the city, absolutely. >> not a racial divide. do you think he's listening to his constituents, to the people you talked to since you have been down there? >> i think it's one thing to say

there is no racial undertone here. in practice, it's almost like an apartheid state. when you look at the school board not a single african-american on the school board yet the community is 70% african-american. you have three black police officers. you talk about the opportunity. young people feel there are none. the schools, many are failing. the state is embroiled in controversy about a transfer program. while he says it, he's probably listened to his constituents. there is a great article in the new republic are where they polled white folks in st. louis and how people talk about what's happening in the community. it's the people themselves destroying their community and the coded language. so there are clear issues here. i don't know if he's trying to do a p.r. move or what. clearly black folks in this community feel it is a long and terrible history here. >> representative, do you and others of your colleagues -- well, not that many in that area.

but that serve in elected office that are black feel there is no racial divide there in ferguson as the mayor said. >> we absolutely know there is a racial issue here. it's unfortunate. it is north county. if you look at elected offices there is a complete divide. typically when you speak of your constituency you speak of the individuals that vote. sadly, not enough of the individuals in the ferguson area vote. constituents may feel one way but citizens in the area could feel a different way. >> now, tomorrow, are tremaine, u.s. attorney general eric holder will be there and he's going to be meeting with the federal prosecutors and others tomorrow. he has an on op-ed in the st. louis post dispatch and wrote, quote, at a time when so much may seem uncertain the people of ferguson can have confidence that the justice department

intends to learn in a fair and thorough manner exactly what happened. how important is this? >> oh, it's very important. the fact that this case has climbed to the heights of our government and it's also par for the course for the attorney general and the president. they are identifying zero tolerance policy this is school. putting their finger on the school to prison pipeline. they clearly have an understanding of what particularly young black and brown people are going through. the people of the community certainly feel they have someone with an honest look putting pressure on others to put an honest and clear look at what's going on here. >> thank you both for your time tonight. >> thank you. >> coming up, more on the breaking news tonight. the grand jury sits tomorrow. what might happen behind clot h closed doors. what's happening tonight?

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tonight as protesters continue to demand answers from police about michael brown's death. 78 protesters were arrested overnight. all but three for refusal to disburse. this morning nbc's gabe rit gutierrez spoke to a few of those arrested leaving jail system they were down there. ing fitching for a reason to do something to be ready. we were the reason. they were shooting teargas from one way, telling us to go the other way. >> cops are out of control. they're treating us like we are nobody. i just want to support the cause. that kid did not deserve to die. >> ten days after michael brown was shot, protesters are still calling for justice. and the nights are tense. joining me now msnbc's chris hayes host of "all in" who's

doing an amazing job on the ground in ferguson. thanks for being here. >> you bet, rev. >> is there a specific call from the protesters for something in particular to be done? >> as far as i can tell, one of the things about the protests on the ground is they are pretty organic. it's not like there are big organizations sending a bunch of folks out here to rally and they've got printed-up signs and concrete demands. to the extend the folks i have talked to have expressed demands, there's basically two. people want to see darren wilson, the officer who shot mike brown charged criminally. it's galling to them that he's on administrative leave so he's paid now. that's come up in a lot of conversations with folks. they are upset. they feel he's basically on vacation. number two, there are a lot of people who don't trust that the

county prosecutor who will ultimately bring charges of possible, if he chooses to indict against darren wilson, there are calls from stater senators, state reps, county counsel to have him taken off the case. for the gov author to appoint a special prosecutor. when i talked to the governor i asked if he had the power legally to appoint a special prosecutor. he didn't answer the question. i came back to him. he basically acknowledged that he does, indeed, have the power. >> it's clear he has the power. everyone i talked to does not trust mcculloch. a lot of it is they say this the past he's not moved on the cases. many of us just want to see a fair process. a lot of them have different views around that which leads to the fact that the grand jury of

bob mcculloch starts tomorrow. he's proceeding though he's been asked to step aside. there's been no confidence expressed by large segments of the african-american community. but at the same time the federal investigation is moving forward. how can it work out, chris? >> so a few things here. first of all, federal investigation that's being conducted by the fbi on the ground here and eric holder coming, that's an investigation that could lead possibly depending on the facts found in federal civil rights charges. they can be criminal. it should be clear. charges like manslaughter, negligent homicide, first degree homicide. charges like those were they to be found. that's not something the federal government can prosecute for. it's not within their statutory jurisdiction. so the person that would bring the charges is bob mcculloch.

>> or a special prosecutor. >> that's right. in the absence of a special prosecutor if it is the case that bob mcculloch, the hope i have heard expressed is the presence of federal investigators keeps local prosecutors honest which is to say when local prosecutors know that every witness they are talking to has also given an account to the feds that they will be kept honest. they will be on their toes doing their work with more vigor and diligence knowing the work is being checked by a separate entity, that being the department of justice division of investigators now. >> they can also charge excessive force by the state as a violation of civil rights. they have leeway there. and the federal government can investigate the investigation if there is reason to believe somewhere down the line something was done wrong.

i think their presence there might suggest that it put a little more heat on everybody. let's see where it goes. chris hayes, thank you for your time and your great reporting you have been doing from ferguson. be sure to watch "all in with chris hayes" tonight at 8:00 and 11:00 eastern on msnbc. ahead, the grand jury starts tomorrow. will the officer who shot and killed michael brown be arrested? plus, the pressing question ahead of nightfall. how to maintain order without stepping on people's rights. our craig melvin rode along with the man in charge of that, captain ron johnson.

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the peaceful protest is my next guest. joining me now is a recording artist from st. louis who is using his influence in the community to rally for peace. thank you for being here tonight. >> thank you for having me. >> why did you get involved in the protest? >> i got involved because i'm from this community. the same exact streets that michael brown has walked, i have walked. the quick trip that was moved down, i have been there numerous times. this is my community. i had to do something to get involved and show people how to protest peacefully. >> what's your focus and your involvement. what experience have you had with police in this same town of ferguson? >> my focus is to give the young people an avenue to express themselves and release anger in

the right way. with the death of michael brown and the way he died we are all angry. it could have been think of us honestly. that reality strikes closer to home given the point that it happened in our own community. i'm looking to just give young people an avenue to get out here, show them how to peacefully protest and resist the cruelty of the ferguson police department. i have had many experiences with them myself. one time i was pulled over and the police officer asked me, where are the guns and where's the dope. >> wow. >> he didn't ask my name, for my driver's license. that was all he wanted to know. we are fed up being treated like this. it's st. louis county as a whole. a young man was unarmed and allegedly shot by st. louis police earlier today. >> i hear a lot of frustration about the stops over and over again. the stops, how people are stopped. they feel harassed. give us a sense of that.

you just said you went through one yourself. >> yeah. it's the culture of st. louis county. as a young black man you know you can't drive down certain streets at certain times of night. there are times you will take dachbt route or not go out that night to avoid coming in contact with different municipalities. it's a really open ended scenario. they can pull you over for virtually anything. you more tlan likely will have a ticket attached to your name which develops into a warrant. before you know it, you are in jail with murderers, rapists and killers. nothing you can do about it. >> one of the things that concerned me is that the country is not seeing a lot of the peace activities that i see with young people around ferguson. people doing positive things. large numbers of young people and older people. not getting the national

coverage. smaller numbers doing violent things which is wrong. tell us about your peace initiative. >> well, we had one of the earliest protests of peace the day that the rite riots broke . we had a peaceful sit-in started by two young guys who decided they were done praying and done singing and they wanted to take action. they walked into the middle of the street and stopped traffic. i didn't know them from a can of paint. we decided to take a stand so we blocked off traffic that night. shut down the street in front of the police department. we had a peaceful sit-in, no violence. we had people bringing food, water. we taught people how to exercise their right to assemble the right way. that didn't get immediate coverage. we weren't out blowing stuff up, acting a fool. >> are you going to be out there tonight? >> i'm out every night. >> i've got you.

>> thank you. i respect you and others that are trying to keep the peace and fight for justice at the same time. thank you so much for your time tonight. >> thank you. >> ahead, the grand jury will sit tomorrow. what might happen? will we see an arrest? our legal panel weighs in next. a almost every day, you notice a few things. like the fact that you're pretty attached to these. ok, really attached. and that's alright. because we'll text you when your package is on the way. we're even expanding sunday package delivery. yes, sunday. at the u.s. postal service, our priority is...was... and always will be...you.

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you're looking at live pictures of today's first protests on the ground in ferguson. it's peaceful. but tomorrow all eyes will be on the grand jury and the question will officer darren wilson be arrested. the wash sh news reports a grand jury will be hearing evidence tomorrow. the prosecutor's office say officer wilson will have a chance to testify about the shooting of michael brown. the world hasn't heard the account yet. in an interview not confirmed by

nbc news, a friend of wilson said she's heard his version. it appears to contradict eyewitnesses who say michael brown raised his arms and gave himself up. instead, the claim is that michael brown rushed toward the officer. >> michael takes off with his friend. they get to be about 35 feet away. you know, darren's first protocol is to pursue. so he stands up and yells, freeze. michael and his friend turn around. michael starts taunting him. oh, what are you going to do about it is this you're not going to shoot me. all of the sudden he started to bum rush him, come at him full speed. so he just started shooting and just kept coming. >> again, in this version, it alleges michael brown allegedly bum-rushed officer wilson.

but the eyewitness who saw it unfold from her balcony and who took this cell phone video is firmly disputing that account. >> no. at no time did i see him move toward that police officer. he may have taken a centimeter of oh a step forward bf he was gunned down. >> she and two other witnesses say brown had his arms raised. >> he didn't stop what he was going and stopped to turn around with his hands in the air. >> he turned and put his hands up. the police continued to shoot. >> he put his arms up to let them know he was compliant and unarmed. >> so will there be an arrest? all eyes are on the grand jury. joining me now, lisa bloom, attorney and legal analyst and prosecutor and legal analyst paul henderson. thank you for being here tonight, both of you. >> thank you, rev. >> thank you. >> lisa, what do you make of the

new narrative alleging that michael brown bum rushed the officer? >> this friend wasn't there it flies in the face of the witnesses. three witnesses who went on camera. there are two more witnesses. one who was live tweeting the event. a man named emmanuel freeman and an anonymous witness who's given an interview. out of those five, four say michael brown had his hands in the air in the universal symbol for surrender. there was no threat at that moment. at the time he was shot. i think the autopsy results that were disclosed yesterday substantiate that. there was a shot through the hand, through the forearm. in fact, i think the shot on the forearm is the most significant. most people don't stand in that position, palms forward, arms down. if you put your hands in a normal position, palms facing each otherment when you're running your arms go back and

naturally pump when you're running. that forearm shot, i think, is from behind. i don't see how the officer's story via his friend on a radio show is at all substantiated by the autopsy or the witnesses. >> paul, you have done a lot of cases. what do you think? >> one of the things i paid attention to was when they were saying it was from 35 feet away. 35 feet away is not a zone of danger for an armed officer when you're talking about an unarmed person. just to speak on one of the point that is lisa brought up, all of this information is typically presented to a grand jury because you know the standards are a little bit different than a regular court of law and a trial. you're allowed to bring in all of the hearsay evidence and all of the information. that grand jury will hear a lot of the information when they make a determination as to whether or not they are going to indict or not. that won't be the end. the prosecutor has an

independent means of making an indictment in spite of what the grand jury may say or what they suggest. >> one of the things that was interesting to me is dorian johnson, the friend of michael brown's and a witness, he told me here on "politics nation" that michael brown was first shot during the initial struggle in the police car. listen. >> right. >> after the first shot went off, i stepped back and i looked at my friend and i see the blood coming down his right arm. so i know that he was hit. when i see him, my eyes get big. he looked at me because he didn't even look at himself because he was in shock. we were both in shock from hearing the gun so close. >> if he was shot in the struggle that meant according to this person he bum rushed the cop who beat him in the struggle and he was shot? that's going to be a lot for a jury to be asked to believe.

>> it is. this is exactly why i was just saying yesterday how important it is that we get the full autopsy results so we get the gunshot are residue and we get the full chronology of when and how he may have been shot leading up to exactly what happened. now what we are getting are the second and third-hand versions from what may have happened. we still don't have the version from the officer himself defending his actions, telling us how this incident occurred. and what he's using to justify the shooting of mr. brown. >> now, lisa, assess the eyewitness testimony we have heard from about three so far. give us a general assessment of what they are saying and what the officer will have to counter if the three eyewitnesses in fact are credible. >> well, i think the three eyewitnesses are very credible, very are important. remember, every detail of the story they tell does not have to

be substantiated. eye are witnesses typically get things wrong. if we saw something now we would probably get the details wrong. that doesn't mean a person is lieg. the question is whether the essence of the story holds up with other eyewitnesses and the physical evidence. so far it does. the most shocking fact is the one that everybody seems to relate independently that mike brown had his hands up at the time he was shot and the way people tell it with the emotion in their voice, the horror in their voice is what leads them to come out publically in this scary situation and tell their story. i think that has the ring of credibility. by the way, contrast it with the officer's story that mike brown would have to be suicidal to bum rush an officer who has shot him once who was standing there with a gun. that's what we have to believe if we believe the officer's story. >> paul, i see you nodding at that. give me the response. the eyewitnesses, will they go

in front of the grand jury as early as tomorrow? >> i agree with everything that lisa is saying in all of her analysis is actually absolutely correct. one of the things is you are allowed to bring in hearsay evidence and summations of reports. a lot of the comments we are hearing played out in the media is likely to be introduced to that grand jury. i'm happy they will hear the information. i believe just as lisa said, a will the of the information seems to be corroborated with each other and with the brief autopsy report that was released from the family yesterday. so what's going to happen next is going to be really interesting over the next few days. >> we'll leave tlitment thank you both for your time tonight. >> absolutely. >> thank you. >> coming up today's first protests on the ground in ferguson.

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as we enter the tenth night since the shooting of michael brown, law enforcement is trying to strike a fine balance between calm and chaos. msnbc's craig melvin got

exclusive access to captain ron johnson as he rode along with him today. they visiteded a food mart that had repeatedly fallen victim to looting. >> this is the food mart. i want to say they have been broken into twice. since the incident. >> all of the windows are knocked out. >> yes. >> scared, you know. what can i do? it's my livelihood. >> how many times have they broken in? >> since this incident, this is the second sunday in a row. the very first sunday they got propane here. there were about 20 kids. they wiped out my merchandise. liquor, cigarettes, money, cash, everything. >> distinguishing between protesters voicing their first amendment rights and trouble makers is not easy. joining me now from ferguson is msnbc's craig melvin. thanks for being here.

>> reporter: good to see you. thank sos much for having me. i can tell you now by the way that the size of the crowd here is starting to assemble in ferguson. the size of the crowd is considerably smaller than it was last night. they are also, as you know, peaceful but they have been peaceful at this point until the sun goes down. i can tell you the crowd is smaller. they seem to be heeding captain johnson's requests that the peaceful protesters do their protesting during the day and leave the nighttime stuff to the criminal element. that's the language he used. going back -- >> let me stop you there. you spoke to the captain. he said he doesn't believe the criminal element is going anywhere. even if charges are brought forward. let me play this clip. >> people want the to know our

justice system is fair and honest in the application of justice. if charges were brought tomorrow, peaceful people, i believe, would be out herement they have been peaceful. it's not their issue. i cannot think like the criminal mind, but the criminal element will be out here as long as they know they can create havoc and cause issues. they are going to be here. they are going to be here. >> he really believes they are going to stick around. what can we expect the police to do to control this? >> that's the question i ask. as you know, every day they have tried something different. they brought in the national guard. they lifted the curfew. one thing we have seen that's worked night after night in terms of clearing the main drag are is teargas. you know, i asked captain johnson today the same question

we have been asking over and over the past ten days. is that a justifiable response? it was interesting. we went into a neighborhood. as we were talking, one of the neighbors walked up to us. he found one of the teargas containers. look at what happened next. >> we have several of those in this neighborhood. >> what is that, captain? >> teargas canister. >> do you think that our response to try to stop what we should be doing, we should be out here letting them do what they want. >> these people would be dead in the street. >> you're okay with the teargas? >> no. >> that's a little bit too much. >> the smell is going through the house. we have a newborn in the house. >> how do you confront somebody with a gun. you can't expect us to walk up to somebody with a gun. i can tell you the teargas or smoke if it makes them run away, we'd rather them run away. i would rather my eyes tear up a

little bit, maybe your eyes. i would rather them run away instead of having a gun battle. >> that's what we found. we found a community that's divided. i don't want to say 50/50 split. we talked to just as many people who said, you know what, we go too far. we have women, children here who suffered the effects. journalists as well. we talked to folks and you saw it there. they have said and continue to say night in, night out if that's what it's going to take, captain johnson, we are okay with that. >> we have a lot of people right from the area that are part of the peaceful protesters that are against the violence. also didn't want their rights taken in terms of protests. unlike what a lot of people were reporting, most of the people arrested last night were right there from missouri. they were not from other places. these are people that are right there, too.

they want their right to protest. >> yeah. captain johnson mentioned that today. rev, you have been covering this from the beginning. you hear the reports that you have lots of folks in from california, chicago. there may be some of that. captain johnson today said he didn't know whether all of that was true. but while there are some outside elements, there are some folks who have taken these protests, these largely peaceful protests at least during the daytime. they have taken these and capitalized on them. >> there is no doubt about it. there is no doubt there are some that want to protest that are right there in the area. >> yeah. they're doing it now. >> that's right. thank you for your time. and the great work you are doing down there reporting. >> thanks, revment. >> coming up, fighting for change in ferguson, turning anger into action by voting.

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empower ourselves. we cannot be like the '60s where after almost a decade of nonviolence and progress we had some violence and it led to a richard nixon becomiing president. they can use violence are against us if we don't em power ourselves in a strategic and peaceful way. thanks for watching. i'm al sharpton. "hardball" starts right now. more trouble. this is "hardball." good evening. i'm chris matthews in washington. before going to ferguson, missouri, tonight i'm obliged to deliver tragic news from abroad. tonight isis forces in syria and iraq released a video which it said shows james wright foley, an american journalist being beheaded. in the video, isis threatens