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due to mature subject confronting crisis. the white house's next step is targeting isis with military force. there's a new message today from a key player in that strategy. midterm dilemma. a report on the issue of the unissue that could change the power of balance in congress. everything you need to know about the labor day getaway and the unofficial end of summer. reverend al sharpton talks about the reason president obama could not go to ferguson, missouri after the shooting death of an unarmed teen. good morning, everyone.
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here's what's happening today. new word from john kerry, who will soon head to the middle east to develop a strategy against isis militants in syria and iraq. kristen, with a good morning to you. what new are you hearing from this administration? >> reporter: well, good morning, alex. we know secretary kerry will travel to the middle east after the nato summit a little bit later on this week. his goal to shore up allies to help defeat isis. in a "new york times" op ed he talked about the importance of building a global coalition. meanwhile, the obama administration is playing defense after comments the president made about isis. take a listen. as president obama travels to fund-raisers, he is in damage control mode. after the president made the candid comments. >> i don't want to put the cart before the horse. we don't have a strategy yet. >>reporter: the remarks played directly into the hands of
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critics, including the chair of the house intelligence committee. >> to have a press conference to say we don't have a strategy is shocking given the severity of the threat. that's what's so concerning to me. >> the president has laid out -- >> reporter: white house press secretary josh ernest was quick to brief. >> he is developing plans or military options for the president to consider if he decides it's necessary to do so. but at this point the president hasn't made any decisions. >> reporter: a suggestion left by some of his top military advisers who warned of the global threat isis poses. >> this is beyond anything we have seen. we must prepare for everything. >> reporter: the president's foreign policy is being tested on multiple fronts. nadal hassan reportedly wrote a
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letter to isis from president requesting to join. nato released new satellitism imagines showing russian troops and artillery vehicles in the eastern part of the country. speaking to a pro kremlin youth catch, putin said crimea is in dispensable to russia. it is best not to mess with us, he warned. russia is one of the leading nuclear powers. president obama has a steep hill to climb. >> the president has always been very strong on issues of foreign policy. but what people are looking for now is the action to follow that. >> let's talk more about options in both syria and iraq. a research analyst at the institute for the study of war. with a welcome to you. what is the perception with the approach to isis? is there anybody like saudi arabia, turkey, jordan to be
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part of a coalition? >> sure. i think beginning with syria there was what was a perceived u.s. lack of leadership. i think with the threat that isis poses is not only bound to iraq and syria but has huge regional implications. there's a huge appetite for u.s. leadership in addressing the issue. >> do you think when john kerry goes to the region this next week we will get a warm response, a palatable difference? he will get something from these countries. >> i believe so. the way isis has been making gains particularly in syria the last couple of weeks has true impact for regional stability. i think particularly with countries like saudi arabia that have been wanting to deal with syria and isis for a long time, i think there will be a willingness to cooperate. >> let's talk about the
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perception of isis from our allies. how are they perceived by the allies? >> in syria, they have been able to make a lot of gains by negotiated truces along the euphrates river valley. it is by fear of going face to face in combat with isis. >> so you think there is widespread acceptance of isis by local populations? >> no, i don't think so. i think what we have seen particularly in eastern syria is a willingness to have truces with with isis in order to avoid violent confrontation. and i think the second that there is a perception of a desire to defeat isis, particularly from western
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powers. and the syrian opposition has gone me to head with isis. empowering them will have a mobilized populus against isis. >> so it's fear-induced. >> that's exactly what it is. >> what about the numbers of european or u.s. citizens have that joined isis. do we have a firm grasp on those numbers? >> that's a difficult thing to track. i don't personally have firm numbers on the numbers of western fighters with isis but they are there. their control creates a sanctuary in which u.s. and british fighters, as we have seen recently, are able to go and fight. >> what's interesting is syrian president assad has survived years of civil war in his country. what is his role the next few weeks when it comes to isis. will he take the fight to him in northern syria? >> well, first of all, the regime is not a desirable ally in combatting isis. the conflict between isis and
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the regime thus far has been limited to eastern syria, which is not key terrain at this point in time. i don't believe that the fight will come head to head with isis in western syria. the regime largely allowed it to grow and expand as a strategy of weakening the syrian opposition. the truth is the syrian opposition. >> okay. isabel, thank you so much for joining us. >> thank you for having me. >> now to london. david cameron raised a threat level there because of isis. kelly, with a good morning to you, how worried are they in britain? >> they are fairly concerned, enough to raise the level to red, the highest level, meaning an attack is imminent. british officials say there is no sign of an imminent effect. but with 500 traveling to join isis and 200 back, the threat they say is very real.
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britain has awoke to a new fear this morning splashed on every headline. terror alert red, the highest since 2011. a terrorist attack, the government warned, is highly likely. >> what we are facing in iraq now with isis is a deeper threat to our security than we have known before. >> the terror group isis has the world's attention, and they're using it, posting another violent, disturbing video. this time of captured kurdish soldiers. among them, hundreds of british citizens. >> this is the golden era of jihad. >> they have given tips on how to join the fight. and they have been executioner. >> this is james wright foley. >> spoken with a british accent. >> there are gaps and we need to strengthen them. >> brit app hasn't been attacked since 2005 when four islamists
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bombed the underground killing 52. last year lee rigby was slaughtered in broad daylight by two islamic extremists. and people were killed outside a jewish center. >> now it is posturing and directly threatening the western interest. hundreds of thousands with passports that give easy access. >> they can travel to europe, britain and beyond. to the u.s., where the threat level remains the same. >> i don't anticipate this morning that there is a plan to change that level. >> the department of homeland security said in a statement that officials are deeply concerned about the threat by isis, but they know of no specific credible threat to the u.s. >> thank you, kelly. other news now, u.s. secret service and connecticut state police on the lookout for what's described as a potentially
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suspicious pepper and vehicle who could pose a threat to the president. the person is suspected of being in the vicinity where president obama was friday for fund-raising events. officials are not elaborating why they consider him a threat. a strict new abortion rule on friday. the rule, which was set to take effect friday, mandates all texas clinics meet the same standards as hospital including building, equipment, and staffing minimums. it it is texas officials vowed to appeal the ruling >> it is cutdown day in the nfl. teams are preparing their rosters from 75 to 53. that includes the st. louis rams, which drafted the league's first openly game player, michael sam. no official word whether he has made the team. jeff fisher is expected to make a decision by 4:00 p.m. if sam is cut, he could be pick
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up by another team or asked to play for the practice team >> official end of summer has all people heading to the beaches and barbecues this summer. parts of the east coast could get soaked with thunderstorms. you wouldn't believe it looking at those pictures, which are pretty nice. jeannette has our forecast. good morning. >> hey there, alex. good saturday morning. yes, the unofficial end of the summer season is with us. it's going to be a wet one for areas of the upper midwest and the deep south. eventually the storms currently pushing the upper midwest. will be hitting the east coast sunday into monday. locally, heavy rainfall across wisconsin, down into illinois. this morning, heavy areas of rainfall across coastal texas and coastal louisiana. flash flooding possible across louisiana with a couple of inches of rainfall expected. the storm system pushes across the upper midwest. that will bring showers and thunderstorms sunday, into monday. another storm will be moving
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into the northern plains late today, into tomorrow. this is the threat for severe weather across sections of the upper mississippi valley, done into the central plains. this corridor in yellow looking at severe thunderstorms capable of producing damaging winds, heavy downpours, hail and tornados likely. so we'll keep a look at that as we head into your late sunday. saturday, the northeast, another beautiful day. more in the way of clouds. it will be warming up. as we head into sunday and monday, the east coast will certainly feel the heat and the humidity. so here's a look at your sunday. showers and thunderstorms from boston to washington, d.c. the west coast, especially must of the southwest will be warming up significantly as we head into your labor day monday. the storms across the east will be hit or miss. not everyone will get wet. certainly not a washout. the beaches looking pretty about as we head through this holiday weekend. >> that's a great way to spend the end of summer. the kentucky derby might be more of a horse race for the u.s. senate seat than previously
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comments into context. what was the message behind the scenes? >> the message is they don't have a strategy. obama said that. the president said enough to let people who thought they were going to hear here's a plan knows there isn't. as kirsten said at the beginning of your show, secretary of state kerry is going to nato to work on the sideline to try to develop a coalition. secretary of defense hagel has been work to go get more options. there is no strategy right now. it didn't matter. that's more important than whatever the president actually said in those words. he was describing a strategy. moving ahead, alex and what's important is to look this upcoming week as to what happens at the ney toy conference in wales. secretary kerry will be working with his counterparts just to see can they get together the
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international response to this terrible conflict going by an asymmetrical group. >> doesn't that almost support why the president does not have an individual plan for the united states? it's not like they can take on isis on its own. it has to be done in a coalition fashion. >> yes. i agree with what you are saying. sometimes few things can be true at the same time. to obama's critics, they say he should have been a plan by now. senator mccain, senator lindsey graham calling for a swifter, more forceful response without taking perhaps the intermediate steps that the president wants to do. we know he's been served in actions on syria. it was a year ago this weekend that the president said he was
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going to go to congress to ask for commission for strikes. that vote never happened. as it happened with the help of russia as it was, assad, the leader of syria did decide to put curbs on chemical warfare. meaning in this terrible mess that's going on in multiple countries and this terrorist group, i think in terms of the political optics which are very different, it didn't seem necessary in mind sight for a press conference at that time for the president just to announce what he did. >> from inside the white house, lynn, is there a sense that we can deal with isis and win? >> well, i'm not sure. i think that it just isn't clear yet what international players are going to be working with the united states on this. >> okay. you mentioned lindsey graham and john mccain. here's what they said in an op
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ed. continue to go confront isis in iraq but not in syria would be fighting with one hand behind our back. we need a military plan to defeat isis no matter where it is. is this a policy program? >> both. especially with the november elections coming up. syria, one of the other stories is -- the considerations in this, alex, is that we have vowed to not support the regime of the syrian leader assad. on the other hand, moderate forces who we need to -- we get messed up in internal syria politics. let me cut to the bottom on that. it's not clear who the credible partners could be in all parts of the region. this is nothing new in a sense from senators mccain and graham that they are offering their hawks and often urge different strategy than the white house has been going on. >> yeah.
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let me get with domestic politics. mitch mcconnell's leaner is resigning. what does this mean for just as the fall campaign starts in ernest. >> the priority is to keep the senate democratic. it's never good when you have a shakeup at the top level of a campaign manager. anything that could even be associated with corruption. even if this has absolutely nothing to do with mcconnell, which i have been reading. kentucky having more of a spotlight. the charges themselves or the base of this is that there is a payoff to a supporter of ron paul to switch support from representative bachman in iowa when the senator's father ran for president. the campaign manager of
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middle east as the obama administration works on a strategy in syria and iraq. secretary kerry has an op ed about the response to isis. kristen, what does secretary kerry say in his op ed? >> well, he makes a couple of key points. first of all, he maps on out why isis is such a threat, global threat. the group is not only savage, spropbl for the beheading of james foley, but for thousands of deaths in syria, iraq and lebanon. and he talks about the need for a broad response. military response is not enough. that should be part of the response. a broader response is really needed in addition to aiding some of the coalition forces. rather i should say some of the rebel forces there on the ground. and disrupting isis's media
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message. isis has an extremely sophisticated p.r. message. they have release add i number of propaganda videos. he said with a united response led by the united states in the broadest possible coalition, the cancer of isis knoll the be allowed to to spread to other countries. the obama administration is saying before we go into syria, before we expand air strikes, something the president hasn't decided to do yet. but before that decision is made, the united states wants to have a coalition, international coalition. what we are seeing is the obama administration signaling the president will not make a decision in a matter of days. this is a process that could stretch for a matter of weeks. the first step is secretary
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kerry heading to the middle east to shore up allies in that region. alex? >> kristen, thank you so much for the analysis. appreciate that. let's bring in military analyst retired colonel jack jacobs, medal of honor recipient also. with a welcome to you. what kristen is describing is the president having to look at a coalition and putting that all together. isn't that the right strategy going forward? the united states certainly cannot and does not want to go this alone. >> it is the right strategy. but trying to put a coalition together will be devilishly difficult. europe is morality risk. they have more of their people in syria. they have a much larger muslin population across europe. trying to get them to participate, however, will be much more difficult than just making a unilateral decision to do something. in addition to that, we also have the arabs.
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they have something to say about this. they're involve. they should be involved. and they're also at risk. we can't seem to get their attention either. going alone, bad. trying to get all our potential allies on our side, it will be extremely difficult for us to do that. >> from what we know of isis, what are some of the potential military options without undertaking strikes in syria that the u.s. can take to try to wipe them out? >> strikes alone is not going to work. and that strikes just in iraq are not going to work. you need to strike them, if you're going to strike at all, in syria. they are a hierarchy. we need to identify where they are, which is not going to be that difficult to do. and strike them there. they have a great deal of money. they get oil money. doing something on the economic front is very important. again, i must say, we're not going to be able to do it alone.
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we knee the arabs states and those in europe. until we get them on our side, we're not going to be effective. >> is the threat level of isis being overstated? there are analysts who think realistically it's not a huge threat to the u.s. right now. >> i don't think it's being overstated. we have much more of a threat to us than it is to europe. there are something like 100 we know of americans over there working now with isis. but there's a much larger group of people from europe. and it doesn't take very much for there to be a real threat. it just takes one person to come to the united states. to go to any other country with the knowledge he has and the power he has to cause a great deal of havoc. i don't think it's understated. the the longer we wait, the more difficult it will become. as we discovered earlier when we
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knew about al qaeda, we knew what they were capable of. we ignored it, and it turned out to be a tragedy. we ought not to wait. there's no such thing as overstating a threat like this. >> and britain raising the threat level to the second highest, severe. are they more of a target, more vulnerable or both? >> both. i think both. they're much more value initial. and they are more of a target. they have more -- more britons are over there with isis fighting on the rebel side and generally participating on what's going on in the middle east. they have a more imminent threat. but it doesn't mean we're not at risk. and we have 320 million people, people coming in and out all the time with passports. it's easier to secure our borders than it is with great britain. don't forget great britain is part of the eu. passports from any country to wander in and leave great
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britain at will. much more difficult to do that in the united states. so we're a little bit better off. because although we're a larger country, we have more people going in and out, the borders are more secure than great britain >> reverend al sharpton explains why attorney eric holder's visit was an important milestone. but i began by asking him to weigh in on the criticism of president obama's handling of the situation in ferguson, missouri. >> the community wants the president to be out here. if the presidentings too much the police say say it has prejudiced the process. and he would relieve the community but he would hurt the family. because the family cannot look like political pressure is making the process go forward.
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it must go forward by the evidence. so he's between a rock and a hard place. so he made two speeches, or two statements while he was on vacation. he careful out himself and addressed the issue. the activist in me, said, yeah, i want to see him do that. but the one family saying, don't go too far because you will win today but lose in the long run. if i'm on the cops's side, the justice is only moving because their boss is outraged. >> that is a tightrope for the president to walk. >> it is a tightrope. and the people criticizing have not talked to the family or the the family's lawyer and understand what that means. >> attorney general eric holder was able to make a difference. got pretty widely acclaimed for his role. how is it that he can do that and the president takes
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criticism? i mean, talk about the different roles? >> i think what he did was historic. i don't remember when he went to a civil rights battle front. but the attorney general is in charge of the justice department which is in charge of investigating. so he goes down to meet with the u.s. attorney to see what they're doing, meet with these scores of fbi agents because he's their boss and has the supervisory capacity to say i want to know what we're doing to determine justice. the president is a politically elected guy. you can't question the evidence. because you cannot get that deep involved in the case because you are not the head of the justice
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department. you appoint the heads. that's where it can be used against you. if you went to ferguson, what is it that you want him to say? that doesn't interfere with the rights of the family or the rights of the officer? >> i hate doing hypotheticals. but what if officer darren wilson is not indicted and convicted of wrongdoing? >> i hope no violence. i would have to say that it would be a real bad scar on america to say that a man could be killed, unarmed, and nothing happens. and particularly the process wasn't fair. even with trayvon, and many were disappointed in the verdict, it went to court. the reason i went to sanford friday is when attorney ben
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crump said they wouldn't even arrest the guy. what do you mean wouldn't arrest the guy? they said the police station said sustain your grouped. they have to go to court on that. that's got to be litigated in the court. and i think that's what has happened here. >> more of our conversation today at 12:00 noon when reverend al addresses his role. . could it be the beginning of the end for the plastic shopping bag? that's next. ♪ ♪ it's time to bring it out in the open. it's time to drop your pants for underwareness, a cause to support the over 65 million people who may need depend underwear.
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the miners were trapped after a collapse in a mine shaft on thursday. state side, a real tragedy the at a beach in oregon where a 9-year-old girl died after becoming trapped in a sand hole that collapsed on her. family members and others tried to dig her out before rescuers arrived and pulled her, but it was too late. lawmakers in california approved what could be the first statewide ban on plastic shopping page. and a 10 cent charge on paper bags. and the als association says all those ice bucket challenges the past month or so raised over $100 million. the money will go towards research and care with those afflicted with the disease. pretty great. those are your fast five headlines. the shortage of primary care physicians and the rising cost of medicine in this country has many americans turning to a new in health care, quick care clinics. the nation's largest retailer wants in on the issue. dr. nancy snyderman wants more.
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>> when you need to see a doctor, waiting is the last thing you want to do to get an appointment. >> i work in the health department the. i see people every day that don't have access to medical care. >> so now more and more retailers are banking on that frustration, opening low cost, in-store medical clinics. on friday, america's biggest retailer, walmart, opened two new clinics in georgia, making a move to deliver primary care through its 5,000 u.s. stores. >> it is focused on opening in rural areas where there isn't as much access to care. >> with walk-in visits costing patients and their insurance companies just $40, analysts say these clinics could be a "game change"er. >> these could have ripple effects and challenge hospitals and doctors to reconsider their pricing as well. >> there are nearly 2,000 retail
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clinics in target, walgreen's, and cvs. they are staffed by nurse practitioners or physician assistants. most are open seven days a week. some have evening hours. they are commonly used for treating colds or flu, infections, minor sprains and for getting some vaccinations. but experts caution retail clinics should not be the primary source for primary care, especially for children. >> we don't recommend parents take children under the age of 18 months to a retail clinic. >> when you do go to a retail clinics, bring a list of medications and get a complete record of your visit. if possible, ask the clinic to send your doctor a report. dr. nancy snyderman nbc news, new york >> the cost of raising a child is soaring. but what's behind the increase? new government reports show the economy is doing a lot better. has it really improved for the
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. it turns out the economy is doing a lot better than expected, but is the recovery being felt on main street? the commerce department revised second quarter gdp this week up to 4.2% fuelled in part by corporate profits at their highest levels on record. this news comes as the s&p 500 reaches an all time high. but my next guest writes the economy is doing great, exempt for the people in it. joining me now is jared bernstein. the guy i trust most with our economic questions. so this was completely depressing, seeing this headline. is this good news just not trickling down? >> for the most part, that's the case. we have gdp up 4% in the second quarter. that's a nice pop. if you look over the course of the recovery that is now five years old, so this economic
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expansion is actually kind of long in the tooth, gdp up 11%, equity markets, s&p which hit a record last week, that is up 92%. almost doubled over this recovery. but median household incomes or the income of the typical middle class family is down 3%, down in real terms. the good news is that even though it's come down, recently it started to reverse and we're seeing some progress as the job market improves. so it's not as gloomy as maybe that headline sounds, but if you actually ask people how do you feel about the economy, is this growth reaching you, many will say not really. >> but what is driving that? if you have the corporations making these record profits, why is it not trickling down to the employees? >> well, i like the way you you put that because there is this kind of notion that if the folks at the top do well, the benefits will trickle down and help middle class and poor people. some people derive that as
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trickle down or supply side economics. and in fact is this a good example of how that just didn't occur enough in our economy. i'm always glad on see anyone do well and there is nothing wrong with profitability of course. but because of this inequality problem, far too often economic growth ends up being a spectator support for too many in the middle class. >> a little salt to the wound of the average american. the new report on the cost of raising a child. the average cost is now $245,340. and that does not include college by the way. so where is all that money going? >> well, i have personal experience with this one. >> me, too. >> you see that pie chart there. 0% is going to housing. by the way, that has been the largest category for a long time. and if you you go all the way back to 1960 when they started doing this report, 30% was also
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going for housing then. but where you you really see a big increase in terms of the allocation much tof the family and raising a kid, child care, education and health care. those shares have just about doubled. and so with a we're doing now is spending a lot more than we used to on child care and education. in part because so many more women are working than were years ago. so those are the factors. >> some of the programs that we see in europe, state funded daycare, extended paid maternity leave, would that work here and cut down the huge costs? >> i think that's actually a very important way to go. one of the problems we talked about in our first discussion this morning is how so much of the economic growth is failing to reach people in the middle class. they have these family budget burdens that we've just been talking about. so if we can help sub cisi so if we can help sub cisdize them, certainly that could take some of the burden off of the budget. of course that puts pressure on fiscal budgets.
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>> do you think parents will factor in things like their open college debt for their kids and then the difficult job market for new graduates and that might affect birth rates? >> well, there is a pretty strong historical correlation between economic growth and birth rates. but in fact, as the economy improves, we're seeing birth rates go up a bit anyway. so, look, we can talk about the hard numbers and we're absolutely right to do so. and i think given the economic kinds of challenges i've noted, there are real budget stressors out there. but one thing a report like this doesn't really consider is the other side of the equation which is kids can be expensive, but they bring you a lot of joy, 00. >> i was going to say, my kids each worth at least that quarter million dollar cost. no roproblem. >> exactly. appreciate your time. that's a wrap. straight ahead, more smart political talk on up with steve kornacki. be sure to join me for a two
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ask your doctor if chantix is right for you. think president obama will act soon on immigration reform? think again. good morning. happy labor day weekend. thanks forgetting up with us this morning. i'm jonathan capehart sitting in for steve kornacki. the news isn't taking a holiday from the world of terror and questions about cwhat that mean in the u.s. to the fallout in ferguson and the new christie investigation. we'll tackle all of that in the next two hours. beginning with word in the "new york times" this morning that president obama appears to be in no rush to act on his declaration in june that if congress wasn't going to act on immigration reform, he'd find a