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balart, and our first focus is on the isis terror threat in syria and iraq and how congress and the president will con front it. the takeover of an air base in northeastern syria, one graphic image which we're not showing, appears to show masked gunmen shooting several men kneeling on the ground. a law enforcement official tells nbc news, it appears likely a second u.s. born citizen was killed fighting with isis terrorists in syria last weekend. the administration has confirmed douglas mcarthur mccain, was the first american killed fighting for the isis cause. american journalist steven sotlov who -- sotlov's mother made a direct emotional appeal to the isis leader. >> as a mother, i ask the

justice to be merciful and not punish my son for matters he has no control over. i asked you to use your authority to spare his life and to follow the example set by the profit mohammed who protected people of the book. >> it's against this backdrop that has president obama weighing what to expand the u.s. air strike campaign to islamic targets in syria. urging him to have congress vote on whether to give the president authorizization to expand the military mission. let's bring in nbc's -- who joins us from our london bureau. two american citizens are now believed to have been killed fighting for isis in syria. there may be dozens of other isis fighters in syria? >> we also have a video that was put out by isis that was also

responsible for a suicide bombing that was believed to be a syrian military outpost. that video was released by isis that showed an american citizen. we know there are definitely american citizens in the ranks of isis. obviously others that we just mentioned carrying out that suicide bombing attack. there's no doubt that u.s. officials are concerned about it. they estimate the number of americans believed to be isis is believed to be 50 to 70. it's not only americans that pose a threat to the united states, because they're acquiring battle skills or new techniques on the battlefield, it's also europeans, europeans who have pass ports that can also have easy access to the united states. if they go to the battlefield, learn these skills and then come back with the intent of trying to harm the u.s. or its interests in the region.

what do terrorism experts tell you, that this could possibly have as far as an impacts. it's a very emotional video. he's trying to appeal to his captives. she makes reference to the profit mohammed and that's certainly trying to appeal on a religious level and that's the religion -- it's unlikely and that's perhaps not the news that she wants to hear, but it's unlikely from an organization that's engaged in mass execut n executions and these types of beheadings on a daily basis. that that there is some kind of

tactical gain to be made that would be more a likely scenario, that there could be a notion, and ultimately a release. they have made demands in the past asking for some of its members and supporters. >> this is congress may weigh in, isis. >> the speaker of the house. >> authorizing air strikes in sere.

it's in afghanistan and iraq, and so coming back and volting on something like exp d expanding the military in a combat role. it's something that these lawmakers are going to want to do. but at the same time, they don't feel that they should be left out of what's increase. >> i going to be an american expansion engagement over there, which is now you're starting to see them starting to get antsy. president obama is also going to want to -- he doesn't want to go into syria either. it was just a year ago that we all got geared up in thinking that president obama was going to authorize strikes in syria. this time in support of moderate syrian opposition to president

assad and in the end he didn't do it. this is not something they're going into very lightly. which is why they're doing this broad encompassing allies in the reyoung. consult with the europeans e consulting with congress. >> yeah, and you know, what's changed all of this discussion of course is foley and they have sotlov and the time is ticking and we don't know how many other americans they have hostage right now. what options does the president have in iraq and syria. >> well, let me separate the two of them first, because you could -- you know, there are people and isis made the argument that the whole reason they beheaded james foley was because of the american air strikes. the united states can still attempt another hostage rescue as they did in the past. but when you're looking at

options both in iraq and syria, they're pretty limited. we have a little bit more leeway in iraq, the united states because of our presence there pretty much controls the iraqi air space, air space militarily, so when it comes to air strikes there, we're fine. syria is a different story. the syrian government does have some air defense capability. although it's hard to imagine that president assad is going to try to take down any american planes that were going after isis, since isis is there trying to get rid of him. it becomes a little move difficult, actually a lot more difficult and a lot more co complicated when it goes to steera. you could use drones, you could launch tom ma -- american

fighter planes can go and come out that they're there. there are a lot of different ways the president could handle this, but it's complicated. this is a war that president obama has not wanted to wage for a long time. >> r. >> thank you so much, pentagon correspondent eileen cooper for being with us, appreciate your time. i want to bring in some breaking news that you're seeing on the bottom of your screen. apparently at 4:00 p.m. eastern time, 1:00 p.m. pacific time. the president is expected to meet with his national security counsel. what does this mean? why are we being told that this is going to happen today at 4:00? these are issues that are important that we know about, because there is clearly movement on the issue of how to deal with isis. we're going to be of course keeping you updated on that story as well on this hour. and i want to bring in sarah

shore, she along with her future husband shane bauer and josh fattal were imprisoned bier rang while hiking along the iran border. scar are was released on human tearian grounds. >> when we think of foley and we think of this other young man still in the hands of isis, we thought of you, and your time, in custody, there are obviously differences, you were held by a government, these are paramilitary terrorist group. but i imagine what you went through, took a tool on your psyche. and we're talking about two dwimpt situati different situations, but tell us a little bit about what s

oro soflov might be go through under isis? >> it's hard for me to even go there. when i heard about james foley, i went back to my time as a hostage in iran. i thought about how demoralizing it was to hear about europeans being released and not having -- journalists and americans who are reporting and studying and doing humanitarian work in the middle east need to flow that the u.s. government has their backs. these people make huge sacrifices for our country. and take incredible risks, we need to tell of government to do anything that it can to bring them home safely. >> so when you say the government has its back and should have their back. what are you suggesting it does that doesn't already do? >> well, i was -- our case was negotiated by the amani

government, so it's often possible to use third parties t other recent case of the reporter in syria that was released, that was held -- that was negotiated by the government of qatar. that's not always possible. and with groups like the islamist state, sometimes you have to negotiate directly. and the time of james foley's murder, one of the most disturbing things for me to find out was that over a dozen hostages, european hostages that were held alongside him in the same prison had just been released, negotiated by the european union, ransom was paid, those people were freed and james foley, obviously was murdered. i just -- >> it's tough. >> i think about it a lot with someone like james foley. i mean the reporting from that afghanistan and libya, is irreplaceable. not to mention what his family is going through. i can't go there. it's unthinkable for me. >> right, sarah, i want to --

and i appreciate your time and i know this is a sensitive issue and i'm so grateful to you. but i just want to understand from someone who had their freedom taken away from them, like you and your friends had for so many months in iran. what is it -- how do you survive? how do you go day after day after day when your fate, your future, your life is in someone else's hands and you're in this different world on so many levels? how do you go through your day? how do you succeed under those circumstances? >> it's the state of complete uncertainty, i had no idea what my fate would be. and i just had to -- i think i had a lot of reason to have hope. i believed that it was unlikely even though we were charged with espionage that the political consequences would be too great. so i held on to that shred of

hope and it got me through every day. and i thought about my family back home. and i thought no matter what, i'm going to fight to be as whole as possible if and when i get home to them. >> and sarah, very quickly, any words you want to say to sotlov's mom who had that appeal to isis? >> i just want her to know that she's not alone, and that i'm sure her son feels her with him and that it's helping him every day. >> sarah short, thanks for being with us. i so appreciate your time. thanks. >> thank you. coming up, i want you to see these pictures. record setting waves whipping up on the west coast and there's danger in the water on the east coast as well. but first, we know president obama is getting set to take action on immigration at any time and the fallout could be

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funding the government if the president acts alone. white house press secretary josh ernest says, none of this will deter the president from taking action. joining me now to talk immigration and the government shutdown threat. democratic congressman, good to see you again. thanks. >> good to see you, jose. >> let's talk about this whole marco rubio and steve king alliance on the threat of maybe shutting down the government if the president acts unilaterally, something the president's saying he's going to have to do because congress downtown have anything to do about immigration? >> the whole issue, there's a -- receive king and his rhetoric is not going to change. marco rubio is a disappointment. although we have a different definition of what immigration reform is, you know, i saw a willingness to at least talk about the issue, his original work with a gang of 8 in the senate, that piece of legislation has languished there

for a year. because the house won't bring it to a vote on the house floor. the president's presented bush shells of carrots to republican leadership in congress in order to move some compromised legislation. all of this has been rejected. so we're down to a final option. we're administering relief, will help many, many families and communities across this country. will quell some of the unrest that we're seeing in the communities and the racial overtones that continue to build around the issue. the president on a domestic issue, of this size is doing the right thing by not being deterred. >> congressman, what specifically -- sorry to interrupt, but you say you hope it's bold, it won't be deterred and that something of this magnitude and this issue specifically, what are you calling the president to do specifically about immigration and what numbers are we talking about? who would this benefit or

affect? >> the numbers that have been tossed around, we're talking about doca eligible recipients, we're talking about parole in place, we're talking about deferred action, we're talking about family unification strategy, redefining and clarifying what extreme hardship, the hispanic caucus and others have presented a template to the administration, they have it and when the president makes his announcement, we'll be able to gauge how much of that he took into account. but the fact remains that whatever the president does, the theatrics that we're seeing from senator rubio, in terms of shutting down the government and punishing every american for their lack of action, i think is the height in hypocrisy to be honest with you. >> where do we go from there? they're saying the president should be consulting with

congress, even a congress that doesn't do anything with immigration, it's their responsibility to act or to not act. if he does go along with kp executive action on immigration, do you think this is going to have an impact on the november races coming up? >> i think a candidate, in my state here in arizona, the republican running for governor is going to double down, has he already has on his anti-immigrant. he sees it as a wedge issue to be elected governor. you also have democrats and some type races that feel that any action by the president to provide relief is going -- i really believe that we're kind of reaching a point here, in terms of this issue of immigration reform, that the president is the last option, there are calculations political and social that have to be taken into account. but at the end of the day, given

congress and republican congress's neglect of the issue to accuse the president of overstepping his power, because he has taken action and congress hasn't, i think we're past that date and i'm looking forward to what the president announces in terms of his executive action. >> carson, real briefly, you just said the social consequences, early you said the racial animosity bubbling under the surface. what are you talking about? >> the issue of immigration that for a while was sanitized, we just talked about immigration, and a federal policy that needed to be reformed, jose, what has happened is that more and more of the rhetoric has racial undertones and overtones and in many parts of core community, for those people of color, in particular, latinos that are fourth, fifth generation, they see this as a civil rights

issue. they're being demoralized by the steve kings of the world. so the anxiety continues to nk now with the community also have the dialogue in their communities away from the relate trick and i hope the president can help deal with that. >> what we do no is that sooner rather than later, the president is going to act unilaterally on the issue. we'll continue to have that conversation. thank you congressman for being with us. appreciate your time. >> coming up, crews have made more than 100 rescues in two days, thanks to scadaredevils trying to surf on 25-foot waves, we'll go out to california where the surf's up. >> it has the power to kill and so respect that. if i can impart one lesson to a

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are keeping the water behind me away from the homes that are in front of me. so far they have taken a beating, but they are holding. it has been dicey over the last 48 hours, there have been 140 rescues, at least 140 rescues by life guards all across this region. pulling people out of rip tides, as well as other strong currents that have been sucking folks out. life guards say they haven't seen conditions like this in 25 years, and they're warning everyone to stay out of the water, although not everyone is heeding that warning. so many daredevil jusurfers are coming from all across this region. up the coast in malibu, people have been gathering to watch thousands of surfers take their chances in the water. fortunately there's been no fatalities, crews say that could all change at the drop of a dime. beach front properties, as well

as piers and boats that are tossed ashore. nye re they're going to be in a dangerous situation, the waves only getting bigger throughout the day. >> it's ironic, getting right into the ocean, my question is, do people realize just how possibly mortal these things can be? >> absolutely. the life guards have been out here for the last couple of days, they run up and down the beaches here, warning people to stay out of the water, warning them to get off the beach, they can't physically and legally keep people from surfing or from staying in the water. so those guys have been going in there all day long. the swell here is probably close to ten feet. typically this time of year, it's about two feet. so it's substantially bigger. yesterday, those waves were twice this size, but we're not at high tide yet, but we're

going to continue to see surfers going into that water. a precarious situation and what life guards will tell you, a very dangerous situation. >> miguel, thank you, appreciate your time. coming up, syria, iraq, right now the middle east -- -- we'll talk to the man who made this documentary, he went into syria and libya, where he knew the american beheaded by isis, james foley.

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meeting with his national security team. all kinds of teams dealing with terrorism. the terrorism group isis has been gaining ground in iraq and syria for a month. but this really grabbed americans' attention. since his death, we have now learned about other americans being held captives by isis. we have also learned about americans who have joined isis and are nighting with the group. and it continues it's reign of terror. matthew van dike has been right in the middle of the danger zone in syria, he was also held captive in libya, and now he's heading to iraq. thanks so much for being with us, we really appreciate your time. in fact you knew james foley, you're also a friend of steven sotlov. what kind of impact are their stories having on you. >> it's had a very personal

impact on me. i saw james just a couple of weeks before he disappeared. these are good friends of mine, they were both aware of the risks, but the story needed to be told, so they went, but yeah, it certainly makes me even more cautious about my security moving forward. >> and you felt the documentary in syria sharing the story of two syrian rebels. talk to me about the current situation here, by the way, the images you have are mind-blow g mind-blowing. >> what is it you saw in syria, how can you extrapolate what you saw in syria, to help us understand the situation there today? >> i filmed in iraq, afghanistan, i have filmed and was fighting actually in lib yar libya, but syria is the most dangerous place i have been. it's a black hole where people

disappear. run across the street to avoid snipers, kidnapping for profit, kidnapping for political reasons, kidnap for hostage exchanges. it's completely insane. >> matthew, you talk about syria has a black hole from which people don't ever come out. we're actually talking about the possibility, certainly the president's considering the possibility of bombing isis in syria. you know, i think it's pretty clear we should never underestimate the dictator of that country, but do you any there are real perils about americans getting involved in air campaigns in syria? >> absolutely. any air campaign should be accompanied by support to the modern opposition on the ground, which will be essential to defeating isis anyway. the idea that the united states is now. >> to ally be the regime that they have already announced. the u.s. position is already for regime change. i don't think we're going to ally with assad, but fighting

assad's battle alone without supporting the opposition, it seems like a nonstarter to me. >> this is such a complicated story, the state accident reporting that a second american was killed fighting for isis, this is after we learned about the american, douglas mcarthur mccain that was killed by islamic militants. what do you think of americans fighting for isis. how is it that they're willing to fight and die for this horrible cause? >> some of them are adventurous, there are reports that some jih jih jihadis have lit federally bought the book, islamist for dummies, so some of them start out with a very limbed grasp of their own religion. a lot of recruitment is taking place online and radicalization as well.

but they go over there, and after a few months fighting with isis, they are definitely indoctrinated into the fundmentalist philosophy. >> matthew, i have covered wars for 30 years now, i have spent two years in el salvador in the mid 80s, but i did so as a journalist, but you've crossed the line, you've actually gone in there and taken another step. why and what do you plan to accomplish. and why are you doing? >> in 201 1rks i fought in the revolution in libya. the reason was i had been there previously and i had a very good friend. so it was very personal to me. when i joined that fight during that time i was also captured and spent about six months as a prisoner of war. when i went to syria, i was a filmmaker in support of the revolution, i was not fighting in syria. and, you know, for me, it's causes that i believe in, in

libya, it was intensely personal because of good friends i had there. so it's -- i believe when you believe in something, you should do something to support it, not just sit on your sofa at home giving a thumbs-up to your television. >> matthew van dike, you certainly aren't doing that, i want to have you back shortly when you get back from there. i appreciate your time. thanks. coming up, the president told me last year, he's no king, but that hasn't stopped the saber rattling by republicans. but first a look along the west coast, a gaood day to stay out of the weather and stay out of the water.

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the president is expected to take executive action on immigration any stay now. it could shut down the government and throw the midterms for a loop. here's what senator rand paul said just last night. >> i support speaker boehner's legal fight to say the president can't just do what he want, he's not a king. he has to really get approval from congress.

>> and that they both agree. so how far will the president's immigration actions go? and what the political fallout may be joining me now is a -- i'll start with the president. if he takes sweeping action around immigration, would it have some affect on the midterms? >> the administration -- what started was the impeachment talk. and beautiful what you have now is the government shutdown and steve king, and marco rubio, an unlikely alliance in many ways. with the government shutdown, that shows that once again the

american people are seeing the republicans shutting downing the government. >> it's just not funny, because the president has been begging, really he's saying i'm not going to do anything until congress deals with the immigration issue, he has been so clear that what he really wants and what this country needs according to is immigration reform that comes out of the lettin the legislatie big pressure on the white house from his own party is one of the democrats from louisiana, north carolina, in competitive races, they are concerned that this will only whip up republican base, not a lot latinos, both the concern for the white house and for harry reid and for other senate democrats to manintain control, they believe this could

be the we saw that on the border crisis, when the house was really trying to pass that funding, it went and moved far to the right, reduced the amount of re -- so that's the other option, and there's also al of pressure from information advocates so they're tired of waiting, the president needs to act, and the president needs support from his own constituency there. >> the senate immigration bill that was passed more than a year ago, they said it was going to be a huge pass for the economy. congressmen saying he's not respecting the checks and

balances, the fact is that the president isn't king? >> yeah, you know, that's true, but what you see is really interesting is a switch among republicans that we're supporting immigration principles. you look at marco rubio and how far he's come. he was at an event the other day with a funding raiser, one of the people in the crowd put their hands around the neck of a dreamer, he said you people are here and you're doing damage to your cause, and you don't have the right to immigration here legally. there has been change among the republicans as well. that a's important to remember, i think. what you're going to see here in the next couple of months, i remember the white house was talking about maybe it was going to be october 1, maybe end of the summer. something's coming down the pipeline so quickly.

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good morning, everyone. i'm tamron hall, and this is news nation. the white house announced in just the past hour, president obama will meet with his top national security advisors this afternoon too discuss the threat posed by isis. it comes as the president considers whether to order air strikes against isis in syria. meantime, we are learning new details about a second american

believed to have been killed fighting for isis in syria, in this battle sunday near aleppo, we're learning he could be from the same minnesota town as douglas macarthur mccain. another major development, the u.s. launched new air strikes against isis in northern iraq yesterday. those strikes came on the same day the mother of american journalist sotlov is threatening to kill issued an emotional plea to the leader of isis. >> i ask you to please release my child. as a mother, i ask your justice to be merciful and not punish my son for matters he has no control over. i want what every mother wants, to lives to see her children's children. i plead with you to grant me this.