>> storm is rising in the middle east. >> the video of steven sotloff's execution is real. >> the face of islamb is not butchers, that's isis. >> 350 more troops being sent to baghdad. >> the message is that the u.s. is in this for the long haul. >> congress should pass authorization to use air power only. >> does have a list of possible targets in syria but indication he's ready to move on that. >> if the u.s. doesn't go after them inside syria, it's going to be a lost effort. >> this is a cancer you can't lay dormant. >> left unchecked they'll seek to carry out attacks closer to home. >> it's now a global threat. >> we will waiver. >> this is a cancer that has to be cut out. >> we will not forget our reach is long and justice will be

served. >> good afternoon, i'm luke russert. president obama is on the move in europe. he arrived this afternoon in wales for a crucial nato summit to confront the threat for is is, earlier today confirming the authenticity of steven sotloff beheaded. he issued some of the strongest rhetoric against the terror group yet. >> we will not be intimidated. there are horrific acts only united states us and stiffen the resolve to take the fight against the terrorists aej those who make the mistake to harm americans learn we will not forget and our reach is long and justice will be served xbl what does justice mean for isis? at first he offered an unkpro mizing goal. >> our objective is clear, that is to degrade and destroy isil so it's no longer a threat not

just to iraq but also the region and the united states. >> the president appeared to mitigate that declaration to destroy isis. >> if we're joined by the international community, we it continue to shrink isil's fear of influence, it's ineffectiveness and financing that its military capabilities to the point where it is a managing problem. >> that remark drew further anger, republican senator saxby chambliss blasted that statement saying i'm extremely disappointed in the president's comments indicating his goal to make isil a manageable problem. the time to stop and destroy isil is now. some are calling for congressional approval of the isis mission. republican ed royce and elliott

engle say they want more congressional oversight potentially forcing a vote on action against isis within 60 day window since the start of air strikes in iraq last month. the heated debate comes as congress prepares to return next week and just last night the president approved the deployment of an additional 350 troops to iraq to protect u.s. personnel and facilities bringing the total more than 1100 troops. the white house says those troops will not serve in a combat role. joining me now is the republican representative from florida's 17th district, congressman tom rooney who sits on the intelligence committee. thanks for being on the program. >> thanks for having me. >> you obviously heard from the president today saying they would like to manage the threat of isis. from where you stand on the tw committees and you're a veteran, what would you see as a coherent strategy in confronting isis right now? >> that remark is unfortunate

just like the remark last week about not really having a strategy. certainly i think the president -- i would like to think would use different words because i guarantee you that isis is not going to get their goals to a manageable number before they are happy. i think that the strategy, to answer your question, has to be what some of us have been talking about and that's to try using the nato sum it tomorrow so rally support and put isis on the defensive even more so and use whatever means necessary to stop a threat if the intelligence is true that this is truly a national security threat to us here than to do whatever it takes to stop that because people are living in fear. >> the president authorized 350 more troops last night, bringing total up to 1100. there have been calls on both sides for the president to go to congress and seek authority to legally move into syria or to

get legal authority for an expanded operation against isis. do you think that needs to happen and where do you fall on that? >> i think it's a smart idea for him to do that, for him to come to congress and get the people's representatives on board so that there's never an issue of funding or anything like that. it's just smart politically and tactically for him to get congress behind him. i don't think he would have a big problem doing that. if he didn't, he probably under his article ii powers could move forward with air strikes for a while because the courts have been ret sent to get in the middle a congressional dispute over war powers but certainly i think we're going to have to continue to fight isis in iraq and then probably eventually are going to have to get them in syria as well and to do that, i do believe a new authorization is the right way to go for the

president. i hope he doesn't look down upon us as he's been doing so the last several years and say i don't need them or we're the red headed stepchild and actually use us for his own goals, i hope. >> to fight isis in iraq and syria, do you think the u.s. needs ground troops? >> we might. we very well might. that's what we do as military. our job is to fight and win this country's wars and if there's a national security threat to this country, we will do that. our job is to make sure that we preserve freedom and liberty here at home. if that is jeopardized our goal is to go and fight and beat people harming us or potentially going to harm us. the military will do what it's told and it might need to do that in syria. i don't think that we're there yet but at some point that could be the case. and we should never take anything off the table. i don't know what goal that has

aside from still appeasing to this political promise you made when you were saying that we're going to get us out of iraq and end these wars. guess what? life happened. and it might be time to go back in there and go back into -- go into syria in future. if that's what it takes to keep us safe, that's what we have to do. >> do you think there's support for an elongated american commitment of ground troops and artillery and blood and treasure in iraq and syria again? >> nobody believes that the country is war weary more than me and more than people that have worn the uniform. in fact, i was the one that tried to lead the fight going into syria against assad because it was a foreign country, foreign leader/dictator. this is different. this is terrorism. this poses a threat to us. this i think under former authorizations from congress fits the mold as far as what we're protecting ourselves

against. but no, nobody wants to go back to war. what we have to figure out is if there's a threat to our liberty and people are in fear for their freedoms, then we have to do something about that. if we don't, we have neglected our job as leaders of this country and that starts with the president as commander in chief. >> something to keep an eye on certainly as you guys come back from recess next week. congressman from florida, thanks for being on the show. >> thanks, luke. >> joining me now is senior fellow on u.s. national security policy in the middle east and south asia at the center for american progress, thanks for being on the show. >> thanks, luke. >> i want to talk about this idea that president obama has been floating that we heard about a broad international coalition to come together and try to mitigate the threat from isis, we're obviously seeing great britain is worried about

isis, united states is. but putting together a coalition like that is a lot easier said than done. how can the president go about accomplishing this at this nato summit and what's the likelihood for that to happen? at the nato summit, they have their hands full with ukraine and russia. but i do think the threat that isis poses should be on the agenda. there are things we can and are and should still be doing with our yaurp peen allies on law ep force. and intelligence, but i think there's things we can do to go on offense. many of the european partners offered support to the kurdish forces in northern iraq and that's a good sign. but luke, the key partners that we need are those in the region. those including turkey, which is a nato ally but some of these oil rich gulf states, many of which have more than a thousand combat aircraft we sold to them.

the coalition i think is easier to construct with our european allies and a little bit more difficult in the middle east but it's crucial to have the coalition and have that support from countries like jordan, like saudi arabia and like the uae to try to tackle this threat. >> yes, it's always interesting there, more than happy to buy our arments but when they have to use them don't want to be associated with the united states. regarding the aspect of time, i was just talking to congressman rooney who opened the door, perhaps you would need ground forces, u.s. ground forces in syria and iraq. how long of a struggle could we potentially be talking about. rooting out al qaeda took ten years and they are still very much active in many parts of the world. >> i think that's right. this is a long-term struggle. defining the nature of the threat makes it different. it's not a nation state even though it declared itself a state and assumed those functions.

it's a dangerous network and that's why we need all of the various tools. tlt could take some time. i don't agree with the congressman respectfully that it needs u.s. ground troops. because again, there are actors in the region that have been actually working to fight for their own territory. we see this with the kurdish peshmerga. those that oppose assad as well as oppose isis. president obama proposed back in june additional assistance to those forces. i would shy from this notion of shock and awe and doing counter insurgency and staying there and put more on what can others do in the region to defend themselves and what can we then do to help them as o poised to put us in the forefront? >> on that point it would seem to me though, in order to get the regional actors involved, you would have to have some semblance of a strong central government in iraq and that

surely is quite a long ways away from where we stand right now. is there a solution to confront isis that doesn't involve perhaps an independent kurdistan in the stri angle and roots out isis from the country? >> the strategy in place, which is the strategy the obama administration adeptly used to the leverage of additional assistance to get prime minister maliki to stand down. there's a new coalition in formation, the clock is ticking on that and the prime minister designated a body, has within the next week to try to form and finalize the coalition. i think that's good but whether or not that succeeds, the u.s. policy should remain to work with reliable and capable partners. if those partners tend to be

subnational groups like the kurdish peshmerga, we need to do that. it's better than pretending we can send in tens and thousands of u.s. troops and they know the language and terrain in the way the kurds or sunni tribes in iraq, we may have to get creative here and work around national governments. that's the case in syria, we're not going to work with the assad government and may be the case in iraq. >> which would be shocking considering the amount of blood and treasure we spent. thank you so much for join gs us with the center for american progress, take it easy. >> thanks. >> after the break, as isis claims land in syria and iraq, it is enslaving women and subjecting them to unspeakable horrors. we'll look at the brutality the terror group does not feature in its videos when i'm joined by founder and ceo for women international. you want to see this, don't go anywhere. good family.

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amnesty international accused isis of ethnic cleansing, hul an rights watch she they committed the execution of 179 men. they are examining potential war crimes committed by the group. but one element that has not gain the same attention is the its unspeakable violence against women and utter disregard for the value of their lives. the group believes woman should be fully covered and prohibits sex outside of marriage. that same group has been kidnapping women in iraq and syria and i mprisoning them and raping them and selling them off as property as little as $25. some are as young as 14 years old. when kurdish and iraqi forces

two weeks ago, "the new york times" reported they found two women naked and bound and repeatedly raped and subjected to horrendous conditions, survivors who managed to escape the prison told the daily beast that the women held in the prison in mosul faced two face, those who do not convert face daily rape and slow death. joining me now is founder of women for women international to talk about this absolutely horrific thing that's occurring over in iraq and it's tough to talk about because it's just so shocking and has not gotten enough attention. why has there been such a silence before this issue, girmz as young as 14 being sold off as sex slaves and women repeatedly raped for not converting to islam. this is a catastrophe of a five alarm level. >> absolutely. i think to be honest, everyone

is shocked. this is so alien to iraqi culture in particular and to arab and muslim culture in general, that they are as alienisis is as alien in their behavior as it is to you and i talking here in new york city. i think everyone is in shock. the second is, i don't think the culture knows how to deal with that. one of the crisis we're dealing with in iraq, the women, even if they are released and girls when they are released after being raped, they may be in danger of honor killing because families have to protect their honor and saying you were raped we have to kill you. the society does not know how to deal with this crisis for first time they are encountering. i have to tell you, i'm so glad you're mentioning it and bringing it to the attention because we need to look at what's happening to women, not as a marginal issue, not as a side issue and particularly in this case not a cultural issue. we need to look at it this is a

bellweather, telling us a direction, the agenda of isis. this is -- they are belweather for the direction of this fundamentalist crazy group. >> in order to get protection, wall street journal said arab and muslim governments vocal on the threat isis poses have been silent. how can those countries be told to move up and say this cannot happen, we must stop this from occurring? >> well, to be honest, these governments are having their own agenda as well. i'm in the process of making a documentary on arab women in arab springs all of the governments from egypt to tu tunisia are saying we want you to go home, now in iraq, this is pushing an envelope that is so close, slavery in here, slave market created by isis and

forced marriage and rape. i'm not sure these governments are even in -- i don't think even they know what to do with their own women let alone address such radical issues. so hopefully this will be a wake-up call. and if it doesn't, it's shame on all of us, we're losing a major challenge of the change of the culture at large in the political trend. >> this is certainly a region of the world where women have been second class sit zens for some time. but we were talking off camera and we have never in this part of the world seen the degree of -- what i would say is basically acts of barbaric terrorism essentially committed against women. reports of possible genital mutilation, women go back again young as 14 sold as sex slaves and wed off to islamic fighters. how did this ever come to the

middle east? something we had seen to a lesser degree in africa? >> as an iraqi that grew up in iraq, to confirm, we never had this issue, especially -- not only especially but always with minorities, christians and muslims had had wonderful relationships all of our lives and yazidi community was isolated and respected on its own. iraq by itself is not -- it's a combination of many ethnicity and groups and we always co-existed. the isis is not a native thing to iraq. also the women and girls being ab ducked are reporting a lot of chechens and people from holland and british and the rapists being also from different countries. now, that's a new also -- >> it's systemic too. it's part of what isis is doing. it's a part of how their reign of terror, going after women and almost essentially making this

ru ruddment tri. >> the women started in the prison by executing 650 shias and now with the christians and the yazidis and with women. we're having a world war ii kind of germany kind of situation to what end when are we going to speak up and iraqis are going to speak up or as you sedar abs and muslims are going to speak up, this is getting closer and closer to the majority of the population. this has to be a wake-up call. >> the silence is deafening and it's certainly a large scale atrocity that is painful to hear about and report on but thank you so much for being here. we appreciate it. >> founder of women for women int international. coming up, a potential break it is through in cease-fire talks between ukraine and russia, can

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it appears the five-month conflict in ukraine may be closer to a truce with vladimir putin and poroshenko agreeing to the general outlines of a cease-fire. in the middle of a news conference, putin casually mentioned he had sketched out a 7-point plan on his flight from moscow at which point he was handed a notebook by an aid and read allowed the seven terms, that accept tra ra tists halt operations and and all for all prisoner exchange of those captured by both sides and opening of humanitarian corridors for refugees and rebuilding brigades to repair

infrastructure and international monitor of the cease-fire. it did not address the key issue surrounding the legal status of the rebel-held areas going forward. in a classic case of devil speak, putin's press secretary noted that russia cannot physically agree on a cease-fire as it is not a side in the conflict. this despite overwhelming evidence that russian soldiers and heavy armor are continuing to operate on ukrainian territory. at a press conference today in estonia, president obama reacted cautiously to the news. >> it's too early to tell what the cease-fire means. if in fact russia is prepared to stop financing, arming and training in many cases, joining with russian troops, activities

in ukraine and serious about a political settlement, that is something we all hope for. >> rebel leaders say they weren't involved in the deal but would abide by the terms of ukrainian forces pulled back. something the ukrainian military that's already been doing a lot of in recent weeks, losing ground after steady advances throughout the summer. a direct result of increasing russian involvement. today's news of aproposed cease-fear came as u.n. announced casualties have reached a new milestone. >> our assessment is that we have today remg sistered over 3,000 casualties. >> just ahead, president obama declares russia a threat to peace in europe ahead of this week's nato summit. nicholas burns and new york times peter baker join me to discuss what the u.s. and europe can do to beat back russia's aggression and whether the plan

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article 5 is crystal clear, an attack on one is an attack on all. if in such a moment you ever ask again who will come to help, you'll know the answer, the nato alliance, including the armed forces the united states of america right here present now. >> since delivering those remarks this morning the president has now landsed in the uk ahead of tomorrow's nature toe summit in wal sext. one that has become all the more urgent because of russia's aggressive actions in ukraine. tomorrow's alliance meeting could well be the most consequential since the cold war ended. while ukraine itself is not a member of the 28 nation alliance, the crisis will take center stage at the summit

specifically. the announcement of a new 4,000 strong nato rapid reaction force to counter russian aggression, still it's far from the only item on the agenda. also sentcentral to the talks w be the threat posed by isis. and now isis gains in iraq and syria are sparking a broader rethink of nato policy in afghanistan. where the alliance plans to withdraw all combat troops by 2016. as former u.s. ambassador to nato nicholas burns argues, with the lessons of a divided iraq clearly in minds, does it make sense to leave when that may i am peril the unity since 9/11. joining me now, ambassador nicholas burns and new york times peter baker. ambassador burns, you've written this as possibly the most consequential nato summit in the

65-year history of the organization. that's a big thing to say. why is that? >> actually said, luke, i think it's one of the most consequential summits and for the following reason. they are being challenged by putin and ukraine. when the cold war ended 25 years ago we thought that europe would be in the words of president george h.w. bush, whole free to peace. and putin is threatening that and nato alliance has been the keystone organization to knit together that democratic peaceful -- that's what is at stake and that's vital. that's why the united states fought this the first and second world wars for lack of piece and unity in europe. that's why i think it is consequential and the ukraine issue will be front and center as well the is dish issue.

>> you'll never see nato troops on the ground in ukraine, this is about fortifying the area west of ukraine. but this is still very much a declaration of strength by nato against russia, to have 4,000 rapid ready response troops, that's going to be approved tomorrow, that's sending a strong message to vladimir putin. >> it's ments to send a strong message, no question about it. to be clear, as you were saying, the 4,000 troops would go to estonia and poland and will not go to ukraine. they are drawing a line between members of nato who have article five treaty protection and ukraine which does not. if that's the case, what does nato and europe do about ukraine? that's the real con undrum for president obama and his allies, can they go beyond the sanctions that have not seemingly deterred vladimir putin to come up with something that might. that's a real struggle for them.

>> how do you think the white house is looking at this plan that vladimir putin wrote in his notebook, apparently a 7-step cease-fire between the russian separatist area and ukraine. >> look at the timing. it is intended to come right in the middle of the nato summit. the white house looks at this, it's a way of dividing -- perhaps the momentum for further sanctions by the european union which plans to impose new sanctions by the weekend. he's done this before, faints peace at a time when he thinks europe may be gathering strength against him and when attention goes elsewhere, he has continued to send in forces and do other things. on the substance of it it's an area that includes withdrawing russian forces and stopping the flow of equipment and man over

that border. at this point it seems a political maneuver rather than a serious plan. >> ambassador burns, something that will be on the docket of discussion, perhaps not as much as russia and ukraine but abdullah said isis could be europe within a month and u.s. within two months. the u.s. is trying to seek out commitments from countries saudi arabia, qatar, in that area, but what can the u.s. do to the confines of nato to confront the isis threat? >> i think this will be after russia and ukraine the central issue at the nato summit tomorrow and friday. the europeans can do a lot more to help the united states. we've carried the burden of air power against isis over the last 30 days and certainly the british and french in particular as the most capable of the european allies can do more to support the united states. the president when he was

estonia talked about the fact that you have to have a comprehensive strategy. there has to be not just a military strategy but economic strategy to undercut isis, a diplomatic strategy to isolate it and europeans can be active across that entire spectrum. on the military side, there's european excess european air power that could certainly be brought to bear against isis targets. the biggest strategic question here, luke, will the u.s. and nato objective be to contain isis or defeat it. to contain it is one thing and that's been the strategy so far. keep isis away iraqi kurdistan. it doesn't seem to me there's political will in the united states or western europe to put tens and thousands of troops back in the middle east. we're probably in the contain

mood but it really will require the european allies to step up. they also have to step up on sanctions against russia and they also have to face the question, luke, should we extend military assistance and advanced military technology to the ukrainian government so that this is going to be a very important summit on middle east and ukraine. >> you talk about this idea of defeat or contain, this is not something president obama imagined his second term being defined by just a few years ago when he was inaugurated a second term. what are the political wins? we had tom rooney of florida who said isis is a terrorist threat that presents a direct threat to the united states and ground troops perhaps could be a possibility. obviously, it does not play well with voters who do not want to replay what happened in iraq and afghanistan. definite a a war weary nation but president obama has a very

difficult political tight rope to walk to contain isis if that's in fact what he does. >> that's exactly right. he does not want to put troops in and said again and again he won't. sent a few hundred more last night but the facility is not engaged in direct combat with isis. and so there's not a political will both in the public or white house to do that sort of thing. the question is can he craft a strategy that doesn't involve the tens and thousands of troops that ambassador burns was talking about and yet still have a meaningful effect and degrading, if not necessarily destroying isis, can he rally allies to do more to cut off finances to cut off their flow of fighters and so on and so forth. >> it's something that congress will certainly be working on when they get back next week but no clear end in sight. ambassador nicholas burns and peter baker, thanks for joining us. >> coming up, another american

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the dallas cowboys have signed michael sam to the practice squad, the first openly gay athlete to be drafted in the nfl and let go by the rams on saturday. >> we're bringing a player in and we want to see on the practice field, nothing but good reports about him from our people and from people in st. louis. and we just want to give him a chance to come in and see if he can help our football team. >> with a full roster already in place, sam is unlikely to play in the cowboys sunday opener and chances of him being the first openly gay athlete to play in the nfl, they are becoming thinner. why are teams weary of sam? it has nothing to do with his ability as a football player and everything to do with the quote distractions as one told the bleacher report's mike freeman. teams want to sign michael sam but fear the media attention.

others fear the the circus coming to town. this keep in minds is all coming from a league that has signed drug addicts and drunk drivers and alleged rapists to their squad. michael vick was con vicked of running a dogfighting ring and yet still got signed and ray lewis indicted for murder and acquitted of that but con vicked of obstruction of justice and named super bowl mvp the next year. the reason michael sam isn't on active rosters, it isn't because the media circus, the reason there is a slowness to signing him to a practice squad is probably because he's gay. joining me now is senior write for "time" shawn gregory. if you look at the nfl, there are 300 players who are practice squad players, every team gets ten. you can make ang argument he was too slow and st. louis rams

didn't have a need for him or other teams didn't have a scheme that could fit him, fine. you cannot say michael sam is not one of the 300 best practice squad players around in the country especially because he was mvp of the toughest conference in football for one of his years at missouri. >> without question, the whole situation started to stink a little bit come yesterday afternoon when michael sam didn't have a spot on a practice squad. agreed that there was no shock when he got cut from the rams. ad adam shek ter tweeted this in tweling stat, 12 nfl players had three aks and ten are on rosters and one on a practice squad and only one was out of work yesterday as of noon or so yesterday. >> this year 41 players including sam were selected by nfl teams in the final and

seventh round 80% were slated to start the season on an nfl roster. we hear this talk about distractions, the circus is coming to town. i think one individual who brought a bigger circus to town was johnny manzeil and his heterosexuality being in vegas and being at every party, linked to super models and celebrities. if there was more chatter during the lead-up to training camp, it seemed to be much more around johnny man zs diel than michael sam. >> a few extra cameras are going to come into nfl locker rooms at the beginning of the season. once the season gets going, michael sam goes about his business. the story is kind of fades and he wasn't a distraction from the rams and rams are ready to make the season. at best, that's a kind of

cowardly excuse. you weren't hearing he was good enough to be on a practice squad. at worst there maybe something more going on, some sort of bigotry or something like that. >> in situation is difficult for nfl and all sports leagues and trying to figure out how to embrace this, the first gay athlete coming out, but in this day and age, where we are to the clutch seems so short sided. you can understand the hesitancy at the beginning but at the end of the day don't you want to be on right side of history? who would have thought jerry jones is the leader to get on the right side of history. >> he loves the media attention. >> we've seen the nfl move slowly with marijuana laws for example, that their punishments are strict for stuff that's legal in a few states now. the nfl culture is tough guy culture and old fashioned and that's going to be possibly

something that's difficult to break but you saw michael sam with the rams this preseason, everything seem to be okay. it's going to take an owner like jerry joan jones. >> chris long said the only people talking about it are you guys, media, we got over it a long time ago. super pac spending is up seven-fold since 2010. now a study finds one political party is benefitting. can you guess which one? that is next on "now." don't just dream of being the hero. make it happen. i can't believe we're missing the game for this. we're not-- i've got xlte. it doubles our 4g lte bandwidth in cities nationwide, so be that guy with verizon xlte.

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