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the league is toughening its stance on domestic violence and sexual assault. the league has been under heavy criticism for letting domestic violence o fenners off tooese ease pep it's sht surprising, domestic violence is rising in america. one in four women will experience domestic vealence in their lifetime. 1.3 million women are victims of physical arc buice of their partner each year. one-third of female homicide victims are killed by their partner. with those numbers and recent incidents in the nfl the league is going to take action. it happened today, nfl commissioner roger goodell has come under fire for how he dealt with ray rice. rice hit his fiance at a new jersey casino and was caught on camera dragging her unconscious body out of the elevator. rice received only a two-game suspension and that caused a great deal of outrage. goodell today wrote a letter to owners admitting that he failed in disciplining the ravensa
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runningback. my disciplinary decision led to the public to question our sincerity, and our commitment and whether we understood the toll that domestic violence inflicts on so many families and i take responsibility for both the decision and for ensuring that our actions in the future properly reflect our values. i didn't get it right. simply put, we have to do better and we will. goodell announced certain new penalties for domestic violence offenders in the league. a first time domestic violence or sexual assault offender will be subject to a six-week suspension. a second offense will result in banishment from the nfl. they'd be thrown out of the league. players would be allowed to petition for reinstatement after one year, but there is no guarantee it would be issued. at the the end of goodell's letter he wrote a message to all nfl personnel saying domestic violence and sexual assault are wrong. they are illegal. they are never acceptable and
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have no place in the nfl under any circumstances. roger goodell is no doubt making the right choice, the right decision and setting a good example for everyone. it is much tougher than it was before. things certainly are changing. for more, i am joined by terence moore and national sports columnist from ohio university and goldie taylor, msnbc contributor and columnist for the gri and mark papantonio. this is really very interesting and a very important move by the nfl, but i want to go to the incident that sparked this change. mike, you first. if there had not been any videotape of this most recent incident that was high profile with this runningback of the ravens, do you think that goodell and the nfl would have done what they did today? >> ultimately, they would have, ed. this will definitely be known as
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the ray rice bill because of what happened here, but the weakest part of what i see so far is understanding what kinds of due process avenues are available for the player who is accused of domestic violence. that bothers me just a little bit. if the consequences for a player only attach after a criminal plea or conviction and there is due process and this may have positive and if it digresses to a he said/she said administrative hearing and it has potential for disaster and we don't have the answer for that right now, but the nfl is a setting where highly paid players have agents and by investors and interestingly enough, exceptional cases and females who see the possibility of what we call the love lottery. i prosecuted enough to know that every now and then in very rare instances an individual might use that as an opportunity to convert to big money. sometimes it ends up looking an awful lot like extortion. on the other hand, most domestic
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violence claims are very real, very brutal and the men when use their fifties to get their way are general repeat offenders and it almost always is a trend with the offender. statistics, 41% of the united states are repeat offenders and 8% are rearrested before they go to trial. the in the nfl it's 2% to 3% of rostered nfl players are charged with domestic players and maybe three out of a thousand. we don't have an epidemic of of domestic vealence in the nfl when compared to the, and if he pounds on his wife or girlfriend it's one too many. >> it's a pedestal that they're on and the fish bowl they operate in. everybody sees it. goldie taylor, this is about curbing behavior. what's your reaction tonight? >> i do believe that the plan that commissioner goodell put out today was comprehensive.
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i think it it starts on the front end with having the support necessary for the players and their families and their sig give kant others that surround them. there are support in fact of therapeutic avenues of approach that are necessary and i think well is the hard hammer of sanctions that come down. six-game suspension for a first-time offense, but that doesn't include for all those agitating circumstances that surround it including having a child present or whether the woman involve side pregnant and those things will exacerbate what that penalty could be, but having a lifetime ban after a second incident, i believe, with no guarantee that you're petitioned after a year will be heard, i believe it's one of those things that could be a curb to this kind of behavior. let me correct something here. there is an over incidents of domestic violence within the nfl. there absolutely is. it's underreported in the nfl just as sexual assault was
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underreported in the military. it was underreported because we did -- about playing the quick pick lotto. it is about real women, real people in danger for their real lives and so i have to correct that from mr. papantonio today. >> there will also be underreporting, but we have to be aware of the fact, and having done this, having prosecuted, it's very rare, but you do see an instance when somebody -- these are highly paid players. >> having been on the other end, i also know that those are rarer instances than the instances of valid reports. so i think that's where we ought to be focused today. >> terence, your thoughts on this? i mean, this runningback incident that unfolded that brought this under the spotlight, but it will be a benchmark incident that we'll be looking at for a long time and
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this clearly made the league move, but the league by admission, moved late and they weren't strong enough and did they misjudge it? and can they afford to misjudge it again? >> first of all, goldie is right because the huffington post reported recently that 21 of the 32 nfl teams had at least one player charged with domestic violence incident over the the past year. to answer your question, this is huge because roger goodell made history and never ever can i remember a commissioner making a decision and coming back this quickly, roughly a month later saying i blew it and he did blow it and he did get it right because when you are giving a four-game suspension for a guy for a drug offense and just two games to a ray rice for knocking out his girlfriend and dragging her out of an elevator? he had to do something and he
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knew he had to do something dramatic and what he did was pretty much dramatic and the other thing to take note is one of the reasons you have the four-game suspension involving drugs and that's a collective bargaining thing and the nfl has no control over that. this is the decision that the commissioner has control over because of personal conduct. so he's got control over saying whatever the penalty. he's like the judge and jury in this particular case and that's why this is huge. the fact that he came and said that i made a mistake and the fact that it came down with the hard penalties. he deserves a lot of credit for this. >> the suspension to the athlete in question right now stands. what do you make of that, goldie some. >> well, it does stand, unfortunately. there is no grandfathering of this penalty and ray rice understands that he lives in a new world now. that if he has a second incident that he can be subject to a life time ban from the nfl and he has to repetition the league and no guarantee that that petition will be heard and his career is on the line now unless he finds a way to reform his behavior
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that i'm confident if he can if he gets the right support and it's true that the nfl is about providing the support that he needs. i think they want him to be a better player both on and off the peeled and that's why the supports are in place and so people like ray rice will have to live up to a brand new standard. the nfl does have an awful lot of women fans and i happen to be one of them. i control my television set, not just six days a week and seven days on sunday and i decide what game gets watched and they have to look at us female fans as well. we are buying the hot dogs. we're buying the jerseys and we're buying tickets and showing up on game day just like men are and this kind of response by roger goodell shows that he recognizes that and that we're also a source of grand revenue for the nfl. >> terence, in your reporting over the years in the league do you think that there have been times when they've swept this under the rug and it has gone underreported and you think some players have been protected over time? >> oh, no question about it.
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i've covered the nfl pretty consistently since the late 1970s, and i'll tell you, there's a lot of stuff that would make your skin crawl that i've seen that we couldn't report. i'll tell you something, this is also going to be a deterrent for two of the most horrific things that has happened in the nfl in the last five or six years. you had the ray car uthsituation who hired somebody to kill his pregnant girlfriend. you had that situation. and the situation with steve mcnair being killed by his mistress. this was sort of a deterrent, hopefully the kind of key players from saying don't even go there because we're watching you and this is going to be a bad thing if you even think about it . >> mike, what's the liability of teams in situations like this as they are as terence and goldie has said that it goes underreported and people are
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hurt and there's no restitution. is there a legal liability here for the team? >> absolutely. if they've been put on notice that they have a player that has this history of repeat offending and they take no action. they don't try to get him counseling and they don't try to get him to interfere with his conduct there absolutely is a connection between -- from him to the team. there's absolutely no question about that. . somebody were to look at the statistics as it's been pointed out here. i want to be clear, i think this is a good move. my whole point is due process still matters. you still have to have in place some way to make sure that player that has been accused of this, that can lose their lively hood that they have some avenue of due process in this whole course of conduct. if they really want to solve the problem they need to start at the college level. the college level is where we see conduct even as bad as we see in the nfl and it it has to start with the conditioning of these players having them understand and this is not a free for all simply because
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they're a college player and simply because they're an nfl player that they're playing by rules that the rest of the population don't have to play by. >> what do you think about that, goldie? do you think the ncaa can step in and have uniform rules on this and i don't know if they do or not. i know the university institutions have code of conducts and athletic departments have that, as well. what about that some. >> i absolutely have to agree with him here that you do have to start as far back as far as college to train them how to behave on and off the field. the same issue is true within the college arena that you're having an awful lot of underreports happening on these college campuses and instances of, domestic violence or date violence as they're calling it today and so i think that well is an underreporting there that extends itself into the the nfl. so i do think that due process is absolutely necessary. you know, i have the right to prove my side of the case. i have the right to protect my
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career. i have the right to let all of the facts fall where they may, and so i think that he's right that due process ought to rule the day, but i'm awfully happy that there are real sanctions on the other end of that process that did not exist just 24 hours ago. >> this incident took the -- grabbed the attention of several in the united states senate. one of them was senator from connecticut, richard blumenthal who joins us tonight via the telephone. senator, good to have you with us tonight. i understand you had written a letter to roger goodell at the time that this all unfolded and you said the decision to suspend mr. rice for a mere two games sends the inescapable message that the nfl does not take domestic or intimate-partner violence with the seriousness they deserve. we urge you to make some changes that mr. rice's suspension should more adequately reflect
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the seriousness of his offense. senator, your response to what the nfl has done this afternoon? >> great step forward. it puts them within reach of a really important and historic step that sets a model potentially for other sports and other professional leagues. we still have to find out whether they'll cross the knoll line. words are fine. actions are what's necessary and the possibility of a six-week suspension without pay and longer punishment, a year's banishment. if it's a second offense all are really, very, very important signals and messages and now we have to see whether it it will be implemented and i believe very, very strongly that the commissioner is to be commended for listening and heeding, for example, my call and others that these kinds of domestic
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violence, brutality and assault have to be treated severely and seriously. >> senator, do you think the league has to stay on it maybe to find out if this is going to be enough? we're talking about curbing behavior. absolutely, the league must stay on it and many of us who are interested in fighting domestic violence. i started a group here in connecticut some years ago associated with one of our major domestic violence shelters. it's called men against domestic violence and men make a difference. men have to take a stand and these athletes are paramount, principal role models for children and we know that domestic violence is a cycle that men who perpetrate domestic violence, 70% or more have seen or experienced it it in their own lives and so these athletes are role models and as important as a punishment, by the way, in my view that the education
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component that the commissioner is announcing, reaching out to spou spouses and reaching out on family members. >> good to have you with us tonight. i appreciate your time and senator rich r art blumenthal and i want to go back to terence moore. what does this do with organizations in the league, mr. moore? i mean, coming up on the end of training camp right now. i know that there's a lot of counselling that goes on with these players when they're new into the league. when an athlete comes to you today, they bring their agent. they bring their accountant and they bring their advertising guy and the next corporate deal that they're going to do. they come to you today as a commodity. and they're don't just come from some school, you know, this has to be managed. so what's the responsibility of coaches and teams and the way they manage these players at this point in the wake of this? >> if you are a general manager or an nfl coach right now immediately you are getting all these guys in the room and
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telling them to cool it it, stop it, be about business because we cannot afford to lose you for six weeks, okay some besides the fact that they'll get zapped as par as pay is concerned, you're going to hurt the team. people were talking about due process earlier and one of the beautiful things about this and maybe to some, maybe not so much, when it comes to being the commissioner of these sports there is no due process and these guys are very much like vladimir putin in charge and whatever he decides in this c e case, roger goodell and that's a good thing given the veiolence and the potential problems. >> great to have you with us tonight and i appreciate your time on "the ed show." still ahead, obama's economy is here and am booing. rapid response panel weighs in and a lot of good signs out there, but first, we'll take a look at where our moral obligation lies at this point with iraq and syria, with the
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violence and chaos and the slaughter of innocent people and as a consequence we've got to all join together even if we have differences on a range of political issues to make sure that they're rooted out. >> and we are back. that was the president a short time ago at the white house re-emphasizing and he made it clear the united states will will not stand by as isis kn continues to commit horrific crimes. air strike strs escalated as isis wages its campaign of terror through amputations, torture, abductions, forced con version, slavery, rape and mass public executions. the united nations' high commissioner for human rights has called the current situation in that country, in that region, wide spret ethnic and religious cleansing in the areas under their control. at this point, president obama is considering expanding the
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military campaign against isis from iraq into syria. our country may be war weary, but i believe there is truly a moral obligation for us not just to stand by and watch innocent human beings executed as they were back in the 1930s and '40s in germany. there's no difference here. the way these people are being treated. however, president obama insists that there will be no ground game. folks, you know things are bad when this guy says this -- >> our top political priority over the mix two years should be to deny president obama a second term. >> look, i think the security of the nation comes first. i believe and others believe that isis can hit us here at home and that really trumps all of their considerations and i'm anxious to hear what the president has in mind and he's very likely to get support. >> joining us tonight lawrence do dore, former assistant secretary
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of defense. good to have you with us tonight. >> nice to be with you. >> there seems to be a real discussion in america taking place about what our moral obligation is at this point when we see these atrocities. what's the right call here? just how much can we do? it seems like the president's policy here and strategy here is to keep saying that the iraqi people have to step up and the question comes up, are they prepared enough and equipped enough to step up against isis. there are a the lot of things that are involved here. your thoughts some. >> and the president made it clear that that's why we had to get malaki out because one of the reasons isis was so successful in iraq and the sunni areas is because they preferred isis, as bad as they tor malaki who had actively persecuted the sunnis.
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and basically with a new government there which would be more inclusive than the iraqis would be more willing to take on isis and together with our air power we can prevent them from expanding further in iraq and probably rolling them back eventually, but the president, i think, was really smart when he said, look, at some point they're going to have to do it themselves. i mean, how long -- even if you put ground troops on there they will have to leave. it's the people there that have to do it. >> do they have the resource and the wherewithal on fight back against isis? >> oh, more than -- they have, unfortunately, a lot of the equipment we gave them was taken over by isis when they came into mosul, but we're providing more equipment. we've got about a thousand, you know, advisers on the ground to help these people get their act together and when they do, i think they'll be more than a match for isis militarily and the horrible things that isis
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has done is going to turn the population in iraq against them just like al qaeda in iraq, so annoyed the sunnis that they eventually joined with us to chase them out. >> where is the global coalition to fight these terrorists? i don't sense that there is a real international push of togetherness along with the united states to do what has to be done to rid these terrorists out. >> you have countries like britain, france and australia willing to partner with us, particularly in -- in iraq and in dealing with the humanitarian crisis, but obama made it a very important point and it's also a regional problem. you know, isis is much more of a threat to saudi arabia than they are to the united states given the number of saudis who have joined to fight there, so the regional part and he made the point, they don't agree on everything, but even the sunnis think that this group has gone too far and i think that will
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turn the tied when the sunni groups like saudi arabia which is the preeminent sunni country says this is not true islam. >> so can cwe come to the conclusion that the bar has been raised quite a bit before the united states is going to commit any kind of ground troops? in fact, we can see public executions and it doesn't move our moral compass to send troops to straighten things out. i mean, we're so war weary and we are so wartorn and we've been so burned by that entire region about making one misstep after another, we're just not going to do it even if people are executed right in front of our eyes. >> two things, one, in iraq we have a moral responsibility because we created the situation there with our unfortunate invasion and occupation and in syria, after what they did to jim foley, i think basically then we have a moral obligation to go after them, but ground
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troops are not the answer and then they'll turn the population against us. i think what you'll see in syria basically is targeting the leaders of isis much the way we targeted the leaders of the pakistan and afghanistan border and possibly going in like we did after bin laden if we got good information. don't forget, we've already been into syria and we tried to rescue foaly and that kind of got lost here and the president is not just sitting back and letting events take control. >> lawrence corb, thanks for your time. appreciate it so much. still ahead, republicans were wrong about medicare. rapid response panel weighs in on that with the numbers that are out. we're looking at big savings. plus, pastor troy schmitt punts his way into "pretenders" tonight. plus your questions are next, ask ed live. we'll be right back. [ female announcer ] we help make secure financial tomorrows a reality
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welcome back to "the ed show." appreciate the questions in our ask ed live segment. our question comes from ray. hey asks will republicans support president obama's foreign policy when thai return from vacation? have they supported anything president obama's wanted to do? there's going to be plenty of criticism around. the air strikes, they're effective so far. obviously having an effect, helping those who are certainly in need, but the the republicans are going to come back saying that's not enough so they will always take issue where president obama on foreign affairs. he never does enough. stick around. rapid response panel is next. i'm hampton pearson with your cnbc market wrap. stocks fall across the board. the dow's off 42 points.
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real gross domestic product increased 4.2% in the second quarter of this year according to the commerce department's second estimate. meanwhile, wall street's record-setting rally continues on tuesday. the s&p 500 notched its 30th record of the year and closed above 2,000 for the first time. another positive story, the congressional budget office has reduced the estimate for how much the federal govern ment wil need to spend on medicare in the coming years. conservatives were dead wrong when it comes to medicare. and the president's plan did not say it it rations the program and raids the program and we get rid of the rationing and we stop the raiding and we save the program from bankruptcy. >> what are the absolutes here? somebody doesn't have the truth or doesn't have the facts. every year for the last six years in a row the congressional budget office has reduced its
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estimate for how much the federal government will need to spend on medicare in the coming years. the latest reduction came in a report from the budget office on wednesday morning and the changes, they're not small. they're big. the difference between the current estimate for medicare's 2019 budget and the estimate for the 2019 budget four years ago is a whopping $95 billion. things are getting better. something's working or the republicans are totally wrong on their talking points. that's more than the government is expected to spend in 2019 on unemployment insurance, welfare or amtrak all combined. the wadely discussed policy changes like raising the estate tax would generate just atiny fraction of the budget savings relative to the recent changes in medicare spending estimates. obamacare is saving money, and it's doing exactly what the
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president said it was going to do. this is exactly why it's been such a quiet, quiet august on the home front for these lawmakers. they're not bad-mouthing obamacare anymore. more people are covered and the actuary that keeps coming back is more and more positive. it is not killing medicare. joining me tonight on our rapid response panel, david kay johnson, pulitzer prize-winning journalist and columnist and peter morici,s professor of economics at the school of business. great to have both of you with us tonight. >> nice to be here. >> when did we start cheerleading good numbers. let me put it to you that way. when is enough information going to make all of us smile and say, you know what? we're doing something right for america. david, what do you think some. >> well, we certainly are. we could be degree a lot better than we're doing but without
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question we're coming out of this time despite congress' failure to create jobs and i don't understand how the republicans think they can continue the attackal h aa aal they'll call it, and people hate obamacare, but love the affordable care act. >> matter, what do you make of these numbers changing for the better some. >> certainly the economy will do better over the next wefl months than it has and over the entire recovery. we're looking at growth in the range of about 3%, but i would point out that during the reagan years over a comparable period, we grew at about better than 4%, maybe 4.5% during his recovery and he started out with a high level of unemployment. with regard to obamacare it is true that medicare spending is down, but some of that where it it cuts in the reimbursements mandated by congress and remember there were republicans in congress that we're used to finance subsidies in obamacare
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so some of that is moving the money around and there's good news on medicare and there's not good news on the costs of renewing policies for businesses and individuals. the cost of insurance, and private insurance is going up rather significantly and i've heard complaints from businesses against that. my bottom line is everybody has to stop complaining and taking credit and this is the law of the land and what do we need to do better. >> increases are nowhere where they were before obamacare, correct? >> i don't know that you're going to say that come october. i think we need to see the numbers come in because i'm hearing very heavy complaints. part of the problem is the risk pool isn't turning out to be what they thought it would be. the young people choosing to pay the fine are the healthy ones. those that are taking the opportunity to buy insurance aren't the healthier ones so the risk pool isn't what they would like it to be. the fine for not participating is too low. >> what does october have to do
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with anything? because the bottom line is people's policies are renewed every year and so, you know, my policy is renewed -- our policy is renewed every march and it's reevaluated, but during the bush years, actually from 2000 to 2010 there were double-digit increases every year for most americans. those aren't there this year. >> this is the time of year when people get well new rates for next year and i just meant october to say we need on let the summer any by and see what the rates are. that's all. i could have said september if that would make you feel better. >> it's year round is what it is. >> no. this is the time of year when people get a lot of their rate settings. so they get them about this time of year and this is when you find out what your rates will be in 2015. >> david, your thoughts. >> if i can make a point here, i agree with peter that the economy recovered much more quickly than the reagan years. why? because of government spending.
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let's be clear here. ronald reagan was a big spender. he ran up huge definites. deficits have fallen under president at an incredible clip. when he leaves office we'll be down to a 2% of the economy deficit he inherited around 10% and if the republicans were cooperating the way they did with ronald reagan, this economy would be going gangbusters right now. the other point peter makes, if we can just lower the total cost of health care in this country to what the french pay. they have the best system in the world and one of the most expensive, but it is so much cheaper than ours that if we got to the level of french, we would have surplus in budgets and we have got to get a handle overall on health care and who is standing in the way of this republicans who are more interested in making sure president obama fails than in the country prospering. >> i'll give you the last word. >> i would like on have the german system and they're paying
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50% less than we do. they're paying 12% of gdp and we're paying 18 or 19. to do that we have to do what neither party wants to do andry is to seriously regulate the price of drugs. that's a bipartisan rb lem. >> great to have both of you with us. >> appreciate your time on "the ed show." thank you. coming up, sarah palin and mike ditka think racist nfl team names should be worn with pride. trenders next. stay with us. ups is a global company, but most of our employees live in the same communities that we serve. people here know that our operations have an impact locally. we're using more natural gas vehicles than ever before. the trucks are reliable, that's good for business. but they also reduce emissions, and that's good for everyone.
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of religion. they have to call them life coaches there instead. >> he started tossing the constitution around like a football. >> i don't think they've rdz the constitution and it is pretty clear that they cannot prohibit my free expression of my faith or the preexpression of the coaches to express their faith. they're telling us to be atheists when we want to say this is what we believe and we want to express it freely like the constitution says. >> the pastor should try reading the constitution. the constitution protections the separation of church and state. the public school that he works with is very much part of the state. the district isn't making schmitt reject the existence of god. the district is protecting others from forced religious practice. if troy schmitt thinks he can cite the constitution without reading it, he can keep on pretending. it was the biggest decision king's hawaiian had faced, since robert taira opened his first bakery in a small hawaiian town. making bread so good, that people bought two loaves
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>> third time is the charm. >> the new poll shows mitt romney is the clear favorite among republican voters. >> romney tops the list for iowa republicans in 2016. >> romney has insisted that he has no plans to run again in 2016. >> he has the support of 35% of likely voters. >> circumstances can change. >> i like those odds. >> the number two trender, food fight. >> tens of thousands of people armed with 140 tons of plum tomatoes took part in the la toma tina festival. ♪ attack of the killer tomatoes ♪ >> thousands take part in the annual tomato toss. >> the town spent 30,000 euros on the food and dumped it in the streets. >> almost everybody has been affected by the tomato onslaught. >> i will spend three months without eating tomatoes. this is disgusting. >> food fight! >> today's top trender, gridiron
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gripe. >> what's all the stink over the redskins name? it's so much [ bleep ] it's incredible. >> if you look up the word red skin in a dictionary it is identified as offensive slang. the team owner resisted a name change though some consider it a slur. >> it's all the political correct idiots in america. that's all it is. >> mike ditka and sarah palin play defense for d.c.'s football team p. >> it was said out of reverence, out of pride to the american indians. even though it was called a redskin, what are you going to call them? a brown skin. >> ditka spoke his mind. >> i'm not very tolerant when it comes to liberals who complain about everything. >> he also knows the liberal media gins up controversy to divide our country. >> joining us now, author of "how do i say i love you in indian"? good to have you with us tonight. are you a politically direct
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idiot? that's what -- the description out there. what is it going to take to move the pendulum on this story to have the nfl change the name of the team in question? >> well, look. despite what mike ditka and sarah palin and dan snyder think, native people are past the moral judgment on the name and whether it's right or wrong. mobilizing taking action like a possible complain against federal express, bank of oh america and other sponsors of the rinds team. if dan snyder is asking for mike ditka and sarah palin to give him credibility on a topic that relates to social justice and race and ethnicity and native americans he's in more trouble than we thought. the name will change sooner than we thought. mike ditka and sarah palin have the combined cultural competency of derek zoolander and they will say dumb things.
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the fact that we are giving them an audience and dan snyder feels it is important to employ them speaks to how desperate his straits are. >> why do you think there is so much resistance to the change? >> we have seen changes in society in reference to minorities. why is this a heavy lift for people? >> just using mike ditka, sarah palin and dan snyder as an example. they kind of representative an antiquated and crusty strain of white privilege that thinks it is appropriate to speak for people of color and native american people specifically. mike ditka was a segregation-era football player who became a coach of an nfl team comprised largely of black players he could dictate his will to. there is a reason he's a commentator now, not a coach.
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he can't take input from people of color. >> he's basically saying don't move my cheese. this is the way i am and the way i will be, whether you like it or not. tony dungy and phil simms are saying -- and other sports writers and columnists are saying they will not be using the team's name when discussing games this season. this is part of oh a trend. this is what it takes. >> absolutely. just to discuss what ditka and sarah palin said, absolutely. there is a strain of liberalism that's outraged at everything. i will tell you as a native person, there is a real tangible, credible amount of native people dedicated to the cause and who are working and spending money and resources to get it changed. it is not just white liberals. it is a group, a party that's affected by this. >> a story was on talkers this
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afternoon that at george washington university there are two professors who think they are going to be going after the radio station licenses of stations that carry the nfl team. they will go after their radio station license because of obscenity. they compare it to that. also hate speech. these wheels are in motion. it is going to come down to the money. when it starts affecting snyder's pocketbook, this is really what it will take. don't you think? >> absolutely. ultimately, the team -- she's putting an inferior product on the field and combined with downward pressure coming as a result of professors going after him in court. the recent copy right case he lost, the team sucks. these things will conspire to make the change come about sooner rather than later. the only thing standing this the
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way is on city innocence. >> mike ditka and sarah palin, i guess. thanks for joining us. that's "the ed show." "politics nation" starts now. good evening, rev. >> good evening, ed. thanks to you for tuning in. tonight tonight's lead, lessons not learned in ferguson. in the weeks since the death of michael brown, we have heard a lot of calls for change. both to prevent police shootings and to reconsider the militarization of local police. but apparently some people don't see a need to change. st. louis county police chief john belmer is defending the use of military equipment by local police. just listen why. >> a lot of equipment is in my opinion and other chiefs across the country necessary. every one of our agencies have equipment similar to tha
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