>> exactly. it's way too early. >> it's like rap. >> it's way too early. what time is it? >> about 4:30 i have to wake up every morning. it's "morning joe." we have chuck todd live in new york. see you tomorrow. >> no man is an island. president obama back in washington facing a crisscross of crisis at home and abroad. most of the concerns on isis and what the u.s. plans to do to stop their spread. also happening this morning, funeral services for michael brown in st. louis. we will go there live and hear more from nbc's exclusive interview with brown's parents and the parents of trayvon martin. >> a pair of babies, a class of 94 conservative and a defense policy decision maker all weigh in on a question that a lot of

united states ask. what's wrong with washington. long time leaders on capitol hill before they head home. the series continues. good morning from new york. it's monday august 25 n, 2014. what's happening in ukraine is a serious situation that is getting overshadowed by other international news. this is my last week to host the show before moving on to a new endeavor on sundays. i will have much more to say as the week goes on. let's go to the aftermath of the earthquake in napa, california where residents are bracing for aftershocks. totalling up what could be more than a billion dollars in damages. this was not a small earthquake, folks. 6.0 magnitude quick hit outside the popular tourist town yesterday morning, rattling businesses and homes for nearly 20 seconds. the earthquake damaged over 100 buildings and ruptured water and gas lines. close to 200 people were hurt,

six critically. this was the most powerful earthquake to hit northern california since 1989. it was far more powerful than the 5.2 quick that hit back in september of 2000. nbc's richard louie has the latest on the damage. what do you know and how is clean up going and how are people coping with issues having to do with water, power, and gas? >> water, power, and gas. they are beginning that process. they believe they will have power to all the residents back by 1:00 p.m. local time. the 6.0 to give us a sense of that, it had about 30 times less energy than the 6.9 loma prieta. 7 million people in the bay area and a $50 billion industry when we look at the winery industry that contributes to our economy. that was a big deal at stake

yesterday. of course all of the buildings that were moved off the foundations as much as a foot. the fires that enveloped the mobile homes in the areas and the streets that were torn like pieces of paper. the brains at berkeley not far from napa here. they put together a warning system that gave folks a warning of just ten seconds. >> earthquake, earthquake, light shaking expected in three seconds. >> one other thing they tried to do and it's so science, they think of earthquake weather. that's what they do. when it's warmer than it is normally. it is not warmer than normal. it's a guessing game when it comes to earthquakes. >> even a 10-second warning means maybe some day they can figure out how to at least predict this with a little

better regularity. we have more developments and we will check back in during the hour. now to my first read of the morning. president obama is back from vacation, but may feel as though he never left. after two weeks repeatedly interrupted by developments overseas and in missouri. how to confront the growing threat from the group known as isis. the question is not weather the u.s. is going to act, but what the action is going to look like, particularly when they decide to go to the border. up until this point, they avoided strikes in syria where the threat originated. it's not clear how much legal authority the president had without congressional approval. it's bad optics. this is an administration that does not lock like it is backing president assad or the iranian government. both have been fighting isis in syria.

they indicated the discussion is about targets in syria. how fruitful will they be? how to hit them and how big to make the operation. they are hoping the war powers act which the president invoked will go into iraq earlier this month. you remember that he justified the iraq operations as being necessary to protect americans and provide humanitarian aid. whether that works in syria is not clear. the administration is under pressure to expand military efforts against isis. >> there is no boundary between syria and iraq. one of the key decisions the president will have to make is air power in syria. we cannot give them a base of operations and we have to help the free syrian army. >> i don't want to tell you how this needs to be done, but i reference the fact that syria will have to be part of this equation. >> we learned that iris gained

territory seizing a critical part of the country. they have control over a huge region that contains the citying as the defactor headquarters. the fact that isis makes gains in syria and iraq adds to the pressure to act. the u.s. can make the attack small enough that may be able to get it through without having to get approval from congress. the concern is that lawmakers would not approve a large scale assault given the short amount of time they will be in session. there may be a way to get around that in the short-term. congress may be willing to attack the funding to the one piece of work it has to get done and that is the budget resolution in order to make sure the government doesn't shut down. it happened once before. in 1999 when president clinton got approval for air strikes in yugoslavia, when congress attached funding to that as it

was known at the time. it's possible that congress would approve some air strikes in syria, particularly given the danger isis poses to americans. joint chief chairman martin dempsey called it an immediate threat to the united states. chick hagel said it is beyond anything we have seen. here's how michael rogers describe the threat on "meet the press." >> they see that as a winning ideology and a winning strategy and they want to be part of it. they are one plane ticket away from u.s. shores. >> we should mention there is a dispute about that talking point. according to people i have been talking to, they believe the chief goal of isis is regional power and territory. unlike al qaeda, they have hesitancy to try and build political will in this country. of course isis may be inviting a

large scale attack with its own brutality, specifically the beheading of an american journalist, james foley. >> this has been festering for the last year and now it's culminating with the killing and beheading of an american journalist which i think is a turning point for the american people. it opened their eyes to what isis really is. the true character of isis and how savage they are and their intend to harm americans. >> they now identified the man that killed mr. foley, a man believed to have come from britain. >> hundreds turned out to remember foley. there was word that another more than held by a different extremist group in syria had been released. american writer peter theo curtis was held for close to two years and after the government of qatar helped negotiate his freedom, he was handed over to peace keepers on sunday.

a small bit of good news. martha's vineyard did not provide safe haven for president obama who ended up delivering four statements while on vacation including one during his brief return to the white house last week. chief correspondents, dan, i want to start with the -- if it's august, it means it's never a slow news month. everybody thinks in washington you get to go on vacation. we know august brings on these challenges. here we are, one year ago this week, america was convinced, washington was convinced president obama was about to order air strikes against syria and then of course he decided he needed congressional approval and the will was not there and he ended up pulling back. here we are talking about air strikes in syria and it's a much different conversation. >> it is much different. the pressure and momentum building for some kind of action

is so strong at this point. i think it makes it more difficult for him to figure out what is exactly going to be the right course to follow. apparently they are moving in that direction and they have to answer the questions you have to answer any time you are proposing military operations of the potential scale and length this might involve. >> you think about an election year. we are 71 days away. the last thing john boehner, nancy pelosi and mitch mcconnell and harry reid, don't make us try to whip for votes for congressional approval of new air strikes. >> that's exactly right and the fact is that all those numbers you mentioned, they are in campaign mode. they have put this year's session behind them and were focused on the final 70 days until the election.

it's not because it was so big, but in the fall of 08, how big of a lift harp was after the economy crashed. it's not the same of course. the spector of members of congress having to take a vote to involve the u.s. yet another mideast war. polls show the country overwhelmingly is against more intervention abroad. >> it is not clear what the intervention gets you when you think of the last 25 years in some form or another. i want to go to the critiques that president obama got during his vacation. they are very familiar to the same critiques president bush got when he would take his august vacations. is this typical noise or should the white house should have been more aware of how the optics in this new media age would play out? >> i think it was a more

difficult circumstance for this administration. you're right. every president when they go away on vacation and there is a crisis that erupts gets criticism. where the president got a lot of criticism is the golf round after delivering the statement about the beheading. people thought that was too jarring and insensitive. every president faced this and every president is dealing with the crisis no where he is. last week was a tough for the president because of that specific moment. >> jonathan, it seems that these international crisis, this week will be about syria. what is he going to do? next week we will talk about russia and ukraine. he will be going to wales overseas. by the way, the day after labor day week is usually the time when people start talking about the campaign. i guess president obama and maybe a bunch of democrats are fine with this, he is not going

to be a featured player on the campaign trial if the crisis keeps him in washington. >> that's right. to your point, democrats will be okay with that. he can raise money in targeted places and moments, but obviously the demand for him to doralirallies is not what it wa. chuck, that reminds me of a point that dan made earlier this summer and a great piece. what is this election year all about? this summer has been about ferguson, missouri. it has been about syria and iraq and the ukraine. it's almost labor day and it's not clear what this fall is going to turn on. >> there is no one issue it seems that it is turning on. great way to kickoff the week. two men of the two biggest newspapers we deal with in washington. >> congrats, chuck. >> up next, weapon was war.

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. we need peace and it's going away. >> that was michael brown's father, telling craig melvin he hopes this funeral service for his son will be peaceful. that will get under way a little over an hour from now at the baptist church in st. louis. craig melvin will have more of that exclusive interview he had with brown's parents and the parents of have a von martin. i want to talk about brown's parents. they were asked to protest peacefully in the more than two weeks since a police officer shot and killed their son, michael. there were no violent clashes, these images of heavily armed officers deploying tear gas last week have prompted a white house review of the program that outfitted local police

departments with military grade equipment. during one of the grays i had, i noticed this article. dundee, michigan southwest of detroit and home of about 4,000 people and got surplus equipment. the local newspaper described how police had just 22 ton, $850,000 mines resistant ambush protected vehicle sitting in the parking lot. they got it for free. the county got $2.7 million from the military equipment since 2006. officials want to review the policy for places like monroe county and ferguson, missouri. in a statement, eric holder said this equipment flowed to forces because they were increasingly being asked to assist in counter

terrorism. the displays of force and response to mostly peaceful demonstrations can be counter productive. he he has been covering this issue for the last few weeks. good morning to you. >> it is one of the things that every local paper has done. what about the stories and finding out the local equipment. this all happened because essentially in response to 9/11 and beefing up police forces in washington, d.c. and likely a target for terrorism, they decided every police force in america should get something. the formerly forced nature and how this got out of hand. they tell thaw it didn't get out

of hand. you cover this after 9/11, we told police departments their officers were frontline soldiers on a new global war on terrorism. the homeland was a battlefield and they needed to be on the frontlines. huge new grant programs were created to provide money both for big cities and every city in town and country to apply for money to buy armored cars and bulletproof vests. obviously we had the pentagon that has the surplus program that was sending sniper rifles and silencers that they were talking about. >> it seems as though the militarization of the police forces is on one hand, you understand the fear back in 2002

and 2003. the concern there. why is it that cheyenne, wyoming and that was one of the bigger examples was getting the -- new york city will need more. you can see oust washington, chicago, and l.a. places that had to deal with this, every town in america the size of 4,000 like the one i described need this. >> chuck, if the police department doesn't have that, the states on the border was blowing up, this is what was going through them. you don't get the police in michigan and the material they need to respond to terrorist

attacks in michigan right there on the canadian border and people to come over. you could argue this is more about the police forces need to use more discretion and how they use this equipment. you are making the case in why they need it in an emergency and they need different discretion in which they deploy it. >> there is a school of thought that said they should have it and be smart about when they use it. what's significant is this is the first time which is remarkable. this is the first time this consensus opportunity and willingness and the red rock of our local counter terrorism strategy since 9/11. this is my final week. you were on the first daily run down when we had a cohost and it's good to have ow in my last

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humanitarian convoy for separatists. that convoy was pulled back. the troops remained on the border and fighting is continuing across parts of southeastern ukraine. tensions were evident in two scenes that played out in ukraine. ukrainians celebrated independence from russia. in the east, pro russian fighters mocked soldiers and parading them through the streets. joining me now the ambassador to russia. good morning to you, sir. >> thanks if are having me. >> tell me this. what is putin up to with these convoys? is this about testing to see how he can cross the boarder and how he can help the russian separatists. what is he up to? >> i don't know, but to hypothesize, a couple of things. he is showing that there is no sovereignty that ukraine controls.

he can go in and out at will. he tested the ukrainian military. he dared them to this convoy. they didn't. i think that was wise, but that was a way to slow down their offensive in the city where is this material went. and three, there reports that he used it as a ruse to allow russian soldiers to come in. there is a new report allegedly that they came in through the southeast. that may be part of a grander strategy to fight with the ukrainians to a stand still. >> every time that putin has done something and launched sanctions and he doubles down and tries something new. what's left in the sanction arsenal. >> not much. there is a couple of important

banks. obviously gas companies have avoided the sanctions lifted so far. i think the action reaction cycle of sanctions leading to disappointment and leading to pressure on putin and leading to putin to change his mind, that's something we have to measure in months if not years. i don't think that will be a way to solve this war and end this war. >> what do you expect next week's meeting to be about. if the president is going to be going to a stonia, trying to send the message, you are messing around in ukraine and don't think about going to a nato nation. >> that's it. i think it's symbolic that the president is going to a stonia first. you don't want any doubt about nato's article five commitments. that will be the main message. >> do you think putin thinks

with the united states tied down with what it's going in iraq and syria and all the other issues you deal with, they won't have the same resolve as he claims. >> i don't think he will move in militarily, but i think he will use nonmilitary means in places like lat via in particular where there lots of rugs. thoofr after the ukrainian. he will prod and test, but short of military action. >> to russia for the united states. >> chuck, good luck in the next adventure. >> i'm sure i will be seeing you a lot. >> up next, it isn't goodbye idea. we are talking off the series of

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quits, we have exit interviews to choose from. we got a few of them done. i asked them what's wrong with washington? when you say washington looks broken to me, what's broken in your view? >> we have passed i think the number yesterday was like 352 bills. out of the house of representatives, they are sitting over the senate. i was talking to a senator a couple of days ago and he said they have a freshman senator from alaska. he's in a tough campaign right now. years. he has not been able to present an amendment on the floor of the senate. >> the senate is a mess. >> we don't get that here in the house.

there members that we are not happy with on our side. there members on their side they are not happy with. at least we tried to -- baper is pretty strong on trying to work the system. >> this is a dynamic opportunity. one of the few places in the world where you can do this on beha behalf of your constituents. it closed it down and become more and more jaded. we have to say the level of maneuver ability is restricted because of the impact of outside money that can raise issues and had nothing to do with the campaign. they had to do with that issue. the reality of whether or not there is any space to discuss this. you are trounced upon. >> they have to figure out what to take back.

this is diminishing their opportunity to have the experiences they have. >> the senate does not function like they did when i came in in 2003. >> travis trend lot and tom daschle running things. >> and they got along. the main thing that is different between the house and the senate is the debate that takes place. i can remember being on the detate baits for colleagues. it was the way and you found out there differences of opinion and they really believe what they

are arguing. >> this is reflective of what's going on in the country right now. we reflect the fact that we are going through transformations. change is always disruptive. that's in a transition from what it was. something that i didn't know what it was going to be in the future. in that turmoil, the senate has in many ways ground to a halt. >> joining me now from the political director and senior agent, george w. bush contributor and chief of staff to vice presidents gore and biden. i never prodded about processes in washington and i never said is it the senate or the house.

that's talking about the process itself as to what's wrong with washington. i still felt like there was a disconnect there. >> i think the process is part of it. we have seen a lot of division in gridlock and a lot of division in the country. the answer to our problems is more democracy and we need to make it easier to get people registered to vote. to have a broader cross section of the public. the members represent narrow interest and the way districts are drawn. common sense reform would make it a bipartisan oriented place. >> that's interesting. you are an iowan and that's a

way. >> this has been decades in the making. this is part of a larger societal trend where people sort themselves and they move to neighborhoods where people act and think they they do. some of that is true. at the same time these folks are polite. nobody really wanted to say what they were thinking. that's that harry reid one day is a tough trip and is very disliked by republicans and some argue mitch mcconnell has the same view among democrats. it makes it difficult to get things done. the chief here from members is that leadership is too much in charge. they don't have the power today

that they have, leadership it too much power. >> i worked in the senate and george mitchell was a democratic leader. no question that the leadership is more powerful than that. i do think that part of that election is shortening. there is a lot of turn over and less institutional investment in the committees and fundamentally, part of this is just the division in the country making its way to washington and being reflected by the people that particularly in the house are polarized. now the country is almost like we have a parliamentary system

even though we don't. it's like they are trying to force that upon washington. >> what happens or what doesn't happen. you have nine democrats, nine republicans in districts won by the president. 17 of the opposite party and everybody acts and thinks alike in these districts and i think probably what will happen is we will see the left have their own tea party moment and at some point republicans and democrats are going to come and ask for redistricting reform. >> both sides have the system. i have to leave it there to cut it short because we have breaking news. very preliminary reports here. i want to be cautious about

that. here's the news out of ft. lee, virginia. according to the u.s. army, there is an active shooter incident going on. this is being locked down until further notice. this is all the information we have. this is an announcement by ft. lee on their facebook page sending that message out to the ft. lee community. if we have more information, we will bring it to you. the funeral service for michael brown will begin in just over an hour. people are beginning to arrive at the church. we'll go there live after the break. >> it would appear peace is being restored in ferguson. i believe the citizens have spoken for peace and i am happy for ferguson tonight.

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breaking news out of fort lee, virginia. there's word that the army in installation has been locked down. in central virginia. essentially home to the army chief think tank. it was apparently reported in a single building on the army base building 520. turning now to ferguson, missouri. the service set to begin at 11:00 eastern and thousands are expected to attend. craig melvin spoke exclusively to the parents of michael brown and trayvon martin. >> does it get easier? >> no. it doesn't get easier, but what we have done is found ways to divert the negative energy into something positive because there's going to be negative energy. >> that was trayvon martin

mother speaking exclusive to craig megavitamin that her hopes that something positive could come out the death of michael brown and trayvon martin. more than two weeks after the unarmed 18-year-old was shot and killed by a police officer in ferguson, missouri. craig melvin is in st. louis outside the church where the funeral is taking place. what was striking to me, obviously, was the role i thought trayvon martin's parents were trying to play for michael brown's parents in many ways. trying to comfort them. trying to show them that there is something you can get out of this. i tell you, it seemed like clearly could see michael brown's parents aren't there yet. >> yeah, no. not remotely close to being there. as you know, trayvon martin's parents have really sort of made it their life's work. they talked about that yesterday. but they were also giving a great deal of advise to the parents of michael brown, not

just how to deal with moving forward, but the short term. how to deal with the funeral today. you can probably see behind me hundreds of folks already wrapped around. >> how to deal with us. the invasiveness of the media. >> yes. yeah. the service is going to start about 10:00 a.m. about 4,000 people are expected to attend. you know, i also spent some time yesterday talking to the parents of michael brown about precisely how it is you go about burying a son. take a listen. >> we just talk every day. not having a conversation with my son it bothers me. seeing how he feels, what is going on in his day. seeing him in a casket today made it reality. >> i looked at him, i talked to him. i touched him. >> what is going to be the

hardest part? >> walking away. walking away from that casket. >> you know chuck, obviously the investigation is going to take some time. we know it will be at least mid october before we learn a little bit more precisely what happened on august 9th, i think we can agree that no parent should have to bury their child. we saw a mother there, obviously grief stricken. we should note that michael brown, sr., michael brown's father asked the community not to protest today. not a quiet protest, certainly not anything like we saw last a week. he wants there to be a somber tone. he wants the community to remember his son peacefully. >> as the phrase is rest in peace for a reason. today it takes on even more meaning. craig, thank you fur your coverage and the work you did last week, by the way, my friend.

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good morning. i'm jose diaz-balart. an active shooter incident reported at fort lee army base in central virginia. u.s. army officials confirming on facebook that the military was on lock down and advising military personnel to follow active shooting protocols. nbc affiliate wwbt reports officials were calling the incident a police emergency and asking everyone to stay indoors. wwbt also reporting the incident comes as the post was preparing to roll out fort lee alert. a new system to notify the community in the event of an

emergency. colonel jack jacobs joins us on the phone. nice to talk to you. what is the pot cool for an active shooter on a u.s. military base? >> the base is locked down, which is not difficult to do since there is restricted access into and out of a military post. there is some training areas which are easy to infiltrate, but they're usually typically far away from the central part of the post is and where the incident was. and in any case, fort lee doesn't have wide spread training area. it's relatively easy to lock down a military installation. then the place is isolated where the accident occurs. that's easy to do because there are quite a few military police within the installation. and the incident area is extremely easy to isolate. locking down is pretty simple to do. there's a series of protocols that reinvolve aroun