a check on the day ahead before "morning joe," and president obama addresses the national legions convention in charlotte today. last week, american legion vets wanted to season vets wanted to know more about the president's plan to vicks the v.a. rob portman is set to speak later this morning in new hampshire. this has 2016 watchers wondering if he is eyeing up a presidential run. that is going to do it on a tuesday edition of "way too early." "morning joe" starts right now. ♪ you look so much like the actor in seinfeld who played the dentist that i dated as elaine, you know? >> we actually had a kissing scene together. >> over her career, she has won five emmys and had 18 nominations. >> yeah. he was on "seinfeld." yeah.

>> good morning! >> how funny is that? all of your shareholders actually won, mika. >> yes! "breaking bad," which i love. it's not even there any more. and it's still winning. >> they just won everything! unbelievable. brian cranston. >> barnicle, you like "breaking bad." >> i do, but i think matthew mcconaughey was good in "true detective." it doesn't hurt that brian cranston got it but i hear you. >> julia louis dreyfus. it went really well. "modern family" came in big. they are still doing it. >> it's just a good show. >> there is also a moment that happened at the emmys last night with sofia vergara that some are

considering a little controversial. >> what was that? >> we will explain this later. it's actually causing controversy. i don't think it's causing any problems for you, boys. >> no. >> but we will talk about it later when we do a full breakdown of the emmys which had so many good shows, really good programming. >> what a moving, sad, tragic shot of michael brown's father. >> we will cover that in news. >> says it all. >> crying. it's just so unnatural for a father to bury his son. that's terrible. and then internationally we talked about it before. you could see this coming a mile away. the united states looking like they are about to get really tough on isis and laying the groundwork for a serious strike.

a lot of things going on. this president starting to, i think, turn the corner on facing up to the challenge of isis. he said it was like a jv team but not treating it like a jv team any more. i was reading. "the washington post" this morning. mike was talking about something is fundamentally changed with americans and the spirit of our country and maybe we have changed as a people forever. >> forever? >> i mean, i don't know. i look to the future. i'm still optimistic and i think there's good reason. i know this has been a horrible summer. we have had problems with race riots and we have had a sagging economy and we have a tumultuous world stage and seem to have little control over that but i remain stubbornly optimistic because when our leaders lead with strength and resolve, good

things will happen. think about this. a humanitarian crisis gripped a group of religious minorities in iraq a month ago. while europe sat by on their vacation from history and did nothing, it was americans and american air power that saved these people and stopped the genocide there. after receiving the tragic news of jim foley's death, that horrible, horrible tragedy, another family in massachusetts received good news that their son would be coming home after two years in captivity as an al qaeda hostage. why? because even a blood thirsty terrorist group like al qaeda has gotten the message that unlike europeans, american don't reward terrorism by paying ransom. expect the next westerner to be grabbed and targeted for kidnapping to come through france and the numbers show this and i didn't know this before the jim foley situation before

that terrible tragedy. france's negotiations with terrorists, mika, have literally bankrolled terror groups across the middle east in recent years. do you see that number, mike? 125 million dollars in ransom money has been given over to groups like al qaeda and literally european countries are bankrolling terror groups and doing what? they are encouraging them to take more terrorists. >> yeah. it's been going on for sometime. it's been going on for sometime. france, through -- we have always negotiated with terrorists in one sense or another beginning with the iran contraaffair and the early hostages in the early '80s but never so pronounced at what france has done. >> just to turn over cash and you're right. it's not to say the united states always gets it ride.

ronald reagan's negotiations with terrorists almost brought down his presidency in the 1980s and the release of bowe bergdahl. this is showing the strength and resolve the world needs it to show against isis. instead of criticizing president obama what he has done or not done the last six years, i encourage my republicans to understand he needs to stay strong and he need to make this growing terror threat look like the jv team he once said they were, and republicans who are desperate to shift the blame for iraq's chaos to this democratic president like that is going to wipe out what happened in 2003 and what we got wrong from 2003 to 2008, it's time to stop playing political games and it's time for us to look forward together. and i tell you what, mika, we need to do that because we have got tough choices to make in countries like syria where,

right now, as "wall street journal" says, we are laying groundwork there. barack obama is going to get it from the left and the right. the other 80% of us who actually put our country ahead of our political party need to work together and we need to look forward. >> syria is exactly what where we start in news. defense officials say civilian aircraft are flying over syria after president obama gave his approval over the weekend. the campaign reportedly includes manned flights and drones together on islamic state militants. the move could be seen as a sign the u.s. is preparing military action against isis in syria. however, the white house says no decision has been made. despite recent gains by militants within syria, the assad government is warning the u.s. against getting involved on that side of the border. the united states is criticizing secret air strikes that were launched against

islamic militia in libya. they say the strikes were carried out by notification by egypt and the united arab emirates. they are trying to seize the country since gadhafi was overthrown and killed. the u.s. and other european allies says it's a threat to democracy but egypt denies it. the militia gained control of tr tripoli's airport. let's bring in ayman mow held dean. >> syrian poopgs figures are welcoming the new saying about time the u.s. gets involved. they certainly want to see isis repelled and saying all along

the past several years because the international community dragged its feet on supporting the rebels very early on it allowed for extremism to rise and why we have isis now threatening both sides of the border. but, at the same time, there's no doubt that if, in fact, the u.s. gets involved in syria it would be a very interesting development. the syrian foreign minister yesterday warned the united states not to carry out any air strikes without close coordination with the syrian government. >> ayman, thank you very much. it was a day full of tributes as thousands came together to say good-bye to michael brown. the 18-year-old was laid to rest after an emotional funeral service in st. louis honoring his father's wishes. protesters stayed off the streets as the focus remind in the life of the young man killed by police two weeks ago. the reverend al sharpton brought many of the mourners to their feet with his eulogy saying there must be justice for brown's death and it must serve as a wake-up call to the

country. >> no community in america would tolerate an 18-year-old boy laying in the street four and a half hours and we not going to tolerate it either! whatever happened the value of this boy's life must be answered by somebody. michael brown doesn't want to be remembered for right. he wants to be remembered as the one that made america deal with how we going to police in the united states. we can't have a fit. we got to have a movement. a fit, you get mad and run out for a couple of nights. a movement means we got to be here for the long haul and turn

out chance into change. our demonstration in the legislation, we have got to stay on this so we can stop this. >> a new "usa today"/pugh research show police do a fair or poor job of treating racial and ethnic groups qaeequally. they say officers do a poor job. you get a sense how people feel across the country. >> mike, right now, we're at a turning point for the police officers in america. not just on race relations. just in general. police in general. like the story about, you know, this summer, i was sitting around with a bunch of white middle to upper middle class white guys who have never gotten in trouble with the law. they were sitting there talking about how the quality of a lot of police officers keeps going down and down and they seem more are pushing their weight around.

again, these are people that don't have to worry about walking down their streets. >> the key to any police department, small, medium or large, is training. constant training and constant retraining. >> i talked about culture yesterday. it's a culture. >> listen, joe, no matter where you are as a cop, you possess the four magic words that nobody else in america can say, you are under arrest. those are powerful words and you have to be careful how they are used, how they are employed and when they are used and employed. cops need constant training. >> constant. >> a couple of different things have happened over time. warren buffett, no stranger to the debate over taxes he is stepping into the center of the conversation once again. "wall street journal" says the billionaire investor is expected to provide 25% of the financing for, get this, burger king to take over the canadian chain tim horton's. wait a minute. the deal is drawing scrutiny because it would allow burger

king to move its headquarters across the border and side-step u.s. taxes. buffett has long called for wealthier americans to pay a higher share of taxes. news of the proposed restaurant merger sent shares of both companies soaring about 20% each. >> whoa. he's always talking about, hay i'm a billionaire, i would be glad to pay more taxes. here we are talking about him helping an american, an iconic american company flee to canada. the corporation doesn't have to pay any taxes and guess who does? we all get stuck with it. i don't get it. >> is there so much value in the deal it's not worth looking at that part. >> tim horton's is an iconic canadian company. it's a religion in canada. not just a coffee shop. >> a religion. warren buffett, don't get it. >> we will have to ask him about that. still ahead on "morning joe," which college football team benefits the most from the

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patrol. out of precaution swimmers were kept on the shore while beach goers did not tell people about the shark. having fun with the situation someone wrote the final line from jaws, "you're going to need a bigger boat in the sand." >> in virginia, drivers were in for a rough commute yesterday morning in virginia when lane lines were literally drawn all over the road. >> why? >> from a chopper there it looks like the pages of a messy coloring book. botched line stripping job. >> aren't these done by a truck? >> yeah. typically. it caused a lot of slow downs and caused a lot of swerving so the mistake it didn't lead to any traffic accidents. >> thank god. >> the department of transportation in virginia is looking into what caused the action and they are working to repair that mistake. the "los angeles times." the damage from the northern california earthquake is looking to top $1 billion and is dealing

a devastating blow to the wine industry. it could send prices sky high. some wineries are reporting a loss 50% of their existing inventory. the damage comes as harvest approaches meaning cleaningup may cause a delay in grapes getting picked when they are at their prime. that could affect the international and domestic markets for coveted napa valley wines. >> apple may replace some iphone 5 batteries following complaints from customers. the company says the recall issue applies to phones that have been sold between september 2012 and january 2013. iphone 5 users can head over to apple.com to enter their phone serial number to see if their

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dempsey said, quote, can they be defeated by addressing that part of the organization that resides in syria? the answer is no. he suggested we have to go into syria if we are going to defeat isis. does the president agree with that assessment? >> again, what i would go back to is the president's stated strategy for dealing with isil. there are more tools in the tool box than military force. >> he is saying you have to go

into syria to defeat them. does the president agree with that? >> gonzales i thiagain, i think a range of ways to confront this threat. it can't just be through u.s. military force. >> all right. time now for the must read opinion pages. joining us on set former governor of vermont and former chairman of the democratic national committee howard dean with his 50-state tie on. all 50 states representing. >> right. >> washington anchor for bbc world news america, katty kay on board this morning. >> hi, guys. >> "the new york times" lost in america by frank bruni. >> i said mike but i meant frank bruni. >> it's a country vending to a new identity and era in which optimism is quaint and the frontier anything but endless. there is a feeling of helplessness that makes the political horizon unpredictable

and it is what people feel. it's also what the data shows. we have had guests on from different companies and i think others are looking at this. where truly people will not do as well 15 years from now as their parents. >> i say they are all wrong optimistically. >> i hope so. here is "the washington post" is president obama too detached to lead by michael gerson? the president for president obama has comk e in managing hi office. the juxtaposition of beheading and golf that should have raised questions. is there really no one on the white house staff with a standing to confront obama when he is about to make a self-evident mistake? >> is there? >> i don't know if that is fair. i do think probably after the reaction, there may have been a few too people and i don't know, they always do that, those

people, the ga. i wish they would see there are optic times that need to be considered. >> this happens when you have outsiders winning the presidency whether it's jimmy carter or i remember george h.w. bush. i remember when people were coming to him and starting to warn him about losing. george h.w. bush would say if you're so gd smart, why aren't you president? >> right. >> it's hard for barack obama to hear he's never going to win, he's never going to win, he's never going to win and then he wins. this happens to all of them. they get in there and they say they got it wrong the first time on the big question so why do i have to listen to him now? that seems affect this white house's culture than any other white house culture in recent memory. >> "wall street journal" the neocons and this is by brett stevens.

now liberals want u.s. to bomb iraq and syria as well to stop and defeat isis. where one might ask where were these neocons a couple of years ago. when stopping isis in its infancy might have spared us the current catastrophe. they were drinking from the fountain of opportunistic punditry. which brings us back to the bush administration on september 12th, 2001. are we going to fight terrorists over there or wait for them to come here? can we win with a light footprint approach against a heavy footprint enemy? say what you will will about george w. bush. he got every one of these questions right while mr. obama got every one of them wrong. it's a truth that may it last be dawning on the neocons, not that i expect them ever to admit it. >> there is a lot there. this always reminds me of the gun control debate. i'm a second amendment guy.

but when you start talking about military style weapons, you say, okay, well, with we need to ban assault weapons. they did, well, they aren't assault weapons. then we need to do some bans. they get you coming and going. in this case, if barack obama moves aggressively against isis in syria, it's oh, he should have listened to us. i don't even know what this means. listen to this. dining at a -- drinking from the fountain of opportunistic punditry and -- cheney and libya. after a decade of if'ing up the way we did killing, you know, untold number of people in a war that ended up not being a war of necessity and spending trillions

of dollars. having what is going on in iraq right now because people like me and people like "wall street journal" who i love. i read their editorials every day and usually agree with it, because we got it so wrong? now you go after barack obama because he is doing what you say he should have been doing the past couple of years. i don't know where to start with this! >> i wouldn't. it's written by samuel after his last snort of white powder. >> oh, my. >> let's get serious about this. this wouldn't be happening if we hadn't gone into iraq the second time. this is exactly what i predicted three years ago -- ten years ago. >> is there anybody in america that would suggest that wasn't the case if we hadn't gotten it so wrong in the first case, this would not be happening in iraq right now. >> let's look. i think this is an interesting discussion on on the part about the president being detached. the president seems to be detached. that is his personality.

whether you like that or don't like that, let's put that aside and look at the actions what is going on. isis is serious and wouldn't be there if we hadn't gone in iraq. i said 11 years ago one of the reasons we shouldn't go in there because iraq is going to be split up and it's on the process of being split up. the general ask right. you cannot deal with isis unless you're willing to take them everywhere. they can't be left with a safe harbor so you have to deal with them in syria. if that is the decision the president has come to and i think it's the right conclusion, we have to do this. the rest of this is party politics. >> the thing i've said for sometime, we republicans take the blame for 2003 to 2008. >> but the democrats voted for this too. >> thank you for saying that. people like mccain you see him every weekend. he has to say the president is wrong. because it's somehow going to raise what we got wrong from three to 2008, it never will. we have to figure out how to do this together, republicans and

democrats alike and look forward instead of looking back and blaming. >> there's so many inconsiste y inconsistencies here. they were over there to fight terrorists and no terrorists in iraq. it was the wrong country. >> wrong place. >> they picked the wrong axis of evil. >> you went to the wrong place. >> the argument over syria, there was more of a debate over syria, i think, a year ago about whether there could have been a moment for taking action because of the humanitarian that was going on. >> i like bret stevens and read his pieces and usually agree with them but he needs to stay away from these type of pieces. we screwed up in 2003. 70% of americans were wrong with me. i was wrong. the whole country, the majority of the country was wrong. howard, you got it right and a couple of other people got it right too. but you know what they say about a blind squirrel.

but the reason this piece doesn't work, you got it. exactly right. there weren't terrorists in iraq. so george w. bush went over to fight them where they weren't and we paid a tremendous price because of it. >> howard dean and katty, kay stay with us. breakfast is doing better than ever. why cereal is left out in the cold? why is that? i thought breakfast was big. we will explain. >> this is big. new season of college football just around the corner! espn's kirk herbstreit is here to tell us why alabama is going to be number one. we will be right back. ♪ ♪

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upcoming college season and this is big, football analyst for espn's "college gameday" kirk herbstreit. >> thank you. >> what excites me this year i know part of the drama will be gone because if a team trips up once, you're like, damn, it's all over and it's only september 14th but we are going to the playoff system. >> that is the thing. >> it's kind of cool. >> a lot of people didn't like the bcs. now we have a playoff. now we have four teams that get a chance to play it out. there is a lot of excitement around the sport right now. as you know with the bcs there was always that third or fourth team you'd like to see in a championship and now we will get a chance to see a playoff. >> we will still have the debate but, again, the debate will be, i don't think quite as intense. how is this going to work? are the other bowls going to actually be relevant? >> yeah. >> growing up, we watched every bowl because every bowl was relevant. now they yu don't matter. >> i think that is what they are trying to get back to is create matchups that the fans want.

even though the four teams in kind of a semifinal this year, the sugar bowl and rose bowl will try to give you matchups if you're an s.e.c. fan you look forward to them watching a play a big 12 team or pac-12 team. the thing to remember no more computers. the committee members of 13 will decide ultimately. not just the championship, the final four, but all of those bowl games. >> let's go through the teams. defending champ florida state. i can't believe how quickly that program turned around. i never saw it coming and i lived two and a half hours from there. >> you're an alabama fan so you can understand and respect what jimbow fisher has done. they recruited out of their minds. they have a great quarterback and great defense and play in the acc where they never get challenged so they will be back again in the top four. >> what about ohio state and urban meyer? >> they are in the big ten and just lost their quarterback. i thought would maybe win the heisman trophy. i thought they had a shot to win

the national title. third year urban has been there and they will be better than almost everybody they play but they have to allow for the game at michigan state. >> what happened with the big ten? we were growing up. the big ten. i actually went up to penn state about three years ago so alabama played penn state. and i was stunned just sitting in the stands seeing how slow. this is before penn state collapsed. is urban meyer going to bring fast football back to the big ten? >> he is sure trying. >> make the big ten competitive again? >> that is what he is trike to do. the big ten has taken a step back athletically. i don't know if it's coaching or recruiting. i don't know if the influx of the high school talent down in the south, as you know in florida and georgia and south carolina, louisiana, just such a high level. the big ten, you might have one or two great players and the s.e.c. and high school football you have 15, 20, or 0 to choose from. but i think urban meyer is

changing the model a little bit and raising the bar without a doubt and mark d'antoni as well. >> we have been focusing on the s.e.c. and big ten. s.e.c. has a channel now dedicated to the s.e.c. there is already a pac-12. oregon and ucla loaded with great players. heisman candidates, maybe in both schools. >> well, it's funny you bring that up, because nobody ever talks about the pac-12. we make a point on "college gameday" talking a lot about the pac-12 but still that east coast bias. people focus on the s.e.c. and even the big ten and big 12. people don't watch the pac-12. it's harder. they are making strides. larry scott their new commissioner is trying to get people to realize they play great football but they are this close to overtaking the s.e.c. in my mind as the top conference in the country. >> tell us a little bit about this one kid miles jack who plays for ucla. >> throwback. he played linebacker and running back and two-way guy and superstar player and he was just

a freshman last year so he is back again this year. >> four teams to watch this season. florida state and michigan state is a bit of a surprise. cleanly alabama. >> those are my four that i think will make it out there. i think when braxton miller went down, i put michigan state in there. i think they got a shot. they play in the big ten and better than most of the teams they play. they have a veteran quarterback. i think they win the big ten and get in the final four. >> katty has been auditioning to get on espn. i hope this segment has convinced you. she is ready to go. >> kirk herbstreit, thank you very much. >> we love having you here. come more than once a year. >> you got it. >> coming up on "morning joe." 21 times. 21 times, lost 19. it's like a cruel joke. it's like they are going, oh, you're great. am i? yea, come over. i'm like, no, no, you're not. you're not so good. >> ouch. a full recap of last night's

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♪ the emmy awards held last night on a monday evening for the first time since the '70s. we are going to get to the winners in a moment. first, one of the more beautiful moments of the night came during billy crystal's tribute to comedian robin williams. >> it's very hard to talk about him in the past, because he was so present in all of our lives. for almost 40 years, he was the brightest star in the comedy galaxy, but while some of the brightest of our bodies are actually distinct now. their energy long but cooled but miraculously because they float in the heavens so far away from us now, the beautiful light will continue to shine on us forever, and the glow will be so bright, it will warm your heart, it will

make your eyes glisten and you'll think to yourself, robin williams, what a concept. >> wow. >> what a concept. >> that was perfectly put. really perfectly put. no better person than billy crystal to try encapsulate what robin williams meant to everybody. a lot of incredible winners last night that actually i didn't think would happen. "breaking bad." i thought people would move on. >> no, they have not! >> kept winning. it closed its run with a big win and not just for best drama series. bri they all won. "modern family" notched fifth consecutive win for comedy series tying "frazier" for all time wins in a row. "the big bang theory" also won. >> my sons' favorite shows. i have watched almost every

episode. 14-year-old boys love it. in order to spend time with them, i watch it too. i know every character. actually, very funny. >> he makes a million dollars an episode. >> julianna margulies also won. fan favorites shut out was "house of cards." and i'm surprised "orange is the new black." but there is time. >> what happened with this sofia? >> she is so nice. >> well, i think it's a joke that kind of -- it was supposed to be funny -- well, let's take a. there was controversy when "modern family" actress sofia vergara introduced the president of the academy arts and science. then he did this. >> this is a terrific year for american television and our shows continue to have a meaningful impact around the world. to demonstrate we would love for

you to stand on this resolving platform. >> i don't think that is necessary but that how they do it in american television? okay. wait. is it going to -- >> there you go. okay. >> he went on to give his speech as she resolved around on a pedestal for over a minute. >> wait a minute. what was the purpose? >> to look at her? >> no. what was part of the gag? i'm serious. if this was supposed to be a gag. >> because nobody listens to the president of the academy speak so to make it more purposeful, they put her on a resolving pedestal so you kind of pay attention to what he has to say. >> there was some reaction calling it sexist and degrading but vergara disagreed telling "entertainment weekly" saying the following. i think it's ridiculous that

somebody started this. i know who she was. who has no sense of humor and should lighten up a little bit. ew. there you go. >> what do you think, mika? >> i think it was awkward. it was just like a joke and it didn't work so well. you got to be able to laugh at yourself. she actually does such a good job of doing that on every aspect of what they brings to the table. her background and her ethnicity and her incredible shape. >> she does use that as a punch line in the tv series too. >> exactly. yes! >> what do you think? >> i think it was a bit awkward. you know what they could have done? follow it up by putting matthew mckconaughey on the pedestal. >> thank you! >> would you have been fine with that? >> if you're going to be demeaning, be demeaning to both sexes. >> objective. >> matthew mcconaughey, he looks

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>> barnicle knows. >> what is the saying? >> no passport required, baby. only common sense. >> you can bring your shorts too. >> allowed. >> now to our special emmy edition. >> and marry your cousin. it's great. >> bill karins, who are you wearing? >> i have no clue! you know one thing nobody is talking about all of the night? the host. "usa today" is giving him rave reviews. he didn't sing and didn't try to dance. he wasn't mean and he had great one-liners and that is seth meyers. >> this year, we are doing the emmys on a monday night in august which if i understand television, that means emmys are about to get cancelled. >> the biggest names took center stage last night in the emmys in an award show where movie stars have some trouble fitting in. >> look at that face. that's not a television face. that is a movie star face right

there. that is a television face. >> gwen stefani could prouns no the name in the envelope? >> the award goes to stephen colbe colbert. >> she said is wrong so there must be a mistake. very interesting. unbelievable. i want to see the envelope. i want to see the envelope. >> reporter: not only did julia louis dreyfus and brian cranston each took home hardware they stole the show talking about their once upon a time romance on "seinfeld." i have to tell you you look so much like the actor in "seinfeld" who actually played a dentist. >> we actually had a kissing scene together. and the -- >> reporter: when dreyfus was on her way up to accept her reward the artist formerly known as tim

wily made one last-ditch effort to refresh her memory. >> julia louis dreyfus has won five emmys and 18 nominations and previous wins for "seinfeld" the new adventures of old christine and thief. >> yeah. he was on "seinfeld." yeah. >> elaine! >> just as sloppy and just as good. when we broke it all down, hbo had 19 emmys but cbs news 11 and nbc 10 and abc 8 and it wasn't just dominated by cable nets. >> bail karins, thank you very much. the next hour of "morning joe" starts right now. >> he just wanted so much. he wanted to go to college. he wanted to have a family. he wanted to be a good father.

but god chose differently and i'm at peace about that because he's not a lost soul. his death is not in vain. >> a strong moment, mika, from the ending of a terrible, terrible tragedy. >> yeah. >> we are going to have the reverend al sharpton coming up next block to talk about his part in the funeral yesterday. he had a very, very moving set of words. >> he did. of course, there is criticism of al. there is always criticism of al. based on battles in the past and wherever he goes, resentment follows it seems from a lot of people in the blogatmosphere. people talking about he should have talked about policing in middle of a eulogy. i'm going to ask him about that and why he was there. that is coming up pretty soon. here is such a sad, sad picture on the front page. al was right.

it is unnatural for a father to bury a child. none of us can understand the grief that michael brown sr. was enduring there just like we could not understand the grief that jim foley's parents were enduring the other day. unbelievable. you see the front page of "wall street journal" and it looks like barack obama is -- over here, not the commercial, over here. >> big commercial. >> is laying the groundwork for an attack in iraq and syria. i wonder -- i wonder what the republican response is going to be. i wonder what my party wants and i wonder this because there has been constant criticism of this president leading from behind. it's been constant criticism of him not doing enough early

enough in syria. i've been part of the criticism. i've not been a huge fan of his foreign policy. i've used words like leading from behind. i actually think in afghanistan, we should have gotten out earlier. he shouldn't have tripled the number of troops there and said that very clearly on the set here every day while he was considering doing that. but now that the president of the united states is doing what we hear john mccain and lindsey graham and other republicans say he should do, what is the response? it's criticism. it's either it's not enough or, oh, my god, he should have done this six months ago, i told him a year ago. well, yes, yes, we have differences. there's an op-ed from a guy i respect who actually said that the president could go in because they were dining at the table of establishment of

respectability and drinking from the fountain of opportunistic punditry, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, written as if the last decade didn't happen and that actually presidents should show the same restraint that eisenhower showed, that colin powell showed? you know, if george w. bush had actually asked the secretary of state who had fought the war a decade earlier what he thought about going into iraq, then the secretary of state would have told him, you know what? i don't think it's the right thing to do. you got a war against terror and iraq is not there. you know, the end of this -- the neocons article talks about say what you will about george w. bush. he got most of it right. i never actually heard anybody in 2014 say that about george w. bush, a man i respect. a man i supported. a man i voted for twice, but i sure as hell said he's got it right when it came to fighting

terrorists over there, instead of fighting them over here. you see, the failure of that is he did get afghanistan right early on. but certainly not iraq, because the terrorists weren't there. a bad guy was there. the terrorists weren't there but guess what? because of what we did from 2003 to 2013 and, yes, you can blame barack obama for not moving quickly enough just like you can blame george w. bush for starting it, the terrorists are there now. but the president is not leading behind any more on isis. no, he's not. he went in aggressively and prevented genocide from happening to a religious minority that had had genocide practiced on them 73 times before. no, he's not leading from i didn't want there. he is not leading from behind. he is arming the kurds something that, of course, republicans said they were for but now they are not saying, thank you, mr. president, doing what we have been asking you to do.

don't know exactly why. oh, yeah. we aggressively worked to retake a dam from isis. i still all i heard this weekend was criticism of the commander in chief. that's fine, i guess, if that is what you want to do, if that gets you off. i mean, seriously? we are in the middle of a crisis and you want to talk about, like, what happened in the rearview mirror? that is fine. now remember getting ready to move into syria and i'm sure more criticism about that. i read a piece yesterday it's not enough, it's never enough. i understand it's not enough. what do you want? what do you want? you want us to just go -- i mean, it's a quaint notion. i understand it's a quaint notion. just like it's my quaint notion that i believe america's best days are ahead because guess what? america's best days are ahead! go ahead, bet against america. everybody that has over the past 230 years loses. you want to lose now because your party is not in office? bet against america, but our best days are ahead. i say the same thing of

democrats. every time a republican in the white house, suddenly we are going to hell in hand basket. we are not. our best days are ahead. there is another quaint notion, though. damn it, i think we need to get our arms around and that is that in times like these, we stop looking back at how republicans screwed up from 2003 to 2008. and how democrats screwed up from 2009 to 2013. and instead we look forward together against an existential threat like we did a couple of days after 9/11. the quaint notion i speak of, the quaint notion that my parents and grandparents grew up in the world they lived in with washington politicians put americans ahead of their own short-term political ambitions. it's a concept that politics ends at the water's edge.

wouldn't it be nice, mika? >> it would. >> if actually for a week or two, while we are facing this threat from isis that politics could actually end at the water's edge and if the commander in chief does what you have been asking the president of the united states to do, then just say, thank you, how can we help? we have some suggestions. and maybe the president can actually invite the other side over and they can sit down and talk together like leaders from both parties have done for a couple of centuries. >> we will take -- >> is that something too much. >> it doesn't appear to be. they seem to criticize everything he does even the things they say he should do, especially republicans. some of the far right who are very pro -- >> the neocons. >> yeah. it's like as if they aren't seeing what is happening. >> by the way -- >> all right. >> what i just said, i'm sure idiots all day, which i don't read it any more because you're idiots are going so scarborough is saying foreign policy -- no, i'm not. i've been critical of his

foreign policy from the very beginning but i love my country more than i do my political party. guilty. let's work together. these people are evil. let's work together and stamp them off the face of the earth together. guess what? you don't get to pick and choose who your commander in chief is in the fight against isis now. okay? next election is in a couple of years. get off your asses and vote for a republican if you want to be able to have a republican commander in chief but, for now, he is our president for the next two years, that's all you got and all we got. he is our commander in chief and we have to figure out how to beat isis together and we can't wait two and a half years. >> let's let them work. defense officials say surveillance aircraft are flying oversyria after president obama gave his approval over the weekend. the campaign reportedly includes manned flights and drones to

together surveillance on islamic state military. it could be a sign the u.s. is preparing accession in syria but white house says no decision has been made. despite recent games by militants within syria the assad government is warning the united states against getting involved on that side of the border. let's bring in nbc news foreign correspondent ayman mohyeldin live in london. if the u.s. air strikes and militants in syria, does that mean our objectives line up with those of bashar al assad? that is the question. >> in the short term they might and that is because the growing risk of is circumstancis and th to the united states is presenting a very dark, if you will, threat. no doubt the overall differences between the united states and the syrian government are still very stark between the two sides. i mean, obviously, the u.s. foreign policy is official calling on president bashar to step down from power so there is now doubt the u.s. is not going to be cooperating in any capacity with the syrian regime

to carry out attacks against isis. in the short term there may be an alignment in interest but in the long run no plan of cooperation presented on the long run. >> it's in assad's best interest for us to stamp isis out or at least weaken them. yet we are hearing the syrian foreign ministry saying don't let this happen. are they voicing a protest they know we are going to run through nivert? >> reporter: i think the -- without the syrian government really being able to do anything to stop it. there is more of an issue of international law and certainly the argument made by the syrian regime this is about sof

sovereignty. you probably could hear rumblings from russia and china but i don't think it's enough to deter the united states from protecting its over interests if it needs to act. >> ayman, thank you. this morning, ukraine says four border guards were killed after an attack by a russian military helicopter. this comes as ukraine accused separatists of attacking a border town in the southeastern part of that country. officials say 12 ukrainian service members have been killed in fighting in the past 24 hours. warren buffett is no stranger to the debate over taxes and he is stepping into the center of the conversation once again in kind of a surprising way. >> burger king! >> "wall street journal" says the billionaire investor is expected to provide 25% of the financing for burger he king to take over the canadian chain tim horton's. the deal is drawing scrutiny because it would allow burger king to move its headquarters across the border and side-step u.s. taxes. buffett has long called for

wealthier americans to pay a higher share of taxes. news of the proposed restaurant merger sent shares of both companies soaring about 20% each. what do you think, joe? >> i think a guy talking about the wealthy need to pay their taxes, he has some explaining to do. >> i think if you're going to talk about paying taxes to reach the level that you think the millionaires in the country should pay, you shouldn't be seen doing something that skip taxes by going overseas. >> barnicle i think should remain in the united states. they should be paying their taxes here. >> okay. >> yeah. and because what happens is -- >> i feel like we are missing a part of the story. >> what happens is that if burger king doesn't pay their taxes, that is passed on to the rest of us. we all pay those taxes. >> it doesn't mesh with this message. with an all-star legal team and a take no prisoner speaking schedule, texas governor rick perry is seeking dismissal of

the indictments against him. perry's attorneys in court yesterday filing a 60-page document calling the charges against him, quote, unprecedented, insupportable and simply impermissible. a grand jury indicted him to veto funding for a dui. perry continues his busy primary state wing some columbia this week. >> this is like the jackson's victory tour in '83 on are '84. the democrats have overreached and they are turning this guy into a mortar. they could not -- it's going to be dismissed. i mean, they have helped him so much. >> yeah. >> great advance work for his trip to new hampshire last week. >> the wanted t-shirts. i want one. >> i've never seen a mug shot so perfect. >> it was beautiful. >> presidentially groomed.

>> it has lighting and everything. >> my final thought is this. if anybody who works for rick perry is watching this morning, i know you are, could you please send mika a t-shirt and she will wear it on the air. a wanted rick perry t-shirt. still ahead on "morning joe," wine country rocked as this past weekend's earthquake in napa is costing the region billions of dollars in our 8:00 hour. up next, how is michael brown's death, how has it changed the country? reverend al sharpton is back from missouri and joins us on set next. first, bill karins with a check on the forecast. bill? a hot forecast. now we are only two weeks away from the peak of the hurricane season in the atlantic base september 10th. this is when the storms can come fast and they can be strong. we have a hurricane not far off the east coast. but we are not worried about it at all. we will show you where it's located. it's just exiting the bahamas and became a hurricane last night and forecast remain unchanged and parallels from florida right past north

carolina all the way up past maine and nova scotia and parallel 500 miles off the short and bermuda may get brushed with it but large waves and rip currents on the east coast. i know a lot of surfers are happy about it. they haven't had large waves this year. the highs yesterday, 100 in st. louis. i think yesterday the hottest day across the country. we saw all summer. today is very warm again. excessive heat warning in effect for much of central illinois including the st. louis area but that cold front will cool you off. so it looks like today is your last really hot day. bad storms overnight in omaha with flooding and have weakened as they went through omaha and wat waterloo. i think the hottest across the country until next summer. 90 to a hundred to kansas city. warm on the east coast and it looks like tomorrow will be new york city's maybe last chance of hitting 90 degrees as we get a little taste of the heat in the big apple. you're watching "morning joe." we will be right back. ♪

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this is about justice. this is about fairness and america is going to have to come to terms when there is something wrong, that we have money to give military equipment to police forces, where we don't have money for training and money for public education and money to train our children! america, it's time to deal with policing! we are not the haters. we are the healers! >> just back from the funeral of michael brown in st. louis, host of msnbc "politics nation." reverend al sharpton.

from washington pulitzer prize winning columnist and editor of "the washington post" eugene robinson. we will read part of your piece in a bit. reverend al, you had everybody galvanized and listening yesterday and standing out of their seats feeling something very powerful about the state of policing today. >> well, i hope we are at a point where we can deal with this in a very substantive and intelligent way, because of what we have seen the last several weeks from staten island to l.a. to ferguson. i think it is time for us to really deal with these issues. >> i want to not only talk about michael brown and staten island in a minute. first, a couple of criticisms that were cropping up yesterday as you started speaking and they probably started writing them before you started speaking. the question is always here. why is al sharpton there? he is chasing a camera. if a camera is there, al will be there.

>> first of all, i was called by a family. no one does a eulogy at a funeral because they broke into a funeral. >> exactly. not like you jumped up and said i'm going to talk. >> you went there because the family called you and asked you to be there? not just yesterday but from the very beginning. >> they called me on -- he was killed on saturday. they called me early sunday morning. and i committed to come even before there was a riot and even before i knew the national story because they told me he was laid there four hours. i said, well, let's see what this is about. second of all, it's not about chasing a camera. i'm on tv every night here. i think that the policies need to be addressed. i also addressed black on black crime as we call it. youth violence yesterday. no one got angry at that. i think the family wanted it put into the context of we have got to deal with these issues. >> another criticism you were talking about policing. there were some people that i

saw that actually are not antagonistic toward you saying he shouldn't have talked about policing. it sounded more like a political speech. that is because they spulpulled the snippets. >> not just that. >> should you have talked about policing in a eulogy? >> yes. because as you looked at the program, the cousin of the family, reverend ewing, did the family eulogy. they had me do the national policy eulogy. that's what the family wanted me to do. they wanted knee address policing. >> they asked you to do this? >> that's what i was on the program to do. and i addressed policing and gun violence. they wanted me to talk about both and about the looting and the rioting. that is what i was on the program for. and, again, the critics have the right to criticize. that's what they do. i criticize. but the family should be respected at a family funeral. >> let's draw a contrast what is happening in ferguson and what is happening in staten island. we closely followed what happened in staten island.

people in the crowds of staten island with horrible signs. as we said on the show yesterday morning you made it clear in staten island we are not here against the police. >> not only here -- >> you said to me off camera, i like bill bratton. we don't agree all the time. i'd like you to draw a contrast for people out there did you see all of this part of one big thing and talk about how new york is not perfect. new york cops, sometimes -- you know, it's a big police force but explain the difference so why many yyou can have a peacef protest in staten island and in ferguson things erupted. can you talk about the culture of the two police departments and how that makes such a big difference? >> i think that is important. i think the differences is bill bratton and i don't agree. i happen to get along with him now. we worked in l.a. together in our l.a. office so we can talk. even when we had the city hall

round table and the mayor and i had words, we can talk in a room. when you get to ferguson and you have a man that says there is no problem, there is no racial divide. >> i can't imagine that the round table there. >> there is no dialogue. there is nothing wrong with mature grown people disagreeing in a room on how we are going to make a city safe. there is something wrong when people act like there is no problem. i think when you act as though, when you are in denial, that is when you cause people to explode or implode either one, because you won't even have a discussion about what affects them. in new york, we have been able to get it to that point. now we need change. we don't need to stop that, but we need to have -- >> you write in your column in "the washington post" the young male and to be black in america means not allowed to make mistakes. forgetting this as we have seen so many times can be fatal. when officer darren wilson stopped him did brown respond with puffed up attitude for a young black man?

that is a transgression punishable by death. understandably they draw the nation's attention but the tragedies are a visible manifestation of a much larger reality. most, if not all, young man go through a period when they are likely to engage in risky behavior of various kinds without fully grasping the consequences of their actions. if they are white, boys will be boys. but if they are black, they are treated as men and assumed to have malicious intent. >> jean, after trayvon martin, we had several talks about the talks and we brought it up here that you had to have with your sons which is you're just not allowed to act the way teenagers act, sons. or you may be presumed guilty and bad things can happen. >> yeah.

there is a double standard out there and it's just a fact. you know, we tell our sons they have to deal with it. i remember when my son was in high school, a friend of his, a white friend, suburban friend from a wealthy family turned out -- he calls up and he thought -- i answer the phone. he thought it was my son aaron answering the phone. he is like, hey, dog, what is up, man, talking as if he is straight out of compton. i said, this is mr. robinson. he said, hello, sir, how are you? it's like eddie haskell on "leave it to beaver." he is able to do that code switch. but if my son is talking like that, then unitit's assumed he violent and dangerous and he is not just -- the culture in perhaps a foolish way but in the way that kids do. i wanted to get to that point

that reverend sharpton was making and that was a powerful eulogy, i thought, rev, yesterday, that was really quite something. but the difference between bill bratton in new york and the police chief out in ferguson is bill bral bratton i think understands policing is something you do with a community, it's not something you do to a community and that seems to be the attitude in ferguson and that has to change. >> all right. gene, thank you very much. reverend al sharpton, thank you very much. we will be watching "politics nation" at 6:00 p.m. on msnbc. gene, stay with us, if you can. coming up, how far will the white house go in its pursuit of isis? syrian officials are warning against a u.s. strike in its country but should american officials listen? we go live to the pentagon. plus from vacation bliss to hotel hell. than been through that? how hidden fees can ruin a good time. that and more when "morning joe" returns.

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welcome back to "morning joe." 31 past the hour. live look at the white house. the rise of islamic state militants in iraq and syria has u.s. defense officials increasing their efforts to gather evidence for a possible air strikes. we want to go to mark halpern, a "morning joe" contributor, and talk about the conflicting messages we are getting about this group because you first hear they are the jv team and thens in comes of a horrific act. then you hear other lawmakers calling them one airplane flight away from hitting us hard. what are they? >> the united states government still assessing the options not only about what can be done but what kind of coalition of the willing can be built. if american troops aren't on the ground, what kind of force can be built? talking about u.s. strikes perhaps in syria from the air. but can the kurds be built up? can the syrian resistance be built up? are there other arab countries -- >> what have they said at the white house? >> they recognize they are a

little bit on borrowed time. they are not rushing but recognize they need a lot more information from the pentagon about what options there are and the reason these surveillance flights are so important is satellite technology isn't good enough right now. consistent enough to tell them what is possible, what actions are possible to try to roll isis back. again, what countries can the united states work with? talk yesterday about working with syria. the white house shot that down very hard. they are not inclined for the optics to work with the syrian government because being in a coalition with syria has other huge implications for other parties. >> jim miklaszewski, is there consistency between the white house and the pentagon on this? >> reporter: at the time there appears to be. mark hit it right on the head. at the time take ground troops to eventually defeat isis both in iraq and syria but the president has vowed numerous times during this current

dust-up that no way is he going to put u.s. military boots on the ground during this conflict. and i can tell you that even though the syrian government has demanded that the u.s. coordinate any possible air strike with the syrian government, officials here say that is not just going to happen. they don't see the syrian air defenses as a serious threat to the kind of air strikes that the u.s. would, in fact, launch. so they have dismissed that possibility entirely. >> mick, how much is the united states handicapped by an apparent lack of intelligence on the ground in syria and how much is the pentagon looking towards cairo as potential allies in this continuing fight against isis? >> reporter: all you have to do, mike, is looked that failed hostage attempt in july. the u.s. military intelligence thought they had it nailed. they thought those american and other hostages were located at that oil refinery and when they

went in, they -- the hostages weren't there. so that is a clear indication that they really don't have good intelligence. and the idea that these air strikes could target isis leadership also appears to be entirely out of the question. they are constantly on the move so what they will go after is the targets that are visible. equipment, supplies, but, more importantly, that supply chain that is a constant from iraq to syria to arm and assist the rebels inside syria. >> you started by asking what the threat is from isis, mika. this is a group with territory the size of maryland. hundreds of millions of dollars in their bank accounts now. and thousands of western passports including a hundred american passports so this is a serious national security threat to the united states. this is not iraq in 2003. >> mick, thank you very much. and stay with us, if you can, mark halpern. still ahead, what he knew

and what he didn't. bob mcdonnell cross-examined by the prosecution yesterday. >> this was tough yesterday? >> this was rough. the latest courtroom drama next. a touching emmy tribute to the late robin williams. >> the brilliance was astounding. the relentless energy was kind of thrilling. i used to think if i could just put a saddle on him and stay on for eight seconds, i was going to do okay. "morning joe" will be right back. ♪

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hostetler. democrats have raised millions on the lawsuit and eager to remind of the gop court battles. steve israeli who leads his party's efforts to a house liked democrat said in part, quote, this outrageous waste of taxpayer dollars is another reminder of how republicans misguided priorities. only in john boehner's world does it make sense to pay lawyers $500 an hour to work on a partisan lawsuit while refusing to raise the minimum wage. republicans claim the president's executive actions have harmed congress by nullifying its legislative authority. the lawsuit will be led by david rifkin who the attorney who came up with the legal reasoning. foe bob mcdonnell tried to a picture how toxic his marriage to his wife had become. when the prosecutor dug in, he forced the governor to

acknowledge time and again he knew about the long list of gifts and favors jonnie williams had given. mcdonnell knitted the first lady had made inappropriate requests for money from friends and family for years. >> how did bob mcdonnell do on the stand yesterday, mark? >> there is a reason why defendants don't take the stand on their own defense. >> were you surprised they put him on the stand? >> from the beginning they said he would try to talk his way out of this as a smooth talker and someone whose credibility as a popular governor might play well with the jury. you know, i think yesterday, if he is convicted, yesterday will have proven to be just a huge mistake, because he has to admit what is true which is he knew about a lot of the gifts and he knew about a lot of the favors and it's going to be easy even if the law doesn't necessarily justify conviction it's easy for the jurors to latch on to his own words. >> gene, what do you think? i. i agree with mark halpern. i think the governor had a very

bad day in court yesterday. it is dangerous to put the defendant on the stand and he did. he had to acknowledge that he knew about all this stuff. >> you're like mika also. you don't buy the defense, do you? >> no. look. you know, he not only has thrown his wife under the bus, he has backed up and rolled over her again and again and again! and he keeps doing that. i cannot imagine that the jury is going -- that is going to make him sympathetic in the eyes of the jury. i can't imagine that. it's an unseemingly spectacle and i think he should have made a plea deal, i really do. >> i'm looking at what he has done to his wife. even if it was true she was the one driving the quest for the gifts and she was the one wanting the money, the way he has treated her while he has been up on the stand is appalling. >> all right. gene, thank you. still ahead, the hidden fees that will keep you up at night and turn your vacation get-away into a nightmare. plus a massachusetts speech

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♪ let's take another look at the morning papers. we start with "the boston globe." a shark sighting forced lifeguards to clear the waters yesterday at a beach in duxbury, massachusetts. state helicopter spotted a great white shark in the water during a routine patrol. out of precaution swimmers were kept on shore for two hours while they didn't tell the people will the shark. i think i would have told them. word eventually spread. having fun with the situation someone wrote the final line from jaws, "you're going to need a bigger boat in the sand." police will be on the lookout for shark again today. >> mike, have there always been great whites off the cape? or just more recent? >> this is unusual because this is in the bay side of the cape on the interior of the cape. duxbury is 35 miles south of boston. very unusual. >> usually sit on the beach with glasses on. >> do we know how far from the beach he was, the shark?

>> spitting distance. >> mika, a new crime in virginia. dwi. >> do you ever drive one of those paint trucks that paint the roads? i'm wondering if you -- >> why? >> from our nbc affiliate in virginia drivers in for a rough commute yesterday morning when lane lines were literally drawn all over the road. joe! >> i know. >> from a chopper it looked like the pages of a messy coloring book. >> we were out there last night, joe. >> i thought it was good. >> it confused drivers causing slow downs and swerving. thankfully, joe, the mistakes did not lead to an accident. the department of transportation in virginia is looking into what caused this and they are working to repair the mistake. somebody was a little confused while driving! >> or a little drunk. >> maybe. with summer coming to an end, families across the country may be experiencing what seems like a never ending list of fees at hotels. the wireless fees, really?

>> that is "nowing! >> that is annoying! >> come on! that's a joke. >> making a local phone call, it's $87. >> you never use the phone. nbc kerry sanders is live in miami beach, florida, with more on why you may have to dig a lot deeper into your pockets. kerry, more? >> reporter: yes. it's really going on catch you off guard if you haven't been to a hotel recently. the palm trees look so beautiful here on south beach. people will make last-minute decisions. whether it's here or all the way across the country, hotels have ripped a page out of the playbook of airlines. you know those little nickel and dime fees? they are going to cost consumers a lot more. before you check in and check out, the up charges. 20 and each 80 dollar resort fees and hotel service fees. one virginia hotel makes you pay for parking. whether you brought your car or not.

and guests could feel robbed by a fee for the inroom safe that you maybe didn't even use. in family friendly orlando, 70 dollars sounds cheap for a hotel package but that is the charge to pick up ups from the front desk. when leaving las vegas, you may wake up with more than a hangover. a mandatory resort fee on top of any other charges you -- well, may have forgotten about. resort fees are often bundled to provide better value and guests receive full disclosure of fees at the time of booking. >> so we're not going to see this go away? >> i don't think so, no. >> even if we hate it? >> absolutely. >> reporter: is there anything we can do? >> pretty much embrace it. >> it's cheating the consumer. that's your customers. >> why should i pay for something that i don't really like have used? >> reporter: leaving miami, this family from new jersey said their four-day beach vacation came with a huge surprise.

a $75 a day resort fee that ryan assumed was a mandatory tax. >> and did you pay it? >> what other choice did you have? >> you think your room is $399 a night and you get the bill and it's a completely different price. >> reporter: so what can you do? >> research. even call. and once you call a hotel and ask, will you charge me an extra fee, get the person's name down so that you have that information once you go. >> reporter: the hotel industry took in a whopping $2.5 billion on these added fees just last year. so the experts say if you're going to follow the line of what the airlines did, that went from $2.5 about seven years ago to more than $35 billion today. the hotel industry will likely continue on this path, making themselves more money, costing you and really, mika, at the end of the day, the ftc, federal trade commission has sent warning notes to some hotels

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now to the our special edition of holly-weird, bill karins. >> some people were calling it boring because there was nothing shocking or controversial. >> if i understand television, the emmys are about to get canceled. >> the biggest names in television took center stage last night at the emmys. an award show where movie stars occasionally have some trouble fitting in. >> look at that face. that's not a television face.

that's a movie star face right there. >> that is a television face. >> and gwen stefani was on loan but surely she could pronounce the name in her envelope. >> the colfer report. >> the colbert report. >> she said it wrong so there must be a mistake. it's just very interesting. it's unbelievable. i want to see the envelope. >> not only did julia louis dreyfuss take home hardware, they stole the show, their once-upon-a-time romance on seinfeld. >> you look so much like the actor in seinfeld who played the dentist. >> we actually had a kissing scene together. and the -- >> when dreyfuss was on her way

to accept her award, artist formerly known as tim wiley made one last-ditch effort to refresh her memory. >> 18 nominations. previous wins have been for seinfeld, the new adventures of "old christine." >> yeah, he was on seinfeld, yeah. >> oh, elaine. >> let's break it down. emmy wins, true detective with five. breaking bad took home six. do you guys know what the big winner was with seven? do you want to take a guess? >> what? wait, wait, wait. >> sherlock. >> the most of any show. >> see? i was so happy about that. >> it's great. addictive. >> it's on my list. i need to see it. >> mike doesn't like it, but his

wife does. >> what's his real name? >> sherlock. >> no. >> brian cranston is hysterical. >> countdown to the top of the hour, the next hour of "morning joe" starts right now. >> isis is expanding its reach. assault on a military base in northern syria, now fallen under isis control. >> the pentagon has begun planning for air strikes to attack isis targets inside syria. >> syrian foreign minister warned the u.s. against air strikes without the consent of the syrian government. >> what's not complicated is the president's willingness to act decisively in ordering military strikes to protect the american people. >> i'm sorry.

i'm usually willing to talk. >> former virginia governor bob mcdonnell had a tough day on the witness stand. >> michael dry peppered the former governor with question after question. >> the prosecution also taking shots at maureen mcdonnell, admitting his wife received mental health counseling in 2012 and was prescribed medication. >> how tough was it for you to hear what the governor had to say on the stand? emotions running high in missouri after thousands gathered to say good-bye to 18-year-old michael brown. >> it is unnatural for a father to bury a child. none of us can understand the grief. >> the cardinals baseball cap he was wearing when he was killed rest atop his casket. >> 3,500 people were in the church. it was part memorial, part call to action. >> when young people watch nonviolently and you put snipers

on the roof, america, it's time to deal with policing! >> welcome back to "morning joe." a lot to talk about today. but i just -- you know, last hour we were talking about the republicans' responsibility to have, in good faith, deal with the commander in chief as we face this threat that was brought up last hour. over 100 american passports. what, 400 british passports? >> closer to 1,000. >> closer to 1,000 british passports. they can go anywhere they want to go. and they control a land mass larger than the size of a lot of american states. this is an extraordinarily dangerous situation. republicans need to do more than just say i told you so. there's also a responsibility on barack obama. we talk a lot about the, quote, optics of politics. maureen dowd certainly talked about it with her op-ed, talking

about the gulf address. i talked last week how barack obama looked more like spock with a pitching wedge. and he has a responsibility. republicans have responsibility to engage but so does the president of the united states. in three different places over a two-day period this last weekend. i was in florida. i was in alabama, and i was in new york city. and in all three places people would see me. they come up to me in airports, restaurants. all they talked about was the president golfing. all they talked about was the middle east being on fire and the president golfing. they ask, what's he doing? an american gets executed in the most grizzly way ever, the president is out golfing.

in a very strange way i said that may have sent a message to terrorists that we're not going to do anything. >> we're not paying. >> we're not even going to stop our schedule. personally, i couldn't have done that. the president did it. we saw a couple of days later an american was released. so, who the hell knows? maybe the message was sent by the president, seeming to be cold, aloof and distant. i've heard that too many times. he's cold, aloof and distant. and, mike, when i say what i'm about to say, there may be some people out there that don't believe me. i ask you to come back to me the day after barack obama leaves office. and you'll hear it all. democrats are the ones that are most concerned right now. and democrats have a reason to be concerned right now. there's a certain senate candidate, mike -- we won't use a name. but the day after the execution of jim foley and the president going out golfing, few minutes

later, after he had his talk, what happened? >> well, first of all, no one here at this table -- i don't think anybody, with any sense of comprehension about the enormity of the job of being president of the united states denies the president the ability to go on vacation. >> we've said that around this table. i have said it more than anyone else. if the president wants to golf, the president should golf. maureen dowd, you attacked him for golfing. whatever put the president in good place, if it's making peanut butter and jelly sandwiches, that's great. none of russ denying that. there is a point where it starts to look callous. it's all behind us, the president is back from his vacation. moving forward, this guy may not give a damn about optics, but it's time. it's time for us to start doing that. >> well, last week there was one particularly jarring event. he gave a very strong, very emotional response to the execution of james foley. new hampshire resident. and you can check the white

house logs, mark. you know this. within 15 minutes after the conclusion of that address to the nation, he was on the first tee with alonso morning. someone in the white house should have the wherewithal or the common sense, actually, to have said to the president of the united states -- >> not today. >> 3:00, 4:00 in the afternoon, whatever. >> it's not that complicated. the president should be able to take vacations. >> by the way, if presidents take vacations in times of tragedy. democrats even said ronald reagan went golfing the day after the marines were killed in beirut. yes, he did. but this has been constant. it's not just about golfing. it's this president and this white house from the very beginning has not understood that the same rules that apply to other presidents apply to them. optics do matter. george, was it fair that george h.w. bush looked at a scanner like this in a grocery store and was labeled as out of touch? or he looked at his watch three

seconds into the debate and the media freaked out? and he was defined by just an instant, like that. jimmy carter, to kill a rabbit. collapsing in iran. bush 43 looking out a window and staring down at the devastation of hurricane katrina. optics have mattered to other presidents. it matters to this president. how many rounds of golf had he done this year? >> a few. >> this is an important point. let him do what he wants to do. i don't begrudge him. this man golfs more than anybody i personally know in my life. >> but to your point, if playing 18 holes chills him out -- >> exactly. >> -- and stops him from starting world war iii in the middle east. >> let him do it. >> why people keep coming up to you and all of us, talking about this. >> the media -- >> incredible disarray around the world. >> chaos.

>> the people are looking to president to try to fix, punctuated by a horrible death of an american. >> optics matter when they play into -- >> of a president. >> host: a president, aloof, like george bush looking out the window, not really getting the full picture. these particular optics have caused the conversation that they have. >> are you guys hearing -- by the way, these aren't republicans also. >> no. >> i discount republicans when they come up. because they're like me. you say okay, they're naturally against the president. i'm hearing from democrats. >> people don't pay much attention. >> and that's the thing. when i start hearing it like, for instance -- i had an entertainment executive come in last week. he comes in about once every six months. hey, what's going on? what's going on in the world? i ask him what's going on in the entertainment world. i'm sitting there. and he's like, i voted for him twice. word he used. word he used. i'm disgusted.

i said don't be disgusted. the president, he's very difficult f this helps and he's trapped -- he's like in this cocoon. all these security guards t may be the only time the guy feels free. the guy looked at me, liberal democrat, voted for him twice, lives in new york city. he said i'm disgusted. now i'm not disgusted. because i understand the pressure. at the same time, mika, this white house has to get a grip. we're not just talking about golf. we're talking about the president looking -- he has 2 1/2 years to bend history. he has 2 1/2 years to make a difference. he wants, i hear from a lot of people close to him, to be an ex-president. i think he wants bill clinton's life. he has 2 1/2 years to guide us and make a difference. republicans have to work with him to face this crisis. he has to work with republicans. but he also has to show us that

he gives a damn. and right now, i think he does. even though i'm a republican and against his policies. as mark said a lot of civilians don't think he cares anymore. optics are beginning to really matter. >> let's get to the news. defense officials say surveillance aircraft are now flying over syria after president obama gave his approval over the weekend. the campaign reportedly includes manned flights and drones together intelligence on islamic state militants. nbc news chief pentagon jim miklaszewski reports. >> reporter: as the pentagon plans for u.s. air strikes against isis in syria, terrorist forces remain defiant, overrunning and seizing a military air base inside northern syria. >> can they be defeated without addressing that part of their organization, which resides in syria? the answer is no.

>> reporter: u.s. sources tell nbc news american air strikes would be aimed at isis forces, weapons and critical supply lines between iraq and syria and could be launched across the border from inside iraq. syria's foreign minister warned monday that such cross attacks would violate international law and syria's sovereignty. u.s. officials fear that a handful of americans who have joined isis could return to the u.s. to launch terrorist attacks. counterterrorism experts predict the u.s. will be forced to go on the offensive to launch air strikes into syria. in a week that saw the barbaric killing of american james foley at the hands of isis, a brief moment of relief. curtis was freed sunday by a separate terrorist group in syria. for his mother, nancy curtis, it was a moment of sheer joy, mixed with deep sorrow. >> i grieve with the foleys and

the other families and i share their pain. so i'm glad for -- i'm glad for me and for theo, but i cannot say i'm elated. >> the united states is criticizing secret air strikes that were launched against militias in libya. u.s. officials say the strikes were carried out without knowledge of egypt. >> totally preposterous. >> it's preposterous. >> arab nations strike in libya surprising u.s. that is truly preposterous. >> if anyone thinks they're going to commit strikes without notifying us first is living in -- over thrown and killed

gadhafi, u.s. says the outside interference is a threat to democracy but egypt denies being responsible. the embassy was closed last month as militias gained control of tripo will. i's airport. two high rise buildings in gaza city were attacked. one collapsed and the other severely damaged. no deaths were reported. israel fired nonexplosive missiles to warn residents of what was coming. >> we're really starting to see the palestinian authority now talking about going it alone, going to the united nations. u.s. talks look like they're starting to break down. if that happens they'll make step that is israel doesn't want them to make, talking about human rights abuses. so, the time is ticking on john kerry and the united states being able to bring these sides together. if they don't, palestinians are going to go it alone. not good news for america. not good news for israel. a full day of tributes as

thousands came together to say good-bye to michael brown. the 18-year-old was laid to rest after an emotional funeral service in st. louis. honoring his father's wishes, protesters stayed off the streets as the focus remained on the life of the young man kill bid police two weeks ago. reverend al sharpton said there must be justice for brown's death and it should serve as a wake-up call to the country. >> no community in america would tolerate an 18-year-old boy laying in the street 4 1/2 hours and we're not going to tolerate it either. whatever happened, the value of this boy's life must be answered by somebody. michael brown does not want to be remembered for a riot. he wants to be remembered as the one that made america deal with how we're going to police in the united states.

>> we can't have a fit. we've got to have a movement. a fit, you get mad and run out for a couple of nights. a movement means we've got to be here for the long haul and turn our chants into change, our demonstration into legislation. we have got to stay on this so we can stop this. >> man. >> think he has ever preached before? >> i think he has done this before. >> good first try. >> asked to be there by the family and he brought it. >> coming up on "morning joe," heartache for wine lovers around the world as napa valley vine yard owners clean up a physical

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california's strongest earthquake in 25 years. area wineries may have hundreds of millions of dollars in damages and they're going to need weeks to determine just how much. let's bring in nbc's halle jackson live in napa valley, california. hallie? >> reporter: i'm standing in front of what used to be the tasting room. it looks more like a fun house this morning. this thn thing is leaning. you can see where the building buckled from the quake on sunday. the family here is trying to get back to business as usual, but this is some of the worst damage we've seen in wine country. at robert viali vineyard, owner is still cleaning up and counting up the costs. >> a new leak or something that's sitting funny and not right. >> reporter: an all-too familiar sight as vineyards in napa

valley take stock of the 6.0 quake. industry with a $50 billion on the national economy. vast mantle of the approximately 430 wineries in napa are family owned. >> we have a lot of clean up to do. you've seen it in the napa community. it's here, too. everyone is banding together to do it. >> there are those who came out absolutely unscathed and there are those that could lose, you know, 10, 20% of their production. >> reporter: most say they don't expect the price of a bottle to go up but it could take weeks to understand the full impact of the destruction. as california struggles with an historic drought. >> it is a double what mmy. we'll get through this. >> reporter: making sure he can salvage something from a year's worth of work. >> a lot of blood, sweat and tears and now even more tears. >> reporter: imagine seeing that

all the work you've done to get this wine ready to go spilling out on the floor on sunday. one interesting point here, though. even though mother nature dealt wine makers a blow on sunday, she's helping out this week. vineyards are saying because it is cooler here in napa valley at the time being there's not a big rush to get the grapes off the vine and harvested. if vineyards have production equipment that's been damage friday the quake. a little bit of good news, little bit of silver lining for the vineyards in this area. >> hallie jackson, thank you very much. we go from wine to cereal. >> again, we disagree, mika, about a lot of things when it comes to food. >> yeah. >> but not cereal. >> we have similar habits. >> we are both cereal freaks. i was telling katty that sometimes i'll have grape nuts for dinner. and it was -- it freaked her out. she said that's just weird. >> i will have a big bowl of cereal. >> member of parliament that was found in his stockings or

something. >> is eating half a box bad or even the whole box? >> she's very compulsive. especially when it's crunch berries. >> the head of data and research for bloomberg business week -- i know it's bad. co-wrote a piece on the website for why cereal is missing the recent breakfast boom. what is that? he writes in part, this. according to nielsen data breakfast is on -- >> on the whole -- >> breakfast, on the whole, is growing. $8.5 billion industry, egg sandwiches, sausages, cereal bars and pastries are catching up. since 2004, the fraction of people who say that breakfast is the most important meal of the day has risen from 54% to 58%. who did this start with? >> why aren't people doing what joe and mika do? >> i eat it at the end of the day. >> i think that's what it is.

people are eating it at the end of the day and not for breakfast. >> uh-huh. >> like i said to you in the break i found an article of yours from four years ago where you said you used to eat grape nuts for breakfast and then you switched to kind bars and coffee. that's what we see, right? >> eric does his research. >> that's what we see. you set the trend. we'll ask you what you eat for breakfast and we don't need the numbers. look what happened from five years ago, the interest in people who wanted protein, that's gone up. >> yes. >> the interest in people who wanted caffeine, that's gone up. do you know what's gone down? the interest in calcium, vitamins, fiber, organics. remember those buzz words five and ten years ago? >> they're made up of carbs, though. >> people want nongmo, nonhigh fructose corn syrup. people don't want cereal anymore. and there's fewer kids. >> we read and you always talk about diet. we've been talking about these stories the last couple of month

that is have come out and people are talking about protein, protein, protein and all these things we did to get away from fat made us morrow bees, less healthy. >> it's skewed. >> when i have breakfast at a normal time, i want that cereal and then i'm like, what's the protein? >> that's what the companies, kellogg's, general mills. their strategies now is to remind you, hey, there's protein in this box of cereal. for example, you see cheerios now. there's a giant word, "protein" on it to remind you it's still cheerios. >> you just have to eat the whole box like i do. >> what did you say about obama and optics? same thing with cereal. it's just optics. if they can convince you to have it. >> you walk down the aisle in the supermarket and look at the cereals. occasionally i do with my kids and you can't help thinking the box contains more nutrients than the cereal inside it. >> that's the issue. most people care more about

breakfast now. vitamins are not as big of a deal anymore, just protein. people care less about low carb. they care more about more protein but they're not worried about carbs. in the article, people think cereal is even a bigger component, being the most important meal of the day. we've actually gotten more serious about it. >> it's the protein bar industry. if you go to some of these -- like whole foods, whatever. it is multimillion dollar. there are so many. and you pay like four bucks or something for one bar. it's ridiculous. >> have you ever had a protein bar? >> i have actually. frosted flakes and shredded mini wheats. >> ew. >> is it my imagination or are more people petrified of losing their jobs leaving for work earlier in the day, stopping at a drive-through mcdonalds, dunkin' donuts, starbucs? >> yes. that's getting really big. you look at cereal, that's a $9

billion industry. fast food breakfast is a $45 billion industry. what did we see today? burger king and tim horton together. another breakfast strategy. people are not staying in their house and eating. it's all on the go. bars and going out to burger king. >> the healthiest thing for me was? >> chocolate croissant. >> i love my chocolate croissant. >> moving to connecticut, they don't have drive-thrus. >> right. >> there would be none there. >> there is a drive-thru mcdonald's in westport. >> how often do you go? >> well, westport is a little ways away from me. >> he makes it there every day. >> but if i go to westport, they make great sweet tea. >> oh, stop. eric, thank you so much. i like it. >> and he did his research on you. those bloomberg guys --

>> whatever you're eating now, that's what we're going to talk about in five years. >> what are you eating now for breakfast? >> you're making me nervous. cheerios actually. >> it's coming back to cereal. >> it's packed with protein. >> endorsement by cheerios. brian cranston picks up his emmy but not before he paid tribute to one of his cast members. >> to my television wife extraordinary air, i love you and especially those scenes in bed. finally -- >> my god. don't hold back. full highlights from the emmys are next. she inspires you.

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last week, billy and i took to the streets of new york city. take a look. >> true or false, maggie smith doesn't give a [ bleep ] about these award. >> true. >> yes, correct. thank you. >> sir, for a dollar, who is your favorite talk show host, jimmy fallon, jimmy kimmel or seth meyers?

>> jimmy fallon. >> who is the host of this year's emmys? >> he's standing right next to me. >> seth mcfarland. >> no, how dare you! >> a troef. >> i what kind of trophy? >> the academy. >> what do they call this one? >> gold one. >> what? what did you say? excuse me? what? i don't know what word she's saying. >> it is the e -- >> anniversary? >> no. damn it! >> that is so awesome. >> i need to see more of that. joining us now that gugenheim media oversees content. good to have you back. >> traditional, very boring

broadcast. >> it could have been 2010, 2009 on this award show. it was all a throwback. the same people winning over and over and over again. "modern family," yes, it's a good show. it is sort of waiting a little bit in terms of what people think about it, what critics think about it. "mom," a show on cbs, alison jenning. jim parsons coming back for another win. they're all great people. what the show was ignoring was the whole movement, the revolution that's supposed to be happening in cable and netflix. >> it's almost like "the empire strikes back." >> yes. >> you almost get a sense that they said to themselves we're going to prop up broadcast. >> yes. >> and we're going to kick netflix in the face. >> can they do that? >> i am dead serious. there had to be a conscientious effort. >> i know. >> this did not add up. >> this is one case where the

conspiracy could be true. 16,000 members of the television academy. and they pick the nominees but then what happens is only a few dozen people pick the winners and they're volunteers and you can think about who is willing to volunteer their time to be a voter in the final process? it could be people invested in the current business model threatened by cable networks. >> it is interesting to see how cable is finally breaking through. because they used to be the young upstarts that were nipping at the heels of the networks. they're finally being rewarded, like "breaking bad" on its way off. they're getting a kiss-off and get awarded up against a lot of tough talent in that category, "downton abby." "modern family" up against the big bang theory, "louie,"

"orange is the new black." julianna margulies from "the good wife," broadcast award. >> outstanding lead actor in a drama series, brian cranston. >> he does deserve that one. >> unbelievable. >> i don't know how you give anybody else -- those mark halperin is said, emotionally disconnected until a guy that i like an awful lot, john hamm wins one of these. >> one more shot or will be completely shut out, never win an emmy for don draper, one of the greatest characters in the history of television, long history of television. >> but "breaking bad," best actor, best supporting actress and best supporting actor. huge, huge! >> they got rewarded. outstanding lead actor in a comedy series. you brought this up before with jim parsons being rewarded before and here he is, once again. this is a guy that makes $1

million an episode now. >> yes. >> certainly he is well thought of over at cbs. this show still does great in the numbers for them. >> i think there is -- you know, probably a little bit unlike the academy awards for television, there is a reward in the emmys for commercial success and the television business model is so challenged right now that i think these voting members want to see ratings rewarded and "the big bang theory" is a huge hit. the critics may never sit there and talk about it the way they do "orange is the new black." america's taste is very different from what people in los angeles think. >> there's a controversy about sofa vegara and the whole thing with the turn table. what is that? revolving pedestal she was put on. what's your gut? what was your reaction? >> you know, uncomfortable. >> was it a badly pulled off joke? >> wow! i think there's a very fine line on award shows.

i think they're trying to have talkable moments from that show last night. this is one, maybe not in the way they would like. look at the vmas two nights ago, you have nikki minaj and her rear end. this one probably felt a little off to too many people. >> it's her schtick. >> i would love to have a meeting where they said, yes, no. yeah, let's do that. >> i wonder if it was like the wrong guy to do the joke or something. because maybe if it's someone who is just known to be notoriously hilarious, it would have been, you know, clearer. >> i don't know how they got there. i can understand somebody going, okay, nobody listens, so why don't we do this? everybody would laugh. and they go, yeah, but that's just not appropriate. >> it just didn't work. >> they're always trying to sex up these shows. emmys and oscars feel like old people shows. >> i've seen so much worse. >> yes. >> we all have. i just think it went -- it was sort of just awkward. it didn't work. >> so, a boring broadcast, what do they need to do to make it

more interesting next year? >> it's hard to say. by the very nature of having to award multiple awards to lots of shows that many people don't watch, it's challenging. these are people who are very interested in coming across as proper and not rocking the boat if you're in television. >> no. >> you don't want to be nikki minaj or miley swift. >> miley swift. >> nobody wants to twerk. hollywood loves to reward itself. you see hosts get killed who go after the audience too much, who go after the celebrities too much. it just doesn't happen. >> they had that funny moment with weird al. he came out and did the montage of re-creating a lot of the theme songs. that was funny. >> on twitter last night it was funny. who would have thought the best emmys moment is weird al yankovic? >> only nostradamus. >> janice min, thank you so much. great to have you.

>> thank you. is burger king the next major u.s. company looking to dodge taxes? >> yes. imagine that one. >> their move north of the border. sara eisen joins us for business before the bell. all right, all right, all right! come on back to the air stream after. i'll make the best margarita this side of the r-i-o grande. >> i go to my friend woody, thoughtful man and friend. i said, woody, you know, you always seem to keep it pretty cool. what do you do when you've got a problem or conflict coming up in your life? he lowers his head for about 15, 20 seconds. he looks back up to me and looks right in my eyes, deep into my soul and he says, i just forget about it. that's true. it's incredible how you do that. >> it works. it really does work.

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lot of sources come out of this deal and say there are other major strategic reasons to get this deal done. in fact, it doesn't lower burger king's tax rate that much. it should help them in the long term. right now at least that's not the main story. they're looking at expanding tim horton's around the globe, getting into the coffee business, high margin, very good business right now. donuts, we know a lot about breakfast. taco bell is getting into it. >> why doesn't it lower the tax -- a point of a lot of these corporate inversions is so that they can avoid taxes in the united states. >> it definitely does. here is the thing. with burger king, it already pays an effective tax rate of 27.5, less than the u.s. tax rate. canada, 15% sounds very low, that's their federal tax rate. it's higher than that because of local taxes. in the end, several years down the road, it will help burger king with its tax bill, no question about it. right now burger king doesn't have a lot of cash overseas that it has to bring back and pay

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mika, it's one of those days, i wish we had four hours. there's so much to talk about. >> i know. >> we talked about al sharpton's speech. conservatives. byron york tweet, i retweeted it. and talking about the two parts of al sharpton's speech, one talking about the policing. the second, a challenge to the black community. and said we've got to stop having, quote, ghetto pity parties and we've got to be outraged by our disrespect for each other, our disregard for each other, and he lamblasted people. he said we've got to clean up our communities so we can clean up america. it is a really strong statement. >> strong rhetoric. byron york struck by this. using up his allotment of tweets on this al sharpton speech.

a lot of people will never take what reverend sharpton says without invoking his past. but if you just take his language and the strength of what he said about the african-american community, it's quite striking. byron points out not getting as much coverage as it might. >> we need to talk about it tomorrow. >> will do. 1969 song "he ain't heavy, he's my brother." those words could be used to describe the bond between two young brothers from idaho. >> reporter: there is no better place to begin this story of lucas and his brother, noah, than inside a playroom brimming with star wars themed legos. between these two idaho boys, the force is strong. >> just seeing lucas having fun just makes me happy. >> reporter: their special bond can be seen in baby photos when lucas was diagnosed with a rare

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mika, what have you learned? >> i learned that we want to thank kurt herbstreet. >> he was great. wasn't he great? >> he was fun. previewing college football. check out allstate cfb.com. watch the first-ever college football playoff national championship with kurt. >> are you kidding me? >> to mark the tenth annivers y anniversary. >> very good cause. very good guy. i'm going to go online. i would love to watch the championship with kurt. >> what have you learned ? >> you have a treat in store. you haven't seen sherlock yet. >> no. >> great stuff. what did you learn, thomas? >> i don't need to watch the third hour of the emmys on my dvr. >> no, you're good.

>> i'm sorry. >> and jackson. >> how would that go? >> sugar bowl. >> i learned your show should have been four hours today. >> it should have been. >> it should have been. >> four hours with so much more to talk about. we also saw the first part of what reverend al sharpton had to say. the second part was a tough, tough challenge to the black community. said some words we can't say on tv. i mean, it was -- >> i predict it will go viral today thanks to this discussion. >> i think it will go viral. when he said some of his toughest things about the black community and the challenge to the black community, the camera shot away, spike lee, on their feet, giving him standing ovation. this is really the same message he delivered when we had a special up at apollo last year. >> amazing. >> mika, if it's way too early, what time is it? >> it's time for "morning joe." but now it's time for chuck todd, live from new york.

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