president plans to meet with his national security council on the situation there in iraq and syria. and the isis threat. >> the threat from isil has increased over the last several months. it's not limited by borders. it's not just in iraq. and to the people of iraq. it's to the countries in the region. and it's to the global community. and that's why the president and the national security team are looking at options. >> this on the heels of word that a second american jihadist was killed fighting for isis. this is the firefight u.s. officials killed two american isis fighters in syria on sunday. the first 33-year-old douglas macarthur mccain from minnesota. and isis just released these propaganda images today an social media after taking over an air base in northeastern syria. news out of the middle east, 43 united nations peacekeepers operating on the syrian side of the golan heights have been

detained, according to the u.n. 81 more peacekeepers are trapped in that same area which is just across the border from israel. it's an area that is heavily land mined. yesterday fighters aligned with al qaeda-linked al nusra front, reportedly took control of the area. at least 20 people died in fighting there. according to an opposition information group. and in ukraine, president poroshenko is charging that's russian forces invaded his country early this morning. something that russia denies. poroshenko called an emergency meeting of his security council and canceled a foreign trip. the prime minister there warned the situation is getting worse. >> we urge the u.n. and the united states to frozen all russian assets until russia pulls back its forces. >> russian separatists are reportedly now in control of a strategic town in southeastern

ukraine fueling fears that this could open a new front in an already deadly conflict between russia and ukraine. back here in the states, the fbi and secret service are investigating a massive cyberattack an u.s. banks. jpmorgan chase is among the at least five financial institutions that were targeted. investigators say that hackers scooped up a large amount of data on customers and on bank employees. the attacks came in a series carried out earlier this month, and there are signs that they originated in russia and could possibly be in retaliation to use sanctions. senator kirsten gillibrand is detailing sexist encounters she's endured on capitol hill. according to an excerpt from her new book "off the sidelines," she writss that a male colleague once called her porky after she gave birth in the congressional gym, that's where the encounter occurred. the unnaumd colleague told the

new york democrat, good thing you're working out because you wouldn't want to get porky. and she says another congressman told her, you know, kirsten, you're even pretty when you're fat. gillibrand writes, i believed his intentions were sweet, even if he was being an idiot. but as we await that national security meeting on isis, we have some new propaganda from the extremist group. they claim to have killed dozens of syrian soldiers as they seized a strategic air base over the weekend and have just released new photos and video as proof of isis brutality. the tabqa air bies, a vital government stronghold, fell an sunday. images put out on social media show fighters waving isis flags standing on syrian army jets, holding up knives in front of kneeling men in syrian army uniforms. men that isis says it executed by the dozens. thyself new claims come as the

u.s. weighs whether to extend its air strikes on isis into syria. ayman mohyeldin joins me from london. late last night we know the u.n. accused isis of crimes against humanity. how do you think that and the new claims of brutality could impact the u.s.' decision of whether or not to launch air strikes inside syria? >> i think it helps make the case for u.s. officials that what they are witnessing inside syria at the hands of isis is a major violation of all international laws and norms. there is nothing revolutionary or rebellious about isis' movement when it comes to what they are trying to do inside syria and iraq. given the fact the united nations is saying they are violating human rights and crimes -- and committing crimes against humanity or even war crimes, there are suggestions that would lay the groundwork

and give at least a legal basis for the u.s. to get involved, certainly with the support of other countries who would then say they were doing this on a humanitarian basis, not necessarily for political or security considerations. >> nbc's ayman mohyeldin, thank you, as always. even with isis' massive propaganda machine, little is known about the group's inner workings. but new information is being revealed about its command structure inside iraq. at the head is, of course, isis leader, the caliphate abu al baghdadi. he emerged from hiding last month. he's placed himself at the top of the hierarchy which could number in the thousands. deputies and fighters and many of his leaders in iraq were once in the ranks of saddam hussein's now defunct army. joining me here in the studio, michael weis, editor in chief of the interpreter and msnbc's terrorism analyst evan kohlmann.

thank you for being with us. >> thank you. >> evan, what do we know about the way that baghdadi recruits and brings people into this brutal organization? >> one of the most effective ways is with propaganda. particularly online propaganda. unlike some of the other groups fighting in syria and iraq, there's a large quantity fighting with isis that are not syrian or iraqi. they are tunisians, libyans, saudis. in order to reach this audience they put out propaganda on the internet. in order to lure these individuals to travel to syria or to iraq and wage jihad. they explain it as waging -- making a journey to the islamic state and waging jihad there. >> michael, "the new york times" is reporting an some of the command structure within isis and pointing out potentially the way that some u.s. decision-making in the iraq war has allowed baghdadi to recruit some of these former military commanders.

they say that mr. baghdadi has 25 deputies across iraq and syria. about one-third were military officers during mr. hussein's rule and nearly all were imprisoned by american forces. how much is our initial decision making in the iraq war where we disbanded the iraqi army and engaged in this policy of de deaf -- of de-baathification. how such that continuing to feed resentment and divisions within iraq? >> no question the mistakes made during the initial u.s. invasion into iraq. baghdadi was once himself a detainee. i remember talking to a few u.s. military commanders who said it's only a matter of time before these guys' identities are proclaimed publicly and we recognize them as having formerly warn those orange jump suits. so what we're looking at a colossal failure across all levels in terms of the u.s. strategy in iraq from the

beginning but also until the very end. withdrawing troops and more importantly, look, if these guys are indeed, and i mean, the intelligence and military council levels of the isis' upper command are not just iraqi soldiers under saddam but former muqabarat agents. they are adept at embedding and integrating within the soonny communities in central and northern iraq, which is where they have the largest purchase in that country. they know the terrain. they come from there. and i think it's important to emphasize this, too. isis now is strig to put out this image as more of an international terrorist army. a state indeed. it calls fighters from the united states, from europe, algeria. but actually the people at the very top of mostly iraqi natives. what's interesting about this is that isis' predecessor organization, al qaeda in iraq, did the opposite. most of those guys were foreign fighters in iraq but they wanted to pretend they were domesticinate of insurgency and changed the structure or the

optics of themselves to put across that propaganda. >> evan, i mean, it's sort of a basic question but we're looking at all these pictures of isis fighters and they always wear the black masks. so you can't see their face. is that intimidation? do they want to be anonymous? >> look, these guys are a bit of thugs. what they are doing right now cannot really be defined in terms of islamic law or establish an islamic state. getting someone 70 lashes because they referred to the islamic state as the islamic state of iraq and levant is not relegenduous justification. that's what they have to be thought of. they are an army of thugs. it's a grouch ex-baathists, a group of jihadists, people looking for adventure and they find that adventure in murdering people. but it's to be understood thysethese folk don't really follow any rules. ayman al zawahiri plead with them to show mercy and they assassinated his envoy in a suicide bombing. that's why these folks are dangerous because they don't

follow any rules at all. >> wow. unbelievable. and evan, the same isis unit that was responsible for the james foley execution video, they just released a second french edition of their dabiq magazine today modeled after inspire. look at this page. it shows the destruction of temples and tombs in iraq. there's another that calls senator john mccain, quote, the enemy and again, this is a french publication. so what is it about isis that is appealing to some westerners? it's so hard to understand. >> it's so unique here. we have a group like isis that has an entire media unit dedicated only to producing propaganda in english, in french in western languages. what they've done here is basingally aped what al qaeda and yemen did. they realize they created this inspire magazine that's been credited with, among other things, inspiring the boston marathon bombers. these folks have created their own version of inspire except in

french. and this is dedicated to isis instead of al qaeda in yemen. it's very effective propaganda. we know this works. and there's no question about what the audience is here. none of this is in arabic. it's all in french. this is aimed at the 900 or so odd french nationals that have left their homeland and have travelled to syria and iraq to go fight there and a countless others, including a 15-year-old and 17-year-old girl who were just stopped the other day by french authorities trying to travel to syria and join isis. two girls. teenage girls. it's amazing what kind of propaganda reach these folks have. >> i've seen reporting about all the women joining up with isis. they have all these all-women brigades. i want to thank you both so much for joining us and helping us understand this situation. evan kohlmann and michael weis, thank you. up next, as the ebola virus continues to overwhelm doctors and facilities like this one in liberia, dramatic steps being taken right here in the united states to fight the virus. we check in with doctor anthony

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just announced this morning, the first ever human trials of an ebola vaccine. they are set to begin next week. this news comes as some startling new numbers were reported also this morning. officials warning the outbreak could exceed 20,000 cases and that there have been a total of 1500 ebola deaths since march of this year. cdc director dr. freeden is in liberia trying to find ways to combat the outbreak.

but he told npr, unfortunately, we are not at the peak. it is going to get worse gbefor it gets betters. joining me is dr. anthony fauci, part of nih. doctor, thank you for being with us. >> good to be with you. >> help us understand in layman's terms how will this newly announced human trial, how will it work? who is being tested and what are we hoping to learn from it? >> well, this is a vaccine that had been tested successly in an animal model in a monkey model and was quite promising where the monkeys were challenged with a lethal dose of ebola and the monkeys that did not get vaccinated all died. what we're talking about starting, literally, the day after labor day here at the nih is what's called a phase one trial which means the first going into humans with this

vaccine in normal volunteers, normal healthy volunteers to determine if the vaccine is safe in humans. namely, it doesn't induce an unexpected hypersensitivity or inflammatory response or any other unexpected dell tiruous effect and that it induces the kind of response that you want to see comparable to what we saw in the animals. safety is paramount in this. and that's why we go very slowly before you start fully developing and looking whether it works or not. first you have to determine if it's safe. and that's what we're going to be starting next week. >> doctor, of course, we don't know what will happen. we don't know what will happen in those human trials, but typically, when you see a drug, a vaccine that's effective in monkeys, does it typically translate into being effective in a human population as well? >> not necessarily. and that's, i think, important for people to understand. that there are many things that

look pretty good in an animal with safety and efficacy that either have a bad reaction in human or they don't work in a human. and that's the reason why any vaccine trial is a step by step procedure. first you show it's safe. if it is, then you find out if it induces the kind of response you want. and then ultimately with larger numbers of people you try to determine if it does work. but it would not be unusual for something to work in an animal and really not be very good in a human. we've seen that frequantitily with an hiv vaccines that we've been testing. >> important to emphasize this is a vaccine so preventative, not a cure, not a treatment. but people, obviously, really anxious to find some sort of a solution, some sort of hope here. are we moving on an expedited timeline? when do you think we'll actually see some results? >> well, two things to the point

you make. one, we'll start to see safety and whether it induces an immoon response by the end of this calendar year. somewhere by december we should probably know and then we'll make the policy decision of where we go from there. but the important thing to emphasize is that today and in the immediate future, the way one can stop this epidemic is by good hospital infctsion and infection control procedures. isolation, quarantine and protecting the health care workers with personal protective equipment. vaccine is fine but right now, the tools that we have that can work are the good protection isolation and good infection control. >> all right, dr. anthony fauci, thank you for your insight. >> good to be with you. ahead, the latest an the health of comedienne joan rivers. she was rushed to the hospital after she went into cardiac arrest and stopped breathing. "access hollywood's" billy bush has been in touch with her daughter melissa rivers, and we

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now to some breaking news. legendary comedienne and television host joan rivers was rushed to mt. sinai hospital in new york city today. the 81-year-old stopped breathing while undergoing a throat procedure and then went into cardiac arrest. her daughter and frequent co-star melissa rivers took a morning flight to the city to be by joan's side. joining me now is billy bush, host of "access hollywood." thanks for joining us. you've been texting with melissa rivers and posted of an facebook she told you please pray. what is the family saying right now about joan's condition? >> please pray. the last i heard from melissa she said stable but critical. and i think which is -- it's either stable or critical. she said stable but critical which means any time an 81-year-old woman has gone into

cardiac arrest and whose breathing has stopped at any point and is in stable condition, it's critical. she's in stable condition and that means her first joke is probably coming soon. if we know joan. >> that is some encouraging news. do we know anything about what caused her to go into cardiac arrest? >> it's a mystery because on tuesday, right after the emmys, she taped her fashion police emmy special. that's just two days ago. everyone an the set there says that joan was sharp. more energy than all the young members of the staff. typical joan. she's scheduled to be back an "fashion police" september 4th or 5th. one of the two, which is soon. she flies back and forth between new york and l.a. twice a week. she is the hardest working woman in the biz. but everybody -- she was just the other night out with "people" magazine's jess cagel. this came out of nowhere.

this was not a slow build any of kind. in an instant. melissa is on her way to the airport now and she will be heading to the city. has not taken off yet. >> does she seem to be holding up okay at this point? >> i think she's okay. she's kurt in responses. i think she's probably under a deluge but she's -- please pray. and, you know, we will. joan -- we're big fans of joan around here. she's a guest an "access hollywood live" all the time. she's hysterical. i have a feeling that mighty machine is going to pull right through. i hope so. >> we will certainly be praying for joan and for her family. billy bush with "access hollywood," thanks for that update. >> we'll have the latest tonight. coming up, following the isis machine trail. who and what is funding the world's most dangerous terror group? that is next.

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help protect your eye health. running a caliphate apparently does not come cheap. isis is believed to be the richest terror organization in the entire world. filling its massive coffers in four primary ways through crime, hostage taking, black market oil and donations from supporters. joining me to discuss all of this is brian bennett, national security reporter for the "los angeles times." and, brian, let's start by talking about the money generated through crime, things like bank looting, hostage taking. there were reports isis, of course, demanded a ransom for james foley before they killed him. when countries pay a ransom which the united states does not do but other countries do, when they pay a ransom to retrieve their hostages, doesn't this essentially incentivize further

hostage taking? >> it does. not only does it feed into the ability of these organizations to buy more equipment and fund their troops, but it also creates an incentive for them to go out and find more westerners to kidnap to generate more revenue. >> is there a way the u.s. can put more pressure on european allies not to pay ransom, to retrieve their hostages? we all understand the human impulse to want to get our people back at any cost but it does create that incentive to take further hostages. are we able to put pressure on them to stop this practice? >> this has been a longtime discussion between the u.s. and some european countries. there's only certain amount of things the u.s. can do to stop european countries from paying out ransoms. there's a limit to what the u.s. can do to stop this and shut this don. >> let's talk about another funding source here, donations.

who is donating to isis? do we have a good sense of that? >> so actually what i've been hearing from intelligence officials is that the donations have gone down slightly to isis because they've been able to generate other types of revenue through kidnapping and other taking territory and taking these oil fields as you mentioned earlier. and so there are believed to be powerful entities in middle eastern countries that have supported groups like isis and al nusra in the past. what intelligence analysts are seeing is a decline in some of those outside entities funding isis because at this point they don't need the cash through that. >> brian, stick with us. we've got an interesting look at the oil revenues that you were just referring to. black market oil is one of the biggest pipelines for isis' bank roll. it's estimated they make as much as $2 million a day from seized oil fields. our partners at vocativ travelled to iraq and got an up

close look at the isis oil business. >> isis is repeating the strategy that it's used in syria. it's lifting crude from stricken pipeline. it's trying to run a caliphate, which is a very expensive business.

>> kirkuk is a very old oil field but it's huge and still holds somewhere in the region of 10 billion barrels of recoverable oil. >> is this a dangerous area we're in right now?

>> there's a kind of embryonic factory it seems. you have an ex-pat scene that has fast food. you've had these take-off, rip-off things of big western brands coming in. you're starting to see franchising take off as well. the morale of the peshmerga is high inn like the iraqi army which was corrupted and corroded over time. that really isn't the case with the peshmerga. the biggest challenges of ammunition, equipment and increase in their intelligence capacity. >> we're right at the beginning of, unfortunately, what's going to be a long, grim episode.

>> pretty shocking stuff there, brian. there's, obviously, two -- well, a number of ways the u.s. can combat isis' ability to take these oil fields. either through military action on our own or backing the kurds. the other is through inhibiting their ability to sell that oil then into the market. are we sort of taking both approaches? do you know which action we're taking to cut off this financing stream? >> so right now, the u.s. is working really hard to make sure the crude oil doesn't make it to market. so this is a limitation that isis has when taking these oil fields. they have to find a way to sell it to generate their oil. it's very difficult to generate the kind of dollars that these oil fields were generating when hold by the iraqi government because they have to find a black market and find smugglers who were willing to pay. smugglers always pay a fractsion of the market rate.

this is a slight limitation on how much money isis can earn from these oil fields and the u.s. is trying to clamp down on the illegal smuggling of that oil. one thing isis did was they were able to take some of the refineries, for example, some refineries in a city between tikrit and kirkuk and those refineries allow isis to refine the oil into diesel and gasoline that can run trucks in their area and sell that to people who live in the area that they control. and that's another way for them to generate revenue. >> brian bennett of the "l.a. times," thank you so much. >> happy to be with you. we have a programming note for you. msnbc's chris hayes will talk with the woman who is taking on mitch mcconnell for his senate seat, allison lundergan crimes. tonight. just ahead, as ferguson returns to normal, some of the fundamental problems still

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ferguson police returning to normal duty and normal in ferguson has meant harassment for many members of the community there. ferguson has a population of about 21,000 people. in 2013, they issued almost 33,000 arrest warrants for nonviolent offenses. mostly driving violations. of those, drivers stopped by police, 86% are black. creating the perception at least that law enforcement applies justice unequally. and this policing is also quite the machioneymaker. last year they collected $2.6 million in court fines and fees. that was the second biggest source of revenue for the town. the national reporting suggests that it isn't just a st. louis problem or a ferguson problem. npr reports the practices in ferguson are common across the country. the costs of the justice system creates harsher treatment of the poor and if poor people fall behind on payments they may

actually go to jail. joining us to discuss the specifics of this story from a st. louis perspective is thomas harvey, the executive director and co-founder of arch city defenders which is trying to change this policy. thank you for being with us, sir. >> thank you for having me. help us understand. 33,000 arrest warrants just for nonviolent offenses in a town of 21,000. that doesn't even seem possible. so take us through what's happening, what's sort of typical scenario. someone gets pulled over. a speeding ticket. then what happens? >> generally the first point of contact is a speeding ticket or perhaps a rolling stop or tags are expired. something that the officer has observed. and after that moment, they, our clients, the working poor, the homeless, indigent in the region, they are ticketed with the big three poverty crimes which are not crimes. these are just poor people but

they've got a driving while suspended. no proof of insurance and a failure to register their vehicle. and those are all charges that result from their inability to pay. and as a result of their inability to pay, they've got a warrant issued for their arrest. so this officer has no choice at this point but to take them to the municipality where the warrant is. has been issued. there's a bond set. the bond is almost always the exact dollar amount that is owed in outstanding fines. so the bond is the exact dollar amount the client couldn't pay and the result noft being able to play got the warrant. they are asked if they can produce the money. if they can't, they remain in jail. eventually they are brought before a judge. if they can't make the bond. and sometimes they are incarcerated even after a moment where they say, i am unable to pay this fine due to my poverty. >> and that's -- and that's what

doesn't make sense to me. if you already can't pay the fine because you don't have enough money, even if you want to pay the fine, the dollars are not there, how does sending you to jail help you to be able to pay the fine? it just doesn't make sense to me, not to mention how is your employer going to respond to that? how are you going to be able to get a job if you are sitting in jail. >> you are alluding to everything that's in our white paper report on this which is the result of five years of observing these courts. you are exactly right. obviously, if they couldn't make the fines, they can't make them now. and, obviously, if they were sitting in jail, they'll lose whatever form of employment they have because typically our clients are working low level, entry level jobs, low wage jobs at a home depot or lowe's. if they miss a shift, they are very likely to be fired. and they sometimes lose their housing as well. >> i know your group sent a letter to ferguson mayor james

noles. what do you want him to do to alleviate this? >> our city defenders and st. louis university school of law clinics sent a letter to the mayor asking him, without going into all the details, get rid of all those fines and warrants. take an active first step and showing the community that this isn't about exporting the poor and it isn't about the money. and the mayor has responded and the mayor has responded that it's -- he's made, i think, smarter legal minds than i, john amman has responded the mayor is mistaken in his legal analysis. he does have the aauthority to do this. even if he doesn't have the authority to make this move, the prosecutor does and the judge does. there are ways to get this done. >> what would you say to those who say but people don't want to pay the fine, then don't break the law in the first place. we have to enforce the rules here. >> these aren't people refusing

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today i'm afraid of leaving my room, even seeing people who remotely look like my rapist is a scary thing for me. last semester, i was working in the dark room in the photography department which is a small, dark room. he asked permission from his teacher to come and work in the dark room during my class. i started crying and hyperventilating and, as long as he's on campus with me, he can continue to harass me. >> imagine being sexually assaulted on your college campus, reporting it to campus authorities only to regularly encounter your alleged rapist walking around campus freely.

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complete strangers who -- i mean it takes a lot of trust to tell somebody on something this personal. when the university staff is so poorly trained in handling our trauma we don't feel safe in talking to them. >> you know, when i was in school i feel like there was less awareness of the problem of sexual assault. it was there. but it was not something that was widely discussed or talked about. do you think we've made progress in making women in particular feel more comfortable coming forward through these sorts of conversations? >> yeah. i think that i've been -- i personally have been so amazed by how much change has happened already in the past year that i've become an activist, and i think there's a whole movement starting and i think that's really amazing. >> it is amazing and you get a lot of credit for having the

courage to not only report the attack but to have the courage to be upfront about it and talk about to it the media. that's no easy thing. i applaud you for your bravery. i want to talk a little bit about the university response. we did reach out to them for comment. they said once studio audience arrive on campus they will participate in an expanded program covering the topic of sexual assault prevention and consent. this were two other students that accused the same assailant that you accused of sexual assault and yet the university found him not guilty. do you feel like they failed you here? >> yes. i mean he's a serial rapist and i even talked to another woman who said she was attacked by him who didn't report and, i mean, school hasn't even started yet and i've already run into him on campus. so campus is unsafe because of the way they handled our serial

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general clark let me play you what the state department spokesman told andrea mitchell this afternoon. let's listen. >> what we've seen here is an escalation of aggression by the russians, a pattern actually over the last several months. that's what we're concerned about and that's what we're watching close lui. next week is also a very important opportunity for the international community at nato with the president there, with secretary kerry there, with secretary hagel there to have a discussion about what's next. there are sanctions we can, there's a reasoning of tools at our disposal. >> general, we already got sanctions that the united states and western europe have levied against russia. what tools are there at the disposal of the united states and nato? >> well, i think the united states can do several things through nato and with its