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demand for answers about the circumstances of this young man's death and a broader concern about the state of our criminal justice system. also today, a grand jury will begin hearing evidence in the case. the st. louis county prosecutor said officer darren wilson will be given the chance to testify. the president of the police union in missouri spoke with my colleague about the case. >> do you think there's been a rush to judgment here? >> i think there's definitely been a rush to judgment. i think it was irresponsible to call for vigorous prosecution. we're all for a vigorous investigation, but -- when we talk about justice. we want justice for all concerned. i'm concerned that darren wilson received due process. >> holder's arrive cool comes after a quieter night in ferguson compared to what we've seen over the past few days.
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craig melvin joins me from ferguson. let's talk about the things that happened last night and why we saw a better evening there. >> no molotov cocktails were thrown according to cops, no shots are fired according to police. there was some pepper spray this had been used. 47 arrests, tamron. there's 47 folks majority were arrested for failure to disperse, we're told. yesterday, we were told by authorities they were going to enforce different strategy. they weren't very specific about what the strategies would be. last night we saw what we thought those strategies were. one of them, for instance, perhaps trivial, perhaps small. there's military style vehicles up until last night. they had been smack in the middle of the road in the thick of it, so to speak. that was not the case last night. the military vehicles were off to the side. law enforcement, they still
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donned the shields and had the helmets. they were decked out in riot gear. they were not shoulder to shoulder sort of creating an offensive or defensive position, depending how you look at it. instead they were spread out throughout the crowd throughout the course of the evening. it appear as a if the peaceful protesters heeded the request of johnson. they protest during the daytime. the crowd last night was considerably smaller and more clergy members. a lot of clergy members talking to protesters throughout the evening. this is captain johnson sort of debriefing the situation. this is about 1:15, 2:15 early this morning. >> we saw a different dynamic. protest sizes were smaller and out earlier. we had a response of fewer incidents than the night before. there were no molotov cocktails tonight. there were no shootings.
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but a vehicle did approach a command center and pressure mth made to kill a police officer. >> last night smaller crowd, more peaceful. what remains to be seen, tamron, how it looks tonight. a lot of folks were saying it's one night. if we can string together two or three nights i think folks are going to be a lot more at ease. >> what can you tell us about the attorney general's visit there? what are we expecting? ? >> as you indicated he's expected to be in the town the next hour or two. we're told he's going to be taking time to meet with community leaders as well while here in ferguson. it's important to note that the general attorney's office wanted to make it clear he's not here by order of the president. the attorney general saw what was unfolding here on the ground and said, you know, i want to be there. i want to be in ferguson, missouri. he is here on his own accord. >> thank you, craig.
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thank you very much. >> i want to bring in john burrs. let me pick up a little bit from what craig said regarding eric holder. he's there, as he put it, on his own not at the request of the president. you have 40 fbi agents and other department officials fanning out across ferguson gathering information here. there's an article that discusses from the washington bureau they discuss some of the options that await the justice department. in it they say the most emphatic outcome the potential civil rights may be the less probable because the standard of required. what is your take on that being the least or probable according to some analysts? the reason why they say a specific intent crime you had specifically intend to commit
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the crime. i will say that crime has been prosecuted before. we certainly had it in the rodney king case. it requires you did what you did intended to do. and so that can be done. i think what the government is looking at not only the federal criminal civil rights act but the federal civil rights act, which is a different cause of action and it also looking at whether or not there's a long standing pattern and practice of discriminate contact. on plan what he wants to do is make sure all the evidence that is available is gathered so if there's any witnesses there, cooperation for the witnesses, pathology report, any ballistic testimony, term the distance that the kid was away from the officer, and what happened that the car. because that's critical. at the end of the day, not only the fed, the justice department, they have to evaluate all of
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this and determine what type of crime, if any, has been committed. he wants to get the evidence while it's fresh. i must say the district attorney's office should be doing the same thing. >> let's take it back to the state level. you have the grand jury convening. jay nixon said he would not seek the removal of the st. louis county prosecutor involved in this case. the state's attorney general said the governor doesn't have the ability to replace the attorney. only a judge can appoint a special prosecutor. many questions surrounding the decision. nevertheless, the grand jury will move forward here. this will not happen. the results won't happen overnight, correct? >> grand juries take a little bit of time. all the evidence has to be gathered. they don't meet every day. they may meet once a week. it's not uncommon to take a month or two to gather the evidence. sometime it is can be longer.
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they have a couple of hearings they have to focus on. what happened at the car and do they get a statement from the police officer? then they have to look at the physical evidence. it's important know where the ballistic evidence is. that's where the gunshot shells are and try to find out what the distance was where the young man was from the police officer. at the end of the day, you have to be able to evaluate how the bullets went into his body. if you can do that. it goes back to the pathology. there's a lot that has to be done. it can be done. in many ways it's not complicated to determine whether or not a crime has been committed here. what i would be concerned about here having done these kind of cases is whether the prosecutor in this particular area has the experience to prosecute a police officer. because they're not accustomed to doing that. they may be wonderful lawyers and prosecutorors but it's a
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different dynamic when you're prosecuting a police officer. >> why is it because the law doesn't change. it doesn't change from neighborhood to neighborhood. you're prosecuting a young black man versus a young white man. >> the law is the law but how do people interpret it. they give police officers the more benefit of the doubt. particularly what happens while on duty. a police officer is not accustomed to prosecuting police officers. the jury selection process is different. and the officers themselves are not as cooperative with the attorney's office as they normally are. and a different dynamic. you need someone who has experience doing that. even though these are good, maybe very abled prosecutors. i bet they have never really prosecuted a police officer in the very community in which the case has taken place. we have seen it in other cases. we saw it in rodney king. we see it often. >> and this d.a.'s background
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and connections to police officers and family as well as a history regarding cases with police has been brought into question to your point. i have to quickly ask about the officer. officer wilson has been given the option to testify before the grand jury. what is your thought there? >> that is a fifth amendment question. if you're the target of a grand jury, you're not required to testify. the defense lawyer who represents him has to make a decision whether he thinks the statement can be good enough to persuade the grand jury what he did was justifiable. but if he cannot do that he should not testify. we're talking about levels offed had here. you're talking about first degree, second degree, manslaughters, and if he wants to talk his way out of this, he may be trying to his way into an acquittal or into a lesser charge such as manslaughter. you have elements of all of those there. it's not a smart move necessarily to put him on. it's a gamble.
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it may not be as much as a gamble in a district where police get the benefit of the doubt. it's one the defense lawyer has to make a hard decision about. normally the defendant the target of the grand jury does not testify at the grand jury. there. >> thank you for your time. let me bring in john conyers of michigan. one of the three congressman who wrote a letter asking for a hearing on the use of excess of force saying the recent events in ferguson are, quote, deeply troubling. thank you for your time. let me get your reaction to somewhat of a better night, if that's a proper word to use, out of ferguson yesterday. >> congressman conyers, are you able to hear me, sir? >> yes. i do hear you. i think -- >> go ahead. >> i think things are moving along. i've asked the chairman of the
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house judiciary committee to consider holding hearings not to assess fault or responsibility, but to understand where deep l causes that can create other fergusons around the country. i think we can have a very important and constructive hearing in that regard. >> when you say causes that create another ferguson. what are you speaking of specifically? >> well, i'm speaking of the racial tensions that arise between aggressive police action, sometimes militarized, and the citizens of color, which cause these kinds of eruptions as is in ferguson. >> i know as pointed out you
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were concerned about the militarization of local police department. it is one of the few issues, it seems, it would have bipartisan support if congress chose to explore it more. you have rand paul speaking out against the militarization of police departments and others who have come out recently as well. what is your hope that something more than words will remedy this problem that you feel exists and many others, honest will, i at this point. i think a lot of people are surprised at the arsenal of equipment that has been sent out to rural areas, particularly and with individuals who may not be trained to use some of the equipment that should be reserved for the military >>well, it's important because they lead to reshaping attitudes. this is what we're dealing with is the racial aspect of police
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enforcement. which has sometimes been born by african-american and other minority communities than more heavily in other places. as in the spirit of us talking through these problems and probably hopefully heading off some other fergusons that might be on the horizon. ferguson isn't the only place where this kind of situation obtains where you have a majority african-american community and literally all-white police and political leadership. >> thank you, congressman. we appreciate your time. coming up islamic militants execute an american journalist in retaliation for u.s. air strikes inside iraq. the same militants vow to kill another american. we have a live report on the
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welcome back. isis militants are threatening to kill a second american journalist kidnapped in syria. it comes a day after isis released a shocking video. reportedly showing the exkulgs of james foley a freelance reporter for the usa-based news service global post. we are not showing the video due to the graphic and horrific nature. foley was killed in retaliation for america's recent air strikes against isis. foley was kidnapped on thanksgiving day in 2012. he was previously held captive for 44 days in libya. in 2011 talked about the importance of covering wars despite the dangers. >> journalism is important. without these photographs, videos we can't really tell the
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world how bad it might be. >> james foley's mother issued a family statement saying we have never been prouder of our son jim. he gave his life trying to expose the world to the suffering of the syrian people. she went to say we implore the kidnappers to spare the lives of the remaining hostages. like jim, they are innocents. joining me live is ayman mohyeld mohyeldin. we see the family referencing other hostages. we don't know how many hostages isis is holding potentially other american journalists. >> that's correct. in fact, you know, we have at least two different american journalists that are believed to be missing. right now given the fact that isis has spread between iraq and syria, it's hard to identify whether the miss journalists are inside syria now perhaps inside iraq. there are two among several other foreign journalists
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including european have been taken. it's hard to to identify who is holding them hostage. even the groups that have perhaps taken an american or foreign journalist hostage will sometimes sell them for money or ransom to other groups who may want them for different political motivations. want hostage taking business in iraq and syria has been lucrative in years. particularly when it's foreigners. the groups that may take the individuals may not necessarily be the ones that we saw yesterday in the disturbing videos, the ones that killed for political statements. >> the white house said if the video is genuine, we're apalled by the murder of an innocent american journalist. we express our deepest condolences to family and friend. foley has been held for 44 days in libya, and released. to your point, in the past, there's been negotiations, a french journalist in april other
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westerners reportedly released after ransoms were paid. foley taunt talked about these s that you know very well that it's life threatening and isis and any terrorist organization feel you could be leveraged will take that chance. >> it shows how barbaric of a group isis is. they have demonstrating they have no humanity. there are no lines for them there's no respect for any type of national standards that any kind of organization, regardless of the political motivations historically somewhat respected. keep in mind while it's extremely disturbing it's not the first isis has carried out these types of beheadings. the beheading itself is extremely common among isis and other people that it has taken hostage, local residents, people it disagreed with. these are the common tactics of the group. that's why it's drawn so much
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international condemnation and rejection. it highlights the nature of the organization that has, more than simply a new sans to iraq and syria but threatening the broader region and horrific ways. ways that we have not seen for decades. >> thank you very much. let me bring in nbc news military analyst four-star army generally barry mccaffrey. thank you for joining us. isis is threatingen to kill another american journalist if u.s. strikes in iraq continue. there is no leveraging here with this. but obviously it seems that these latest air strikes decimated eye ice in many ways to resulted to killing someone who has been held for two years. >> no question the hostages were valuable to them. there may be as many as 20 journalists missing in syria.
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as ayman said, some may have been kidnapped for randsome and sold to other terrorist groups. we have a problem. these very courageous journalists are in there. the freelance journalists who aren't backed up like a larger organization like richard engel was. we have a problem. fortunately the obama administration dialled up the pressure considerably. we're flying a lot of material into the kurds now to help give them the weapons to defend themselves, and the air strikes now some 70 odd strikes have run their captured armor off the road to irbil. things are moving in the right direction. now here the terrible murder. >> obviously this, i think, speaks to the desperation to prove that the air strikes have held and some of the other measures that you've noted in that the leadership of isis there will be no negotiations.
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that would result in the air strikes ending. if their actions continue to save this american journalist. as sad and as heartbreaking as that reality is >>well, of course, this is a deliberate policy of terror. it does have impact in the region. isis has crucified people, beheaded bodies were put on stakes, and it the iraqi army as many as three divisions took off and ran for it. abandoned their equipment. a lot of it because of the terror-filled actions of isis. >> with that said, what do you believe their motivation is. they can't possibly believe that's going to give them any leverage there. >> no, i think, again, it's keeps them center stage. i think that. we also end up with some strange
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bedfellows. our air strikes on isis in iraq are balanced by assad's syrian air force strikes on them in syria. so this is a very upside down world we're operating in now. i think the bottom line is iraq has come apart in three separate pieces, and it's unlikely it's going to be getting glued together even by the so called new premier or more inclusive government. >> thank you very much for your time. a programming note the ceo of global post will be with andrea mitchell reports. coming up attorney general eric holder will arrive in missouri within the hour. i'll talk with the naacp into the death of michael brown. intense standoff in northern illinois came to a end. one of the stories we're following an updating for you in the news around the nation. and texas governor rick
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they were proper. this indictment is fundamentally a political act that seeks to achieve at the courthouse what could not be achieved at l ballot box. >> joining me live now mark murray. let's talk about the politics of this on both sides that a texas legend may have been born with that scene yesterday and the courthouse and david axelrod and others who say the case against perry is a weak one and may be politically motivated. >> there's a lot of talk how it could end strengthening rick perry. you have conservatives that get fired up. they come to his defense, they rally around him. as you mentioned, there are a lot of legal experts and democrats who think that some of the evidence is flimsy or dubious. i'm not yet ready to get on the rick perry train. i think it's pretty damaging for him. you never, if you're a politician, even eyeing the
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presidency you never want to have the words indictment or mug shot next to your name. even in an era of lot of politicians having dirts in the closet. another thing is the timing. even if he ends up getting acquitted. that could take months. and four or five months from now the 2016 presidential race will be off and running. >>. >> to your point you want to have the words indictment. next to the story are visuals of the distinct troern's behavior, which you can put the adjective you want on the front of that. when he's standing at the news conference and you have signs and that's the counter image. images of her fighting and carrying on inside the jail, whether this takes months or not in timing to your point is significant. when you see this. what does it say about his political future if it's not the presidency? >> well, you know, the perry people have been very smart about making this a fight against the travis county
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district attorney putting out the video and putting her in a unfavorable light. it's smart politics for them. i think the question is what do the prosecutors end up having their disposal. what is some of the evidence. we haven't seen the evidence yet. what do they have that allow the grand jury to say we're going to indict rick perry. that's why the story is not over yet. >> thank you very much, mark. certainly an interesting one. the mayor of ferguson told me yesterday there is no racial divide in his community. up next i'll talk with someone who said there's dysfunction with black communities grapple with mostly white governments. plus this. >> it's hard. we just are here to support him. >> the texas father who was accused of gunning down the drunk driver who killed his two young sons. the man is now on trial. this one is our "newsnation" gut check.
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attorney general eric holder is scheduled to arrive in ferguson, missouri about a half hour from now. he'll meet with community leaders and fbi agents who have been conducting a civil rights investigation into the deadly police shooting of michael brown. ferguson was mostly calm overnight but they moved in on protest after they threw bottles at them. they did not fire tear gas. 47 people were arrested. join me now is the daily beast columnist. also with us is st. louis naacp national board of directors. thank you for joining. i want to play what the mayor of ferguson said to me around this time yesterday. we were discussing what he learned in these 10 or 11 days of conflicts between protesters and the police department there. as it relates to race here is what he said to me.
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>> there is not a racial divide in the city of ferguson. >> according to who? is that your perspective or do you believe that's the perspective of african-americans in your community? >> that the perspective of all residents in our city. absolutely. there's 22,000 residents in our community. this is affected about a half mile strip of street in our communi community. the rest of the african-americans in our community are going about their daily lives. going to our businesses, walking their dog, going to -- he went on to describe walk their dogs going to neighborhood watch meetings and saying most of the people were middle class. you wrote in ferguson and many towns like it majority african-americ african-americans -- your words and compare them to what we heard from that mayor yesterday >>well, he's the mayor. i haven't even been there. i want to stipulate that. i'll take his word to some
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extent. we know that african-american population is underrepresented on the city council and the police force. there must be some issues there. i want to make this point. >> can i cause you for a second? >> yes, you can take people number at their word. we have facts, numbers, words, eyes. i admire your kindness i'm not saying he's not an honest person and he's the mayor of the city. to say all res denltds in the city absolutely they are happy. we can use common sense. >> right. as i said, the black population is under represented on the city council and the police force. there must be a problem there. the important jurisdiction is not the city of ferguson, it's the county of st. louis. the city of ferguson is two-thirds african-american. the county of st. louis is 70% white, 23% black. it is from that population the
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county of st. louis that the jury is going to be drawn if indeed this grand jury returns an indictment against the officer. >> absolutely that is one of the questions that, you know, we've seen this in the trayvon martin case and many others. when you look at the break down of the jury and the selection pool. john, let me bring you in one of the things that reverend al sharpton brought up on sunday was the low voter turnout in the area, and your leaders only reflect you when you get out and vote. >> right. this is a big message. we're hoping this un -- it's unfortunate a young black man has been killed. it's our hope this could possibly be a tipping point for this community. as i've been over here last night talking with some of the people on the street, they're beginning to have conversations about a potential they may run
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for office. that means people are thinking forward. one thing our organization, which is aligned with other departments on the ground is through civic engainment is getting people registered to vote. i'm sure you'll see tents and tables. what we're talking directly with protesters, getting in the neighborhoods and explaining the correlation of the shooting of mike brown and why the people on the ground need to vote. why clearly the people in government are not reflecting the interests of the people that live on this end of town. and so we can't be sleeping on the job. we can't be sleeping at the wheel. people have to become politically and civically engaged. as you know the correlation to that is across the board. whether it's with the school or the fire board. there's so much connection there. >> there is, michael, back your article, which is outstanding, by the way. you talk about how the communities are grappling with white governments. you say st. louis county, when you brought up, jury will be
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likely to look sympathetically at mike brown. again, i don't want to try to present this utopian view of the world, but it is the word tragic sad, you picked your choice here that you have to make -- you have to raise the question whether a white jury can be fair if the defendant is black and maybe vice versa. you would want, if this is still a white jury they would be able to look at the facts and not have to say i've never walked in the man's shoes so i don't understand. that's something that is an ongoing race conversation in this country. why do you have to walk in my shoes to understand my journey? that's stunning to me in some cases. >> jurors are human beings. >> we all -- >> look at the evidence and do their best. i hope they do their best. yeah, this is a problem, tamron, all over the country. criminologists have addressed this. a lot of people don't know anything about this at all. if you look, say, fullton
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county, atlanta. i bet your average viewer would think is most of fullton county. it's not it's less than half. fullton is large. it has suburbs, even some farmland. when it comes to questions of criminal justice, that county has the jurisdiction from which jury pools are drawn is, frankly, pretty unfavorable to urban black accused of something. >> exactly. to your point. we have many steps now betweenen the grand jury and whenever comes out of it. i think itst a fear many people have going back to the racial makeup of whomeveredne decides justice system the fate of the officer if he's charged and the steps that happen next. that could be something that results in more hostility in that town as it heads at least for one night tamped down. >> well, it's our hope that people will remain calm. there are so many details that
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have not come out yet. but as you mentioned about the jury. as being a young 21-year-old black man in a america, i can understand where you're coming from. it's a different set of shoes you walk. i have the correlation because i'm a larger black man. i understand that intimidation that people may have felt from mike brown. there's a different set of shoes there. people don't understand what it means to be a bmw, a black man walking through st. louis especially in a community like ferguson. i don't think people across the board really understand what it means to be pulled over when you're african-american on a dark street whether you're in a black neighborhood a white or neighborhood. you ask for the badge number but officer has a gun. >> michael, i'll put you on the spot. i know, you. i don't know the break up or
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makeup of most of your friend. do you believe that, you know, some of those in your circle, for example, who have not walked in someone like john's shoes could get what happened and get what bmw means. even those in the northeast that often believe they have a different perspective than we southerners, they don't always >>well, i would like to think most of my white friends do. it doesn't meanly most white people do. >> sure. >> and that's where our problem is. as said, jurors, yes, they're supposed to be actors who just look at the evidence but they're not. >> thank you very much for your candor. i love when we talk. people should read your article. john, thank you as well for being open and regarding your feelings and where you stand. developing right now a few miles away from ferguson, we're told a crowd of several dozen protesters gathering in front of the county courthouse in the city of clayton. these are images we received in
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where the grand jury is conve convening and the michael brown shooting case. a dozen police officers have formed a line to prevent them from entering that building. our reporter on the scene said the protesters are peaceful but are yelling the refrain we've heard so much "hands up don't shoot" this is happening now if front of the courthouse. we'll keep you up-to-date on the response from police. white house said president obama will make a statement at 12:45 this afternoon. it comes after the horrific video was released by isis showing the excuse of u.s. journalist james foley. we're getting the information and we'll hear from the president 12:45 eastern time. we'll be right back. she's a die. and back when i wasn't eating right, she got me drinking boost. it's got a great taste, and it helps give me the nutrition i was missing. helping me stay more like me. [ female announcer ] boost complete nutritional drink has 26 essential vitamins and minerals, including calcium and vitamin d to support strong bones
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mone davis is the first little league ler to grace the cover of sports illustrated. the teen became the first girl to throw a shutout in world series history. and baseball's now her top sport. a humble athlete with an all-star message, to boot. >> don't let anyone stop you from doing what you like. just keep dreaming. go for it. >> joining me now is sports illustrated managing editor. chris, it's good to have you on. her top sport is basketball, but she's bringing it in baseball. tell me the conversation behind the scenes when you and your team decided to put her on the cover. >> it was really a no-brainer. last week, last friday after she shut out tennessee, it was very clear, that the moment she owned the sports conversation. maybe not all of it but a huge piece of it. that story only got bigger and the conversation only grew throughout the weekend and into
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the week. sunday night's game against nevada she's going to pitch. there was a real opportunity here. the easiest coffer to biggest ad best moment. and this is the biggest and best story at this moment. >> and that cover says it all. just her name, she's a marketer's dream. from her name, her presence. we've been looking at the cover that you guys had this summer, lebron james, drew breeze, and in the midst of this, mo'ne davis. >> those are big names. you like to drop a surprise on readers but i don't know how much of a surprise mo'ne is. >> people were surprised to see her on the cover of "si." you guys hadn't done it before. >> not only is she the first little leaguer to appear on "sports illustrated" but the youngest athlete. tracy austin was 13 years and 3
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months back in the late '70s. >> your covers and certainly the articles capture the sports world. you set the tone for what sports lovers and even those who are casual sports enthusiasts. what does she say right now about sports? what does this image and game say? >> i don't think you want to assign too much -- you don't want to get too sociological about this. we're just trying to capture a moment. she doesn't have to do anything for the rest of her athletic life and that don't diminish everything that she's accomplished at this point. it's not to say in five years she's going to be a little league baseball player. at this point in time, she's the story in sports. >> and we were talking, just quickly, we're almost out of time, about her personality and it's the adult who are all crazy over her. >> one of the thoughts about putter her on the cover, the
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kind of intuition that she can handle this. she's the calmest person in that stadium and that include as lot of adult gls congratulations on this cover that a lot of people are talking about. very smart call on your part. thank you so much for joining us. >> thanks, tamron. >> and our "news nation" gut check is up next. virtually impossible in that confined space to move to change radio frequencies. i mean it hurt. i couldn't even get up and drive let alone teach somebody and be responsible in an airplane. as a pilot that meant i was grounded. so factors like diet can negatively impact good bacteria? even if you're healthy and active. phillips digestive health support is a duo-probiotic that helps supplement good bacteria found in two parts of your digestive tract. i'm doubly impressed! phillips' digestive health. a daily probiotic.
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time now for "newsnation" gut check. a texas father is on trial for killing the father who killed his two kids. he shot and killed him after his pickup truck killed his two sons. he has pled not guilty and his attorney says he did not gill him. no weapon has been recovered, no gunshot residue was found on him. his trial started yesterday and the courtroom was so packed that he asked some supporters to
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leave to make room for the victim's family. do you think the jury should fint find him not guilty? we'll put more details of the story on our website so you can see the facts on both sides. that does it for "newsnation." up next, "andrea mitchell reports." reporter james foley was killed by islamic militants and andrea will have remarks regarding president obama's comments following that.
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testify? meanwhile, a night without tear gas and canisters. relief on both sides. >> we thank the activists and men and women of law enforcement who partnered together to make a difference. and also those citizens, not allowing criminals to amass themselves in official protests. they protested early and went home early. coming up, trayvon martin's mother sybrina fulton's mother joins us. and horrific end. isis warns that they will strike again after beheading american journalist james foley. two more u.s. strikes hit isis targets in iraq overnight. president obama is set to make a statement at this hour. foley's mother was seen today leaving her new hampshire home and heading to church. her son kidnapped twoea
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