chantix is right for you. think president obama will act soon on immigration reform? think again. good morning. happy labor day weekend. thanks forgetting up with us this morning. i'm jonathan capehart sitting in for steve kornacki. the news isn't taking a holiday from the world of terror and questions about cwhat that mean in the u.s. to the fallout in ferguson and the new christie investigation. we'll tackle all of that in the next two hours. beginning with word in the "new york times" this morning that president obama appears to be in no rush to act on his declaration in june that if congress wasn't going to act on immigration reform, he'd find a way to do it alone by the end of

the summer. but now mr. obama and his aides appear to be stepping back from a firm commitment to that timing, a move that could draw fire from immigration advocacy groups. in his pre-labor day, oh, my god, that tan suit press conference, president obama hinted at a delay. >> i don't think anybody thinks that congress is going to act in the short term, but hope springs eternal that after the midterm elections, they may act. it continues to be my belief that if i can't see congressional action, i need to do at least what i can in order to make the system work better. but some of these things do affect time lines and we'll just be working through as system he cannily as possible in order to get this done. but have no doubt,he cannily as possible in order to get this done. but have no doubt, in the absence of congressional action, i'll do what i can to make sure the system works better. >> joining me now, professor of history at the university of

connecticut, and also kate from buzz feed, and my buddy of bloomberg view. so let's talk about this this. if the president delays his action, how much of a problem is this going to be? >> it's going to be a huge problem on the hill especially among the congressional hispanic caucus. they feel like the president has promised and promised and promised and not delivered. so you'll hear a lot of stuff not just from the advocacy groups, but also on the hill criticizing the game. >> if you think about the long game, it's likely the democrats lose the senate. but what if the election came done to 4,000 votes and what if polling shows a big bold vote on immigration drove people to the polls. so if he delays action and

doesn't annimate republicans, h might be helping himself more than hurting himself. >> did you agree that it's smart? >> i think it is the pragmatic decision to make. we all know you how unfriendly the president is with senators and members of congress. this is a friendly thing to do to those people running like senator mark pryor in arkansas, kay hagan and others, who first of all don't want anything to upset the apple cart at this point. you want the status quo. and while the, as kate says, the congressional hispanic caucus doesn't like it, they do want a senate majority. so they will be i think a little bit more -- they will be upset and they will say what they need to say. but i don't think they will engineer some kind of backlash. >> and this is also kind of about president obama's fundamental cautiousness, though. i'm not sure how that plays out in the long term. we think about this time and time again, his presidency has been almostdefined by these

attempts to say perhaps if we take the cautious route here. i'm not sure that this is the best route. i think we know what the handwriting is on the wall is about immigration. >> if anyone will be moved on this issue, people that support immigration reform are probably voting for kay hagan anyway. i don't think it will move voters, except it will make republicans very angry in the short term, but they will be angry no matter what. >> we're the rick perry you don't have a heart over here. i'm all for the dreamers. i think the public about supports it. but you don't want to do it in september when the senate is in the balance. i still position there's a chance. >> there's a chance.

50 something% chan 50% chance that they lose, but a small percent that they won't. but pragmatic, not world, not visiona visionary. >> let's move on to the next story. there is no next. >> let's stick with this. >> actually, i had another question. >> we'll get a heart. >> let me take back what i just said. >> no, you can't take it back, but what i was going to say, turning now to a report that the morning police department is being investigated for a second restraint related death. yesterday a medical examiner's report cited, quote, physical restraint by pris olice as caus death under arrest last month. they ruled the death a homicide and the report also cited heart disease as well as obesity as contributing factors.

this comes days after new yorkers marched to protest the death of eric garner who died after a chokehold was used in his arrest. there is also this this morning, the st. louis county list officer who made headlines during the ferguson protest for pushing a cnn anchor live on air and was suspended after video emerged to quote kill everybody is this he's now retired from the force. the officer had boasted about being a jesus-loving killer at a 2010 meeting of the group oath keepers. >> i don't care whether you're christian or not. i personally believe jesus crist is my lord and killer. but i'm also a killer. i've killed a lot. and it if i need to, i'll kill a whole bunch more. if you don't want to get killed, don't show up in front of me. >> he's expected to receive a full pension and benefits

according to police officials. my question to the panel is, are we reaching a new sustained level of awareness of police misconduct? >> in what community? in what community? quite simply, african-americans have nope about this for a really long time. and it's almost a question of whether or not people believe. perhaps we have a new surveillance culture, but you think all the way back to rodney king, the dawn of this being on video and we saw what happened to him and there was not a conviction. so this is almost kind of frustrating to say like, well, if we can show this a dozen times, people have not come to the conclusion this is part of our every day reality. not just for african-american, but for the country at large. and so just very quickly about that group he was talking to, i enter a interacted with some of the oath keepers and they are an organization of ex-military and

ex-law enforcement people who believe that the law enforcement communities are not necessarily upholding the constitutional rights of american citizens. so it's very kind of odd disjuncture because he's typifying the exactly the problem they articulate. >> i think conservatives and moderates are coming around to this. i've been on the web sift the national review and the blaze, and i expected he didn't resist, i didn't see that at all. i saw the sentiment of overpolicing. will this phrase overpolicing is now gaining a lot of -- i should say the new york city man who you referred to, that death predated eric garner.gaining a y the new york city man who you referred to, that death predated eric garner. in the an sense of video, we don't know exactly what happened. but i think the thing that came out of ferguson is not just this anecdotal or this idea, yes, maybe there yoefrp poli overpol

the statistics about the disparities in the population and representation and everyone in ferguson has an average of 3 1/2 warrants on them, just the sort of thing that does wake unreasonable people. and i think we are seeing some movement on the issue and some changes in opinion. >> this actually makes me think of the whole issue in terms of being able to see these things, it helps with the conversation. and one of the things that came out of ferguson is that what if -- and himself healso here i york -- what if police were wearing body cameras, where people could actually have a record and go back to look. is that the solution or is that something just a feel good thing that actually won't work? >> the there. >> there are a lot of cameras that exist, but they have the ability to turn them on and off. we need cameras that stay on for the things you don't wap to have recorded. this has been so dramatic in a

you have senators, republican senators like rand paul, really basing a lot of what they're saying to build a bigger tent on the arrest rate and as you say those 3 1/2 warrants. and the overmilitarization of police. and it's too bad it takes pictures, but it's an old song a picture is a worth a thousand words. it really does help for those of us not in the community to actual lly see it and know abou it. and those pictures out of ferguson and the chokehold really help to bring it home for people. >> you brought up rand paul, which made me wonder, who other -- who else besides senator paul in the republican party of any couldn't of stature has said anything either about ferguson or about overpolicing or the militarization of the police since all of this happened? >> i think there is a small

caucus in the house -- on the house side of libertarian-minded republicans who have spoken ultimate either on twitter or facebooks about what is going on. and i don't think the issue is necessarily going to go away when congress comes back this session. obviously there is a lot of stuff going on in the world, but there is enough of a coalition of liberals between the congressional black caucus and libertarians that actually really want to look at the issue of overpolicing and having rand paul as a voice out there, a prominent one, certainly does a lot to keep it up front. >> i agree. we'll discuss more of the stories making headlines this morning on the other side of this break. mmm, progressive insurance here. ever since we launched snapshot, my life has been positively cray-cray. what's snapshot, you ask? only a revolutionary tool that can save you big-time. just plug it in, and the better you drive, the more cash you'll stash.

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all is quiet so far this morning in great britain, the morning after the uk raised its terror threat level to severe. that means government officials consider an attack highly likely. but they stress that they don't have intelligence sutiggesting attack is imminent. david cameron warned britain faces the greatest tles in the country's history because of developments in iraq and syria. in other words, isis. kelly koeb yeah joins us from london. >> reporter: as you mentioned, there is no evidence according to security officials of any specific or imminent attack here. but with 500 british citizens travel to go syria and iraq to join isis and some 200 now back, the threat they say is very real. britons a woke to a new fear this morning, splashed on every

headline, terror alert red. highest since 2011. a terrorist attack the ghoech government warned is now highly likely. >> what we're facing with isil is a greater and deeper threat to our security than we have known before. >> reporter: the terror group isis has the world's attention and they're using it posting yet another vie lapt disturbing video, this time of captured kurdish soldiers. they have given continues on how to join the fight and they have become executioner. >> this is james wright foley. >> reporter: james foley's killer spoke with a british accent. >> we need to strengthen them. >> reporter: britain hasn't been hit by a large scale terror attack since 2005, when four bombed the london underground and a bus killing 52. but last year, a british soldier, lee rigby, but

slaughtered on a london street in broad daylight and in brussel, an isis recruit killed four outside a jewish center. >> it's thousand beginning to posture and directly threaten the west and western interests. literally hundreds if not thousands of isis with passports that give them easy access. >> reporter: passports that allow them to travel to europe, britain and beyond to the u.s. where the threat level remains the same. >> i don't and it is pay the that there is plan to change that level. >> reporter: the department of homeland security said in a statement that officials are deeply concerned about the threat posed by isis, but they know of no specific credible threat to the u.s.. >> kelly, is anything being done to stop the travel of jihadists back to britain or the united states? >> reporter: the department of homeland security said in a statement yesterday that they have already tightened controls at airports with direct flooits in to the u.s.. airports away the world obviously. and they're also working with

foreign countries to track these foreign fighters. but in terms of actual passports and the freedom to travel, britt ten britain is still working on in a, trying to hash out new laws or proposals which would remove, strip those passports from foreign fightersin a, trying to laws or proposals which would remove, strip those passports from foreign fighters and keep them here in the uk. but these are just proposals, nothing in law yet. >> thank you for joining us this morning. margaret, i want to start with you. as kelly reported, we've received no indications from the u.s. that there is increased terror threat here. should we be more concerned than we are gounare do you think? >> well, i took the train apdidna apdidn't fly here, so my terror alert is red. there is so much going on and it doesn't feel like the u.s. knows just who the american jihadists are. so did you get a sense that we

have control over who of our citizens have passports that have gone to fight? i don't think we know until then die, then we know. so so much now seems out of our country with a terrorist frup that is so well funded, so effective and has recruited americans that could sneak back in so much more easily. >> and it seems like we're just sort of learning about them. the president to come out the other day and say we're working on a strategy when isis has been developing for months and they have taken control. it seems like we don't even know what they're doing necessarily. we're starting to figure out and authorizing surveillance, but it doesn't seem like -- >> there should be o uld be an h list. >> obviously we're grdropping bombs on them. isis is vicious, but we're at

the most dangerous police since 9/11. the difference between that and al qaeda, since 9/11, they killed thousands of us on that day, talking to sxeexperts, isi uses more vicious tactics. from what we know, they haven't been planning an attack on the american homeland. that is something that al qaeda with us doing. so even though there is a richest terrorist group that the world has ever seen, it didn't mean that the target was the united states in america right now. >> but i come back to the question of the american jihadists who are leaving here, going there. i mean is it hysterical in the negative sense to be concerned that they will then come back and wage war on the american homeland? >> i don't think those two things can be completely distinguished. because one victory in the theater that they're in is

related to what the united states does, what western europe does in response. and so i think that this is something we should be very concerned about. i also think we should not lose sight of the fact that they don't necessarily have to send people back here. we've seen in the last few years radicalization via the internet that will have people who are here already. so perhaps this is something that we can look at, maybe 30 some odd people, but not identified yet, that is one thing. i'm more concerned about people who may already be here. >> and of course i think isis would love a hit in the united states. that's the greatest victory of all. >> for propaganda purposes at least. >> well, on that uplifting vote, my thanks to for you joining us this morning. still ahead, the, is that correctiest courtroom arguments we've ever come across and why they're so important. atball] vo! when your favorite food starts a fight fight back fast with tums. relief that neutralizes acid on contact...

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sometimes things move with such speed and with such consistency that stopping them appears to be impossible. it seems as if the momentum cannot be halted. the watershed has been reached. such is the case with marriage equality. say the after state has been recognizing the rights of gay americans and judge after judge overruling efforts to block same-sex marriage. in half of america's states right now there, are same-sex couples who have gotten married, some in states that already recognize their unions, and somewhere marriage rights are still making their way you through the courts. right now the rights of same-sex couples in four states, kentucky, michigan, ohio and tennessee hinge on the decision of just one federal judge. and no one is sure which way he'll decide. see, he was a bush nominee. but this recent year, he cast a vote uphold willi holdinholding care act. but even cases that are easier

to predict offer plenty of excitement. justices were asked why they were damagine inine ining child same-sex couples. for indiana solicitor, the answers seem to come down to tradition and biology p. >> i think the law goes as far as it reasonably can in defining marriage according to this -- >> you allow incest, right? >> we don't incest. the assumption is that there would be infertility at that stage. >> let me see about if i can put it a little differently -- >> later occurring oral argument

during article arguments, he was forced again to defend marriage. >> i'm talking about production of babies. >> but you let all the sterile people -- >> but we don't know who they are. >> it's ridiculous if you don't mind my saying so the whole idea of these people models, so you have some 80-year-old suz scous who have gotten married and you say that's a model it for marriage? >> that's part of it and other part -- >> is there evidence about that in. >> no, it's self-evident. >> i regard it as absurd, you say it's self-evident. >> boom. here how to discuss the fight for marriage equality in wisconsin and indiana and other states is the legal editor for buzz feed and also the founder and president of freedom to

marry. thank you both for being here. chris, i'll start with you. you were in the court this week. and i wanted to know how did the people react to the exchanges we just listened to? >> it was something else, jonathan. i've been attending all of these arguments across the country. and it was an environment unlike any that we've seen in any of these other cases. judge pozner was just crushing each of the lawyers in the two states in their attempt to defend the bans. an even when he wasn't do, it, the other two judge, you have the quote from judge williams. and then alsohamilton. both were sort of the nicer version of the same sort of arguments that judge pozner was giving. and the audience which was largely supporters, i mean there were two different cases that

were multiple cases that had been combined in each state. so there were a bunch of plaintiffs in the room who were watching their case happening in front of these judges. and think obviously going in, they were very nervous about what was going to happen and then when we got into it, and within the first five minutes of the argument, it became clear that the tone lightened and people started sort of chuckling along. p. >> this summer we reached a milestone, half of the states and washington, d.c. now have coupled married there. could anyone have foreseen this in 2000 # when anti-same-sex marriage campaigns were winning all over the country? >> yes, i think we could foresee it. we knew all along and we had the strategy right from the get-go that we were going to win by bringings country to national resolution through a case in the supreme court. but that the way to get there

and to win was to build a critical mass of states and critical mass of public support. conversation by conversation, persuasion by persuasion, and battle by battle. and what we're seeing now, what we're all feeling now, is that we have that critical mass of states, we have that critical mass of support. the american people, the american courts are ready to end this discrimination. and right now, we're at that point that you said a watershed that we have built to. and we have to keep doing what has been working in order to drive home the message now to the united states supreme court that not only is the country ready for the freedom to mary owing, but there is great you are urgency to act and end this dem.ry owing, but there is great you are urgency to act and end this dem. it's time to end this

discrimination. >> in six states, there is a court order. you can give us any idea of how long people will have to wait? trs. >> that's the question that is sort of -- that evan was hinting at, that we now have already several petitions before the justices of the supreme court asking them to take one ever these cases and this week we saw the unusual filings by plaintiffs, people who had won at the courts of appeals saying we want you to take these cases, as well. and the justices are going to return from their summer recess in september next month and they're going to have all of these cases before them. and think evan's point, the point that the states have made, the points that the same-sex couples have made, is that this is not something that the

country is going to be okay with the justices sort of holding off for another year or two. and i do think -- despite what evan said, i do think that the speed from windsor to today is not at least what the justices were expecting. >> evan, i know you wanted to get in on that question. what is your answer? >> i agree with what chris said and i want to give a shout out to crist whris who was named ju joirn journalist of the year. and he's right, the courts are saying what the country has been saying. the real question is having put a stay, having frozen several of the decisions that we have won in the nearly 40 decisions we have won over the past year with courts all across the country saying there is no good reason for this discrimination, if you the supreme court are holding those cases, then you need to

act because the delay is harming real families. >> i'm not sure if we have enough time to me to ask you this question before the break, but i'll ask you the question anyway. here is a clip of wisconsin governor scott walker, republican, after the courts overturning his state's ban on same-sex marriage last june. >> i was one of the people that back in 2006 voted for the constitutional amendment supporting it then. my position hasn't changed, but right now it's ultimately left up to the courts and while the judge recognized that while she made a ruling, she also issued the stay because there are several other states where this issue is pending. >> so there you have a 20167 presidential contender saying same-sex marriage is not a political matter anymore. that's pretty bhold forold to st you think? >> i think it's pretty

reflective of the desire to get this over with and to not be on the wrong side of history that people like scott walker are econvincing. and you played that clip of judge pozner's withering dismissal of the anti-gay arguments that are being churned out again sort of as a last ditch measure by the attorneys for the opposition. but judge pozner in 1997 wrote an article in which he was reviewing a book advocating for the freedom to marry and what he really said is whether or not there is a constitutional right, it's unrealistic to expect the courts to get too far ahead of the public, unrealistic to expect the courts to do the her have i lifting. the country is not ready he said in 1997. and here he was in court the other day saying there is time for the discrimination to end. that's because we have created the climate that will allow the courts and now soon we hope the

supreme court to do what it should have done. i constitution hasn't changed 37 t 37. what has chang changed is how the denial really does hurt gay people and has no good reason. >> stay with me. we'll continue the discussion on the other side of the break including justice scolia. 123rs almost every day, you notice a few things. like the fact that you're pretty attached to these. ok, really attached. and that's alright. because we'll text you when your package is on the way. we're even expanding sunday package delivery. yes, sunday. at the u.s. postal service, our priority is...was... and always will be...you.

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he said it was insufficient reason to deny marriage rights since sterile and elderly are allowed to marry. that that's similar to the arguments involving indiana and wisconsin. so talk about the scolia factor in all of this. >> i do think that it's something that supporters of marriage equality and lawyers and others who now are fighting to marriage equality do like pointing out. because it is sort of just desserts because he's been in all of the three gay rights cases, 1996, lawrence versus texas that you mentioned in 2003, and then obviously in last year's windsor decision viking

do striking down part the defense of marriage acts. and he's said that this -- the logical he said it's the same sorts of arguments holding those bans. so it is what it is. >> evan, associationed press has a story this morning about the hawaii governor saying he lost his democratic primary re-election because of his support for same sex marriage. he said, quote, republicans crossed over en masse to vote in the democratic primary and then the religious factor came in. i was outside the circle and paid for it. evan, what do you make of this? >> i think the governor is hurt by his stinging loss in the primary and he made those statement, but there is actually

zero, and i mean zero, evidence to surt thpport that propositio. he lost by more than 2:1 to a democratic challenger in a democrat primary where they like the majority of people in hawaii generally support the freedom to marry and the polls afterwards showed that the voters did not indicate that was the rope they rejected this sitting governor. so i understand his hurt feelings, and i think he should be proud of his legacy in having signed the freedom to marry bill. but there is absolutely no evidence to support that. >> my thanks to chris and evan for joining us this morning. >> good to be with you. still ahead, southern hospitaltality for a democratic president. has president obama's trip to north carolina put a fellow democrat on the spot? we'll explain next. no, it's only 15 calories. with reddi wip, fruit never sounded more delicious, with 15 calories per serving and real cream,

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and eneffect all video. is this not it. when president obama walked off air force one in north carolina on tuesday, at that point, everything looked just great. but once he gets to the bottom of the stairs and starts meeting with the people who showed up to welcome him, it's the receiving line of mystery. this guy might be military because of the hat. but further down the line, no clues at all. could be anybody. actually, we know it was democratic senator kay hagan. and it looks like her exchange with the president went rather well. they shook hands, she smiled warmly. he appears to have kissed her on themaybe even whispered something in her ear. but if you're kay hagan, do you refer images like these or this one? i ask these questions because senator hagan is running for re-election. fighting for it actually. she leads thom tillis by only

four points. so right after the december and handshake, senator hagan attacked the obama administration for its handling of the veterans affairs scandal. well, sort the of. it happened at the same podium where he just finished an address. >> the administration has a long road ahead to restore the faith and trust in our veterans. please know that i am complaint of bob mcdonald's ability. >> so she criticizes the obama administrations, but praises the new v.a. secretary. how will hagan's mixed messages play on a red state that has taken on a purplish huge isish t years? joining me now is tim boyam of time warner cable news, he's been following every development.

and margaret carlson is back with me. it would be that ready to find any democrat to defend the v.a. and senator hagan's criticism seemed very mild. so what if anything does she gain with such measured comments? >> a lot of this election will come down to the independent voters watching this very slowly. she's walking a tight rope. she has supported the health care act in this country, but the president is polling at 41% or 45% in north carolina, so she has to walk it closely on that line. >> is there a potential she will annoy democratic leaning swing voters and he saindependents eq? >> i don't know. there are also problems with bases for both candidates. so you have people on the left-hand side that are upset

that she hasn't been democratic enough, she has ads out there saying that she's the most moderate senator out there. so both are having problems trying to attraction every vote that they can because it will likely come down to just a few percentage points. >> should it be surprising that senator hagan was on the tarmac at all to greet the president? didn't she have a scheduling conflict she could come up with not to be there? >> especially since she was speaking at the same american legion convention that she was. she could have been working on her speech. as senator byrd was there, republican senator, so you couldn't have him and not her. if i were president obama, i would have like laid off the huggy kissy thing. obama is deeply underwater in north carolina. she was somewhat critical of his handling of the v.a. and she's

been great on the v.a.. in fact she expanded facilities there, the wait times are down. in a state with over 700,000 veterans ap s and 100,000 activ duty, she's so pro military, married to a vietnam vet. so she has that. i think it will come down to the 8% that the libertarian is drawing. >> as we mentioned at the top of the block, president obama and senator hagan both won their state in 2008, but after that, a complete reversal. so my question is, is north carolina turning in to a purple state or do you believe 2008 was an outlier? >> there is no question that we're a purple state. demographics are changing. united nations study said raleigh and charlotte will be two of the fastest growing cities. so demographics show urban areas

will become more democratic in the future. republicans are trying to do everything they can. but this is definitely a swing state. libertarian candidate is getting 8% in poll, however 3.2% is the highest in the last 12 years. so she's right, margaret wlorks will get those votes. thom tillis has some issues. who will go to the polls or will they just stay home. >> and the base isn't going to come out in the way that it did it for obama about that so she doesn't have that going to her this time which is what pulled herring a cross the finish line last time. >> someone wrote saying the president going to north carolina and senator hagan being there to greet him shows things might be better in north carolina in that senate race. do you buy that? >> obamacare is doing better as it's doing everywhere once obamacare get there is to effect, it sdpts seem to be the

lightning rod. would i would have just let it rest. >> thom tillis just released an ad saying she voted with the president 96% of the time. i still don't think the campaigns know what voters care about. and that will work itself out over the next six to eight weeks. >> all right. i want to thank both of you for joining me this morning. thanks. when we come back, a huge developing story out of texas. mom usually throws a gogurt in there. well mom's not here today so we're doing things dad's way. which means i get... two. (singing) snack time and lunch. (singing) snack time and lunch. gogurt because lunch needs some fun.

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killed by police. but there are other names. all unarmed, all black, all killed by the police over the years. investigations are still ongoing in the case of michael brown. three weeks later, we still didn't know many of the facts. but a group of more than 100 civil rights leaders and progressive activists is not waiting to demand concrete changes to the way police forces are run across the country. in an open letter to president obama earlier this week, they wrote, quote, the pattern is too obvious to be a coincidence and for a frequent to be a mistake. from policing to adjudication and incarceration, it is time for the country to counter the effects of systemic racial violence. ideas included training for law

enforcement, establishing i snd review, and making sure police forces are representative of the communities they serve. nd review, and making sure police forces are representative of the communities they serve.innd review, and making sure police forces are representative of the communities they serve.dnd review, and making sure police forces are representative of the communities they serve.indepnd police forces are representative of the communities they serve.ee police forces are representative of the communities they serve.n sure police forces are representative of the communities they serve.end revi sure police forces are representative of the communities they serve.dnd revi sure police forces are representative of the communities they serve. % will real change come out of ferguson? joining us are three people who signed their that i am names tor to the president. we also have an attorney who argued on behalf of the plaintiff in the 1989 supreme court case that expanded the right to police to use force. so tell us about these proposals and what you hope will change in the wake of ferguson. >> i think that we have a fundamental question of who polices the police. it's not a new question.

it's something that we've had to grapple with for a long time. and i think it's trangictragic, we think back, observe the way history has played itself out, the same month president obama was inaugurated, there were three african-american men all of whom you been armed who were shot by the police. and so i don't think that we should think of these things as somehow another aberration. and because they're fundamentally part of a normal life in many communities of color, we have to say, well, there is something like a czar on the federal level. as it is, police forces are not required to release data about how many people they shoot. we don't know the demographics around this. and once again raising issues that were constitutionally important for lots of different

populations, this not something african americans should be concerned when. then who is concerned with limitations on government power and individual liberties should be saying these are things that are important to address. >> one of the proposals i particularly like is the one calling for an end independent review when cops shoot unarmed victims. tell us more about that. >> that is important.when cops . tell us more about that. >> that is important.review whe victims. tell us more about that. >> that is important. far too often we see coverups. we don't actually get the information on what actually happened. when local police departments are essentially in charge of policing themselves and there is no independent authority, the community complaian't trust. being on the ground in ferguson, you got the sense no one could trust what was going to come out. and is this happthis is happenie

country. and over and over again, you see a sense that justice simply will not be served or hasn't been served. black people, young black people, can be shot or killed by the police. and there is no accepsepis no s justice will ever be served. >> you argued before the supreme court on behalf of a police suspect in a case key to expanding the police's right to use force. tell us a little about's meant. >> i had a case whose situation was pretty typical of what happens in many encounters with the police. he was not shot, he was not killed. he was injured when police overreacted in what would become an investigatiory stop. those are the thousands and thousands of cases to me go below the radar and we're not get willing tting the attention public that they deserve.

one lesson i got is that we can't count on the courts to police the police. that we need to have better training on the front end. there needs to be supervision of that training. there needs to be some way of supervising and monitoring police forces in general. and so whether that is a national police czar or a more aggressive roach by t aggressive approach, something needs to change. >> and darren wilson, the officer involved in the michael brown shooting, do you think she'll be char he'll be charged with a crime? >> i don't know whether he will be charged with a crime or not. and i think that the current standard is not that bad. it says that a police officer's conduct is to be assessed based on what might have been objectively reasonable under the

circumstances. the standard is in the that bad and in fact a good one when it comes to training police officers. the challenge is in trying to figure out how to take that standard and apply to a situation like this officer's. so what a jury might do is something that i would not want to speculate on. but i will say that just earlier this week in charlotte, north carolina, a jury does find a police officer liable for a taser death and awarded damages to the family. an all white jury with an african-american victim. >> one thing that gets lost here is that we have this kind of idea of african-american communities versus the police. many of these communities saying we quantwant a functional relationship with the police. people say why are you focusing on this, what about black on black crime. do you think people are not

aware of this sf they want a relationship police that is functional because we are aware of how many african-americans die as a result of violent crime. and so it was kind of an invasion of a fundamental thing that we have to have some degree of accountability on one happened if we will ever address the issue on the other hand. >> angela, i haven't forgotten you're here. give me your thoughts. >> well, i think it's worth tho noting senator mccaskill's actions where she talked about the importance of body cams, not necessarily mentioned this in the letter, but more broadly. claire mccaskill said thes these folks should be responsible to the point where federal funding is tied to whether or not they will are wateriearing body cams. and there needs to be a paradigm

shift. part of this is changing a whole culture of not just corruption, but above the law culture. i remember reading a book about this in undergrad. there is a notion that because i am in charge of enforcing the law, the law does not apply to me. we've seen come over and over again. not just as relates to black victims, i know a white father wrote a piece last week about his son dying and him not being able to imagine what it would be lookic to be ii ii iic like to disenfranchised black person who lost their child. and this is not new to us and we're not been satisfieasleep a switch. but i hope that we can continue working dill sgepts

working diligently to make it stop happening. it's not just about black on black crime, not just law enforcement officer assaulting someone. it's about changing the culture. >> angela is right. and last week, we delivered nearly a million petitions to the white house. this is a moment that we have to seize in order to mobilize every day people. as i sort of looked at the movement from organizations around the country, several rights organizations or progressive organizations, people are asking what they can do. and this is a moment for the federal government to step in. over and over again as you displayed in the opening, we continue to see these moments happening around the country and there are real federal policies on the table that the administration can move on in these next couple of years. and there are people behind

this, people ready to stand up and fight. and as we come into the midterm locations, get black people engaged and believing that the country is behind them and want to support them, these are the proposals folks will have to push for. these are about people's lives being at stake. >> and speaking of politics, let's talk about a particular democrat. hillary clinton responded to the shooting in ferguson of michael brown and the aftermath for the first time on thursday. take a listen. >> nobody wants to see our streets look like a war zone. not in america. we are better than that. we can do better. we cannot ignore the inequities that persist in our justice system. inequities that undermine our most deeply held values of fairness and equality. >> angela, are civil rights leaders going to push hillary clinton to support the concrete

measures you're advocating for? >> i can't take credit for this, but we were talking about whether or not she would speak out and then she spoke out. may have been a coincidence. but i think that we have to apply pressure to everyone responsible, whether it's missouri, senator roy blount, senator mccaskill, whether on some other street in a local community holding the mayor accountable. but, yes, hillary clinton if she's going to run, just because of the platform she has, she has an obligation. she picked a perfect day to say something. it was the anniversary of the "i have a dream" speech. so worth noting, i haven't heard anything from the gop, and it's a major issue. this is not politics as usual.

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doing this, american companies are depositing as much as $2 trillion overseas. out of reach of the irs. it might seem shady or unpatriotic, but it's perfectly legal under the current tax code. while democrats and republican miscongress want to address the issue, surprise, nothing is getting done. a familiar story on so many other issues. earlier this month, obama said he will tackle inversions on his own. >> we don't want to see this trend grow. we don't want companies who have up until now been playing by the rules suddenly looking over their shoulder and saying what some of our competitors are gaining the same and we need to do it, too. that kind of mentality is something we want to avoid and move quickly. >> joining me now is jared bernstein, center on budget and

policy priorities. and former chief economist for vice president joe biden. jared, thank you very much for being here. this term inversions is what new. recently the word of the day in the white house instragram feed. why are they picking up steam now? >> they have been around for many a decade and in fact back in 2004, when congress kind of did stuff, they actually did raise the bar to inversions by changing the amount of shares that new shareholders had to hold in the newly formed company. but that bar has turned out to be too low. and basically, why now? i think that just has to do with the fact that more and more american corporations are engaging in new ways and old ways of tax avoidance. precisely the president just said. if the corporation across the street is avoiding their taxes

by enveinverting, by setting up their tax mail box in another company, you're at a competent difference disadvantage to them if you don't do the same. >> there is some support in both parties to he said thend this p. where ares two parties on this? >> i think that the two parties are probably in this case somewhat less relevant than the two is it is actually possible the senate could take action. the problem is, and this is not unfamiliar, is in the house. it seems pretty inconceivable to me that the house is going to get its act together to do something about this, so now you have the president and treasury secretary saying we should let congress move first. but if they fail, we may have to

move. and frankly, i hope they do. >> so what will the president do to limit inversions on his own if he has to? >> you were talking about burger king and the tax rates. it really has very little to do than tax rates themselves. there is all these loopholes. corporaten versions afford them two new things that they can do. one is called earnings stripping, the other called hop scotching. ways in which these multinational firms avoid paying taxes. now, what the administration, treasury can do is to change the way the irs administers rules around these tax advantages to firms that have inverted and not end inversions, but reduce the financial incentive to go there. >> so if the president acts alone, it sounds like he could do a fair amount to limit

inversion, but how much more could get accomplished if congress acted? >> well, that is a really important and overlooked question. if the president acted alone, i actually believe the rule changes would seriously dampen inversions. the problem is because it's a rule change versus legislation, when the next president comes in, if it that is a president of another party, they can change those rules back. which is really a lousy way to do tax law. legislation has a way of sticking much more than any of these executive order type moves. >> right. jared bernstein, always wise. thank you very much. >> my pleasure. still ahead, trying to get the deleted text between governor christie and a top aid. ahhh! what is it? there are no marshmallows in this box of lucky charms! huh... weird... seriously?

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there is a new subpoena to find out who knew what and when in the bridgegate scandals. christie has been on something of a vacation lately from the scandal that plagued his administration earlier this year. he's been traveling around the country campaigning ining and money as chairman of the republicans gh s governors comm. but it's not made it possible to completely escape the state and federal investigations into his administration. last month, a top aide testified that she had exchanged text messages with the governor agde. the committee is looking to obtain those delete the texts.

christie maintains he knew nothing about nefarious behind the lane closures until e-mails became public in january. so what could these messages reveal? for answers to this as well as other questions about the investigation, we're joined by brian thompson, wnbc here in new york, thanks for coming. so how was are a gee that involv involregina involve some had. >> bridget kelly was the aide who wrote that notorious e-mail involve some had. >> bridget kelly was the aide who wrote that notorious e-mail involve some had. >> bridget kelly was the aide who wrote that notorious e-mail. time for traffic robs in ft. lee. and regina was in essence her boss. nobody has been able on connect that bridget did it on regina's

say so. but in the subsequent days after the traffic jams, it was regina's responsibility to look into it, why did her people get involved in this. and so she started looking for whatever depth that she may or may not have used in this investigation of hers and by december, she was texting the governor certain information as shed a m admitted in her system indeed she had told the governor about certain aspects of what the port authority was maintaining was their, let's just say, demeanor in this whole thing. what was revealing was that she was texting the governor while he was still denying any knowledge. >> and december 2013 is the

focus of the subpoena. why is that such a pivotal month to the investigation? >> that was the month when after we knew that there was something rotten in denmark that the governor was saying i still don't know what's going on. i don't know that anybody did anything wrong and i was the heck that moved the cones out there. >> he said jokingly. >> of course. but it's crucial that all of a sudden we now know based on her testimony that regina did have some sort of text communication with the governor. is it a smoking gun or not? we don't. the committee thinks there is a chance of recovering those text messages. at&t has to be able to produce the content. but they're also asking for a record of all phone calls.

so interesting that after she had texted the governor, did she ten ta then talk with the governor on the phone? so did she talk? did she call him, did he call her? you won't find the kept, but -- >> you'll know sthey talked. let's take a listen to what christie had to say.kept, but - >> you'll know they talked. let's take a listen to what christie had to say. >> i have no recollection so i couldn't tell what you it said. they had access to everything that i had. and so, you know, if i had it still at that time, then they would have had access to it. and if i didn't have access too it, they wouldn't have. i have no idea. no recollection of it at all. obviously it was something of no moment or no import. >> so why wasn't the committee able to get the deleted text messages from the gibson dunn

y >> you mean the $7 million smes? because maybe the governor only paid half price. i don't know. but the problem with it is that tiks messages disappear after a few days. gibson dunn in all frankness, they didn't have access to at&t, they didn't have subpoena power on get this type of information. so in reality, it just wasn't there on them to get. >> so an at&t spokeswoman says the company takes its obligations to law enforcement seriously whiles considering their customer's privacy. do you think they will comply with the legislative -- >> that's a really good question. did you want to risk the wrath of the new jersey lemgislature. if your business model is fend

depe dependent upon government corporation, what would you do? >> they had no problem stopping the legislative committee.corpo? >> they had no problem stopping the legislative committee. but they haven't done that here. is that significant? >> i maintain everything this committee does is done with the consent, not necessarily approval, but of the u.s. attorney's office. so there are two possibilities here. one, u.s. attorney doesn't believe the text messages are possible to get, or it doesn't mind the committee doing its dirty work. it's possible the u.s. attorney has not decided that the text messages could be germane to what it is doing in its investigation. possible. so you have all sorts of possibilities, but i still maintain that this committee does not do something as we've seen with their cancelling witnesses without the u.s. attorney's conce creconseptembe

september. >> does the commit if i feel the governor has been forthcoming? >> not the democrats. but again, the text messages disappear after a few days. at least in the system. but so you have to go through the subpoena to at&t to get that. do democrats on this committee feel the governor's office has been fully forthcoming? no. does the governor maintain that he has been fully forthcoming? yes. you decide. >> i lied. this is a really quick last question. what is the time table? how long is this going to take? >> my guess, and i can only -- >> the investigation i mean. >> i can only give you a guess at this point because i have no inside knowledge on this. but i think a lot of people are expecting the u.s. attorney to act sometime in the month of september or october at the latest, which suggests that it could be into november.

i would say sometime this fall you will see the u.s. attorney announce whatever fine findings it's decided to come to. >> brian thompson, thank you you so much for coming in. still ahead, the print version of your local newspaper may be on life support, but is there still a future for editorials arrest opinion pieces? as an pin journalist, my answer is yes. we'll find out if that's wishful thinking next. latte or au lait?

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and, yes, what others think, too. most of all, we want it faster. the opinion columns of old, ones that get printed and delivered to your doorstep, just don't cut it in this day and age. the buteauty of the web lets yo disregard the boup drndaries by page. most readers don't want to wait. they get alert that is news is happening and they're opening new windows on their browsers, looking to their smart phones oig for updates. and at the "washington post," my pieces are a flurry of words fortified by hyperlinks, videos address pictures to give readers context of a story. and that doesn't scratch the surface of facebook and twitter. p this is not how it was only a few shot years ago and readers are loving it.

opinion drives traffic. so i want on discuss this. how has the opinion column changed in the age of online news? are we seeing the end of the pen i don't know columns as we've always known if? we have a. he wi panel of experts. clarence paigepage, connie thom and also here onset, and i want to begin by asking you how p opinion writing has changed. >> well, you mentioned a couple things about length. you can embed links in your column or blog if you will and you can do videos. every column i do, i do a short

video, as well that runs with it. so it's different. the 24/7 nature of the new age is confusing to us old geezers. i'm used to having deadlines. the idea of setting deadlines for myself runs against my very nature, but i'm getting used to it. >> connie. >> well, i agree. i'm not a nationally syndicated columnist. so i have two different animals you're dealing with. i am doing video for a parade. here is my concern. i agree that we need to be responding and interacting with readers. that's for the good. what i do want to emphasize is that nothing should replace the sort of reflection you get when you give something a bit of thought. i worry we really a becoming -- echo chamber sounds cliché, but

clichés are there for a reason. we're not just reverb rating what somebody has already said or piling on what somebody said. i really feel like my job ratint somebody has already said or piling on what somebody said. i really feel like my jobrating somebody has already said or piling on what somebody said. i really feel like my job is to do a lot of research before i put my fingers to the keys for the column. but i think our readers deserve a team deeper reflection when i comes to analysis of the news. >> and i agree with you 100%. i find that i package my opinions in many different ways. if something big happens, i'll throw something quick out on twitter and then two hours believe me, write a more reflective version of my opinion, build the opinion, change it, do reporting, bring in more material. and so we put you're opinions out in just various forms,

including 130 characters, isn't this a terrible thing that does happen and then you write your 600 words on why it's a terrible thing that happened. and you do need some time to put together a good opinion. >> and you didn't mention that you were doing video with your pieces, but connie and clarence also said you are. let's come back to this discussion about taking time to think about pieces. i was asked if i were king for a day as a writer, what would be the one thing that i would decree. and i said i would decree every writer should spend at least 20 minutes thinking before they actually write something. how much time do you actually spend positioning abo ithinking something? >> it depends on the subject.

if it's on the top of the new, i can't spend a huge amount of time thinking, but lot of high columns are on developing stories. and because of social media, i think we columnists have to offer a slightly different product than we did 20 years ago. we have to offer analysis, some new take on something. >> connie. >> i think it's really important to emphasize that one of the crucial roles a columnist can play is closing the distance between reareds trying to consume all the news and those of us trying to make sense of it. i spend most of the day on the day i feel my column, i wrote a public facebook page, and we get conversation there is a lot. but i do think it requires -- the 20 minute thing, yeah, i guess i would agree even if they spent that much time sometimes thinking about it, but i also want to emphasize we still don't

have enough women weighing this with their opinions in news papers and people of color. and that is astonishing. i hang out with a lot of women who have a lot of opinions. i'm mindful that it's harder for women to summon the inclination to offer up an op-ed to volunteer which the och p-ed project has been trying to encourage women to do. but we're trying to encourage a wide swathe of women writers of all ages to start thinking about not just sharing their opinions over coffee or on their facebook page, but actually contributing to the larger conversation. >> i want to bring the conversation to the interaction that you were talking about a moment ago with social media and e-mail. how has their interaction with readers changed in the last several years?

because i know it's immediate from twitter to facebook, e-mail, phone calls. >> also addictive . >> it's assistantconstant. >> i love it ooch. if i'm not careful, i will twitter and tweet all day long. check my facebook page.. if i'm not careful, i will twitter and tweet all day long. check my facebook page. but it's interesting to me, i still get more candor i'd say from both sides through old fashioned e-mail, if we can now call e-mail old fashioned. on my facebook page, god bless them, my facebook followers tend to be so nice. whereas my regular e-mail, that's where i get the trolls and the people who represent the real america and my view. >> can we talk about in a? the up side is you get to hear from everyone who is reading us and listening to us.

the down side is you hear from really crazy mean racist nasty people. >> and i'll add sexist. which is why there are more women out there giving their opinions. the blow back you get if you're a woman is really unusually nasty. and also i think a lot of women don't have that thick skin that they need to take it. >> we need to grow that skin. and my attitude these day, i've been doing this for quite a while and i get the odd mail, but as soon as you attack me for my personal appearance or my gender, i win. and i think it's important to encourage women and people of color to remember if you aren't making a difference, you aren't getting a response. and my editor at random house summed up what i consider to be the model for my life.

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columnist bill keller who said column writing is a lonely business and the one thing i missed about being in a newsroom is the pleasure of sitting around a table with six or eight really smart people who know their stuff and puzzling over a problem. in both counts, i identify. i feel left alone sometimes which is good. and i feel left alone sometimes, too. is this something any of you identify with even as we're so connected? cla clarence, i'll start with you. >> i was raised as an only child, so i don't like to be alone. i came up back in the day when newsrooms made noise. typewriter, people yelling copy, blah, blah, blah. it is like a tomb now. i think that collaborative process is something me and my column writing colleagues tend to break is really such an important part of our job, hard to duplicate. and at the same time, i can't

emphasize enough the importance of being able to reflect on the news. i think that's really our job. we do report and research. but giving some opinion that helps the reader have something to bounce their opinion off of, that's really the most important part of the job, i think. >> connie? >> i think the tendency is to become isolated. i think it's crucial that you not be isolated because it directly affects your work. and i write mostly in the city of cleveland where i live or in washington where i spend some of my time. i get out every day. i talk to a loft different people. whenever i work on a column i like to brain storm with the people i respect. i love the community we've built at facebook. twitter i think of as that's when we talk to one another as journalists, show off. try to compete. facebook is the place where we have conversations. and i am very grateful to the facebook community we've built there. i'll throw out a lot of questions and you never know where those conversations are

going to take you and you often find sources. i do agree more now than ever -- i don't sit in a newsroom anymore where reporters would come over, i can't write about this but i wish you would. i do miss that part a lot. >> well, i think collaboration is important and it helps fill your brain with new eideas. and for me collaboration means also talking to the mail man, talking to people at the grocery store, talking to people who are not in your business, finding out what they're interested in and what they're worried about. i think at the end of the day, though, writing a column is a solitary enterprise. you're sitting there -- i write it out of my home office, and if i want to see people, i take my laptop to starbucks. >> real fast, if you were a monarch for a day, what's the one thing you would decree all opinion writers do? connie, clarence, real fast. >> use your brain not your immediate reaction.

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