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letting the industries grow. >> the future is exciting. the technology is amazing. michael, good to have you with us. i appreciate your time. we'll do more stories on clean energy coming up. that's kwo"the ed show." "politics nation" starts now. good evening, rev. >> good evening. thanks for tuning in. tonight's lead, the second purported beheading of an american journalist by isis. a video released by the terrorist monitoring group appears to show the execution of freelance journalist steven sodlov who was kidnapped last year in syria. the video comes two weeks after an isis militant beheaded another american journalist, james foley. the masked militant who killed foley appears to be the same man in the video. he speaks english with a british
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accent. we are going to play a very short clip from the video so you can hear his voice. >> i'm back, obama. i'm back because of -- >> in the latest video, the militant also threatens the life of a former british soldier who worked for aid groups and was captured in syria last year. white house officials say they haven't confirmed the authenticity of the video, but a state department spokeswoman says finding out what happened to steven sotlov is a priority. >> we have seen reports of a video that purports to be a murder by isil. the intelligence community will work as quickly as possible to determine its authenticity. if the video is genuine, we are sickened by this brutal act taking the life of another innocent american citizen. our hearts go out to the family.
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we will provide more information as it becomes available. >> we are all sickened by this video. a spokesman says though they are waiting for the video to be authenticated they are already grieving. last week, the world with met sotloff's mother when she released this heart breaking video, a direct appeal to the head of the terrorist group asking him to release her son. steven sotloff was 31, a native of florida. he had reported from bahrain, egypt, turkey, libya and syria. friends described him as a selfless person and said he lit up a room. on twitter he referred to himself as a stand-up philosopher from miami. it's hard to imagine his family's pain right now. the entire country is thinking of them. and now we must figure out the way forward against isis to make
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sure justice is done. joining me now are msnbc military analyst colonel jack jacobs, and nicholas burns, former u.s. ambassador to nato, now professor at harvard university. thank you for being here. >> thank you. >> you're welcome. >> colonel jacobs, let me go to you first. the entire intelligence community is looking at the video. what are they trying to learn from it? >> among other things trying to determine where it was taken. there is a great deal of opinion that puts it inside syria. most people i talk to think that the hostages were moved to syria. that's where the video is taken. in addition, trying to determine whether or not the video of this murder and the previous one, of mr. foley, were taken at or about the same time rather than
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sequentially. this may tell a lot about what the intention of isis is with respect to these people. also to try to determine exactly who these people are and where they can be found. to date we have not decided we are going to actually attack inside syria. if we want to do something about them. certainly over the short term, and they are in syria that's where we have to attack. >> colonel, let me ask, in the video what appears to be the killing of steven sotloff, the militant said he's back because of american foreign policy and the bombing of the iraqi city amarli. it was reported the airstrikes helped break the siege on amirli. a video shows residents cheering for iraqi soldiers after breaking the siege by isis. are the air strikes working?
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>> they are working at a tactical level. it's easy to find these guys and attack them with precision guided munitions. you can actually drive them off locations you want to keep them away from. for example, the dam that's repeatedly counterattacked by isis. we continue to drive off using precision guided munitions. if you want a long-term solution to the problem of isis inside iraq, you're going to have to get troops on the ground. it doesn't mean american troops on the ground but as a minimum whoever goes there will have to be there long enough to make sure the iraqi troops including the peshmerga who failed against isis get retrained. the defense of the area themselves. that means troops on the ground,
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not just using precision-guided munitions. >> let me go to you, ambassador burns. what message is this? >> they are trying to intimidate western governments and public opinions. i don't think they will succeed. this group is aen monstrous criminal terrorist group. that's obvious given what they have done in the last several weeks. i think president obama has now to look for greater support from the arab world and the europeans as a nato summit in wales where this will be front and center. the united states is carrying a lot of the load now with the u.s. airstrikes against isis. they have been effective in a tactical sense. it would be nice to have more european support. i mean active military support, what the united states is doing. we are carrying this water for the europeans. it would be beneficial to see greater courage among the arab are governments. the sunni led arab governments.
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they should be out denouncing this group. trying to convince their own citizens to not join the group or bankroll this group. ultimately president obama will have to decide does the united states seek to contain isis or defeat it? the colonel said containment is one thing. the united states can probably keep isis out of iraqi kurdistan through american air power. to defeat it require as major introduction of ground troops. europe won't go for that. i don't think president obama would agree to that either. we are really in containment mode. that means isis continues to wreak havoc in both northern syria and western iraq. >> now, ambassador, the president is headed to the nato summit now. you wrote in the financial times that this may be one of the most consequential nato summits in
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the group's history. you wrote, quote, europe should volunteer air support to help the u.s. contain a rampaging isis in iraq and syria and squeeze isis politically and dry up funding from wealthy arabs. will we see new agreements to go after isis. >> it may be the united kingdom will support the united states militarily. i'm skeptical that the west europeans, germany, france, italy, spain will agree to this. they've got their own problems. of course you know they have faltering militaries themselves. they spend very little on the military compared to the united states or britain. i hope the europeans will stand up in the nato alliance and support the united states. but i just don't know whether they will at this point. that means that the united states, once again, will have to really shoulder the burden.
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but there are other countries we can work with. turkey is an important country. the turks allow some oil from isis across the border to refineries. could the turks cut that off? >> you know, colonel jacobs, after the execution of james foley we learned there was an attempted rescue of james foley and other hostages. the new york times reported that early this the summer, two dozen delta force commandos raided an oil rhee finery in syria. they were dropped into syrian territory. after a firefight, they found the hostages were gone. how risky is a mission like that, colonel? >> extremely risky. you don't undertake it without first class intelligence which is what we are lacking here. we need to know where they are
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before we devise a plan to get them. we are short of human intelligence, people on the ground giving us information. we are relying heavily on overhead intelligence, foet graphs, satellite observation and so on. by itself, not enough. we need information from on the ground so we have timely information of where they are. >> ambassador, given most polls saying most americans do not want to see us go into another war and go into another nation. short of a coalition, how does the president go in and then maintain after. it may be easy to go in. how do you maintain keeping isis out short of a coalition? >> i think the president is receiving support from both party miss the congress for the use of american air power. most members of congress understand the strategic
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consequences for the united states should iraq splinter into three parts -- sunni, shia and kurdish. should isis retain the caliphate in syria and iraq, where i think the consensus breaks down is on the issue of ground troops. there is nothing that would indicate that the administration will now propose ground troops to a very kept call american public and a congress. i think president obama on his own would probably conclude based on what he said in the last week or two that it wouldn't be the right decision for the united states to own the problem to that extent, to reimpose the substantial american ground presence into the middle east. we cannot prevent them from undertaking the outrageous criminal atrocities they committed again today against an american citizen. >> all right. we're going to leave it there. we are certainly going to watch
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this as it evolves and as nato meets. colonel jacobs, ambassador burns, thank you for your time. >> you're welcome. >> thank you. coming up, president obama slams the gop 1% ideology and sets the tone for the midterm elections. >> i'm not asking for the moon. i just want a good deal for american workers. [ cheers and applause ] plus, we are down the stretch for the general election and the democrats have a strategy to rally black voters to the polls. and the celebrity hacking scandal that has everyone talking. nude photos leaked on the internet. how private are your photos? stay with us.
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truth. america deserves a raise. folks are doing very well on wall street. they're doing well in the corporate boardrooms. give america a raise. >> i want an economy where hard work pays off with higher wages and higher income and fair pay for women. i'm not asking for the moon. i just want a good deal for the american workers. [ cheers and applause ] >> that vision of fairness is in stark contrast to the gop's 1% ideology. civilized by today's news about foreign gop house majority leader eric cantor. his new job is on wall street. he's joining an investment bank as vice chairman and managing director. the bank praised him as a long-term wall street pal. he worked to lower taxes and
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eliminate excessive regulation during his congressional career. he also spent time in congress blocking a minimum wage hike. >> i'm not speaking to the minimum wage issue. right now we are trying to provide it -- more jobs for everyone. i think it is pretty well known if you increase the mandate on employers you're going to see less jobs. >> cantor is out of congress. other republican leaders are still blocking everything from unemployment benefits to the minimum wage. so what vision will america go for? it's all at stake in november. joining me now is congressman chocka fotah, democrat from pennsylvania. thank you for being here. >> good to be with you uhment on thursday there will be a thags wide, fast food workers fighting for a livable wage.
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we have ballot measures in a number of states now in which this is going to be on the ballot as it was for instance in seattle and washington state. but the president, the most powerful, most persuasive person in our nation made the case so well today that we need to be dealing with equal pay for equal work, raising the minimum wage. if we tied the minimum wage to the cost of living it would be $10.10 today anyway. we would be just keeping pace if we can get this raise done. >> we're really not giving americans a raise. it would be only where americans are, just bringing it are where the economy is, if we updated it. let me ask you this, congressman. how prominent will the issue of fairness be in the upcoming midterm elections? >> this is going to be the issue. as you see it framed now the republicans have walked away
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from trying to deal with obamacare. they see it is much too popular now in terms of the support base as they started to cover millions of americans. they are not talking about repealing obamacare anymore. the fight will be about whether we are committed as a country to moving people from poverty into the middle class, into working lives so they can feed their families and valuing work. they say they are for family values well. need to value work. >> just today, gop congressman paul ryan explained his opposition to raising the minimum wage. quote, the biggest concern i have is i don't want to take jobs away from the people who need to get on at least one level of the economic ladder. but 60% of americans say a $10.10 minimum wage would have a positive effect on the economy. can democrats gain an edge in the midterm election by
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highlighting issues of economic fairness, congressman? >> you see the stories. there is no gop wave. all of the races and red states for u.s. senate are races in which democrats are working well in kentucky, georgia. you see what's going on in the country. there is an opportunity for us to win because we are focused on middle class american issues, paying for college. this is something i have spent my career on. helping young people -- millions of them -- be able to afford a college education. it is the most concrete way to move people into economic self-sufficiency. we have work to do. i think there is an election in which the public has to do its part. it thoos give clear guidance for the policy makers for the direction the country to go in. >> we'll dig into that in the next segment. this weekend the president went after republicans for opposing just about everything.
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even popular policies. listen to this. >> they useded to be for building roads and bridges. now suddenly, no, we can't build roads. why not? because you proposed it. the sky is blue today. milwaukee brats are delicious. [ cheers ] >> the brewers are tied for first place. [ cheers and applause ] and republicans in congress love to say no. those are just facts of life. they say no to everything. when the rest of the country is working to raise wages but republicans in congress won't, it ain't right. not only is it not right, it ain't right. >> you know, he seemed like he was in campaign mode. how much of an impact will the president have on the midterm elections. >> he's the most successful politician of our era.
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people want to discount this but he's won two national elections. we are going to be at a point soon where we'll compare eight years of clinton to eight years of obama and republicans sandwiched in between and look at real job growth. real growth in the economy. real opportunity compared to republican policies and there won't be more debate in the nation. >> let me ask you this. a recording surfaced of mch mcconnell talking behind closed doors about what he'll do if republicans win the senate. listen to this. >> and we are not going to be debating all these gosh darn proposals. that's all we do in the senate is vote on things like raising the minimum wage -- cost the country 500,000 new jobs. extending unemployment. that's a great message for
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retirees. the student loan package, the other day, that's just going to make things worse. >> no debates on the minimum wage, unemployment benefits, student loans. if that's what's on the line in the midterm leks? >> look, he said it and he means it. if they get control of the united states senate they are going to make sure these issues that are important to the majority of americans never see the light of day. the public has to do its part. the president will campaign hard. democrat wills campaign hard. the public's got to decide whether they want to move the country toward expanding the middle class or whether they want to increase the amount of wealth for the 1%. >> that's why we've got to vote with a passion. we'll talk about it in the next segment. congressman fattah, thank you for your time tonight. >> thank you, rev. >> still ahead, hands up, time to vote. after ferguson, progressives are turning grief into a drive for
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democrats are trying to rally black voters across the nation, outraged by the ferguson shooting. congressman john lewis, a civil rights hero, is leading the efforts pushing to mobilize voters in several states with competitive senate races, including arkansas, louisiana, and north carolina. the numbers don't lie about the power of black votes in these states. in louisiana, 32% of eligible voters are african-american. in georgia, 30% are black. in north carolina, 22% of the electorate is african-american. in arkansas, 15% of the eligible voting population is black. so if you're outraged, vote. if you want change, vote. if you want control of your future, vote. joining me now are angela ryan and richard wolf.
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thank you for being here this evening. >> thanks, rev. >> you're welcome. >> how big of a factor will the black vote be in determining the future of the is that the. >> it plays a huge factor. you mentioned the demographics in these districts. one of the things we have heard often when talking about georgia is the fact there are 500,000 african-americans who are still unregistered. so the potential is huge. part of the potential is knowing how to harness the power of the rising electorate. the way the democratic party has to do it is by encaging these folks on the ground. you can't go into communities at that time last minute. i heard you say it. i heard members of congress say it for years. at the last minute put candidates in churches and things at the last minute. there is still time to engage vendors, to engage elected officials wo aren't necessarily the candidate, and also engage influences in the community. celebrities, activists and athletes to ensure turnout is high come election day.
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>> richard, as i mentioned, how close some of the senate races are, take a look at the latest polling averages for each race. in north carolina republican tillis is leading kay haguen 44% to 43%. in louisiana, bill cassidy is leading democratic senator mary landrieu 47% to 46%. in georgia, republican david perdue is leading michelle nunn 46% to 42%. in arkansas, republican congressman tom cotton is ahead of democratic senator marc pryor 45% to 43%. richard, these races are tight with just nine weeks left. how important is voter engagement this year? >> it's huge. let's be clear. some of the races aren't going to stay so close. for starters, there is little
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polling done. turnout is generally low in mid-term elections. ifan m you cilize voters, what looks like a close race now doesn't end up that way. what's different this time around, it's not like 2010 where you're talking about an economy that's really flat on its back, where democrats didn't see the wave coming. this isn't a gop wave election. this is turnout versus turnout. when you look at the democratic turnout machine as deployed by the obama campaign in 2012, it's a far more formidable base to start from than anything the gop has put together. so without a big motivating factor for the republican side of things, a successful democratic turnout can keep the races tight in many cases or even blow them out in the later stages. >> how important is getting out
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and voting? historically it decreases in the midterm elections. in 2010, 43% fewer ballots were with cast by african-americans than in 2008. that's a lot of ground to make up. can the trend be reversed in the midterm elections? >> i think it has to be. you just started with a good point. often times our community is galvanized by seeing injustice done. by seeing someone not playing fair. the only way for us to ensure that we turn out is to ensure we show up year round. we saw ferguson happen. we know it happens all throughout the country. what are we going to do about it? the power is not necessarily collectively in our pockets. we don't necessarily have dollars to compete with the majority in the country. what we have gained over time is political power. the best way for us to initially exercise that power is by going to the polls. before you go to the polls are you registered? after we meet those steps, elect
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someone who thinks like you who will enact policies that you support and you hold their feet to the fire on that. in the tight races you mentioned, yes, we can afford to have are drop off voters. ask senator cochran in mississippi about that. >> a lot of what we are outraged about in ferguson, on staten island, are prosecutors that win elections that we didn't vote and the numbers we could repair in november. you know, people are concerned about ferguson. they are also concerned about impeachment. many believe the president could be impeached. when you say the p president isn't on the ballot, he is. if mitch mcconnell becomes majority leader. >> yeah. we saw the impact of that in 1998. although that was real impeachment, not talk about
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impeachment. but still the hemries are fresh for many people. that led to an extraordinary information where democrats picked up seats in 1998 whereby all track record they should have lost them. there is a precedent for this. i think there is a combination of factors. often at the national level the campaign strat egists and political leaders think they have a handle on where the electorate will be at. they think it will be about whatever they think they can plan. often a combination of local stories can be good motivating factors for voters. could be ferguson. could be the threat of impeachment. it could be any number of things that could crop up. you cannot discount or plan for it. but certainly if community leaders can channel the energies that we have seen whether it's about prosecutors and policing or voter i.d. laws, there is a recipe there for voter turnout to be higher certainly than in
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2010. >> or all of the above. ted cruz is talking about impeaching attorney general eric holder. this is real threatening to a lot of what's been achieveded and where a lot of people want to see things go, particularly african-american voters. >> no question about it. you brought up senator cruz and richard mentioned voter i.d. laws. the reason why senator cruz wants to get rid of eric holder is there is a vote arer i.d. law they are pushing in texas that would disenfranchise people that look like us and brown people. the reason for that is the rising american electorate and the threat that they have in turning texas blue. this is entirely political for them. unfortunately their politics is our racism. that's the way in which this law plays out. it has discriminatory intent and effect. >> we are going to be watching texas. richard wolf of nbc.com and
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we're back with the talk of the nation. the big stories everyone is talking about today. joining me now is msnbc's abby huntsman and zerlina maxwell. thanks for being with us. >> thanks, rev. >> we start with the celebrity hacking that rocked the internet. nude photos were leaked on the web reportedly by hackers who broke into online storage services. lawrence and upton called it a violation of privacy and said they will pursue legal action against anyone who shares or sells the images. in total 93 female celebrities were reportedly hacked. apple says the accounts were compromised by a specific attack on user names and pass words. the fbi is investigating and millions of americans are wondering about the security of their private information. there is a lot of hacking
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stories the news. why did this one generate so much outrage and discussion? >> this is absolutely a violation of privacy. we see it happen all too often. these are huge names, women i think a lot of people respect in hollywood. jennifer lawrence, you don't think of as someone who will share nude photos of herself. if this was my daughter, for example, you can't blame them when this happens. you have to think these are all women this happened to. some of the photos were deleted before they were hacked into. it makes you really think though that anything you share via text, e-mail, people can hack into it no matter what you do. >> i lost my phone in a cab. the cab driver stole it. i really had to think about what was on there. you never know when it might haunt you. this is the reality of the world we live in. it's not changing any time soon. >> you know, what's your take on that? it isn't a problem for celebrities in the past 12 months alone, 110 million
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americans had their personal information exposed by hackers. that's 47%. nearly half of the u.s. adults. >> i think we all have are to take this issue seriously. remain vigilant and take extra steps to make sure our accounts are protected. one of the things we are not talking about necessarily is that this is a breach of consent. this is a violation of consent. that's what's important. while so many of us take pictures we may not want out there, we are not consenting to that being made public. that's what we are saving on our personal icloud storage devices or on our hard drive ares at home. the reason we are saving them is so other people don't have access. that's why they are pass word protected. we need to not call this necessarily a hacking. this is them stealing personal information that people wanted to keep private. also violating consent by releasing it to the public. >> you know, abby, when zerlina
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mentioned that, some are defending this or trying to find justification saying you shouldn't take pictures you don't want out there which, the to me, is crazy. >> yeah. >> you have the right to do what you want. it doesn't give people the right to steal it and put it out there. how do you answer those that say, well, if you take photos like that, you should know you are risking them being exposed particularly as a celebrity. >> you have to ask how you can justify are something like this. i don't think anyone was saying this was okay to do. this is a terrible situation for all of the women involved. i feel sorry for them. i have to say, to your point, this is a violation of the law. but we can't control what happens. so you do have to think twice in today's world. everything is on social media. we tweet so many things of ourselves, our friend s on instagram, facebook, you name it.
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we have to do a better job of thinking what if. what if that slight chance it did get out there and people saw it, would i be embarrassed? >> yeah. >> that's the world we live in, something we have to think more about. i wish that were not the case. but it is. >> it's true. with my instagram and twitter i think whatever i put on there may be in tomorrow's paper. so i'm very careful. let's go next to -- we go 30,000 feet up into the not so friendly skies where our legroom is under attack. yesterday a delta flight had to be diverted to jacksonville after a passenger became angry that a woman in front of her reclined her seat. that's the third incident like this in just the past two weeks. one involved this gadget, the knee defender. it attaches to your tray table and is designed to stop the person in front of you from reclining. one passenger tried to use the
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device against a woman in front of him. after he refused to remove it reports say, quote, the woman stood up, turned around and threw a cup of water at him. is recliner rage the new road rage? >> i think one of the reasons this is resonating is we all feel that way when someone reclines on a plane or train. this is an experience we all have. we were talking about our different strategies. i'm a preacher's kid. i ask people before i recline my seat out of courtesy. i don't expect others to do that. i want people to treat me the same way. >> i say it's my seat. if i have a recliner button, i'm using it. i know the person in front of me often times will do the same to me. i'm not happy but i know i will. my husband is 6'3". he travels every week for work. it's a miserable experience for him.
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he usually has the aisle and has to stick his legs out, tripping people. traveling is just a miserable experience. >> miserable. >> it's claus phobic. we aren't big girls but if it's miserable like us i can't imagine what it's like for others out there. >> i have been big and smile. it can be miserable. there are some preachers' kids that aren't courteous. mine are. but a flight attendant union says, as airlines are cramming more people into a confined space, the likelihood of conflict increases. the union is placing the blame on the shoulders of the industry. is that fair? >> there are some health risks. my sister had blood clots. it's common when you are crammed into the seats. you have to think about the quality of life and some of the flights that go on for hours and hours or they are stuck on the
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runway for hours on end in new york city. that could end up being a huge health crisis. traveling is a miserable experience. it's up to the airlines to headache it more enjoyable. just to get an inch more space or, i don't know, a bag of pretzels. you have to spend an arm and a leg to have an enjoyable experience. >> or the ipad or working on planes like i do. >> i absolutely have had people almost break my laptop because they reclined without asking. >> we are going to leave it there. i guess we'll get to bathroom signs on planes in a minute. thank you both for your time. >> thanks, rev. >> be sure to watch abby on "the cycle" week days at 3:00 p.m. eastern on msnbc. still ahead, ferguson police did something this weekend they have never done before. it's a step in the right direction. but first, an ultra rich gop
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and oceanfront villas. he's running ads portraying himself as just a regular joe. >> this old watch cost me $18. pretty cheap but it gets the job done. pat quinn's watch in springfield, just the opposite. your time is up. >> bruce rauner, shake up springfield. >> an $18 watch. he's just an ordinary guy, right? wrong. when he's not talking about his $18 watch he's signing up for a wine club that costs at least $100,000 to join. he admitted the story in a news conference today. >> do you believe to a wine club that the costs $100,000 to be a member of? >> i have many investments and i'm a member of many clubs. >> so that's a yes? >> yes. $100,000 for a wine club. keep in mind that's nearly
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double what the income is. the minimum wage should be lowered. he should perhaps stop talking so much about his $18 watch and start talking about why he supports policies that hurt ordinary working class voters. r. who would have thought three cheese lasagna would go with chocolate cake and ceviche? the same guy who thought that small caps and bond funds would go with a merging markets. it's a masterpiece. thanks. clearly you are type e. you made it phil. welcome home. now what's our strategy with the fondue? diversifying your portfolio? e*trade gives you the tools and resources to get it right. are you type e*?
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finally tonight turning grief into a positive force for change. on saturday, protesters marching for justice in the michael brown shooting saw something they have never seen before. police in ferguson, missouri, wearing body cameras for the first time. obviously these cameras don't solve all of the problems on our streets. but it's a start. in realto, california, they tried body cameras on police. complaints went down 88%. we saw police conduct themselves differently. it is time to try new things to solve old problems.
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it will not solve everything but it brings us closer to community polici policing, community, police trust and credibility on both sides. we must have solutions. we cannot stay where we are. thanks for watching. i'm al sharpton. "hardball" starts right now. another american beheaded. this is "hardball." good evening. i'm chris matthews in washington. let me start tonight with a horror that appears to have no ending. the islamic state has beheaded another american, steven sotloff. this is not a bit of news to absorb, move on and forget.
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