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ebola. today he was discharged from the hospital and talked about his ordeal publicly for the first time. >> today is a miraculous day. i am thrilled to be alive, to be well and to be reunited with my family. god saved my life. a direct answer to thousands and thousands of prayers. >> we also learned late this morning that fellow missionary nancy writebol was released earlier this week. >> the medical staff here at emory is confident that the discharge from the hospital of both of these patients poses no public health threat. >> nbc's gabe gutierrez has the latest from emory university hospital in atlanta. what was involved in this decision to clear both dr. brantly and nancy writebol for release? >> hi, ronan. good afternoon. emory university hospital consulted with the cdc, the fda and a whole lot of health
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officials before undertaking this decision. and in fact, we also learned at this news conference that nancy writebol -- or just before this news conference we learned nancy writebol had been discharged on tuesday. the emory doctors were asked why she was roeleased on tuesday an why it was not disclosed to the public. writebol's family wanted privacy and doctors were so confident and stressed so much they felt this was not a public health threat that they felt they needed to respect her wishes. and that's their first priority. so it's really a remarkable day here at emory. less than three weeks ago, these patients arrived here, by all accounts, have made a stunning recovery. >> you made an important point about this not being a public health threat. that's something they emphasized in this announcement. another thing that came up, the emory doctor who treated them spoke about the experimental drugs. take a listen to that. >> an experimental gene is exactly that. they are the very first individuals to ever receive this
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agent. there is no prior experience with it and, frankly, we do not know whether it helped them, whether it made no difference foreit or if it even delayed their recovery. >> you spoke one on one with that doctor. what more did you learn? >> he reiterated that point. without a clinical trial we just don't know what this drug, zemath, which a lot of discussion has been made. the fact of the smaert the company that makes it has run out of supply. and wouldn't be widely available for quite a while. without these clinical tests we just don't know what effect if any, really, that it had on these two patients getting better. the doctors here at emory stressed the main reason for their recovery is the high standard of care that these patients were able to have here in the united states, ronan. >> a lot of questions still outstanding. gabe gutierrez from atlanta,
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appreciate that. we'll have much more on this story coming up with a drill down into the eths ethics debat especially around the experimental serum used to treat them. and around some of the tough questions as to who to give that treatment to, including the hundreds dying in west africa who aren't receiving it. stay tuned for that. first, we go over to iraq. we're now learning more about the beheading of american jornlist james foley. today the u.s. announced an investigation into his murder. take a listen to that. >> the justice department is actively pursuing justice in this case. we have an open criminal investigation. and those who would perpetrate such acts need to understand something. we have long memories, and our reach is very wide. we will not forget what happened, and people will be held accountable. one way or the other. >> meanwhile, officials in the uk are scrambling to identify foley's executioner. an isis militant who by all
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appearances had a british accent. >> this is james foley, an american citizen of your country. >> and the clock may be ticking for another american journalist. that's steven sotloff, still being held captive by isis. that video of foley's beheading ends with a threat to kill sotloff unless the u.s. stops air strikes. nbc news chief foreign correspondent richard engel joins us from near the turkey/syria border. is there any additional intelligence emerging about mr. sotloff's condition or where he's being held? >> not about sotloff in particular. we know that there are between 20 and 30 different foreign hostages. there are believed to be at least three americans and sotloff only is one of them. that they've been held for a long time. other european hostages have been sold off for ransoms,
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giving the group isis millions of dollars. u.s. -- the u.s. is a policy generally doesn't pay those ransoms. and that the militant group isis decided to kill foley after the united states began to launch air strikes in northern iraq against isis positions and against isis fighters. those air strikes are continuing, and if you believe the statement from isis, they will kill sotloff if the air strikes are not stopped. so it is certainly a very troubling situation for mr. sofloff, for his family and for the u.s. special operation forces that are still looking for them. we know there was a raid in early july that tried to rescue foley and other hostages and this was a very daring mission. it went into syria. tried to capture the hostages and bring them home but unfortunately was unsuccessful. they believe they just missed
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rescuing the hostages. they got to the location, however, a little bit late, and the hostages were no longer there. >> troubling to say the least. >> a number of recently released isis hostages say their guards were european. it also appears this was a british individual threatening foley. what can you tell us about the background of a lot of these foreign isis fighters? >> isis has gained an enormous amount of credibility and support over the last year. and really over the last six months as the group has been making enormous advances in iraq. isis now calls itself the islamic state, and it's starting to look like a state and act like a state, a brutal medieval state, but one that controls territory, one that operates across borders. and one that is governing in its own fashion and one that has hostages it believes they are prisoners of war. it's been a very attractive
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group for extremists from europe in particular to join but also from around the islamic world. especially from iraq. many iraqis have been going to join up with isis once that border melted away between iraq and syria. it is believed there are 3,000 to 4,000 europeans. many from the uk. hundreds at least. and that this group that was holding james foley was led in particular by the person on the video who is believed to be a uk national. some people called them one of three different british guards nicknamed the beatles by the hostages themselves. they are considered a very brutal, very idealistic, even more committed, according to security officials, than al qaeda was. i was told that al qaeda is dedicated. it is devoted. but sometimes in the off hours, al qaeda members would drink. they would smoke. they would do things that aren't
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necessarily consistent with al qaeda's propaganda. these groups are totally committed, totally believing that they are part of this caliphate, part of the islamic state and totally brutal. >> one thing we've been reporting on this is this emerging phenomenon of social media being a breeding ground for that foreign recruitment effort by isis. social media is also a platform for some of these demands attached to these kidnappings. what can you tell us about that? >> well, it seems that the demands were not even serious demands. they were demands for a release of an unspecified number of muslim prisoners. they were demand for 100 million euros. a demand that negotiators didn't think was credible because the number was so high. people thought that this was just an indication from the group that it really wasn't
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interested in negotiating, that it was just putting out this unrealistic demand. release muslim prisoners, pay us 100 million euros and perhaps we'll release foley. it was -- that the action to kill him was taken more once the air strikes in iraq began and that there wasn't any real serious negotiation or any serious consideration to pay 100 million euros or anything close to it. >> richard, you mentioned also a potential ask for prisoner swaps. are you hearing from any u.s. officials here concern about the precedent set by recent -- they didn't call it a prisoner swap but what appeared to be prisoner swaps like in the case of sergeant bergdahl? >> i haven't heard the sergeant bergdahl reference specifically. the taliban is a group, although extreme, that the u.s. at times feels it can negotiate with. it can sit down with them. it was a group that did run
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afghanistan. it ran it in a medieval totalitarian way but organized the country. it claims to be more reformed in some of its views, whether that's believed or not is an open question. but isis, u.s. officials think, is in a category almost by itself. it is a group that cannot be negotiated with. that, you know, usually you hear people say there's no military solutions. i hear people say that for isis, it really is a military solution. >> and certainly across the board we're a country that maintains our refusal to negotiate in cases like this, whatever the critiques that say we've made some exemptions of late. i wanted to also get your take on the latest operations on the ground. there are apparently continuing air strikes against isis. any sense of what targets may be up ahead in those strikes? >> the targets are now broad. initially, this was a very controlled operation.
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it's still a controlled operation, but initially it was very limited. each strike carefully thought out. each strike announced afterwards and explained in detail. now a military campaign is under way. there are numerous strikes. there are numerous targets. these are rolling strikes with sometimes targets of opportunity. they are looking for clusters of isis fighters. they are looking for heavy weapons. a lot of these weapons that isis stole from iraqi forces, they are u.s.-made weapons. so we are now seeing a real u.s. air campaign under way in northern iraq, not just a few limited strikes, each one authorized. we're seeing a rolling military operation. >> richard engel, always appreciate getting your take from the ground. stay safe out there. richard engel from the turkey/syria border. up next, as those american ebola patients are released from
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continue to die? it's a pretty stark contrast. take a look at this. this is what it looks like to be an american who is infected with ebola. this is what it looks like to be infected with ebola in too many cases in africa. who should receive this treatment and who should be tasked with making those life and death decisions? joining me to discuss, dr. nancy cass from johns hopkins who wrote about this ethics debate in the annals of internal medicine. i want to talk about this decision today to discharge dr. kent brantly and earlier to discharge nancy writebol. how delicate of a decision is that for the team of doctors. what was likely involved? >> my guess is what they had to determine was whether there was any chance that these two americans were contagious. we have to assume that they used all measures possible to determine that, and they were
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squarely saying that there was no chance that these two americans were infectious to others, including their families with whom they are presumably going to have very clois contact. >> and they did go to great lengths to emphasize again and again they are no longer infectious, no longer an ebola presence in their blood stream. you've been looking at the ethsical implications. you highlighted three big questions. should the two americans have been lifted out of liberia when others were not? should they have been given this highly experimental treatment and if treating them was appropriate, should the hundreds of africans with ebola also be treated? how risky to give them that experimental serum that hadn't been tested on humans? >> well, nobody knew how risky. it is highly unusual to ever give an experimental treatment to a human that has never been tested with any human beings before. usually we test drugs even with a few humans to make sure the drug doesn't have some kind of very crazy side effect. i'm guessing that it was only
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because so many experts were able to weigh in on the decision and because these two people were so well informed to be able to make that kind of decision, that this kind of situation was even considered. >> of course, these other moral questions about just who gets treated and in their case, not just the treatment but the fact they were airlifted out of this situation where so many were dying, take a look at what's happening in liberia right now. we've got footage of people in that country being quarantined in slums by the police. a lot of very brutal attacks an those people happening. people trying to escape the slums where you have the images up for our audience. dramatic stories coming out about people who forget getting airlifted out have no access to any escape, any treatment. who gets tasked with making the decisions about how to distribute treatment? and in your view, who should be tasked with that? >> yeah, so i think that the reason these two people were airlifted out was because their
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employer, samaritan's purse, i think, really felt a responsibility to them. probably in the same way that a news agency would protect a reporter who had gott iten thei legs blown off in a war-ridden conflict. they'd bring them home. i think there is that kind of responsibility to people who not only work for them but doing the kind of service that very few doctors or humanitarian workers would agree to undertake. so i think the fact that samaritan's purse brought these two people home is not, honestly, that unusual a situation. it's a much harder question to figure out what should be happening now. and the footage in liberia with the slums is devastating. and it's real. but experimental medications are not what is going to help those people. you started the lead into this story with questions about medical inequality. and i would argue that the big challenge with ebola now is
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public health inequality. the health systems are what can really make a difference in both communicating to people what will protect them, what will keep them safe and what to do when they're sick. and then the health systems have to be able to attend to people to give them the supportive care they need. >> that seems especially to be the case with this particular virus where the treatment is so much about addressing the symptoms. dr. nancy kass, i appreciate you breaking that down for us. no one questions that it's a wonderful and important development that these two individuals got home and certainly not unusual that their employers moved mountains to do so, but it raises these very important, very troubling questions about inequality. i appreciate your work in tackling those. >> yeah, thanks so much. just ahead today, we've got a live update from ferguson coming up. and also from the people of ferguson. a voice too often not heard in national coverage of this issue. we're going to check back in with karen johnson and tydrea
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a statement moments ago asking governor jay nixon to settle this debate one way or another once and for all. saying, quote, although i strongly believe that such action would be a mistake an the part of the governor, i do urge all seeking my removal to express those demands to the governor and, as i have, see that he makes a decision to remove this office or not remove this office and end this distraction. what are you hearing from the crowds there about prosecutor mccullough? >> there is a mistrust of mccullough. we've talked about this. folks on the ground, especially in this community here in ferguson specifically. they cite two things primarily. he has a number of family members that have deep ties to law enforcement. generational ties to law enforcement. and there have also been some instances in the past that have involved police misconduct, and they do not feel -- a lot of folks do not believe mccullough has always acted in their best
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interest. all of that being said, at this point, there has been -- there's really been no real indication that governor nixon is going to remove him. we heard this morning from attorney general eric holder. he was asked specifically about the confidence that he had in mccullough. he went out of his way to really not say anything about mccullough other than the federal investigation is going to be independent and fair. so that's the latest on the back and forth between mccullough and the governor's office. me meanwhile, on the streets in ferguson, there's a remarkable difference between today and yesterday. we have seen and i've counted them. there have been so few. about 14 protesters this morning. you can probably hear behind me nothing. that's rare. every day about this time -- >> finally some quiet. do you expect the quiet there to hold, craig? >> it's too early to tell. last night, six arrests compared to monday night when there were
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more than 70 arrests. a tremendous difference there. but law enforcement says at this point, they are optimistic at the tide has turned here in ferguson. >> craig, we have some fresh news on ferguson's trying to institute some police accountability here to make sure the calm does hold. the city is now saying it's committed to raising funds for police dash and body cams. here's what some people in the community think about that proposal. >> i think it's a very feasible idea because it not only protects the residents but it protects the police as well. so people can see what's going on. >> that's total exposure. total -- everything an the taubl. everything out front. help them and probably help the community, too. make everyone conscious of what they are dealing with by the moment. >> are you hearing similar calls for accountability there? you've got some people from the community right there. >> i spent some time talking to a state representative this morning about this very issue. this is one of the state
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lawmakers who has talked about introducing some legislation. what we're hearing mainly is that it's a cost issue. this is what he told me this morning. he said the pushback hasn't really been because police officers on the ground here don't want these cameras attached to them but for the most part it's been cost prohibitive. there's been talk about raising the money necessary for these body cameras and dash cameras as well. >> if people at home want to help out, there's been a big response from viewers to this. our call to action has been on this all week long. a petition the white house.gov has up calling for all police around the country to wear these body cameras. it's already got more than 136,000 signatures, which is well over the $100,000 threshold we were looking for and 23,000 of those just came in since we began this call to action. so people at home, feel free to chime in if you feel committed to this. craig, you have some folks there from the community. i believe you have karen johnson
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and tytrea anderson. you can just tell the johnsons and mr. anderson -- i'm sorry, mr. johnson and ms. anderson. so many are invested in what they've told us. we'd love to get an update from them. >> they join me live. also the son here who is terribly unimpressed by live television. >> i see that. >> earlier this week, we talked to you guys. you live in the same complex. you moved in five days before the michael brown shooting. and there was some concern about whether you were going to stay or trying to get your money back. >> we have to pay $1100. it's crazy. all this stuff going on, you trying to make us pay $1100 back. it's crazy. >> you don't feel safe? >> i don't. not at all. not with my family here. not at all. i really don't feel safe at all. >> what's it been like in the neighborhood in that apartment complex specifically where the shooting happened over the past two weeks?
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>> it's been hard because i have my children there and they are seeing everything that's going on and hearing the gunshots and things. i was just really wanting to move, but i guess that's not an option for us because we don't have $1100 to move. >> ronan, we should note that we've talked to other folks who have expressed similar sentiment. folks in that neighborhood. can you imagine living in a place where there is, you know, shooting, literally. at least this week shooting every night. someone had been shot and killed in the street and you want to get out. and you can't. you just can't afford to get out. >> craig, can you ask the family there, what should the rest of america know about people living in ferguson? >> what do you want the rest of this country to know about the people who are living in
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ferguson right now? >> i want them to know that it's good people in ferguson. it's just a lot of outside people and coming in destroying the community. i never heard anything like this about ferguson. it's a good community. good place to raise your family. good school districts. good supportive community. >> and it's home. >> i was actually raised in ferguson as a young child. i lived right behind ferguson middle school. and it was really nice. i've never -- i've never heard of anything like this. >> thank you. thank you both so much. >> thank you so much. craig melvin, thank you for bringing us that story. so many of you have been so invested. we've got some tweets here. people saying what can we do to help taidria anderson and her family get out of the apartment complex? her kids need to be safe and play outside. a lot of response here. a couple of us moms are going to
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send a care package to help out, too. thanks to that concerned viewer and to so many of you. another person tweeting at you, craig. powerful interview of the young black couple there. american citizens under siege. so these are the faces of ferguson and saying that this is a good community of good people. we appreciate your bringing us that story, craig. >> thank you, ronan. up next, the threat is real and increasingly it is aimed at us. we'll talk to terrorism expert evan coleman about the american fixation of isis terrorists and what's next for the u.s. in combating them. that's after the break. don't go away. i got to be pretty good at managing my symptoms, except that managing my symptoms was all i was doing. when i finally told my doctor, he said my crohn's was not under control. he said humira is for adults like me
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scrub those graphic images th s the beheading. they showed boko haram beheading nigerians online and no one cared. but an american is beheaded and news and social media have a fit. finally, social media is a part of the crime. without twitter and youtube, isis will fall. it's at the heart of the recruitment efforts. that's something we've been looking at. should social media take don this propaganda or is that too much censorship? joining us, nbc news terrorist analyst evan coleman. good to have you back on on this subject. how have you seen this debate about social media censorship and terrorist propaganda evolve over the last 24 hours since the release of this video? >> it's been over the last few weeks. particularly over the last few days that we've seen a lot of these companies finally sit up and take notice. we're starting to see statements for instance, from twitter saying that anyone who posts images from the foley video will
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have their account removed. we're seeing an increasing number of youtube videos that have isis affiliated with them. twitter accounts affiliated with isis removed. a lot of this focus seems to be on isis and what's going an in iraq and syria. and it is a fair criticism to say why doesn't this apply to when nigerians are suffering or ordinary syrians are being killed by isis inside syria. it's a fair criticism. if we're going to do something like this, we probably have to apply this equally. and it's a reasonable point. >> do you think that u.s. law needs to shift in some way to put more of a burden on companies to police this content? >> i think the companies themselves have a responsibility to try to police this on their own. i think it's in their interest to police it because i don't think that they want more legislation. and i don't think necessarily more legislation will necessarily be helpful. what i'm hoping is that these companies take this responsibility on their own because we have seen what
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happens when congress starts dealing with these issues and it's never pretty. and if these companies do it seriously, i think they have a better chance of scrubbing this material on their own without government interference. look at what's happened with some of the services that have rejected this content. basically what's happened is jihadist groups have stopped posting to them. they've moved on to others. a new service join diaspora. they made an effort to tus to disseminate videos. the accounts were removed almost immediately. they've stopped. it's that kind of effort we'll see progress on. >> you mentioned room for companies to take initiative themselves. there's a "washington post" article i wrote about this a couple weeks ago. very controversial at the time. certain lie a large outpouring of support for companies doing more an this since it's so instrumental. but also a lot of people very concerned about the free speech issues which i hope i addressed fairly. you were quoted extensively in that piece and you got some responses from these companies. >> we've heard from these companies.
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they are eager to try to take an this and eager to understand more about what the problem is. the dynamics of radicalization online. i think these companies admit that they don't know all that much about it, and i think they admit they need to put more focus into it. they are just starting. there's a lot of work to be done. it's fair -- the fair criticism to say a lot of this is over the murder of one american whereas all these atrocities portrayed on youtube and twitter and facebook, why hasn't that been enough to spur action. let's hope this is an opportunity for that. but look, again, i think there are valid free speech concerns. that's why it's so essential the companies take this an themselves and not let congress step in and start using legal mt methods to get into this. >> you have had conversations with google, with youtube. i've had conversations with them myself. it will be interesting to see what happens there. certainly twitter, you mentioned that dick costola statement. we've been actively suspending accounts as we find them related
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to this graphic imagery. so there's some hope there things will change. right now it's something of a wild west. >> look, it's been a problem. and it's kind of sad the idea that isis is using internet technology built by u.s. companies with u.s. taxpayer machine in some cases to -- as a giant televised mechanism to broadcast out their hateful propaganda. and the idea that this is orchestrated statecraft that's being funded by american companies is very difficult to digest, i think, for a lot of americans. whatever we can do to try to curb that is a good thing. >> social media as the platform but the fundamental incentives to kidnap individuals, to commit these acts of brutality, predates that by a long, long time. let's talk about those incentives right now. obviously, the u.s. as a matter of policy doesn't negotiate with terrorists. doesn't pay ransoms. european countries do. and, of course, in recent months we did see a prisoner swap for bowe bergdahl, not something the
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government called a prisoner swap but widely reported in that way and certainly appearing to be exactly that. do you think that puts the u.s. in an awkward position in terms of encouragement of these groups that commit these groups? >> it puts with the u.s. and uk government in an awkward position. both of these government resfuse to negotiate and refuse to pay ransoms. what we see in west africa and northwest africa is expectly that. you've seen europeans come in and bargain out their hostages with ransoms. and as a result, americans and britons who are taken are used as fodder in videos and really, to try to induce europeans to pay more money. they are killed to try to intimidate europeans to pay more in ransoms. they shouldn't be paying ransoms. it doesn't help the situation. all it does is encourage these groups to take more hostages. and that's the problem. i understand the dilemma these families have. it's a tremendous burden to deal with and i feel very sorry for them but i don't think we should encourage these groups to take more hostages in the future
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because that's justice more families that have to go through this in the end. >> it is heartbreaking. we all understand the reason yes we ourselves would want the ransom paid but we have a situation where they have the platform in terms of wild west of social media and where they have the incentives because of these countries negotiating. evan coleman, stick around. i want to broaden out and look at the tactical picture here. an interesting face of the fighters that we're relying on on the ground that i haven't actually seen yet. take a look at this. they are mothers, sisters, daughters. again, something we haven't seen a lot of before, but they are on the front lines in the fight against isis. we take you to basic training in kurdistan. [guy] i know what you're thinking-
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. we have some breaking news this moment. an update from ferguson. the governor of missouri coming out and saying asking to see
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improvement the systematic process from withdrawing from the city of ferguson. the most calm night that we've seen in the past week overnight. we'll see if that holds and we'll keep track for all of you. elsewhere, chaos continues in the news today. in northern iraq, the united states military is continuing its round of air strikes against isis militants. at the same time, u.s. jets are droppi dropping leaflets on the city of mosul. they've urged to take up arms against the third largest city. but there is one group that doesn't need any urging. that is the all female insurgent of peshmerga. they are mothers, daughters. thanks to our partnership with provocative, we're going to take you to the front line to meet this crack unit of female
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fighters. >> translator: i'm a sniper. in the other day in kirkuk i begged to kill isis fighters. i'm a colonel at work with the peshmerga. when i go home, i'm a wife and mother. >> we train for battle. we have intensive training to fight alongside our brothers. we train on how to defend ourselves and how to use weapons. >> translator: it is our
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responsibility to defend alongside our brothers. there is no difference between men and women on the battlefield. >> i'm not afraid of isis. i'm ready to sacrifice myself for my country. >> isis fighters are bar bear generals. they terrify people and want to take over the whole world. not just kurdistan and iraq. i know how to use an ak-47. the rpg as well. i would be very happy to kill isis. >> translator: i am managing director of this brigade. i will take women into battle with me in sinjar. they fight alongside us on the front lines. the women have been trained on all weapons. women are tougher than men
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sometimes. >> we will fight them until we die. we will defend kurdistan until our last breath. >> thanks for vocativ for giving us that report. there are reports of female combat units coming in from turkey to fight on the front lines alongside isis. we have a quote from them. the jihad dist don't like fighting women because if they are killed by a female, they think they went go to heaven. but you actually have been finding information about isis' use of women as well? >> the irony is that isis is a group that is not a proponent of female rights. this is a group that is trying to recruit women as fighters as well. and it's not just fighters from syria and iraq. you had a 19-year-old from colorado, shannon conley who was going to join isis and become a fighter, if necessary. we've seen training camps
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involving all female fighters involving isis. this group with this ideology, and yet they, too, have female fighters. >> it's really striking on both sides of this. evan, appreciate your insights, as always. >> thank you very much. that wraps things up on ""ronan farrow daily."" it's time now for "the reid report" with my colleague, joy reid. >> breaking news out of ferguson. then, more information on the failed attempt to rescue american journalist james foley. and just hours ago, recovered ebola patient dr. kent brantly walked out of an atlanta hospital. "the reid report" is next. she inspires you.
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i'm joy reid and this is "the reid report." tensions are running high in ferguson despite another night of calm. >> our investigation will be fair. >> everybody calls for justice. we're for justice, too. >> it will be thorough and it will be independent. >> we want people to just wait until the facts are in. >> people are angry, they are frustrated, and they want answers. >> while so much else may be uncertain, this attorney general and this department of justice stands with the people of ferguson. >> we continue our coverage with reports on the ground and a look at the tangled political history of ferguson. then, what we know now about the failed rescue attempt to save james foley before he was killed by isis. and two american ebola patients have been elisreleasedm the hospital but the crisis in africa is getting worse. first, in ferguson, governor
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jay nixon has ordered the national guard to begin withdrawing. attorney general eric holder reconfirmed his commitment to justice in ferguson. after a night of mostly peaceful protests, new questions about how long the calm will last. outside the clayton county courthouse, the grand jury will decide the fate of officer darren wilson. protests rallied and scuffled with authorities while trying to deliver a petition, calling for st. louis county prosecutor bob mcculloch to step down from the case. >> it's our first amendment right. i'm an elected official. i'm a senator for the state of missouri. how dare you tell me i can't -- >> ma'am, ma'am -- >> it's a pub electric building. it's a public building! >> meanwhile, back in washington today, attorney