p.m. eastern. "the ed show" is coming up next. good evening, americans. welcome to "the ed show" live from new york. let's get to work! ♪ ♪ >> also we hear today that officer wilson has an orbital blowout fracture of his eye socket and was he beaten severely by michael brown. >> the the orbital eye socket that was fractured and was nearly beaten unconscious. >> the source tells us pretty much crushed his eye socket. >> they've not been able to confirm that. >> the information coming from at gateway pundit. >> a well-placed source tells fobbing news.com. >> according to multiple reports. >> the source tells us. >> it has been reported -- >> we also hear a source telling fox news exclusively the only reporting the alleged injury to demonstrate that there will be much more to come in this case. >> does he not know that this

officer a broken osh bittal eye socket. >> the source -- >> the source in the story tells us -- ♪ ♪ >> good to have you with us today, folks. thanks for watching. we begin tonight with the evolving narrative in the shooting death of michael brown. now, a number of news websites are reporting that officer darren wilson suffered a facial injury in a confrontation with brown before the shooting. the blaze reports officer wilson was beaten nearly unconscious. nearly unconscious. "the blaze," of course, is citing fox news. what does that mean? nearly unconscious? have you ever been nearly unconscious? you lose your faculties for a little bit. you get jugged around. you've got to get it back

together again. boy, there must have been a hell of a confrontation for a guy to be nearly unconscious. fox news is reporting wilson wassed aboutly beaten and suffering severe facial injuries. what is a severe facial injury? beaten badly, what does that mean? we're playing with a lot of terms. we're fast and loose here, aren't we? fox news cites an unnamed source close to the police top brass, there's a hell of a source and it's not just conservative news doing this. now "the washington post" is in the game and they're reporting that wilson suffered a fractured eye socket. >> a fractured eye socket! in other words, he must have got the tar beaten out of him big time. the post cites unnamed family friend. what's going on here?" the washington post" reported hospital x-rays of the injury have been submitted to the st.

louis county prosecuting attorney and it will be shared with the grand jury. that's a heck of a piece of information. you mean somebody told "the washington post" that there are x-rays, that means he must have gone to the hospital and there's an injury and this information is going to be submitted to the st. louis county prosecuting attorney. did they confirm that? did they say there is a leak in the prosecuting attorney's office? abc news is in the game now. they are citing a single source close to the officer who said wilson suffered a serious facial injury. a serious facial injury. the source told abc the hospital photo of wilson's facial injury is expected to be shown to the grand jury. no evidence has been made public showing if wilson was actually injured, but we have media descriptions galore, don't we? you know, it's interesting.

the police department released this video of michael brown in the convenience store, but they refuse to release any of these pictures that show evidence that darren wilson had all these unbelievable facial injuries and eye socket torn out and everything else that's been reported? what's going on here? these news outlets as i see it are bringing forth enciting single, unnamed sources. simply in my judgment isn't enough information right now to determine if wilson was actually beaten by the victim who was shot. we simply don't know the other side of the story right now, but this hasn't stopped fox news from jumping all over this narrative in the story. we also hear today that officer wilson has an orbital blowout fracture of his eye socket. the factor has not been able to confirm that and we do not want to try this case on television.

>> the well-placed source tells fox news.com that there was a violent confrontation between michael brown and officer darren wilson moments before the 18-year-old was shot and killed. that source saying that michael brown nearly beat the officer unconscious. >> this report is based on one source, i would underscore that. >> the orbital eye socket which was fractured and was nearly beaten unconscious according now to multiple reports we have here. >> a source telling fox news exclusively that officer darren wilson was beaten badly by michael brown moments before he shot and killed brown. >> beaten badly. description of the injuries. wow! there must have been an unbelievable confrontation going on here. i mean, a big guy just railing on this cop. the earliest news report about the alleged facial injuries to officer wilson was on wednesday,

august 13th. this was four days after the shooting. ferguson police chief tom jackson allegedly told local cbs affiliate kmov that wilson was injured in the confrontation with brown. >> i was able to speak with the ferguson police chief himself and get an update on the officer involved in the mike brown shooting that happened on saturday. he confirmed to me that that officer did have injuries after whatever happened on saturday afternoon that his face was swollen from being hit. of course, this is something that news 4 will continue to follow all day. >> well, i hope so according to kmov. the only person who put their name on this story was the ferguson police chief tom jackson. jackson did not produce any photographs of to that reporter or anything to backup his statements. he doesn't have to. he's got fox news describing almost a riot.

this afternoon cnn senior social media producer tweeted officer darren wilson did not suffer a facial fracture source tells cnn cruise in ferguson. now i want to play some video from the scene of the shooting on august 9th. this video was taken right after brown was shot. it shows a number of different officers at the shooting scene. we don't know -- we don't know if this gentleman right here, we don't know if these guys around the police car. we don't know if this gam -- we don't know if they're darren wilson, but i'll bet those guys do. we need to hear from these officers at the scene. they are the only ones who would know if wilson really suffered facial injuries to his eye socket. they would know if he was badly beaten. they would know if he was almost unconscious, either that or

they're totally incompetent. here is what we do know. later today nbc news confirmed darren wilson was treated for injuries. we know wilson was taken to an area hospital. we don't know if he was admitted. it is not clear how serious the injuries were, but if you listen to bill o'reilly who is so upset about all of the coverage that he came back from vacation, but he hasn't gone to ferguson, if you listen to all of these news reports you would think that this guy was near death. he was badly beaten. he was almost unconscious. for more, let me bring in brown family attorney darryl parks and also ring of fire radio host and america's attorney mark papantonio. gentlemen, thanks for your time tonight. mr. parks, you first. what is happening in the media here?

well, they continue to distort it. it's funny you mentioned fox and they asked me about this so-called eye injury that may have taken place, and let me be the first to say that there certainly was some type of altercation within the car that happened there, but i think this is a distraction from the real situation. the real deal is that that happened in the car and michael brown ran away. this officer got out of the car and then began to shoot at him as he ran away when there was no apparent threat. so i think we have to watch him and they'll continue to throw tidbits out there of things that have nothing to do with the ultimate matter which is that he got out of the car and started to shoot. so this alleged eye injury, maybe, maybe not, who is to say? but certainly it does nothing to say that when at the time of the shooting that that threat still exists. >> does it seem to you that the conservative media is making a defense case for the officer?

>> they are. they're making a defense case, if you think about it before the grand jury. these are the kind of things that you will hear this prosecutor talk about in front of the grand jury. understand, in front of a grand jury, some of the material that he talks about may not even be admissible in trial. that's what everybody's missing here. hearsay sometimes comes in and all types of things comes before the grand jury and what bothers me the most is there's no specialest is rules for the use of deadly force that can't be sing sized down to subjective analysis. the officer's best call under the circumstances. that's what this prosecutor will be arguing to this grand jury. that's what i'm most concerned about and what this grand jury will be presented with is if this prosecutor mcculloch wants this to go away or be minimized, the presentation of the grand jury is that the prosecutor wants the case to go away and he'll do it in subtle kinds of ways and he'll tell him a struggle took place in the cabin

of the patrol car and that the area has been considered this zone of protection and that's the term they use for a police officer's patrol car. what that does add is it heightens the officer's ability to use deadly force at that point. then if there is a struggle at that point the police -- there say felony that's taken place and when that felony that takes place within that zone of protection, everything starts to escalate and those are the types of things that this prosecutor will be able to argue. these things that you're talking about, this is all extra. if you add a bad eye or you add some type of bruises that you're able to talk about. this thing then becomes something that this prosecutor almost can't mess with if he wants this case to go away. understand, these aren't news articles. it's arming him and some of the grand jury and some of the material he presents doesn't even have to be admissible in a trial. >> mr. parks, how can a man be beaten badly and how can a man be beaten and described as

almost unconscious, but yet be able to get out of the car and shoot straight? >> also, too, he didn't quite shoot straight from what we can tell from the witnesses, he did miss a lot. let me say this. the videotape, i assume you showed the tape two officers standing outside casually talking to one another and as i recall, one man had his hands on his hips and they seem to be looking around and doesn't appear to be holding his eye or in any distress and kind of waiting to see what would happen next and it doesn't appear to have any ailment, physical distress, anything of that sort that would indicate that he's having some type of medical issue. >> mr. parks, wouldn't those officers on the scene know whether their colleague had suffered an injury? they become key to the grand jury.

>> well, even better than them, though, i think the fact that we have a video is so powerful in that people get to look at him and see him for a pretty good amount of time as he stands there. so you get to judge his demeanor and his appearance for himself rather than what someone else is trying to describe to you using his own words. >> when you take a look at this videotape, it doesn't look like any of the cops are injured and we don't know if any of these police officers here are darren wilson. shouldn't federal investigators be able to get to the bottom of this quickly as to whether there was an officer on the scene who was injured and had the description of injuries that the news media is reporting? >> the best thing about having those federal investigators there is it sounds ridiculously cynical to somebody that doesn't do what i do and what daryl parks does and we say it all of the time. you have policemen that will

create testimony and they will create storylines and narratives that are so far from the truth that the only way you can do that is somehow to hold them responsible. these videos, they'll do that. the truth comes out and the truth comes out in the videos and hopefully some of the truth comes out in the forensic evidence and the most important thing about those federals being there is that it makes it more difficult for these policemen and these investigators and possibly this prosecutor to tweak a case that goes away simply because a particular witness statement is tweaked or forensics are tweaked so i'm glad to see the federals there. >> mr. parks, the release of the con va convenience store video and that was greatly critiqued by many people as far as the timing was concerned and the conservative media is willing to accept this, but they're not willing to come out and demand that these pictures, if there are pictures of wilson's injury what do you

make of that? this is selective release of information. they're out making the case and it wasn't until days after that we heard that the police officer was injured and now we can't get any pictures, but we can sure get videotape of the kid who is in the store? >> without question, ed, i think we see that they have made a decision that whatever they can do to put this victim, michael brown in a negative light they are going to do and continue to do. so we are not surprised by this strategy. it's an attempt to get away from the rally person and actor in the situation who is the officer who shot michael brown as he shot at him as michael continued to run away. now they're going to continue to try and blame the victim. i think for once we all should stand up for the victim in this case and if nothing else, to michael brown who is dead, we owe the truth and unfortunately, there are many out there who

will continue to distract from the truth that we have in this case, so we'll continue to fight for his legacy and continue to make sure the truth comes out. obviously, as we know that what there is the in the public domain does matter and we'll fight to make sure that the truth comes out. >> isn't it going to be important to talk to those other officers on the scene. that is viet will tal, is it no? >> the main thing is embrace the facts you have. if there are bruises on the police officer, so be it. embrace the defense and i'm sure darryl parks will will do the same thing and go forward with them. this case will be an uphill battle because of what the police officers and investigators do here. no question about it. >> the prosecutor is saying that this grand jury may go into mid-october. mike, why? >> well, i mean, that's their best argument is that we looked at everything. should it have to go into

mid-october? no. in fact, this prosecutor, i know you know the story, this prosecutor in the year 2000 two young men were shot 21 times as they sat in their car. they had drugs and less than 3 ounces of drugs and this prosecutor took it to the grand jury and the grand jury said that's perfectly fine. why did that happen? because this prosecutor started off with a precon seefred notion of what he wanted to do. 21 shots were fired into these young men and the grand jury comes back and said that's perfectly fine. so the problem that dwell on upons here is -- is right in front of us and that is this prosecutor and his team is already in front of the grand jury. nixon needs to man up and stop this process now because if it goes bad it will go really bad for ferguson and possibly the entire country. there are ramifications to what happens there in ferguson. >> thanks so much for your time, darryl parks and mark

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>> each night i've seen a turning point and we've been taking small steps every night. >> we are back, earlier today governor jay nixon ordered the missouri national guard to begin withdrawing from ferguson. this comes after a second night of mostly calm protests. heavy rain and lightning had protesters taking cover for part of the night. six arrests were reported overnight and there was only one reported int dent of a bottle being thrown at police.

there were some tense moments as two supporters of the police officer darren wilson marched into the crowd. according to reports, protesters gathered around them and after a water bottle was thrown, police surrounded the couple and tloef them away from the scene. as the protests dwindled, the investigation into the death of michael brown is ramping up. attorney general eric holder says the justice department will keep their focus on ferguson and law enforcement tactics even after the media moves on. >> my commitment to them is long after this tragic story no longer receives this level of attention, the justice department will continue to stand with ferguson. we will continue the conversation, this incident has sparked about the need for trust building between law enforcement officers and the communities that they serve, about the appropriate use of force and the need to ensure fair and equal treatment for everyone who comes into contact with the police. >> joining us tonight on "the ed

show," st. louis alderman, antonio french. good to have you with us. you have been down with the activities and the protests that unfolded in the recent days. what's different in the last 48 hours from what you can see? >> we've had two peaceful nights in a row. we haven't had that in a long time, and i think folks have really been fatigued from all of the violence and the conflict on the streets and they've had a couple of nights of peace. i spent most of this morning at the local library here that's been turned into a makeshift school. school has been out and classes have not been in session since this conflict has been going on so people are eager to get their kids back in school and get back to some kind of normalcy. >> did the attorney general's visit in ferguson make a difference? is this a result of his visit? >> i think it is. i think the central issue here is that people have lost faith

in the justice system and the violence you saw is that people felt they were not getting any recourse out of the local jurisdiction and out of the county jurisdiction and i think it does make a difference to have the federal government take an interest and to have the attorney general come here is that it is at the top of the priority list. >> what is the response of some of the reporting that's going on saying that there was an eye socket theory of an injury that the officer was badly beaten and that he was nearly unconscious. >> yeah. you know, i think that one of the really missteps in this whole thing is how the local authorities have slowly released information at their convenience which is really at times seemed to incite more conflicts. if that is true they should

release more pictures and at the end of the day we have to start the process of justice and go to trial. we continue to call on the governor to remove the local county prosecutor who has taken this -- this long step of calling in a grand jury that he now says may last until october and frankly, for those of us on the ground it will be tough to keep the peace until october. >> you think it's going to be hard to keep the peace until mid-october because that's what the prosecutor said. that's how long this grand jury process will take place? do you think it will be hard to control people that long? >> i do, and i don't think it's necessary. i think there was at least enough evidence just that's been released to the have warranted him to give an indictment and start the process of a trial which is not at all to pre-determine the officer's guilt, but there should be a trial, and let the jury decide

and that's what the people want and for them to drag this on until october, he's endangering public safety and i don't think he really has a handle on what the situation is down here. it's going to be very tough to keep everybody calm until october. >> close to 30,000 signatures have been delivered in the petition to remove this prosecutor and do you think that that has had any impact at all on the governor? >> i hope so, and i know that he has said that he would not replace mr. mcculloch, but i really hope that he reconsiders that. >> now that the grand jury is under way it would seem like he would not replace the prosecutor. i mean, now that the grand jury has begun its process. well, even the county prosecutor went on local radio here yesterday and said if the governor is going to do it he neds to do it sooner than later and i agree with it. the governor needs to do it sooner than later.

>> good to have you with us, tonight, mr. french. i appreciate your time. i hope the healing continues. it looks like we're in the right direction. i know the weather there is playing a big factor. give us an idea what kind of weekend you think it's going to be these protests in triple digit temperatures that are expected over the weekend? >> yeah. it is very hot right here, right now, but what we're trying to do is now that we have some peace we're trying to start the process of healing. we started a group called heal, and we're starting a storefront on west lawson, kind of ground zero and we'll register everybody in ferguson that we can and try to get them active politically because that's ultimately what's going to solve these problems out here. >> the city alderman from st. louis, antonio french. thanks for joining us tonight. coming up, new air strikes in iraq despite threats from isis. plus, in a time of crisis, president obama's critics call out the fashion police.

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they are truth benders. our next question is from harry and wants to know that why hasn't the man on the overpass been arrested for pointing a weapon at federal agents during the bundy standoff? oh, yeah. okay. that's the picture. let me tell you something, we've had more response to this picture. this is very troubling to people. this guy is not in an official capacity. he's an american citizen with a firearm and he has somebody out here, we don't know who, but he has somebody in the crosshairs. i don't know if he's breaking the law or not. i don't know the fef neve law on this. i don't know the federal law on this, but don't you think it's rather unusual that an american citizen would be so motivated to take his firearm and line up and put somebody in the crosshairs, for what? who the hell is he? certainly not a person in authority. a lot more coming up on "the ed show." stay with us.

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show." isis called the brutal murder of american journalist jim foley a retaliation for the air strikes in iraq. isis demanded air strikes stop or steven sotloff, another american journalist, would be killed. until the air strikes began last month isis had a very different demand, a ransom payment of $100 million euros or roughly $132 million. the united states refused to pay following the policy of not making concessions to terrorists and not paying ransoms. however, u.s. officials tell us nbc news -- tell nbc news president obama did authorize a rescue mission earlier this summer. u.s. troops were sent in to syria in an attempt to retrieve foley and other american hostages held by isis militants. u.s. fighter jets provided cover for special operation forces and helicopters as they swarmed the compound in syria. intelligence agencies believed

they had identified the location where the hostages were being held, special opes engaged in a gun battle with isis forces and quickly determined the hostages were not actually there. on wednesday, president obama said the united states would be relentless against isis in the wake of foley's murder. that same day, u.s. military announced 14 more air strikeses in northern iraq. officials say the military is now considering sending an additional 300 troops to the region. isis committed a barbaric act of terrorism against an american citizen and certainly we have an obligation to see that justice is done, but many are wondering just what this means moving forward in iraq, more troops and what will the air strikes do? and what kind of involvement will congress have on this? i am joined by kongwoman bacong barbara lee. i appreciate your time tonight.

in the wake of a beheading of an american journalist and a threat to do it a ge, what do you see is the proper response here and the handling of the situation? >> ed, certainly, this brutal and barbaric murder of mr. foley really demonstrates just how dangerous isis is and first, my thoughts, prayers and my sympathy go out to mr. foley's family and friends. this is something that is mind boggling and heartbreaking to the entire world, really. i think what we need to really realize, ed is many of us supported limited and targeted air strikes to prevent genocide and to protect the united states personnel in iraq. any further military escalation, i believe, and i know congressman mcgovern, congressman jones, we passed a resolution last month saying that any escalation of military activity should be brought to congress and we should engage in

a full debate and a vote. there are many of us, i voted against the 2001 authorization. this was right after the horrific events of 9/11. >> yeah. >> that was a blank check that gave authority to any president to use force in perpetuity forever unless we go back and repeal that. i firmly believe that we need to repeal these authorizations and go back to the drawing board with the most current information and let congress decide. we have a constitutional responsiblility to do that. >> it's documented that isis has committed atrocitieatrocities p that of the nazis and no question that isis is going to kill more people if we don't intervene here in a big way. are you or do you agree with the president and the stepped-up air strikes that we're doing right now? >> let me say, these air strikes continue to escalate and we recognize that isis is very dangerous and the president has always said, however, that

there's no military solution and that we need to really look at how we really deal with isis in a way that makes sense and prevents further acts of genocide and further murders and killings. i believe and i think others believe that we have to have this debate in congress and we need to come up with our and the american people need to have to have their input and they're war-weary, ed and so yes, we have to figure out a real way to address isis, but we have to do this within the context of our constitutional responsibilities and duties and that means we have to have a debate and have a vote in congress with regard to any further military escalation. >> sending possibly 300 more troops is some form of escalation or would that just be considered an isolated operation in your opinion? >> in my opinion, this is further escalation. i've always said i'm very careful and cautious and

vigilant about what we call further escalation, and i think the president, though, has been very strategic and prudent in how he's handled this, but i also know we have to engage congress more. the president has under the war powers act submitted notification and he's done everything appropriately, but i also believe we're getting to that point where this is becoming a further military escalation and the american people need to have their members of congress in washington debating this and going forward with the vote. >> the united states and the united kingdom refuse to pay ransoms according to "the new york times." other european countries have paid al qaeda and its affiliates $125 million in ransom payments i guess over the last five years. what do you think should be done to address this difference in policy, this discrepancy in policy which puts american lives at a greater risk and i guess even further to the point, do

you believe that this country should pay ransom to get hostages back? >> let me first of all ransom is one tool in the tool box that the president has of all kinds of national security strategies that he may or may not use. i think it's very important that we have our policy consistent with europe and other nations in the world because if one country or two countries pay ransoms and others don't and we put americans and others in danger of being abducted and also the ransom policy, i believe, the no-ransom policy began under the bush administration and part of this was to prevent terrorists from becoming wealthy and breaking up many of their financial networks. this is a very complicated issue and it certainly has to be dealt with and addressed and the issue of ransom, i believe, will only work paying or not paying ransom if, in fact, america and our european allies are in sync and

in coordination with one policy. >> congresswoman, does it trouble you the stories coming out about how well funded and how well organized and how strong isis is? it's a threat unlike we have seen in the past and stronger thannal cade and more driven ideologically. does that trouble you and does that change the dynamic and how you view any of this? >> you just want to go to congress, it sounds like. >> i view isis as very, very dangerous. i think the attorney general, the president, everyone understands that this is a very dangerous organization, well-financed and well-funded and it's a terrorist group and we have seen what it has done. i believe the facts of isis and other groups around the world that are perpetrating this quiched of mayhem around the world, we need to have in congress a debate and zee to know the facts and we need to know what the national security threats really are to the united

states and to others and we need to know what military strikes will and will not accomplish and in fact, if there is a non-military solution, i mean, iraqis and the region have to come to gripses and i believe they're on the path now to finding political settlements to many of the very major underlying difficulties that have given rise to all of this, but i do believe that we have to recognize that isis is dangerous, they're brutal and we have to have a debate so that the american people understand what possibilities -- what the possibilities are in terms of our strategies and i'm very concerned, though, that the escalation of military strikes will insert the united states into a conflict where we may or may not need to be. >> okay. >> but any further actions should be brought to congress immediately. >> congresswoman barbara lee, thank you for your time tonight. appreciate it very much. >> up next, our friends across the street have short memories

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greta van susteren wrote i'm all for casual clothes but he's the president of the united states and talking about the beheading of an american, not the annual easter egg roll. put on a tie. fox news needs a reminder of the last commander in chief, president george bush. didn't see the need to step away from the links to talk about terrorism. >> good morning. >> good morning, mr. president. >> we must stop the terror. i call upon all thagss to do everything they can to stop these terrorist killers. thank you. now watch this drive. all right. >> so pay less attention to what president obama is wearing around his neck and start listening the to what's coming out of his mouth. the president is active in air

strikes to stop this vicious group and to stop other war. should the president put on a flight jacket when he orders an air strike? joining us now, from media matters. this is the bottom of the barrel. >> every time we talk we think it's the bottom of the barrel. this is a shallow, media theater criticism. he doesn't look right. you know, his wardrobe is wrong. this is six years in. we are talking about his vacations. do a google. every summer is the summer obama definitely shouldn't take a vacation. we go through this news cycle all the time. with fox it gets more deranged every year. how do you look at the news of a decapitation and run to your blog and talk about wardrobe? how is obama the bad guy in this story? it boggles your mind. they are so deep into contempt,

into the lecturing. he doesn't really understand tradition. he doesn't understand american patriotism. greta should be ashamed. i don't think there is a threshold over there for shame anymore. >> it's searching for just anything. >> yeah. >> to take the guy down. >> nothing to do with policy. >> we get the war on christmas every year. you know? now we get the war on vacations, i suppose. >> right. >> anything. is there anything he can do on vacation to satisfy them. hannity said he should have gone right to the situation room or the war room. >> right. >> does attire matter? >> no. >> >> no, it doesn't. >> where is the evidence in terms of the vacation debate that obama hasn't been able to meet with the advisers, doesn't have access to the intelligence he needs. of course there is no evidence that the vacation has interrupted his professional life. the only famous blunder i remember from vacation is when

george bush and his team slept walk through the intelligence warning bin laden determined to strike in the u.s. in august. that was during a five-week bush vacation. reagan took five-week summer vacations. if president obama did that. >> i don't even know. does this president play more golf than anybody else played in this position? do you think that's all the guy does is tee up every morning at the country club at 8:00? >> someone is keeping track. i know he's taken a third of the vacation time that president bush did. when president bush left office if you looked at his ranch time, vacation time and camp david time he spent over 900 days away prosecute the whouchlts talk about phoning it in. >> he had a fax machine in crawford. karen hughes coming over to work on initiatives. the fact is this president doesn't vacation anywhere near as much as previous presidents, correct? >> correct. he doesn't. the idea that he's not up to the

job and things like that. this is part of the larger fox discussion about he's really not like us. he's not like other presidents. he doesn't understand the responsibility. let's not forget. fox went all in on the birther stuff. we can connect the dots to the allegations. it's nonsense. and this contemptus theater criticism. >> who plays more golf -- president obama or george boehner, speaker of the house? >> boehner drag braged he played a hundred rounds in a year he did. >> yeah is. >> i don't think obama plays that much. unbelievable. they will come after anything they can. >> shallow, stupid stuff like neckties. come on. >> eric, good to have you with us. that's "the ed show." i'm ed schultz. "politics nation" with reverend al sharp ton starts now. good evening. >> good evening, ed. thanks to you for tuning in. tonight's lead the st. louis prosecutor versus governor

nixon. the prosecutor in charge of the michael brown investigation is raising all kinds of questions from the community on whether he can deliver a fair investigation. this comes as things seem to be calming down in ferguson today. missouri governor jay nixon today ordered the state national guard to withdraw from the city. that after what captain ron johnson called a very good night in ferguson. but passions are still running high over whether the investigation into the michael brown shooting will be fair. right now, it's up to st. louis county prosecuting attorney bob mcculloch to bring charges against darren wilson, the officer that killed mr. michael brown. grand jury is hearing evidence, but many in the community are not confident in this